View Full Version : Army drops bayonets, busts abs in training revamp
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_new_basic_training
"Most of these soldiers have never been in a fistfight or any kind of a physical confrontation. They are stunned when they get smacked in the face," said Capt. Scott Sewell, overseeing almost 190 trainees in their third week of training. "We are trying to get them to act, to think like warriors."
Birddog1911
03-16-2010, 08:15
Time to starting hitting recruits again![Kick1][Kick3][Kick2][Slap][Stick]
That's it... I'm going to find some blasted way to drop this weight and I'm joining the military... I love obstacles courses and piguil sticks and.....
*Read with sarcasism, but I am serious. lol.
Hmmm,, I kind of considered the bayonet "Warrior" like.. I prefered it to The side straddle hop myself..
Of course, I was in an Armor unit that considered itself "The Bayonet Brigrade"... Never really was able to figure that one out..
Looks like a good time to me!
Troublco
03-16-2010, 09:09
Hmmm,, I kind of considered the bayonet "Warrior" like.. I prefered it to The side straddle hop myself..
Of course, I was in an Armor unit that considered itself "The Bayonet Brigrade"... Never really was able to figure that one out..
Yeah.....how do you mount a bayonet to a tank? And more importantly, how do you do a bayonet charge that way?
how do you mount a bayonet to a tank?
*Bill and Ted voice*
DUUUUUUUUUDE!!!! Come on. You use DUCT (DUCK) TAPE!!!!
[ROFL3]
68Charger
03-16-2010, 09:23
"Another aim is to toughen recruits from a more obese and sedentary generation, trainers said."
and to dispel what they learned playing Halo?
Troublco
03-16-2010, 09:27
*Bill and Ted voice*
DUUUUUUUUUDE!!!! Come on. You use DUCT (DUCK) TAPE!!!!
[ROFL3]
(Authoritative, lecture type voice)
BigBear, we military folks call that "Speed Tape" or "200 MPH tape". Please work on proper terminology. You know how military folks are big on that.......
[ROFL1]
Yeah.....how do you mount a bayonet to a tank? And more importantly, how do you do a bayonet charge that way?
These were among the many questions that plauged my mind..
Thank God for Alcohol at the time.....
I suppose if one put a lug on the main gun,,,, Go from there I guess..
(Authoritative, lecture type voice)
BigBear, we military folks call that "Speed Tape" or "200 MPH tape". Please work on proper terminology. You know how military folks are big on that.......
[ROFL1]
speed tape works are more than 200 MPH! trust me![Coffee]
KevDen2005
03-16-2010, 09:56
speed tape works are more than 200 MPH! trust me![Coffee]
Velcro=Hook/Pile Tape
Rubber Bands=Rubber Retention Bands
Parachute cord=Nylon Cord #550
Duct Tape=100 MPH Tape/90 MPH Tape (Whatever you do, don't call it green duct tape, learned that one the hard way)
What I really have to snicker about in retrospect is the Armor unit was all about the Bayonet.. I get to the 101st, light Infantry, and there just didn't seem to be the same enthusiasm about it..
ChadAmberg
03-16-2010, 10:02
(Authoritative, lecture type voice)
BigBear, we military folks call that "Speed Tape" or "200 MPH tape". Please work on proper terminology. You know how military folks are big on that.......
[ROFL1]
We used it to emergency repair the radome (condom tip shaped nose) on a C-130 before, so 200mph is a little slow.
Troublco
03-16-2010, 10:07
speed tape works are more than 200 MPH! trust me![Coffee]
Velcro=Hook/Pile Tape
Rubber Bands=Rubber Retention Bands
Parachute cord=Nylon Cord #550
Duct Tape=100 MPH Tape/90 MPH Tape (Whatever you do, don't call it green duct tape, learned that one the hard way)
We used it to emergency repair the radome (condom tip shaped nose) on a C-130 before, so 200mph is a little slow.
Which all leads us back to Speed Tape!
I've heard all sorts of stories. And if you have a roll of this, a roll of safety wire, and some double bubble (2 part epoxy usually used in fuel cells or structural repairs) you can do ANYTHING!!!
trlcavscout
03-16-2010, 10:14
We did one day of bayonet and one day of hand to hand at FT. Knox, I do have to say the bayonet course was one of the funnest days there, BUTT STROKE TO THE HEAD!
(Authoritative, lecture type voice)
BigBear, we military folks call that "Speed Tape" or "200 MPH tape". Please work on proper terminology. You know how military folks are big on that.......
[ROFL1]
Darn... can't seem to get anything right lately... [Bang]
Guess I'll go [M2] and then [Coffee] and then[Bed].
Troublco
03-16-2010, 10:32
Darn... can't seem to get anything right lately... [Bang]
Guess I'll go [M2] and then [Coffee] and then[Bed].
Heck, I'd love to [M2] and then [Coffee] and then[Bed].
Although I'll settle for [Beer]!
Darn... can't seem to get anything right lately... [Bang]
Guess I'll go [M2] and then [Coffee] and then[Bed].
that is exactly my plan some time this week as long as the weather is okay
I went Saturday and the weather was wonderful. Can't wait till Summer time.
funkfool
03-16-2010, 11:12
http://tjic.com/archive/drive_me_closer_i_want_to_hit_them_with_my_sword.p ng
Troublco
03-16-2010, 11:24
http://tjic.com/archive/drive_me_closer_i_want_to_hit_them_with_my_sword.p ng
Marlin! Look! It's the Dealer Tank!!! [ROFL1]
Yep,, If I had photoshop on this computer......
"Another aim is to toughen recruits from a more obese and sedentary generation, trainers said."
and to dispel what they learned playing Halo?
You mean bunny-hopping doesn't work in real life?
and to dispel what they learned playing Halo?
Oh hell no y0!!1! Dual wield FTW!!
Halo armchair warroirs! HAHA..
I'm L33T HAXOR and I bunny hopped, dolphin dived, and knifed you from 50 yrds away!! Don't make me break out my super ninja sniping pistol!!!
BANG! HEADSHOT!!!
HAHAHAHAA.
68Charger
03-16-2010, 12:36
does Tea-bagging your opponent after beating them violate don't-ask/don't-tell?
or does that even matter any more to the current administration?
cowboykjohnson
03-16-2010, 12:42
does Tea-bagging your opponent after beating them violate don't-ask/don't-tell?
or does that even matter any more to the current administration?
It doesn't violate don't ask don't tell but it is considered torture by the current Admin.
theGinsue
03-16-2010, 13:44
What? No more bayonet training?
So, what do I do with this now?:
http://www.ammoland.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/laserlyte-pistol-bayonet.jpg
Troublco
03-16-2010, 13:53
What? No more bayonet training?
So, what do I do with this now?:
http://www.ammoland.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/laserlyte-pistol-bayonet.jpg
FAIL
68Charger
03-16-2010, 14:04
What? No more bayonet training?
So, what do I do with this now?:
http://www.ammoland.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/laserlyte-pistol-bayonet.jpg
use it to remove the dirt from under your fingernails...
I still think that those pistol bayonets look cool. More useful than a laser on a long range rifle too.
I'm not trying to justify the usefulness of a a pistol bayonet.
68Charger
03-16-2010, 14:14
I still think that those pistol bayonets look cool. More useful than a laser on a long range rifle too.
I'm not trying to justify the usefulness of a a pistol bayonet.
Then just what ARE you trying to justify?
funkfool
03-16-2010, 14:53
Then just what ARE you trying to justify?
Well... it IS on a Taurus semi-auto...
I read about this on the Army Times website a few weeks ago. When I went through basic, I always thought the bayonet training was possibly a little out dated, and a bit of a novelty... BUT that was almost 10 years ago, I was a 'lil young/dumb! I realize now how much it was GOOD for the warrior spirit, and helped build that mentality. Honestly, I know it adds a little length to the end of your weapon, but I wouldn't mind having a bayonet attached when clearing rooms! I would expect the soldiers around me to be trained how to use it also!
If they want to concentrate more on the PT side of things a little more, they should extend basic another week or two to allow the extra time to smoke those recruits into shape! Cardio and core strength exercises is going to be very beneficial to keeping these soldiers fit and combat ready, but they also need to concentrate on the combat mindset with things like the bayonet course, to truly make these soldiers combat effective!
It raises my curiosity why they have not adopted classroom training in the first few weeks on how to keep the right combat mindset, and covered the psychological and physical aspects of what is going to happen to your body and mind in combat (insert excerpts from Col. Grossman...). It would make for a better prepared soldier that would be more combat effective when TSHTF and they are fighting for the life of their buddies and themselves!
I recommend to all new recruits in the Army to do a little research for yourself on these things to better prepare you for the realities of a force on force encounter. It will benefit you in the long run! Take some extra classes on hand to hand combat, preferably from somebody with military or police experience. Read up on the combat mindset and what you need to believe to come out on top. You will be a much better soldier for it!
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