View Full Version : Govt. Shutdown?.again?
TEAMRICO
09-30-2025, 21:22
Does anyone know if the sun will rise tomorrow if the Gov. shuts down?
Our active duty grandson isn't real thrilled about paycheck interruptions.
Yes BOB will return. BUT I AM curious about our quick Form4 responses times. :(
TEAMRICO
09-30-2025, 22:34
Ugh, I just submitted a Form 1 tonight!
The world is coming to an end!
Ugh, I just submitted a Form 1 tonight!
The world is coming to an end!
Fox 31 just reported that "the government has gone dark"... While showing the white house all light up LOL.
hurley842002
09-30-2025, 23:13
Our active duty grandson isn't real thrilled about paycheck interruptions.The shutdowns I've been involved with don't typically affect servicemembers, it's just everyone else that is still required to report to work that don't get paid (immediately).
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rfenster
09-30-2025, 23:25
'They' were saying that for Federal workers who get paid this week on the 1st, 2nd or on Friday, their paychecks will be/have been cut and they will get paid.
The next paycheck on the 15th or 16th of November is in Jeopardy(tm) unless some sort of agreement is made before then.
Talk to your bank(s) early if employed. Essentially all prior impactful shutdowns the banks themselves continued to front paychecks.
Because they know it's all political theator. At the end of the day, it becomes unplanned fully-paid time off work for hundreds of thousands of employees.
The gov backpays everything once its resolved, the banks don't lose money because they don't have cascading mortgage faults, overdrafts and chaos. In essense, the banks know it's a fully guaranteed paycheck loan by uncle sam.
There isn't a shutdown that is ever about saving money, it's merely political opportunity for a song and dance.
Both parties are the same when it comes to saving a nickel.
Now... if your bank hasn't sorted it out yet, pay attention to the news and switch banks if you need to, but they will quickly get on board, again.
JohnnyDrama
10-01-2025, 04:07
By the time this was posted, it was already "tomorrow" on Wake Island.
HoneyBadger
10-01-2025, 06:25
Our active duty grandson isn't real thrilled about paycheck interruptions.
Active Duty will continue to get paid by nearly every bank. Does he have USAA, Navy Fed, or another bank that caters specifically to the military community? If so, he'll be fine. In each of the 3 gov shutdowns since the turn of the century (including the longest ever - 34 days - in 2018), these banks have continued to pay their active duty members because they know they will get backpay from the government.
For federal civilian employees, the final paycheck will be 10 Oct to cover the pay period through 30 Sep. This sucks, but the good news is that it is codified in law (Government Employee Fair Treatment Act of 2019) for all furloughed civilian employees to be paid retroactively once an appropriation is approved.
Good to hear guys, thank you!
the Gov is not truly shut down if they are still taking taxes out of my paycheck.
I think Ent Credit union sent out an e-mail about offering help during this time period.
kidicarus13
10-01-2025, 20:07
I think Ent Credit union sent out an e-mail about offering help during this time period.
At Ent Credit Union, we understand that a government shutdown may create financial challenges for many, including federal employees, government contractors and military personnel. We?re here to help with solutions designed to support you during this time.
Who may qualify for assistance:
Federal employees, government contractors and military personnel.
If you?ve been impacted by the government shutdown, you may qualify for our support programs.
How we can help:
You may be able to defer your loan payment without penalty
For any other assistance, please call us at?800-525-9623?or?stop by any service center?or visit?Ent.com.
You may be able to use our?Skip-a-Pay program?if your loan qualifies
Please be aware
If you are closing a mortgage and have an FHA or VA loan, or will need flood insurance, please check with your mortgage processor. All other mortgages will not be impacted by the shutdown.
We're here to help
We?re here to provide the support and resources you need to navigate this time with confidence. Thank you for being a valued Ent member.
theGinsue
10-28-2025, 19:47
Has anyone else been tracking all of the Social Media talk from the SNAP/EBT community regarding their plans for this weekend (particularly Saturday) if they don't get their benefits on Saturday?
- I've seen countless videos suggesting the plan to attempt to scan purchases and then present EBT - if nothing is on the card, they'll just walk out with the groceries anyway.
- I've seen videos suggesting a mass run for the door with full carts of food, indicating "they can't stop us all".
- I've also seen videos where they say they'll lay in wait for other shoppers to come out of the store with groceries, and then steal them.
There's suggestions that some grocery &/or mega box stores (like WalMart) will be locking their doors to customers (employees only). All purchases will be required to be online pre-paid where the employees will bring your items out the door for you to pick up.
Has anyone else been hearing any of this? Is anyone planning to avoid shopping or go out with increased threat awareness? Anyone think it's all just hype and little to nothing will occur?
Thoughts.
TEAMRICO
10-28-2025, 20:29
And just WHO might these people be doing all this talking?
BushMasterBoy
10-28-2025, 21:05
40 million hungry Americans? What could possibly go wrong? Martial law without paying your military?
The big problem will be the low income neighborhoods of the big cities. NY, LA, etc.
Will the police really arrest you for stealing one potato?
kidicarus13
10-28-2025, 21:13
Jeffco's website states...
Should have always been required, IMO.
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theGinsue
10-28-2025, 23:30
And just WHO might these people be doing all this talking?
The videos I've seen have been pretty diverse. Men, women (mostly women), white, black and hispanic. Not sure where these folks are from, but my guess is they're scattered in different locations across the U.S.
40 million hungry Americans? What could possibly go wrong? Martial law without paying your military?
The big problem will be the low income neighborhoods of the big cities. NY, LA, etc.
Will the police really arrest you for stealing one potato?
The mindset of the folks in question pertaining to this discussion is not resorting to theft for basic sustenance. Ain't nobody in said group going out to heist a single potato.
The gov. shut down just gives em another reason to rob, rap, and steal. Not like they haven't been doing it anyways.
The mindset of the folks in question pertaining to this discussion is not resorting to theft for basic sustenance. Ain't nobody in said group going out to heist a single potato.
Logged in just to say this, though you are polite about it.
Besides we already have this going on, the videos you see are of gangs, sorry large random groups, taking things like jewelry, clothes and such.
NOT potatoes.
So it's PURGE on Friday?!?!?!?
This will be the GREATEST HALLOWEEN EVER.
I'm hesitant to put much faith in social media talk.
Will you see an increase in shoplifting? I'd expect a slight increase.
Social media blowharding has about the predictive accuracy of teenage gamers that promise they are going to "f's someone's mom" vs. those that actually do.
kidicarus13
10-29-2025, 12:33
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Aloha_Shooter
10-29-2025, 13:44
I expect there will be a slight tick upward, mostly from people looking for any excuse to steal and hoping for a broad trend to cover their tracks.
I don't expect much of this in El Paso, Douglas, or Teller Counties (despite the apparent involvement of Colorado Springs Antifa in generating the hit list that included the TPUSA guy assaulted in Boulder).
I also wasn't planning on doing much this weekend outside of some much-needed home maintenance.
People have been running out the store with cartloads of groceries since COVID... typically they fill their cart with steaks, jumbo shrimp, beer, maybe some candy. Happens at least a half dozen times daily at the store I shop at.
I'm hesitant to put much faith in social media talk.
Will you see an increase in shoplifting? I'd expect a slight increase.
Social media blowharding has about the predictive accuracy of teenage gamers that promise they are going to "f's someone's mom" vs. those that actually do.
That and how many celebrities PROMISED and SWORE TO GOD they would leave if Pres Trump won the reelection?
And then didn't?
I just contacted Hickenlooper and Bennet's offices and simply told them to vote yes on the existing budget.
I urge everyone here to do the same.
I'm hoping they clearly ignore the will of their constituents and get caught doing so.
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theGinsue
10-29-2025, 22:09
I figure the .gov will capitulate and fund the food. Nutrition assistance will be way cheaper than civil unrest.
Not sure which house, Rep's or Senate, but there was a vote today in at least one of the houses to fund SNAP (and EBT) AND pay federal employees. It wasn't passed.
At the Nascar championship races in Phoenix, there was no fly over, no military color guard and no military recruiting vendors setup in the midway.
Did any of the other sports ball events lack these the past few weeks?
Aloha_Shooter
11-04-2025, 15:58
At the Nascar championship races in Phoenix, there was no fly over, no military color guard and no military recruiting vendors setup in the midway.
Did any of the other sports ball events lack these the past few weeks?
Yes, United did a flyover at one event with one of their 777s to replace the military flyover. If NASCAR really cared, they could have reached out to one of the many veterans groups in Phoenix for a color guard. I felt like NASCAR went the way of many other professional sports when they bent over backwards for the Bubba Wallace "noose" fraud.
HoneyBadger
11-04-2025, 17:50
At the Nascar championship races in Phoenix, there was no fly over, no military color guard and no military recruiting vendors setup in the midway.
Did any of the other sports ball events lack these the past few weeks?
USAFA vs Army Football game had a privately-funded warbird flyover. Was neat.... but not the same as 4x F22s in full afterburner.
. At the end of the day, it becomes unplanned fully-paid time off work for hundreds of thousands of employees.
Why should the tax payers who continue to work pay their salaries.
It should be ?if you don?t show up.. you won?t get back pay?
I think fed gov employees like the extra paid time off?
Why should the tax payers who continue to work pay their salaries.
It should be ?if you don?t show up.. you won?t get back pay?
I think fed gov employees like the extra paid time off?
Should only be paid if they used thier paid leave to cover the days off.
Should only be paid if they used thier paid leave to cover the days off.
You know, conservatives work heavily in the government too.
What if you, in your job, are told they will be taking an arbitrary break from paying you, but you're expected to keep showing up and continuing to work full time, while also covering shifts for those quitting or not showing up, and oh, maybe someday, we'll pay you back (with massive deductions taken out of an improperly calculated check), but also, maybe not, and if you quit, fuck you and any back pay.
Why should the tax payers who continue to work pay their salaries.
It should be ?if you don?t show up.. you won?t get back pay?
I think fed gov employees like the extra paid time off?
Know any fed gov employees or contractors? Pretty sure people like stability and regular paychecks, not chaos, and forced furloughs, for non-specific times, and also with no clarity of if they will even receive backpay.
Facing possibly homelessness or bankruptcy while driving for Uber at minimum wage is probably not how they want to spend "time off".
Most people live paycheck-to-paycheck these days....
TEAMRICO
11-07-2025, 14:30
In the end the R’s will cave and give the Dems everything they want and we will be on our way to the NEXT shutdown.
The R’s will always get the blame.
Firehaus
11-07-2025, 14:39
Most people live paycheck-to-paycheck these days....
?because they have their food uber?d to them once a day or more.
The amount of wasteful spending I see is mind blowing. If you can pay all your bills and want doordash, go forcit. If you door-dash, then want sympathy for not being able to pay your rent, no sympathy is given.
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BushMasterBoy
11-07-2025, 16:35
From what I am reading, the impasse hinges on the GOP agreeing to extending the ACA tax credit. In the mean time Cape Canaveral is ordered to only do night time launches due to staffing shortages.
Know any fed gov employees or contractors? Pretty sure people like stability and regular paychecks, not chaos, and forced furloughs, for non-specific times, and also with no clarity of if they will even receive backpay.
Facing possibly homelessness or bankruptcy while driving for Uber at minimum wage is probably not how they want to spend "time off".
Most people live paycheck-to-paycheck these days....
Holy Crap!
WE might agree on something. Sortta.
FWIW: Most? Alot? of the Federal workers I know are still working so this "we are paying them but they aren't working" argument isn't valid. The ones that are furloughed aren't working OR getting paid.
They have received assurances that things like rent/mortgage wont be defaulted and will be allowed to "get caught up" once this clears.
And yes they will receive back pay, but that doesn't make it right or easy.
The Dems have reached a new low: They are truly and without question leveraging all this just to score some sort of point.
They dont give a rats ass about these workers........... they IMMEDIATELY refused a bill that would pay Fed workers during shut downs like this.
They dont care, they just need a win, any sort of win against Trump as so far he's been destroying them.
Holy Crap!
WE might agree on something. Sortta.
FWIW: Most? Alot? of the Federal workers I know are still working so this "we are paying them but they aren't working" argument isn't valid. The ones that are furloughed aren't working OR getting paid.
They have received assurances that things like rent/mortgage wont be defaulted and will be allowed to "get caught up" once this clears.
And yes they will receive back pay, but that doesn't make it right or easy.
The Dems have reached a new low: They are truly and without question leveraging all this just to score some sort of point.
They dont give a rats ass about these workers........... they IMMEDIATELY refused a bill that would pay Fed workers during shut downs like this.
They dont care, they just need a win, any sort of win against Trump as so far he's been destroying them.
Despite signing a bill last time to the contrary, hasn't Trump broadly stated that furloughed workers wouldn't be paid? Not disagreeing with you, but just pointing out for all that there's no predictability here in any regard.
Dems are a huge issue, GOP doesn't have clean underwear either.
Gov Shutdowns impacting peoples pay is nothing new and will keep happening. Gov workers not being prepared for what they KNOW will happen again and again and again results in zero empathy from me. If you choose to work for the Gov or rely on the Gov handouts disruption can and will happen. If people don’t like how this impacts them, get a Job that doesn’t rely on the Gov to get paid.
Know any fed gov employees or contractors? Pretty sure people like stability and regular paychecks, not chaos, and forced furloughs, for non-specific times, and also with no clarity of if they will even receive backpay.
Facing possibly homelessness or bankruptcy while driving for Uber at minimum wage is probably not how they want to spend "time off".
Most people live paycheck-to-paycheck these days....
IMHO, most people live well beyond their means.
What happened to having a minimum of 6 month salary/expenses saved? Most of those fed jobs, and especially ATC, are well paying jobs.
If a 2-income family are both dependent on gov jobs, well I think that's just piss poor planning.
HoneyBadger
11-09-2025, 08:14
IMHO, most people live well beyond their means.
What happened to having a minimum of 6 month salary/expenses saved? Most of those fed jobs, and especially ATC, are well paying jobs.
If a 2-income family are both dependent on gov jobs, well I think that's just piss poor planning.
1000% agree. The standard of living in America is so incredibly high compared to anywhere else on Earth.... especially when you consider historical standards. Our cars are nicer, houses bigger, everyone has massive TVs and fancy $1k phones.
Good times create weak men.
It is looking like real soon now (tm) that things will start to open back up.
Aloha_Shooter
11-10-2025, 10:43
What happened to having a minimum of 6 month salary/expenses saved? Most of those fed jobs, and especially ATC, are well paying jobs.
What I remember from high school was a recommendation of 2-3 months salary/expenses to be saved/available as cash or very liquid assets, not 6. Personally, I have about 8 months salary in cash simply because I didn't see any investments I felt comfortable with over the past few years and because I was raised to be frugal (read: cheap as f--k). I put about half of that into rotating certificates of deposit since the bank pays such horrible interest on savings accounts right now.
I have noticed that people have been raised to not be able to distinguish between want and need for the last generation or so. That current generation is all about instant gratification. That's probably a combination of the post-WWII consumer economy that replaced the traditional thrifty Yankee culture, a post-9/11 cultural reaction, and a continuing cultural transformation away from personal responsibility.
eddiememphis
11-10-2025, 13:28
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7974x7248go
Seven Senate Democrats plus one independent voted on Sunday to support a Republican deal to reopen the US government...none of them faces re-election in 2026...
What I remember from high school was a recommendation of 2-3 months salary/expenses to be saved/available as cash or very liquid assets, not 6. Personally, I have about 8 months salary in cash simply because I didn't see any investments I felt comfortable with over the past few years and because I was raised to be frugal (read: cheap as f--k). I put about half of that into rotating certificates of deposit since the bank pays such horrible interest on savings accounts right now.
I have noticed that people have been raised to not be able to distinguish between want and need for the last generation or so. That current generation is all about instant gratification. That's probably a combination of the post-WWII consumer economy that replaced the traditional thrifty Yankee culture, a post-9/11 cultural reaction, and a continuing cultural transformation away from personal responsibility.
I think you're confusing an engagement ring with a contingency fund. ;-)
I think you're confusing an engagement ring with a contingency fund. ;-)
I had the same thought, after hearing that nonsense about “6 months salary on the ring”, and can’t ever forget it… such hogwash. If your fianc?e is eager for that threshold, and doesn’t actively say that’s wasteful, leave her…. She’s gonna cost you. Spending even 5 figures ($10k+) on a ring is plenty. My wife’s ring wasn’t even that much and it’s immaculate and gets compliments all the time, even after 14 years+.
electronman1729
11-15-2025, 14:28
Cant be coincidental?
cbsnews.com/news/fetterman-hospitalized-over-fall-near-his-pennsylvania-home/
HoneyBadger
11-15-2025, 15:09
Cant be coincidental?
cbsnews.com/news/fetterman-hospitalized-over-fall-near-his-pennsylvania-home/
Yeah, interesting coincidence that the one guy who was outspoken against his own party and blamed them for the ACA, the cost of subsidies and for the shutdown in general has an "accident" with severe head trauma
kidicarus13
11-15-2025, 16:29
has an "accident" with severe head trauma
The linked article states, "...hitting his face with minor injuries."
theGinsue
11-16-2025, 10:33
Cant be coincidental?
cbsnews.com/news/fetterman-hospitalized-over-fall-near-his-pennsylvania-home/
Yeah, interesting coincidence that the one guy who was outspoken against his own party and blamed them for the ACA, the cost of subsidies and for the shutdown in general has an "accident" with severe head trauma
The linked article states, "...hitting his face with minor injuries."
I've read reports that very recently (within ~1 week of his "accident"), Chuck Shumer pulled strings to change the Congressional doctor for Fetterman & that this doctor prescribed a combination of meds, predominantly high blood pressure meds, that (when taken together without ramp up time to adjust to each one) was practically lethal. If this is true, Fetterman is lucky to still be alive.
HoneyBadger
11-16-2025, 12:40
The linked article states, "...hitting his face with minor injuries."
Did you see any pictures? He got 22 stiches across his forehead. Certainly not something I would consider to be "minor".
kidicarus13
11-16-2025, 18:05
Did you see any pictures? He got 22 stiches across his forehead.
I did now...
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bellavite1
11-16-2025, 19:00
I did now...
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I think it's called a face-plant...
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