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callerys
02-29-2024, 17:31
https://www.ammoland.com/2024/02/atf-eforms-system-shut-down-claims-budgeting-concerns/#ixzz8T9i7twSE%C2%A0

Earlier in the week, AmmoLand News received a concerning tip from an anonymous source about the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) eForms system being shut down for the foreseeable future. This tip came through our anonymous tip box and was also given to YouTuber DLD After Dark by a second source and passed on to AmmoLand. Without verification, we were unable to share the information with the public.
EForms is the system that the ATF uses to process National Firearms Act (NFA) applications for things like silencers and short-barrel rifles. The majority of NFA applications are submitted through the eForms system, which replaced paper forms. The vast majority of gun shops that sell NFA items are dependent on the eForms system to process forms.


Since being informed of the pending shutdown, the eForms system went offline exactly when our sources predicted it would. AmmoLand News was able to verify the information with a third party that this wasn?t an unscheduled outage and was planned by the ATF. The vendor responsible for eForms received notification that the system would be taken offline for ?Congressional budgeting concerns.?

Although the email cited Congressional budgeting issues, it did not specify them. Currently, the government is facing a shutdown, but a deal for a continuing resolution (CR) has been reached, and the ATF is currently operating under the old resolution that isn?t due to expire until Friday. This fact leads many to wonder why the ATF decided to shut down the system.
EForms applications have been going through incredibly fast lately, leading many to wonder if the speed of approval was the ATF trying to clear out the backlog of applications before the system was taken offline. The ATF has been mum about the increased speed of approvals and why that hasn?t always been the case since eForms was launched. Excitement over the speed has turned to dread since the system was taken offline.


Congress specifically earmarks funding for the ATF?s eForms system to speed up the approval process of NFA) applications. By shutting down the system, it appears that the ATF is ignoring the wishes of Congress and breaking the law. To many, this shows a government agency that is out of control and doesn?t seem to be held accountable for its actions.
?The recommendation assumes that within the resources provided, ATF will prioritize funding for the National Firearms Act Division (https://www.congress.gov/congressional-report/117th-congress/house-report/395) to improve firearms licensing processing timelines,? Congress wrote. ?The Committee is concerned about the large number of pending applications awaiting processing by ATF. In 2013, ATF established eForms, an electronic filing process, to reduce submission and processing times as well as data entry processing backlogs. The Committee is aware ATF is currently developing ATF Form 4 into eForms and encourages ATF to prioritize funding for this continued development within the funds provided. Completing the modernization of the processing system and automating ATF Form 4 applications is critical and will free up additional resources for improved customer service and prevent backlogs from continuing to mount.?
AmmoLand News reached out to the ATF for comment, but our request was not returned by the time of writing. This situation is a fast-developing story with many moving parts. When more information becomes available, AmmoLand News will bring it to you.

BPTactical
02-29-2024, 17:33
Funny considering the alphabet boys just got sued for taking too long on approvals

def90
02-29-2024, 19:48
Yeah, I believe that ammoland news has been known to push end of the world fake news before.

callerys
02-29-2024, 20:01
Hadn't heard of them before. Not sure how accurate it is.

electronman1729
02-29-2024, 21:13
Daman, just bought a suppressor yesterday

buffalobo
02-29-2024, 21:48
https://eforms.atf.gov/



[https://eforms]


NOTIFICATION FOR EFORMS USERS:

The ATF eForms system is unavailable at the present time. We hope to complete our maintenance as soon as possible.

Please be advised:

If you use eForms to file the ATF Form 2 pursuant to 27 CFR 479.103, you will be permitted to submit the ATF Form 2 by the close of the next business day after the eForms system is back online. This delay in submitting your required ATF Form 2 is only applicable for this outage that began at 2358 on February 27, 2024. You should check periodically if eForms is back online.
While you may submit a paper application, you are encouraged to wait until the eForms system is back online.

FOR ASSISTANCE:

If you have any questions, please call the ATF NFA Helpline at 304 616 4500.


If you're unarmed, you are a victim.

BushMasterBoy
02-29-2024, 21:52
Methinks 'tis a cyber security issue. This is just like the military. They tell you one thing, but they really mean another thing. Read between the lines.

Sawin
03-01-2024, 12:07
Still offline at 11:07am MT today. [bs]

longrange2
03-01-2024, 15:39
Looks like it is back up now.

BPTactical
03-01-2024, 16:49
https://eforms.atf.gov/login;referrer=%2Fhome

rondog
03-01-2024, 18:23
Good thing I'm too po' to worry about such things.....

Oscar77
03-02-2024, 18:00
Yeah, I believe that ammoland news has been known to push end of the world fake news before.

And.................... this is the correct answer.................... big-bag-o-nothin-at-all.

Hummer
03-02-2024, 18:17
Maybe they should furlough the president and use the funds for getting the eform system back on track, you know, to protect the hearing of thousands of citizens.

DenverGP
03-02-2024, 21:53
96129

Sorry to interrupt a good conspiracy theory...

The simple answer is, the ATF's website programmers sucked and didn't account for Feb 29, so they had to take the system offline...

callerys
03-03-2024, 11:15
Yea glad to see it was a big nothing

eddiememphis
03-03-2024, 11:57
Y2K strikes again!

electronman1729
03-03-2024, 22:10
Heard eforms is down again. Can anyone confirm?

XXFattyHunterXX
03-03-2024, 23:00
Heard eforms is down again. Can anyone confirm?

It was down, up now.