theGinsue
01-27-2024, 10:42
BushMasterBoy's post in the 2024 Ammunition Shortage thread (see below) and current U.S. and world events got me thinking about what if the U.S. activated a Selective Service Military Service Draft.
All I'm reading is news of the conflict between Ukraine and the Rus. This will cause consumers to stock up on NATO type ammo. UK is talking about a conscription system for all males under 60. Putin has threatened London with nuclear weapons in the past. If it goes hot, 9mm/5.56 will be unobtainable.
As a military retiree for the past 18.5 years with a significant VA disability rating, I'm certain I'd never be considered for recall to active service (I definitely fall outside of the official eligibility to be recalled).
But, I wondered, what are the possible exemptions for others from a draft? From the U.S. .gov official "Return To The Draft" website, here's what's listed for the various "Classifications" and the list of possible "Exemptions" (note: I'm not looking at the postponements or deferments, just exemptions):
Classifications
Men are not classified now. Classification is the process of determining who is available for military service and who is deferred or exempted. Classifications are based on each individual registrant's circumstances and beliefs. A classification program would go into effect when Congress and the President decide to resume a draft. At that time, men who are qualified for induction would have the opportunity to file a claim for exemptions, deferments, and postponements from military service.
The following is a list of the more commonly used Selective Service classifications from 1948 - 1976. Roman numerals I, II, III, IV, V were sometimes used:
1-A - Available for military service.
1-AM - Medical specialist available for military service.
1-A-O - Conscientious Objector (https://www.sss.gov/conscientious-objectors/) - Conscientiously opposed to training and military service requiring the use of arms - fulfills his service obligation in a noncombatant position within the military. Those classified 1-A-O are conscientious objectors available for noncombatant military service.
1-A-OM - Medical specialist conscientious objector available for noncombatant military service.
1-C - Member of the Armed Forces of the United States, the Coast and Geodetic Survey, or the Public Health Service. (Enl) - enlisted; (Ind) - inducted; (Dis) - discharged
1-D - Member of a Reserve component or student taking military training.
1-H - Registrant not currently subject to processing for induction or alternative service.
Note: Within the cessation of registrant processing in 1976, all registrants (except for a few alleged violators of the Military Selective Service Act) were classified 1-H regardless of any previous classification.
1-O - Conscientious objector (https://www.sss.gov/conscientious-objectors/) available for civilian work contributing to the national health, safety or interest.
1-OM - Medical specialist conscientious objector available for civilian work contributing to the national health, safety or interest.
1-S - Student deferred by status - (H) high school; (C) college.
1-W - Conscientious objector (https://www.sss.gov/conscientious-objectors/) performing civilian work in the national health, safety or interest. (Rel) - Released.
1-Y - Registrant qualified for service only in time of war or national emergency.
Note: The 1-Y classification was abolished December 10, 1971. Local boards were subsequently instructed to reclassify all 1-Y registrants by administrative action.
2-A - Registrant deferred because of civilian occupation (except agriculture).
2-AM - Medical specialist deferred because of critical community need involving patient care.
2-C - Registrant deferred because of agricultural occupation.
2-D - Ministerial Students - Deferred from military service.
2-M - Registrant deferred for medical study.
2-S - Registrant deferred because of activity in study.
3-A - Hardship Deferment - Deferred from military service because service would cause hardship upon his family.
4-A - Registrant who has completed service; or sole surviving son.
4-B - Official deferred by law.
4-C - Alien or Dual National - Sometimes exempt from military service.
4-D - Ministers of Religion - Exempted from military service.
4-E - Conscientious objector (https://www.sss.gov/conscientious-objectors/) opposed to both combatant and noncombatant training and service.
4-F - Registrant not qualified for military service.
4-FM - Medical specialist not qualified for military service.
4-G - Sole surviving son - son or brothers in a family where the parent or sibling died as a result of US military service, or is in a captured or M.I.A. status, are exempt from service in peacetime.
4-W - Conscientious objector (https://www.sss.gov/conscientious-objectors/) who has completed civilian alternate service.
5-A - Registrant over the age of liability for military service.
Student Postponements - A college student may have his induction postponed until he finishes the current semester or, if a senior, the end of the academic year. A high school student may have his induction postponed until he graduates or until he reaches age 20.
Appealing a Classification - A man may appeal his classification to a Selective Service Appeal Board
Exemptions
The following instances are eligible for exemptions in the event of a military draft:
Ministers
Certain elected officials, exempt so long as they continue to hold office.
Veterans, generally exempt from service in peacetime draft.
Immigrants and dual nationals in some cases may be exempt from U.S. military service depending upon their place of residence and country of citizenship. Learn more here. (https://www.sss.gov/register/immigrants/)
I find it particularly interesting how "Immigrants and dual nationals"..."may be exempt from U.S. military service"
With the HUGE influx of illegal immigrants flowing into our country (estimated by some at over 22 million), and no real tracking of these individuals, what would happen if you drafted "fighting age" men and took them out of their communities to serve, but didn't do the same for the millions of illegal immigrants scattered in communities throughout our nation?
What type of activity or impact might we expect to see if this occurred?
Just my random thought but I'm curious what impact others think might occur.
All I'm reading is news of the conflict between Ukraine and the Rus. This will cause consumers to stock up on NATO type ammo. UK is talking about a conscription system for all males under 60. Putin has threatened London with nuclear weapons in the past. If it goes hot, 9mm/5.56 will be unobtainable.
As a military retiree for the past 18.5 years with a significant VA disability rating, I'm certain I'd never be considered for recall to active service (I definitely fall outside of the official eligibility to be recalled).
But, I wondered, what are the possible exemptions for others from a draft? From the U.S. .gov official "Return To The Draft" website, here's what's listed for the various "Classifications" and the list of possible "Exemptions" (note: I'm not looking at the postponements or deferments, just exemptions):
Classifications
Men are not classified now. Classification is the process of determining who is available for military service and who is deferred or exempted. Classifications are based on each individual registrant's circumstances and beliefs. A classification program would go into effect when Congress and the President decide to resume a draft. At that time, men who are qualified for induction would have the opportunity to file a claim for exemptions, deferments, and postponements from military service.
The following is a list of the more commonly used Selective Service classifications from 1948 - 1976. Roman numerals I, II, III, IV, V were sometimes used:
1-A - Available for military service.
1-AM - Medical specialist available for military service.
1-A-O - Conscientious Objector (https://www.sss.gov/conscientious-objectors/) - Conscientiously opposed to training and military service requiring the use of arms - fulfills his service obligation in a noncombatant position within the military. Those classified 1-A-O are conscientious objectors available for noncombatant military service.
1-A-OM - Medical specialist conscientious objector available for noncombatant military service.
1-C - Member of the Armed Forces of the United States, the Coast and Geodetic Survey, or the Public Health Service. (Enl) - enlisted; (Ind) - inducted; (Dis) - discharged
1-D - Member of a Reserve component or student taking military training.
1-H - Registrant not currently subject to processing for induction or alternative service.
Note: Within the cessation of registrant processing in 1976, all registrants (except for a few alleged violators of the Military Selective Service Act) were classified 1-H regardless of any previous classification.
1-O - Conscientious objector (https://www.sss.gov/conscientious-objectors/) available for civilian work contributing to the national health, safety or interest.
1-OM - Medical specialist conscientious objector available for civilian work contributing to the national health, safety or interest.
1-S - Student deferred by status - (H) high school; (C) college.
1-W - Conscientious objector (https://www.sss.gov/conscientious-objectors/) performing civilian work in the national health, safety or interest. (Rel) - Released.
1-Y - Registrant qualified for service only in time of war or national emergency.
Note: The 1-Y classification was abolished December 10, 1971. Local boards were subsequently instructed to reclassify all 1-Y registrants by administrative action.
2-A - Registrant deferred because of civilian occupation (except agriculture).
2-AM - Medical specialist deferred because of critical community need involving patient care.
2-C - Registrant deferred because of agricultural occupation.
2-D - Ministerial Students - Deferred from military service.
2-M - Registrant deferred for medical study.
2-S - Registrant deferred because of activity in study.
3-A - Hardship Deferment - Deferred from military service because service would cause hardship upon his family.
4-A - Registrant who has completed service; or sole surviving son.
4-B - Official deferred by law.
4-C - Alien or Dual National - Sometimes exempt from military service.
4-D - Ministers of Religion - Exempted from military service.
4-E - Conscientious objector (https://www.sss.gov/conscientious-objectors/) opposed to both combatant and noncombatant training and service.
4-F - Registrant not qualified for military service.
4-FM - Medical specialist not qualified for military service.
4-G - Sole surviving son - son or brothers in a family where the parent or sibling died as a result of US military service, or is in a captured or M.I.A. status, are exempt from service in peacetime.
4-W - Conscientious objector (https://www.sss.gov/conscientious-objectors/) who has completed civilian alternate service.
5-A - Registrant over the age of liability for military service.
Student Postponements - A college student may have his induction postponed until he finishes the current semester or, if a senior, the end of the academic year. A high school student may have his induction postponed until he graduates or until he reaches age 20.
Appealing a Classification - A man may appeal his classification to a Selective Service Appeal Board
Exemptions
The following instances are eligible for exemptions in the event of a military draft:
Ministers
Certain elected officials, exempt so long as they continue to hold office.
Veterans, generally exempt from service in peacetime draft.
Immigrants and dual nationals in some cases may be exempt from U.S. military service depending upon their place of residence and country of citizenship. Learn more here. (https://www.sss.gov/register/immigrants/)
I find it particularly interesting how "Immigrants and dual nationals"..."may be exempt from U.S. military service"
With the HUGE influx of illegal immigrants flowing into our country (estimated by some at over 22 million), and no real tracking of these individuals, what would happen if you drafted "fighting age" men and took them out of their communities to serve, but didn't do the same for the millions of illegal immigrants scattered in communities throughout our nation?
What type of activity or impact might we expect to see if this occurred?
Just my random thought but I'm curious what impact others think might occur.