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M2MG
03-09-2010, 10:33
This comes from infowars.com. But read the PDF file of the bill written by who else but Sen. John McCain and Lieberman.

http://my.auburnjournal.com/detail/144009.html
M2MG
Batteriesnare
03-09-2010, 10:37
WTF? That's all I have here, this is so blatantly bullshit it's unbelievable.
Mtn.man
03-09-2010, 10:40
More of our rights and freedoms are stolen every year, yet the people smile and say it's for the good of everyone.

Man we are fuked....
trlcavscout
03-09-2010, 10:56
WTF? That's all I have here, this is so blatantly bullshit it's unbelievable.


More of our rights and freedoms are stolen every year, yet the people smile and say it's for the good of everyone.

Man we are fuked....

Oh man you guys are on the list for sure!

All hail the mosiah [ROFL1]
Zundfolge
03-09-2010, 10:59
I have a hard time getting all worked up over something on Infowars ... a LOT of hyperbole and BS there.


After reading the text of the bill, it doesn't look to me like "dissenters" will be detained as "Enemy Belligerents" ... you have to be a member of Al Queda or otherwise engaged in actual terrorism (either directly or by providing material support for) in order to cross that line into "Enemy Belligerent" territory.

This bill looks like its simply designed to make sure anyone arrested for terrorism ends up in military custody and not in a civilian police custody.

But it was penned by McCain and Leiberman ... so that alone makes it suspect in my book.
Batteriesnare
03-09-2010, 11:00
This bill looks like its simply designed to make sure anyone arrested for terrorism ends up in military custody and not in a civilian police custody.


And it will surely stop there![Bang]
Bailey Guns
03-09-2010, 11:13
While I would agree there is a possibility this might be abused (but that's pretty much true of any law), overall I don't see a big problem with it. As a matter of fact I think it's a pretty fair effort by McCain to deal with the issue of civilian vs military trials for terrorists. It pretty much defines who is and who isn't going to be targeted.

To be fair, I only read the bill. I didn't read the InfoWars.com article.

OUCH! I hate when I have to say something positive about John McCain.
ronaldrwl
03-09-2010, 11:32
They will bend and twist the laws to fit their needs. Did you listen to the speach by Peter Schiff on how congress has ssttrreettcchheedd the commerce clause:
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=7n2m-X7OIuY
Zundfolge
03-09-2010, 11:49
To be honest I'd rather give foreign terrorists complete constitutional rights (including Miranda, a free lawyer, right to confront your accuser and see the evidence against you, etc) in exchange for complete constitutional rights for US Citizens (which would include permit-free CCW everywhere in the country, including on airplanes).

Of course that doesn't mean that the military can't interrogate them first ... even if it means the info gleaned from enhanced interrogation isn't admissible in the trial against them.
KevDen2005
03-09-2010, 12:22
I am sure it was meant for the "Good of the People." I just love how we are now giving terrorist a trial but if you are a 'domestic terrorist' you get nothing of your rights and freedoms.

Excellent
sniper7
03-09-2010, 13:25
More of our rights and freedoms are stolen every year, yet the people smile and say it's for the good of everyone.

Man we are fuked....


exactly.
cowboykjohnson
03-09-2010, 13:47
I am sure it was meant for the "Good of the People." I just love how we are now giving terrorist a trial but if you are a 'domestic terrorist' you get nothing of your rights and freedoms.

Excellent
It's the American way![Rant1]
TFOGGER
03-09-2010, 14:35
Easy enough to use the Patriot Act to classify a dissenter as a possible terrorist...with a warrantless wiretap...and suspend their constitutional rights. Why do they need another law to cover their butts, when most people(even attorneys) don't have a clue what is actually in the Patriot Act? I've read only a portion of it, but it's a scary muddytrucker.....http://www.cosportbikeclub.org/forums/images/smilies/shocked.gif
cowboykjohnson
03-09-2010, 14:39
But with such an American name it has to be good!
Mtn.man
03-09-2010, 14:58
Personally I am ready for a good waterboarding.



I saw Nothing, nothing.
Batteriesnare
03-09-2010, 17:05
But with such an American name it has to be good!

Sure.....[Luck]
KevDen2005
03-09-2010, 20:08
Easy enough to use the Patriot Act to classify a dissenter as a possible terrorist...with a warrantless wiretap...and suspend their constitutional rights. Why do they need another law to cover their butts, when most people(even attorneys) don't have a clue what is actually in the Patriot Act? I've read only a portion of it, but it's a scary muddytrucker.....http://www.cosportbikeclub.org/forums/images/smilies/shocked.gif


I am glad I read your whole post because I almost mentioned that no one has a clue what's in the Patriot Act...if they do they don't know what it means
Troublco
03-09-2010, 20:16
Welcome one and all to the United Socialist States of America, B. Obama, Proprietor.

General Manager - Rahm Emanuel

We'd like to thank Lenin, Stalin, Ghengis Khan, Alec Baldwin, Sean Penn, and the entire Democratic Party for their support.
KevDen2005
03-10-2010, 00:12
But with such an American name it has to be good!


+1[ROFL1]
KevDen2005
03-10-2010, 00:13
Personally I am ready for a good waterboarding.



I saw Nothing, nothing.


You can rest assured that i also did not see whatever I saw[NoEvil]