18 year old Glock 17 question

[Glock Shooter]

Greetings,

I have a Glock 17 purchased in 1992, I have over 10,000 rounds through it without a failure to fire, ever!! It has NEVER been taken down past Glock's basic cleaning instructions. I just purchased a new Glock 26 and just love it, 200 rounds and no problems.

My question is this: Should I bring my Glock 17 to a Master Glock Armorer to have it looked at? I know, if it ain't broken don't fix it, but 18 years seems to me to be time to have it serviced, thoughts? If the consensus is YES, do you have any suggestions on a good Glock Armorer near/around Boulder? At the very least I need the Trijicon's replaced as they lost their shine about 2 years ago.

[trlcavscout]

One good option would be sending it back to Glock, they will inspect, replace and update any parts needed even the sites for a fair price.

At 10k rounds I would reccomend replaceing the springs if it hasnt been done. That is about $15 and 5 minutes, you dont need an armorer it is really very simple. They reccomend replaceing the recoil spring every 5K I believe it is, but I would at least change the trigger coil spring also. And the sites you could have done anywhere. I dont know any armorers there but if you want info/pictures on how to DIY I can provide that.

In all reality that Glock will probably go another 100K before failure at least. If its a range gun I would leave it, if its a carry gun I would upgrade it.

[Irving]

I was also going to suggest at least going through it and changing the springs.

[newracer]

Jensen Arms in Loveland has several armores.

[cowboykjohnson]

Jensen Arms in Loveland has several armores.
+1 but a bunch of the stuff is really easy to do on your own.

[Troublco]

I haven't found anything, including stippling my G17, that I couldn't do myself. Glocks are really easy to work on. Excepting millwork, of course......

[SA Friday]

Watch a vid on youtube, strip it down and change the springs. Hang the slide upside down on a piece of wire, tap it with the side of a screwdriver. If it rings, there is no cracks in the slide. If it clunks, then send it into Glock because it has a crack in it. Check the rail inserts in the frame. If they are loose, send it into Glock for replacement. If you take it to someone and pay this, you are wasting your money. A small hammer and a brass punch is all it takes to change the rear sight. The front sight is changed with a cheap front sight wrench you can buy from any of the glock specialty internet sites.

I have a G34 with approximately 100,000 rounds through it and it still runs like new. 10,000 rounds is just getting settled in for a Glock.

[SA Friday]

I haven't found anything, including stippling my G17, that I couldn't do myself. Glocks are really easy to work on. Excepting millwork, of course......

It's done? That deserves a new thread with pics! Don't leave us hanging on the stippling job.

[Troublco]

Done except for the metal captive guide rod (Everybody was out of 'em when I was getting my parts. I'll get one soon) Okay, I'll get pics later and get a thread posted.

[Glock Shooter]

I decided to call Glock and see what they say. According to their 'technical department' I need to box it up and send it to them UPS with a letter requesting an "Inspecting Upgrade" and 6 weeks later they'll ship it back on them. I have a new G26 so I'll not be without an appropriate firearm while I'm waiting for my G17 to return. Thoughts?

[Jer]

I decided to call Glock and see what they say. According to their 'technical department' I need to box it up and send it to them UPS with a letter requesting an "Inspecting Upgrade" and 6 weeks later they'll ship it back on them. I have a new G26 so I'll not be without an appropriate firearm while I'm waiting for my G17 to return. Thoughts?

Sounds like they want to make a service fee to me.

[Irving]

Hit it and quit it.

[SA Friday]

They may change parts out for the sake of having the older parts off the market. For example, they might change the frame out to a Gen3 without warning you. I would ask then to contact you before swapping out major parts. The frame generation matters to some people. I actually prefer the Gen3 frame so when they had a program to swap out Gen 1 and 2s to 3s I jumped on it with my older G23. Others prefer the older frames. Internally, it won't matter really, but I would be leary of a frame swap.

[Glock Shooter]

Sounds like they want to make a service fee to me.

They said it's a 100% free service even if it needs parts.

[Jer]

They said it's a 100% free service even if it needs parts.

In that case go for it if you don't mind being w/o it. I would add a note to contact you before making any changes for approval though.

[Glock Shooter]

In that case go for it if you don't mind being w/o it. I would add a note to contact you before making any changes for approval though.

Thanks for the suggestions. Just wondering, should I be concerned if they want to exchange the frame?

[Jer]

Thanks for the suggestions. Just wondering, should I be concerned if they want to exchange the frame?

Depends on if you prefer that style frame or not. If you like the newer style better and they want to change it out then you get a free upgrade. If you like that style you would want them to keep that version which would be an example of the reason for having them contact you prior to making any changes. That way you can tell them you want to keep that frame. Just do some research and go to a store to feel the differences to decide what you like.

[SA Friday]

Thanks for the suggestions. Just wondering, should I be concerned if they want to exchange the frame?
If they decide they want to change out the the frame or slide, I suspect they will want to swap the gun outright for a 3 gen G17. If you don't mind the difference from the one you have to a 3 gen, then no, I wouldn't be concerned at all. If the slide is good and the frame is good, I suspect they will swap out springs check the minor parts, barrel and block and swap as needed, and then send it back.

Talk to them about it. They are very customer oriented.

[pfbz]

I was the original owner on a ~1990 Glock G23. Last year I sent it back to Glock in GA along with all my magazines for a service and several internal parts upgrades. There was no cost for the service. The recoil spring was one of the parts upgraded, so you'll probably get a new one for free.

I opted to have them install Glock night sights for $57 at the time, and had them install an extended slide release, no charge.

Other than being pretty slow in turning it around (it was about six weeks), it was nice to get a full once-over and upgraded parts at no cost.

They retained the original frame, slide, and barrel. I highly doubt they will change any of that out on yours, especially without asking first.

A local armorer should also be able to do the upgrades as well...

There are also some other ways of shipping the gun other than UPS, just don't list it as a firearm on the shipping manifest.

[FireMoth]

I'll have to get some pictures to illustrate, but there are a few things to look at on a well used glock that you can check yourself.

At 10k Rnds you should probably be on at least your second set of recoil and striker springs, if not more. If you havent ever replaced them, do so.

Extractor and safety plunger springs are fine if they function. noi malfunctions, no worry.

The most significant part to look at is the striker. Broken striker tips are obvious, but safety engagement takes a little examination to determine.

On the right ride of the striker, as it is pointed away from you is a cut on the front square portion of the striker body. The cut out is semi circular, and has a 90 degree shelf for the safety plunger to stop against.

If the shelf is peened, or worn over, it can fail the drop safety test. some wear is acceptable, but tif the shelf has become a ramp, it will bipass the safety plunger by simply pushing it out of the way.

Typically, if the striker is peened over, so is the safety plunger. It looks like a bar bell, with one end cupped to accept the safety spring. On the inside edge of the cupped, or top end, the edge should be a 90 degree shelf. If it is beveled over it would be prudent to replace.

Its fairly common for some amount of wear to appear on these parts, and determining if they need replacement can be difficult. If you are unsure, you can do some drop tests to check.

Feild strip your glock, and take the slide assembly in your hand, and turn it upside down.
if it is not already, pull the striker gently to the rear 9there isnt much spring tension at this point) untill the safety plunger pops up. When the striker is engaged on the safety plunger the firing pin tip is not visible. When it is past the plunger, the striker sticks through the hole in the bolt face.

If the plunger doesnt pop up when the striker is withdrawn, it fails the test. If it does, depress the plunger with your hand, and make sure the striker can be easily moved forward.
Now, withdraw the striker once more, and try to press it forward without depressign the plunger. if it can be pushed passed, both striker and plunger should be replaced.
Press hard, since this is the primary safety. It should not bypass without the plunger being dpressed, at all.

If the sriker and plunger pass all the tests, but look significantly worn, the prudent thing to do is replace them, but keep the original parts as spares.

These wear points, in my experience, require more attention where titanium parts have been used. they just seem to gall and bend easier than factory.

One nice thign aobut sending the pistol back, however, is that glock wil upgrade your extractor to the 'loaded chamber indicator' style for free if it isnt already that type.

[FireMoth]

I'll have to get some pictures to illustrate, but there are a few things to look at on a well used glock that you can check yourself.

At 10k Rnds you should probably be on at least your second set of recoil and striker springs, if not more. If you havent ever replaced them, do so.

Extractor and safety plunger springs are fine if they function. noi malfunctions, no worry.

The most significant part to look at is the striker. Broken striker tips are obvious, but safety engagement takes a little examination to determine.

On the right ride of the striker, as it is pointed away from you is a cut on the front square portion of the striker body. The cut out is semi circular, and has a 90 degree shelf for the safety plunger to stop against.

If the shelf is peened, or worn over, it can fail the drop safety test. some wear is acceptable, but tif the shelf has become a ramp, it will bipass the safety plunger by simply pushing it out of the way.

Typically, if the striker is peened over, so is the safety plunger. It looks like a bar bell, with one end cupped to accept the safety spring. On the inside edge of the cupped, or top end, the edge should be a 90 degree shelf. If it is beveled over it would be prudent to replace.

Its fairly common for some amount of wear to appear on these parts, and determining if they need replacement can be difficult. If you are unsure, you can do some drop tests to check.

Feild strip your glock, and take the slide assembly in your hand, and turn it upside down.
if it is not already, pull the striker gently to the rear 9there isnt much spring tension at this point) untill the safety plunger pops up. When the striker is engaged on the safety plunger the firing pin tip is not visible. When it is past the plunger, the striker sticks through the hole in the bolt face.

If the plunger doesnt pop up when the striker is withdrawn, it fails the test. If it does, depress the plunger with your hand, and make sure the striker can be easily moved forward.
Now, withdraw the striker once more, and try to press it forward without depressign the plunger. if it can be pushed passed, both striker and plunger should be replaced.
Press hard, since this is the primary safety. It should not bypass without the plunger being dpressed, at all.

If the sriker and plunger pass all the tests, but look significantly worn, the prudent thing to do is replace them, but keep the original parts as spares.

[Glock Shooter]

I sent it off to Glock 2 weeks ago. Asked that they contact me before any "major" upgrades. Will let you know how it all turns out.

[Great-Kazoo]

i could have upgraded it locally, ok in state.

[Glock Shooter]

Just got a call from a technician at Glock. They're replacing almost everything inside the pistol, but not the frame or the slide. He said they'd only replace the frame or slide if they were damaged, but they're in perfect working order. They are going to replace the long since dull trijicon night sights for $72, now that's a deal. Should have it back in a few weeks.

[Glock Shooter]

just noticed they charged my card....should be back in a few days...excited

[Glock Shooter]

Just got her back yesterday via Fed Ex. She doesn't get put in the "quick safe" until I take her to the range. Painless process, $74 for new Trijicon's installed, can't complain.

[lead_magnet]

Thanks for posting this, just when I didn't think I could love glock anymore than I allready do...

[Glock Shooter]

I'll call them tomorrow, but I was wondering today if they gave her a test fire before returning her to me.