View Full Version : Obama Care will it hurt the economy?
low drag
03-24-2010, 06:02
I think Obama care will crush our economy however I will gladly eat crow if it does not. I'm trying to get my friends and coworkers to save their receipts. Keep a power bill, grocery receipt and gas receipt. Note the cost of a unit of electricity and gas, a gallon of milk along with other basic items and gasoline. I'm putting it in my income tax folders so I can find them to compare against receipts a year or two from now. If I'm not paying considerably more for all those basic items I'll gladly eat crow.
Colorado Osprey
03-24-2010, 07:51
You bet its gonna hurt the economy and make unemployment worse too.
Companies that didn't provide health care who were keeping some employees on to streamline efficiencey, but weren't essential; these employees are at great risk of loosing their jobs. Unfortunately many of the employees don't even know they fall into that catagory!
How about all those companies that keep employees at 36 hours so they didn't have to pay beni's. I bet a lot of those loose their jobs as well if they are required to now provide health insurance for them too!
Any change in employment numbers will hurt the economy.
Troublco
03-24-2010, 08:43
I see a number of small businesses that have just been hanging on through this economy folding unless the economy comes back in a big way, which I doubt will happen very soon.
Pistol Packing Preacher
03-24-2010, 08:55
I hear crow meat is cheap...
Pass the bowl...
[Coffee]
Does the bill say anything about companies being required to pay for employees health care?
ronaldrwl
03-24-2010, 10:28
Does the bill say anything about companies being required to pay for employees health care?
I thought that was the good part? Business won't have to pay for health care. The governement will.
Troublco
03-24-2010, 10:35
I thought that was the good part? Business won't have to pay for health care. The governement will.
Okay......and where does the Government get its money?
Taxes.
Or if you live in Colorado, I guess they call them "Fees" now.
Batteriesnare
03-24-2010, 10:38
Okay......and where does the Government get its money?
Taxes.
Or if you live in Colorado, I guess they call them "Fees" now.
Yup.[Bang]
Zundfolge
03-24-2010, 10:45
There is no such thing as a free lunch.
The cost of this healthcare law is going to be severe. Once the debt and deficits pile up to the point where the US looses its AAA credit rating our economy WILL collapse.
In all seriousness, this new law will likely bring America to the same condition as Germany in the late 1920s ... if we're lucky.
Chances are if America gets too weak we'll end up at war with the Chinese or Russians ... or we'll end up their slaves.
Obama's goal is to destroy America. I fear he has laid enough ground work that he will succeed regardless of the elections in November and 2012.
Some here will poo-poo what I've said as paranoid hyperbole. I hope you're right, but I doubt you are. :(
Maybe we'll get lucky and Christ will return before things get too bad ... that or we'll be invaded by aliens (that always seems to bring folk together)
Maybe we'll get lucky and Christ will return before things get too bad ...
Trade me a gun now, and when the rapture happens I promise to come rescue your pets (and your other guns) to keep them safe in the lawless world to come.
[LOL]H.
be prepared for the worst at this point.
they said immediately that all insurance companies are to allow parents insurance to covered children up the the age of 26. that is fucking insane...if you are 26 and can't have a job with some kind of health insurance or have the priority to buy yourself some then you really don't need it.
Now the burden will be on the parents even longer and the insurance companies aren't just going to bow down and eat the extra cost, it will get passed on to the employers and the employees...basically me and you and the rest of the hard working world will be paying for the fuck ups.
Zundfolge
03-24-2010, 11:10
Trade me a gun now, and when the rapture happens I promise to come rescue your pets (and your other guns) to keep them safe in the lawless world to come.
[LOL]H.
But what will you do when the aliens come?
funkfool
03-24-2010, 11:12
I think Obama care will crush our economy however I will gladly eat crow if it does not. I'm trying to get my friends and coworkers to save their receipts. Keep a power bill, grocery receipt and gas receipt. Note the cost of a unit of electricity and gas, a gallon of milk along with other basic items and gasoline. I'm putting it in my income tax folders so I can find them to compare against receipts a year or two from now. If I'm not paying considerably more for all those basic items I'll gladly eat crow.
I don't think you'll have to eat crow...
Unless that is all there is... thanks to complete economic mismanagement!
[Rant2]
Start a list here.
(Colorado Springs)
Milk 2.19 gal (generic)
Sugar 1.88 4lb (Kroger value)
Flour 1.49 5lb (Gold Medal)
Eggs .88¢ 1 doz (kroger)
Coke Cola 3.49 12 pk
Regular Gas 2.539
BTW: When it deos hurt the economy (irreparably IMHO)... ask yourself this:
Are they incompetent and stupid (by botching the job) or smart and sly (by achieving a desired result)
"All warfare is based on deception."
"The spot where we intend to fight must not be made known;
for then the enemy will have to prepare against a possible attack
at several different points; and his forces being thus distributed
in many directions, the numbers we shall have to face at any
given point will be proportionately few."
SunTzu - The Art of War
ronaldrwl
03-24-2010, 11:12
Okay......and where does the Government get its money?
Taxes.
Or if you live in Colorado, I guess they call them "Fees" now.
I think one of the moderators has a saying, something like:
Sarcasm – Learn it!
Troublco
03-24-2010, 11:16
I think one of the moderators has a saying, something like:
Sarcasm – Learn it!
Uh huh. He usually does something in his post to indicate sarcasm.
And that would be Marlin.
funkfool
03-24-2010, 11:18
Marlin (the wise):
Sarcasm, Learn it, Know it, Live it....
funkfool
03-24-2010, 11:21
Shoot - I forgot the most important staple:
BEER!
7.99 (Blue Moon)- 9.99 (Belhaven Scottish Ale) per 6pk
15.99 20 pk Coors bottles.
Troublco
03-24-2010, 11:25
Marlin (the wise):
Oh man, I'm going to have to put my laptop up on a shelf to keep it out of all the bull-fu here.........[ROFL1]
funkfool
03-24-2010, 11:38
Oh man, I'm going to have to put my laptop up on a shelf to keep it out of all the bull-fu here.........[ROFL1]
RE: "Marlin (the wise): "
Like I said:
Sarcasm, Learn it, Know it, Live it....
[ROFL2][ROFL3][LOL]
But what will you do when the aliens come?
I'll pretend to make a really good pet while I learn their weapons. [ROFL2]
FYI on the price tracking, you don't really have to do that work yourself...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_price_index
http://www.bls.gov/CPI/
H.
FYI on the price tracking, you don't really have to do that work yourself...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_price_index
http://www.bls.gov/CPI/
H.
everything is on wiki!
everything is on wiki!
It feels like there could be an opening for some sort of mom joke here. :-D
It feels like there could be an opening for some sort of mom joke here. :-D
Good call, I'll look one up on Wiki.
Good call, I'll look one up on Wiki.
I figured you would have at least a 10kb word document of those saved on your computer for fast reference!
I can't even imagine how many photobucket accounts you have for all your photos and .gif files![ROFL1]
I only have one photo like that on photobucket (and it was because someone on here uploaded it from their hard drive). Otherwise, I just hot link everything from where ever it is hosted.
Also, "Your mom" jokes are pretty much at the bottom of the barrel (with dead baby jokes) except for a select few.
haha... You took it too literal. I was more on the path of something to the effect of...
"Yah, even your mom is on wiki....amongst other sites.... or my bed...." etc etc...
But true, I am sure wiki has general mom jokes
ronaldrwl
03-24-2010, 14:52
haha... You took it too literal. I was more on the path of something to the effect of...
"Yah, even your mom is on wiki....amongst other sites.... or my bed...." etc etc...
But true, I am sure wiki has general mom jokes
You've gone to far paper hunter
I know, that was the joke. I knew exactly what you meant.
You've gone to far paper hunter
Sorry... My sense of humor hardly has boundaries. I've even thrown myself and my mom in as the punch line of jokes before. Doesn't bother me if others laugh at my expense. That would actually sum up most of my childhood.
Sorry... My sense of humor hardly has boundaries. I've even thrown myself and my mom in as the punch line of jokes before. Doesn't bother me if others laugh at my expense. That would actually sum up most of my childhood.
There ain't enough room in here for the both of us...
[Beer]
There ain't enough room in here for the both of us...
[Beer]Maybe we should get a room?
[ROFL1][ROFL1][ROFL1]
funkfool
03-24-2010, 15:30
Maybe we should get a room?
[ROFL1][ROFL1][ROFL1]
Motel 6 (http://www.motel6.com/reservations/motel_detail.aspx?num=0035&NOA=&aYr=&aMo=&aDa=&dYr=&dMo=&dDa=&CP=&TA=) will leave the light on for you...[LOL]
ronaldrwl
03-24-2010, 15:41
See how things degenerate
Why did the man no legs get an "F" in debate class?
Because his argument was invalid!
I made that up yesterday.
Troublco
03-24-2010, 15:47
Sounds like somebody (somebodies?) have a little cabin fever....
or want to!![ROFL1]
a cabin would be an upgrade from this h3ll hole. :-)
funkfool
03-24-2010, 16:30
degenerate
I resemble that remark.
Troublco
03-24-2010, 18:48
I resemble that remark.
We know.
low drag
03-24-2010, 19:02
I don't think you'll have to eat crow...
Unless that is all there is... thanks to complete economic mismanagement!
[Rant2]
Start a list here.
(Colorado Springs)
Milk 2.19 gal (generic)
Sugar 1.88 4lb (Kroger value)
Flour 1.49 5lb (Gold Medal)
Eggs .88¢ 1 doz (kroger)
Coke Cola 3.49 12 pk
Regular Gas 2.539
BTW: When it deos hurt the economy (irreparably IMHO)... ask yourself this:
Are they incompetent and stupid (by botching the job) or smart and sly (by achieving a desired result)
"All warfare is based on deception."
"The spot where we intend to fight must not be made known;
for then the enemy will have to prepare against a possible attack
at several different points; and his forces being thus distributed
in many directions, the numbers we shall have to face at any
given point will be proportionately few."
SunTzu - The Art of War
I'm going to get a copy of some basic receipts this weekend. I'm sure we'll be paying a lot more in 2 years, 4 on the outside.
I think the actions of the so-called left can be explained by their desire to achieve utopia. There are some string pullers who only seek power and LOTS of useful idiots that love the notion of it. Utopia is the opiate of liberals.
All the Great Society, Social Security, Medicare and gun control pushes can be explained by the left's desire to achieve utopia. (IMHO)
It's the tool used to control them because they scoff at traditional religion. It's all the same thing though.
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