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funkfool
03-25-2010, 20:42
From this month's American Handgunner...

http://www.failzero.com/

Never grease your gun again?

FAILZEROTM tactical upgrades give law enforcement, security and military professionals the "active weapon advantage" in critical use: no grease to hold grit, no oil to wear off, no gun-jamming crud on key components. FAILZERO tactical rifle upgrades and pistol drop-in kits use patented EXO Technology to provide permanent dry lubricity to metal surfaces. This breakthrough technology, thoroughly proven in SWAT applications, DoD testing and battlefield conditions, creates a greaseless, permanently lubricious surface that's harder than the substrate itself. Unlike films, conventional coatings and applied lubricants, it never rubs off, thins out, spalls off, or builds up crud. FAILZERO upgrade parts radically reduce maintenance and improve the performance of tactical firearms starting with the AR-15 M4/16 and 1911 -- and the confidence you have in them when optimum performance is critical.

Hmmmm.

Birddog1911
03-25-2010, 21:53
Interesting. Considering the number of areas that require grease on the M14 platform, if this really works, I'd have to check it out.

Troublco
03-25-2010, 22:22
I have a hard time with anything that claims to be a permanent lubricant. Especially in my guns! Sort of like "permanently lubricated" sealed bearings in a car; when they go they go all the way, and you can't do anything about it till you have to replace 'em.

bryjcom
03-25-2010, 23:09
Interesting. Considering the number of areas that require grease on the M14 platform, if this really works, I'd have to check it out.

Looks like it is upgrade parts and not really a "lubricant" Looks like they are only doing the ar and 1911 platforms.

Personally I have had good luck with grease on the m14. It may collect dust and grit but I haven't had a stopage because of dirt. These pictures were taken out in the grasslands on a REALLY windy day. I had to take brake cleaner to get the grit off, but I didn't have one malfunction

http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo267/brycom1/dirtym14005.jpg

http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo267/brycom1/dirtym14004.jpg

SA Friday
03-25-2010, 23:22
From the site:

Test results include:

50,000 lube-free rounds on AR-15s.
15,000 lube-free rounds on M9 pistols.
18,000 lube-free rounds on carbine rifles.
23,000 lube-free rounds on machine guns.
I remember once the military had a self cleaning weapon...[Coffee]

15k on a 9mm pistol isn't very many rounds. Neither is 18K on a carbine or 23K on a machine gun. 50K on an AR I would like to see though.

StagLefty
03-26-2010, 06:31
[QUOTE=SA Friday;184261]


I remember once the military had a self cleaning weapon...[Coffee]

good memory chip SA-[Beer]

rforsythe
03-26-2010, 07:00
Out of curiosity has anyone tried liquid Teflon in a gun? It's suspended in an alcohol base that evaporates out quickly, just leaving the Teflon adhered to the surface in question. I've started using it on motorcycles in place of virtually every other external lube because it lasts a while, and does not attract dirt since it doesn't remain sticky. I got to thinking, on a clean weapon some of this on the moving parts might actually work well. It comes in aerosol cans and liquid squeeze-bottles, so pretty easy to work with as well.

TEAMRICO
03-26-2010, 07:28
The military does have the ultimate weapon cleaning device.
They are called PRIVATES!!!!!!

They are the multi-function tool of the Army.