Arfcom is melting down

[Ridge]

Over the latest entry in the Cavalry Arms affair...

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1003311

[BigBear]

Too bad... wonder if they would've sold me a full auto....



hehe.

[GreenScoutII]

I'll tell you what, if I had just one wish I knew the gun gods would grant for sure, I'd have the stupid friggin' BATF disbanded and it's senior people prosecuted for rampant violation of citizen's right to keep and bear arms.

[sabot_round]

That blows donkey!!

[cowboykjohnson]

o well![Beer]

[Marlin]

So, Does this make my Cav Arms lower in the 00110's worth more?

[WillysWagon]

So, Does this make my Cav Arms lower in the 00110's worth more?

I've got a 2 digit OD lower, just now getting around to doing something with it. It'll be my dedicated .22lr plinker. [Beer]

[Great-Kazoo]

If you think Arfcom is "melting Down" because of that thread
what would you say is happening over this thread, by a member who isn't even a Moderator, but seems to think he is or should be one.

http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20380

i dont see a melt down just a lot of folks not agreeing with one another. same as the obligatory bi-monthly post here relating to the not asked much question.
"Bill Of Sale" what say the hive mind?? post that comes up due to the OP not beaing able to use the search function and start another bs thread .
YMMV

[Ridge]

So, on to the next topic...Aimpoint, or EOTech?

[Irving]

Mention AAC on Arfcom and you'll be permabanned.

[Batteriesnare]

So, on to the next topic...Aimpoint, or EOTech?

Aimpoint.


'Nuff said.

[twitchyfinger]

Aimpoint.


'Nuff said.


EoTech

All the way.

[twitchyfinger]

AR or AK?

[Bang]

[al_g]

AR or AK?

[Bang] Well duh, everyone knows the right answer is FAL [Tooth]

[sniper7]

if you guys need a question answered just ask me and there will magically be the right answer. that is all you need to know...for now!

[twitchyfinger]

Well duh, everyone knows the right answer is FAL [Tooth]

[ROFL1][ROFL1] I knew that would be the next post!

Oh yes I forgot all about asking the "Grand master know it all"

Here's to you Sniper7
[Bow]

[Ridge]

FN FAL? More liek FN FAIL, amirite?

[jerrymrc]

FN FAL? More liek FN FAIL, amirite?

I think you are very wrong on that one.

[Great-Kazoo]

I think you are very wrong on that one.

the guy's from saudiaurora, have to cut them some slack, something about the drinking water.


can't we discuss something that does not divide the board like say............................................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..............................................

gay marriage or
abortion?
those are not hot button topics.

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stop pointing that gun in your avatar at me dag nabbit.......

[USMC88-93]

So, Does this make my Cav Arms lower in the 00110's worth more?
I have a blue lower number 017

[sniper7]

I have a blue lower number 017


wow, I bet that might be worth something!

but then again, you just never know. it will probably end up being worth maybe $45 bucks or so. to be on the safe side you should sell it to me for $85.
[Beer]

[Ridge]

DOJ's official statement:

http://www.justice.gov/usao/az/press_releases/2010/2010-026%28CavalryArms%29.pdf

Goddamnit.

As someone who stood by their side and preached their innocence to friends and others, I feel personally violated.

I put on my word that these were good people, unjustly targeted by the government. And now I find out that this all happened because they knowingly and repeatedly violated federal laws, I am just disgusted.

[sniper7]

I always thought their solid lowers were horrendously ugly and never bought anything from them.

[Marlin]

So do I..[Wink] (Don't have that one.)

[cowboykjohnson]

I always thought their solid lowers were horrendously ugly and never bought anything from them.
+1

[Ridge]

I found myself checking out the ones MGT had for sale at the gun shows, but there was always too much excess flash and they looked rather beat up from the get go for me...

[Great-Kazoo]

I found myself checking out the ones MGT had for sale at the gun shows, but there was always too much excess flash and they looked rather beat up from the get go for me...

because those were the lower priced, you need to clean the mold marks off ones. less labor from the mfg means lower price for you, sometimes.

[Ridge]

because those were the lower priced, you need to clean the mold marks off ones. less labor from the mfg means lower price for you, sometimes.

Does that mean I get special higher pricing next show?[ROFL1]

[Great-Kazoo]

Does that mean I get special higher pricing next show?[ROFL1]

sure. i can give you the lil buddy deal. but no tire kicking this time.

[Ridge]

Fair enough. Can always use more mags :)

[Graves]

http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2010/02/022210-la-firearms-manufacturer-owner-guilty-plea.html


Firearms Manufacturer and Its Owner Plead Guilty to Illegally Selling Firearms, Agree to Surrender License

PHOENIX, AZ – Cavalry Arms Corporation and its owner Shawn Michael Nealon, 38, of Mesa Arizona., pleaded guilty to the felony offense of Illegal Sale by a Federally Licensed Firearms Dealer to an Out-of-State Resident, in federal district court in Phoenix. Cavalry Arms Corporation and Nealon have also agreed to surrender their federal licenses to sell firearms.

"Selling to out-of-state residents has been illegal since 1968, we are enforcing federal firearms laws that have been on the books for over 40 years," said John A. Torres, Special Agent in Charge of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, Los Angeles Field Division. "Selling firearms illegally to out of state residents, is something ATF and our state and local partners will aggressively pursue, and although there are very few dealers that engage in criminal transactions, their impact on individuals and communities can be devastating."

Nealon maintained a federal firearms license (FFL) in his name as well as one under Cavalry Arms Corporation and both operated in the state of Arizona. The investigation conducted by ATF agents and inspectors spanned from Arizona to California and began in January 2008.

The investigation uncovered that on March 2, 2007, Nealon used his personal FFL to sell four firearms to an out-of-state resident. Nealon knew that at the time of the sale, the buyer resided in California. Over a 24 month period beginning in September 2005, Cavalry Arms’ FFL was used to sell 36 firearms to that same individual including AR-15 and AK-47 rifles and a variety of shotguns and handguns.

"Mr. Nealon has finally taken responsibility for his crime of illegally selling firearms to someone he knew was an out-of-state resident," said Dennis Burke, U.S. Attorney for the District of Arizona. "When firearms are sold illegally, they often end up being used in crimes of violence in the United States and other countries. This criminal activity will not be tolerated in the District of Arizona."

Nealon is scheduled to be sentenced on April 26,2010. A conviction for Illegal Sale by a Federally Licensed Dealer to an Out-of-State Resident carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison, a $250,000 fine or both.

Anyone with information about firearms trafficking or the illegal possession of firearms is encouraged to call ATF at 1-800-ATF-GUNS (800-283-4867). Callers can remain anonymous.

More information about ATF and its programs is available at www.atf.gov

[theGinsue]

Curious to see what his sentence will be...I guess we'll have to stay turned to find out.

[sniper7]

Sucks for him. It is sad ow he got caught though...they would not have known about those had they not try to get him before....just shows they will go through anything and everything to get you once your name is on their list.
hopefully he just gets a fine and probation.

[DD977GM2]

Arfcom can eat a dick. I'm so tired of their puffy chest hollier than thou attitude and then being hypocrits etc. I stoped paying into them for this very reason. More money to go towards RMGO!!!

[SA Friday]

Arfcom can eat a dick. I'm so tired of their puffy chest hollier than thou attitude and then being hypocrits etc. I stoped paying into them for this very reason. More money to go towards RMGO!!!
Tell us how you really feel, bro. Penting up all that emotion could cause bad things to happen.[Coffee]

[theGinsue]

Ginsue is grabbing his beer and pretzels off of the bar and hiding under the counter.

[Troublco]

Yeah, but I noticed that you grabbed Sniper's and my beer as well......