Colorado Stands Alone (Idiots)

[ronaldrwl]

The Colorado legislation, known as HB 10-1193 in an attempt to collect more taxes just killed all the Colorado-based Amazon Associate businesses. I got the email this morning.


“We are writing from the Amazon Associates Program to inform you that the Colorado government recently enacted a law to impose sales tax regulations on online retailers. The regulations are burdensome and no other state has similar rules.”
…
“Regrettably, as a result of the new law, we have decided to stop advertising through Associates based in Colorado.”
…


Another example of raising taxes or adding new taxes has the effect of reducing taxes collected. Now Colorado is the only state where you can't collect referral's from Amazon. It was only a small part of my business but it's gone now.

I'm wondering if Ritter signed this before or after he banged his head.

[newracer]

That aspect of the law never occurred to me. Sorry to hear you will be loosing business.

[Troublco]

Another wonderful bit of fallout from Ritter's well-thought-out, effective campaign to seperate all of us peons from our money. And piss us off in the process.

[cowboykjohnson]

Another wonderful bit of fallout from Ritter's well-thought-out, effective campaign to seperate all of us peons from our money. And piss us off in the process.
+1 he needs to wreck his bike a little harder next time.

[Graves]

I'd say that dumb prick should have wrecked it much harder.

[cowboykjohnson]

[Abused]

[Daniel_187]

So is this all online retailers. So if I ordered some ammo from Cabelas.com is it taxed?

[M2MG]

So is this all online retailers. So if I ordered some ammo from Cabelas.com is it taxed?


Yes

M2MG

[Irving]

Well, there goes most of the advantage of an internet ordered Russian bride....


Is there a difference between mail ordering something and internet? Is there already a tax for mail order stuff? What if you just call the company and order like that?

[jdr749]

I just bought a upper receiver online last week and they (Stag) did not charge me tax. I wonder if I will be taxed at some point.[Help]

[funkfool]

There is a box on the IRS form for online purchases...
What IS the tax rate for mail order brides?

[cowboykjohnson]

3.9% APR, then after she is payed off there is the tax the bride gets which is all your stuff and money when she leaves back to her country.

[ronaldrwl]

There used to be a internet tax only if the business had an outlet in that state. At least that's the way it was supposed to work. Big company's always charged internet tax when they had a store in your state.

[Circuits]

Is there a difference between mail ordering something and internet? Is there already a tax for mail order stuff? What if you just call the company and order like that?

There is already a tax on mail order and internet purchases, called the "Use Tax", which every Colorado taxpayer is liable to pay on items they purchased (by any means) from out of state, on which no sales tax was charged. Colorado Dept. of Revenue provides an online form for you to self-report your purchases, fill out the return, and remit your use tax payment.

The problem has always been one of enforcement... in the past it's been held that a state cannot force persons or businesses outside of their borders to act as tax collection agents, or even taxable sales reporters, so it's been entirely up to each taxpayer to report their out-of-state purchases, file the use tax return, and pay the use tax owed.

One big change is that regardless of where the order is taken/processed, if a business has a physical presence in a state/city, they are now forced to collect and remit sales tax on sales to residents of that taxing area...

This colorado bill is attempting to leverage the "physical presence" exception, by applying it to partner businesses, etc - so to avoid having to collect and remit colorado sales tax, Amazon is severing its partnerships with businesses having a physical presence in colorado.

[Hannu]

Allright, understand now the problem with companies that have had retailers in Colorado, like Amazon.
But, what about for example Montana Gold bullets or other company that has not retailer(s) in CO ?

[ronaldrwl]

Allright, understand now the problem with companies that have had retailers in Colorado, like Amazon.
But, what about for example Montana Gold bullets or other company that has not retailer(s) in CO ?

I guess they now have to charge tax. Don't know how colorado is going to collect. For my colorado company, I guess I have to start charging tax.

[Daniel_187]

Fuck bitching fuck voting when do we take to ams I have had enough

[Zundfolge]

The good thing about this is that it'll make it just a bit harder for Hickenduffus to get elected.

I've already decided if Hick wins and the dems are still in control of the legislature after this next election I'll be looking to leave Colofornia.

[ronaldrwl]

The good thing about this is that it'll make it just a bit harder for Hickenduffus to get elected.

I've already decided if Hick wins and the dems are still in control of the legislature after this next election I'll be looking to leave Colofornia.

My wife and I have joked in the past that someday, when the great state of Texas leaves the union, we would be moving there. Seems less of a joke these days.

[Zundfolge]

I like the idea of Texas ... but the humidity usually disabuses me of that notion.

Also I figure if Texas ever leaves the union, you better be a resident BEFORE that day ... 'cause if I was Texas I wouldn't let no damn 'mericans or messicans cross my border :p

[Batteriesnare]

I'd say that dumb prick should have wrecked it much harder.

Yes.

[jdr749]

West texas has a dry climate and plenty of places to hunt. I fyour in to lond distance shooting, that too!
I like the idea of Texas ... but the humidity usually disabuses me of that notion.

Also I figure if Texas ever leaves the union, you better be a resident BEFORE that day ... 'cause if I was Texas I wouldn't let no damn 'mericans or messicans cross my border :p

[sabot_round]

I think that I'm gonna regret PCS'ing there after all. On the other hand, I'm hoping that the gov realizes that they have made a mistake and repeal the law.

[Troublco]

I'd say that dumb prick should have wrecked it much harder.

Say, under a rolling cement truck.......

[Zundfolge]

West texas has a dry climate and plenty of places to hunt. I fyour in to lond distance shooting, that too!

True ... however I moved from Kansas to get away from the boring flatlands and come to the mountains.

No mountains in West Texas (or for that matter REAL mountains in East Texas).

[Driftwood]

Any other updates on this?

I found this one:

http://econsultancy.com/blog/6176-the-fight-against-colorado-s-internet-tax-law-goes-to-court

Apparently, this DMA is filing suit against the CO law in Federal court.

Thoughts?

[funkfool]

The Direct Marketing Association (DMA) is hoping that 10-1193 will be short-lived. Yesterday, it filed suit (http://www.the-dma.org/cgi/dispannouncements?article=1465) in federal court. It believes that the Colorado law must be struck down because it:



Discriminates against interstate commerce;
Exceeds the permissible scope of state regulatory authority over out-of-state companies;
Violates the right to privacy of Colorado consumers;
Infringes upon the free speech and due process rights of both consumers and retailers; and
Exposes confidential consumer information to the risk of unauthorized disclosure.Jerry Cerasale, the DMA's SVP of Government Affairs stated, "The new law and the regulations implementing it are an unconstitutional and blatant violation of Colorado consumers’ privacy."


Sounds pretty straight forward and logical to me....
Oh, wait... were dealing with the gov....
My mistake.
[Bang]

[DOC]

I think that the buyer is responsible for paying the government for stuff you buy. I don't think the seller collects it so don't pay it either.
After a recent court case where the judge disregarded 200 years of contract law and screwed me over I don't have any faith in the Colorado Court System.
I'm getting to the point of getting a stick and chasing all the butt bashing Commieforyains hippys to the state line.