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Supposedly, Trump and Biden are scheduled to debate LIVE on CNN this Thursday the 27th.
Allegedly, neither can have handwritten notes, teleprompters, earpieces, or confer with their staff during the 2 breaks... and Biden chose to use the right side podium rather than giving the final statement.
This debate will literally break the internet, I fully expect the stream to go down due to "bandwidth" or "technical difficulties" if not deliberate sabotage.
Is anyone taking bets on whether Joe soils his knickers again?
This is so much better than professional wrestling and almost as real.
eddiememphis
06-25-2024, 16:10
Interesting spectacle but not worth anyone's time.
The left will say Biden kicked ass. The right will claim Trump blew away his opponent.
There will be no "vote for me because...". It will be "don't vote for him because...".
The very few undecided are unlikely to be swayed in one direction or the other by the upcoming shit show.
It will be fun to see how high Biden will be and how many times he mush-mouths his word.
Trump is a funny guy who is usually able to throw in a couple good lines.
I'll wait for the replays, rather than watch real time. I don't have cable anyway, although CNN.com says they will air it.
Supposedly it will stream on all networks with the CNN watermark in the corner of the screen.
I have "Compares self to being Jesus on the cross" on my bingo card. The middle is a given, it's "Come on, guys"
I?d rather have a root canal than watch.
I'm not "undecided", so I won't watch, not even for entertainment. I'll wait for the "highlights" real afterwords.
I'll be tuning in! Looking forward to seeing how the moderators will handle 'things' and how much joe is amped-up.
Too many rules to follow. i want to see the 2 commercials they plan on airing and hear Trumps closing remarks.
Scanker19
06-26-2024, 17:07
I’ll wait for MSNBC to tell me how to think before I don’t make up my mind.
BushMasterBoy
06-26-2024, 18:44
The incumbent is spending a lot of time holed up @ Camp David
https://rollcall.com/factbase/biden/topic/calendar/
eddiememphis
06-26-2024, 20:24
The incumbent is spending a lot of time holed up @ Camp David
https://rollcall.com/factbase/biden/topic/calendar/
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-debate-prep-focused-ways-trigger-trump-former-president-relies-campaigning-reports
He's a busy guy- Biden has spent the last five days at Camp David in rural Maryland huddling with at least 16 current and former aides, according to The New York Times...
This is no joke. He is taking it very seriourly... cerealy... sessinisss... ah, you know what I mean- the thing!
It will be interesting to see where Biden stands. I mean IF he can stand the entire 42 minutes.
It will be interesting to see where Biden stands. I mean IF he can stand the entire 42 minutes.
Biden will be so spun on amphetamines he'll be doing cartwheels across the stage, lol.
Expect I will be able to smell the hot dumpster through the TV.
I'm torn. On one hand, watching Joe lock up in realtime will be entertaining (and kinda sad really), but all that will surely make the highlight reels. OTOH, it pains me to watch/listen to Trump nearly as much. He's just so inarticulate.
CNN is putting a two minute delay so they can edit in live time.
No matter what anyone says, these two pieces of shit, should not be president.
This is going to be good!
TEAMRICO
06-27-2024, 19:14
Joe starts to fall apart at the 12 minute mark.
They did not get the cocktail of drugs right.
eddiememphis
06-27-2024, 19:39
Biden does not look good.
He is getting destroyed on Twitter.
Gavin Newsome has a huge hard on right now. Probably on the phone with Jared Polis saying, "pack your bags, boyo. We're going to Warshington!"
TEAMRICO
06-27-2024, 19:56
Saying “Pack Your Bags” to Polis could be taken the wrong way!
Can't say I'm a huge fan of Trump either, but he's definitely the lesser of two shitbags. Anyone but Biden or any other Democrat.
TEAMRICO
06-27-2024, 20:10
Oof! Joe said Illegal Aliens!!! Cancel time!
bellavite1
06-27-2024, 20:30
Fucking mumbling idiot.
I had to put the closed captioning on, I can't understand a word Biden is saying...
eddiememphis
06-27-2024, 20:41
Fucking mumbling idiot.
I had to put the closed captioning on, I can't understand a word Biden is saying...
I don't envy that guy his job. He probably just typed what he hoped Joe was saying.
TEAMRICO
06-27-2024, 21:07
Hey, Joe beat Medicare……so he has that going for him.
The "debate" was a national embarrassment. Neither was able to clearly state any fact, policy, or goal. They were like two 7 year old's bragging and accusing, tit for tat. It was a truly pathetic showing of two incompetent clowns vying to be leader of the most prosperous and powerful country in the world.
As I predicted, the movement to pressure Biden to end his candidacy and step down as president has begun. The democrats will replace Biden, and Trump will likely face someone clearly brighter and more capable than himself. The only hope for the Republicans is to replace Trump, and do it fast.
Debate tonight was off the hook.
Trump, as expected, presented as an unlikeable blowhard who ignored all the questions presented to him.
Biden... well, it's appallingly obvious why they hid him from the cameras since day one of his "Weekend at Bernie's" Presidency... but at least he didn't obviously shit himself on air... maybe his handlers gave him the corkscrew plug... they certainly did not give him any amphetamines as expected. He was totally incoherent.
Every CNN analyst tore him apart as unfit to hold office and stated the DNC is in "panic mode." If he refuses to step down they will invoke the 25th Amendment to remove him from office due to his inability to continue as POTUS.
Oof! Joe said Illegal Aliens!!! Cancel time!
I heard "Immigrant."
The "debate" was a national embarrassment. Neither was able to clearly state any fact, policy, or goal. They were like two 7 year old's bragging and accusing, tit for tat. It was a truly pathetic showing of two incompetent clowns vying to be leader of the most prosperous and powerful country in the world.
As I predicted, the movement to pressure Biden to end his candidacy and step down as president has begun. The democrats will replace Biden, and Trump will likely face someone clearly brighter and more capable than himself. The only hope for the Republicans is to replace Trump, and do it fast.
That's pretty much my take.
Trump did not disappoint with his blathering inarticulate mutterings. But I guess everyone expects that from him.
Wife and I played Biden Bingo.
First vaporlock, first stutter, first convicted felon, first "Fine People" aka Trump's a Nazi, first c'mon man, etc.
BushMasterBoy
06-27-2024, 23:36
I watched some youtube discussion by journalists, then it said the video was unavailable. I guess the constitutional republic has really morphed into a military industrial complex. We were warned by Eisenhower about this. The basis of the discussion was an adjudicated rapist felon versus a senile incompetent. Then the video went blank.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n89KRvz6Tdw
Bailey Guns
06-28-2024, 06:58
"The idea that..." If I ever hear that phrase again I'll likely choke the person saying it.
And from Trump everything was "...the best it's ever been" or a form of that.
I'd like a reset button on the choices this election. Since that's not on the table I guess I'll vote for the convicted felon. I'll admit I don't like the man...but life in this country was a lot better with him in charge over the senile plagiarist.
eddiememphis
06-28-2024, 08:01
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/06/presidential-debate-cnn-biden-drop-out-replace-nominee-dnc.html
Slate- Biden Must Drop Out.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/06/joe-biden-donald-trump-debate-disaster/
Mother Jones- This was not only a missed chance. It was a disaster. Afterward Democrats had good cause to be in despair and to wonder if disarray was on its way.
https://newrepublic.com/article/183242/joe-biden-debate-performance-disaster-trump
The New Republic- Ditch Biden. That Debate Performance Was a Disaster.
Joe Biden’s job at Thursday’s debate should have been easy. He failed on every level.
Poor old Joe. Nobody likes him today.
Kamala is on the phone right now, looking for a VP candidate that can run with her.
One a side note, I don't even know if someone can be dropped/swapped at this stage.
Presidential elections have deadlines to appear on State ballots. What are they going to do, have all the libs write in "bert and ernie" on their ballot? Unless they 24th him, which I don't see happening.
BladesNBarrels
06-28-2024, 09:42
Interesting timing.
Neither has yet been confirmed as a candidate by their respective parties, but both are the presumed candidates.
I was frustrated that this was the best and the brightest that our voters could figure out to be running for president.
A true disappointment that is fast becoming alarm.
I've always wanted the option of "Catapult" on the ballot. If it gets the majority both candidates are hurled into the ocean. A new election is held in 6 months.
eddiememphis
06-28-2024, 10:48
One a side note, I don't even know if someone can be dropped/swapped at this stage.
Presidential elections have deadlines to appear on State ballots. What are they going to do, have all the libs write in "bert and ernie" on their ballot? Unless they 24th him, which I don't see happening.
Until the conventions, it is not decided, regardless of the primaries and caucuses. The delegates decide who is going to represent their party. If someone drops out, there is a scramble to pick up those delegates.
From NPR-
Biden must ultimately win the majority of the nearly 4,000 ?pledged? delegates at the DNC ? so, if there?s enough opposition from uncommitted delegates or delegates for other candidates, the president would fall short of winning the nomination in the first round of balloting. That could potentially lead to the political chaos of a brokered convention, which hasn?t happened for either party since 1952.
I have no idea what would happen if he quit after the convention, although there must be rules in place for that as well.
Slate has a good article about the possibilities HERE (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/06/presidential-debate-cnn-biden-drop-out-replace-nominee-dnc.html).
BushMasterBoy
06-28-2024, 12:38
It does not matter who wins. The role of president is as a figurehead. The real power is in the daily operations of the IC.
These are the people that really run the country...
https://www.intelligence.gov/
colorider
06-28-2024, 17:01
It is clear that Biden is NOT able to handle his position. Hell, 99% of the world would not trust him to watch their toddler for 5 minutes.
Am I the only one who thinks a handshake should have been offered/exchanged at the start of this thing? I'm sure it was discussed by both candidates' handlers, why would they decide not to go there? Someone could have made a big impression by showing a little respect for the opposition.
Wrong choice in my opinion. Any comments?
On the other hand, one of those fake handshake/hair grooming tricks would have been a classic for Trump to pull!
BushMasterBoy
06-28-2024, 17:57
The debate was not open to a public audience. The whole process is a sham and the house of cards will collapse soon. Or Kamala Harris will win, which is basically the same thing. I don't trust either candidate.
I think if two opponents shook hands and then spoke respectfully about how they would improve the country instead of running a two hour pathological attack against their opponent,
People would probably think both we're mentally ill because we've never seen that before.
In the words of a Texan "It ain't right!"
Truthfully American presidential politics are entirely about who Americans don't want.
It's almost never about who they do.
Foxtrot.
You are right. I don’t want a democrat.
I want someone like Rand Paul.
But that isn’t a choice I have.
Also game theory comes into play. Unless I believed someone like Rand Paul could win, I will cast my votes in two ways
1) prevent what I don’t want
2) best chance of beating what I don’t want
I am not a Trump fan. But I dispise almost all democrats (who are now socialists and communists).
Reasonable democrats are mostly gone
It’s sad the best chance of GOP winning is Trump…
BushMasterBoy
06-29-2024, 10:58
Biden seemed sickly if you ask me. It was as if he just got over COVID or something. There is something going on they are not telling us!
ChadAmberg
06-29-2024, 12:16
Biden seemed sickly if you ask me. It was as if he just got over COVID or something. There is something going on they are not telling us!
Except they took him to a (completely staged) meet and greet at Waffle House right after. If he was sick, WTF are they doing exposing him to all those people?
hurley842002
06-30-2024, 01:08
Foxtrot.
You are right. I don?t want a democrat.
I want someone like Rand Paul.
But that isn?t a choice I have.
Also game theory comes into play. Unless I believed someone like Rand Paul could win, I will cast my votes in two ways
1) prevent what I don?t want
2) best chance of beating what I don?t want
I am not a Trump fan. But I dispise almost all democrats (who are now socialists and communists).
Reasonable democrats are mostly gone
This is pretty much where I stand, I am the party of freedom, and keeping the most money in my pocket aka lower taxes. I don?t care what letter or color you have beside your name.
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I think they should be allowed to cuss at the debate.
eddiememphis
07-01-2024, 10:47
I think they should be allowed to cuss at the debate.
I think they should settle it Code Duello.
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/burr-vs-hamilton-behind-the-ultimate-political-feud#:~:text=The%20final%20straw%20for%20Burr,men% 20had%20experience%20with%20them.
July 11, 1804. "The final straw for Aaron Burr was the publication of a letter in a newspaper that said Alexander Hamilton demeaned Burr's character. Burr demanded Hamilton apologize for the insults or explain them. Hamilton stayed quiet, so Burr demanded a duel."
Arguing about golf handicaps is for fags. Act like men and meet in a field in New Jersey, ten paces apart.
hollohas
07-02-2024, 13:15
The scary fact is that 30% of the population still thinks Biden is the best choice.
But what should be an eye opener for those sleeping is the fact that the media is pretending that they had no idea Biden was this bad. They seem surprised, which I have a hard time believing is genuine. There is no way that many people in the media are so utterly stupid/blind that they didn't notice until now. They have been actively "debunking" any story that he is a potato. So what changed during the debate? Why are they admitting it now? It should be clear to everyone now that the media is completely full of shit and can't be trusted.
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But what should be an eye opener for those sleeping is the fact that the media is pretending that they had no idea Biden was this bad. They seem surprised, which I have a hard time believing is genuine. There is no way that many people in the media are so utterly stupid/blind that they didn't notice until now. They have been actively "debunking" any story that he is a potato. So what changed during the debate? Why are they admitting it now?
Seems like a game they've been playing since Day One: keep Joe hidden from the public eye, have him leave very brief press conferences without taking any questions, and keep making excuses for him. They could've avoided the debate altogether if they wanted to, and this was a deliberate premeditated choice to put him out there unprepared and unmedicated knowing the world would be shocked by how inarticulate and lost the alleged "leader" of America is.
They intend to replace him with someone other than Kamala Harris, who is even less popular than he is and cannot win even on a "Not Trump" platform.
It will not be Newsome... it'll probably be Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia who is just as bad, and in some ways worse.
Trump may be an egotistical, self-centered, foul-mouth & shrewd businessman, but he is OUR egotistical, self-centered, foul-mouth & shrewd businessman.
Great-Kazoo
07-03-2024, 12:55
Seems like a game they've been playing since Day One: keep Joe hidden from the public eye, have him leave very brief press conferences without taking any questions, and keep making excuses for him. They could've avoided the debate altogether if they wanted to, and this was a deliberate premeditated choice to put him out there unprepared and unmedicated knowing the world would be shocked by how inarticulate and lost the alleged "leader" of America is.
They intend to replace him with someone other than Kamala Harris, who is even less popular than he is and cannot win even on a "Not Trump" platform.
It will not be Newsome... it'll probably be Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia who is just as bad, and in some ways worse.
If they do that. The D's mantra of inclusivity for all will be flushed down the shitter.
To ignore the first female V.P who is also a person of color, ignoring her ancestors owned slaves. Would not go over well with the already triggered voter base they've been courting forever. Bypass the current V.P and go with a white guy or gal. Yeah that will paly well with their alphabet gender crowd
How would they deal with the democracy thing by arbitrarily placing another candidate on the ballot? Voters in thier primaries voted for Joe, not Kamala or anyone else. What's the point of voting in primaries if they can just appoint any candidate they wish?
This sounds like so much more of an "attack on our democracy" than anything they have accused Trump of. I imagine this bypassing of democracy wouldn't sit well with many independents, or would face many legal challenges to the legitimately of any candidate other than Joe.
Only way to legitimately replace an elected candidate would for that candidate to die.
Only way to legitimately replace an elected candidate would for that candidate to die. That may be the democratic party's "Plan B".
Bailey Guns
07-04-2024, 06:24
There are FEC issues if they replace Biden as the nominee by anyone other than Harris. $240M in campaign money goes to the DNC and they have limited options to disburse that legally.
Biden won't resign prior to his term ending because Speaker Johnson will become VP. The democrat party is in a bit of a pickle right now. But not to worry. I have confidence the R party has a plan up their sleeve to collectively fuck up any advantage these democrat party problems are causing the dems. They're masters at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Bailey Guns
07-04-2024, 06:38
Whatever the Ds decide to do, they need to do it by Aug 7. That's the deadline for getting a candidate on the ballot in Ohio.
eddiememphis
07-04-2024, 10:27
If they do that. The D's mantra of inclusivity for all will be flushed down the shitter.
To ignore the first female V.P who is also a person of color, ignoring her ancestors owned slaves. Would not go over well with the already triggered voter base they've been courting forever. Bypass the current V.P and go with a white guy or gal. Yeah that will paly well with their alphabet gender crowd
Under normal circumstances I would agree but there is a huge orange issue you are overlooking.
Many, if not most, on the left would gladly pause their handwringing over identity politics to keep "the ultimate threat to our democracy" out of office.
Never underestimate their hatred and fear of Trump. And their desire for the power. Remember "...fundamentally transforming the United States of America"? That has not waned in the least.
The past eight years of constant negative reports on most news outlets has convinced many non-political types that the country may truly be in peril if he is re-elected.
eddiememphis
07-04-2024, 10:32
Whatever the Ds decide to do, they need to do it by Aug 7. That's the deadline for getting a candidate on the ballot in Ohio.
How can that be when the convention is the 19th-22nd?
Is there an actual nominating process that happens before then?
Edit- yes, there is. The Convention is nonsense.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/biden-team-suggests-can-no-alternative-dnc-rules-provide-path-rcna160092
"Biden's nomination is expected to occur before that, in a virtual roll call of state delegations in late July or early August. The convention's rules committee is expected to set a date at a meeting July 19."
BladesNBarrels
07-05-2024, 11:18
Maybe the US should take a page from the UK's election process.
The official campaign period in the UK is 25 working days, or roughly five weeks.
The last US presidential campaign lasted nearly 600 days, and this go around looks to break that record.
Grant H.
07-06-2024, 14:43
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SJr44m-w1Y
Good for some chuckles.
Some here won't like it... Oh well...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SJr44m-w1Y
Good for some chuckles.
Some here won't like it... Oh well...
It was worth the 15 minutes, thanks.
I like John Stewart as a comedian, and that was good, but he's infected with quite a bit of TDS.
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