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theGinsue
02-14-2010, 23:38
So, California has some of the strongest anit-gun (er, "Gun Control") legislation in the nation and still they have some of the highest violent crimes using firearms. Too bad these morons can't see the direct associations here.


Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_church_service_shooting
Gunman opens fire at Calif. church, wounds 2 teens

By TERRY COLLINS, Associated Press Writer Terry Collins, Associated Press Writer – 47 mins ago
RICHMOND, Calif. – A gunman wearing a hooded sweatshirt and flanked by two companions walked into a San Francisco Bay area church and stalked the aisles before opening fire during a Sunday service, wounding two teenagers, police said.
The three men wore their hoods over their heads and investigators believe they were scanning the pews for someone before firing about five shots and hitting a 14-year-old boy and a 19-year-old man at about 12:30 p.m. in front of about 100 people at New Gethsemane Church of God in Christ, Richmond police Sgt. Bisa French said.
Charles Miller, a 64-year-old deacon at the church, said members of the congregation were about to tell the men to take off their hoods when the shooting began.
"I was listening to the choir and all of a sudden there was a 'pop pop pop pop pop,'" Miller told the San Francisco Chronicle. "Everyone hit the floor. I didn't know the shooting was inside the church at first, until I heard all of the hollering and screaming."
The 14-year-old was hit in the shoulder and the 19-year-old was struck in the leg, French said. Both victims, whose names haven't been released, were hospitalized and were expected to survive. There were no other injuries.
The three men fled and no suspects have been arrested, French said.
"It's terrible when you come to the house of the Lord and start doing this," Miller said. "It's just something you don't do."
Investigators believe the men were targeting someone in the church but don't know if the two who were hit were the intended targets, French said.
"If it wasn't the victims that were hit, it was somebody near them," she said.
French said investigators were interviewing witnesses to see if anyone recognized the men.
A handful of congregants returned to the church after police processed the crime scene and finished the service.
"We went on and had church anyway," Miller told the Chronicle. "We were giving thanks that nobody was killed. We wanted to go and serve the Lord anyway."
The small, off-white two-story church is surrounded by a red-and white wrought-iron fence in a residential section of Richmond, a city of 103,000 on the eastern Bay shoreline north of Oakland and Berkeley.
The city has already seen seven homicides in 2010, and garnered national attention because of the alleged gang rape by as many as 10 people of a 16-year-old girl outside an October homecoming dance at Richmond High School, with as many as 20 bystanders allegedly watching.

Ridge
02-14-2010, 23:59
The 4 highest crime rate regions in the US also have the most stringent gun control measures...now guess which one doesnt help the other...

California
New York City
Chicago
Washington, D.C. (besides the thieves in the big white buildings)

GreenScoutII
02-15-2010, 00:49
Gun control has no effect on violent crime except to make it easier to perpetrate.

Troublco
02-15-2010, 00:49
It isn't really about crime control. It's about US control - US, as in you and me.

Batteriesnare
02-15-2010, 01:28
There's too much money to be made in crime for the .gov, hell, they're as bad as most criminals on the streets. The only difference is they wear suits and ties.

Troublco
02-15-2010, 10:27
There's too much money to be made in crime for the .gov, hell, they're as bad as most criminals on the streets. The only difference is they wear suits and ties.

+1. Prisons are a profit industry. Look at all the private ones. Wouldn't want to actually reduce crime, therefore reducing their profits. Not to mention UNICOR, the Federal Prison Industry. They'd lose so much of their almost-free labor, while we pay the costs of keeping those same workers locked up.

theGinsue
02-15-2010, 18:28
There isn't one comment here that I don't agree with 100%.

sniper7
02-16-2010, 13:33
It is a shame to see gun control, the true control is of law abiding citizens yet the antis think they are doing us all a favor...they seem to forget the realization that the criminals are just that, and they will continue to break the laws no matter what restriction are imposed on them.

If control worked so well, why do we have so many drug addicts...drugs are illegal you know[NoEvil]

cowboykjohnson
02-16-2010, 14:26
It is a shame to see gun control, the true control is of law abiding citizens yet the antis think they are doing us all a favor...they seem to forget the realization that the criminals are just that, and they will continue to break the laws no matter what restriction are imposed on them.

If control worked so well, why do we have so many drug addicts...drugs are illegal you know[NoEvil]
+1 It all just makes the honest person more honest.

sniper7
02-16-2010, 15:41
+1 It all just makes the honest person more honest.


as well as turning honest people into criminals overnight without them knowing it.
It is amazing the .gov expects its citizens to be aware of every law made that would apply to them yet their own enforcement officials don't know the laws, court rulings vary and the same laws don't seem to apply to our elected officials part of them either...