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So they are building this school near me, and I got to thinking about this.
If you are one of the construction workers building the school, can you carry on site? When exactly does the school become a school? When the certificate of occupancy is signed? Maybe that is only for residential homes. Anyone know?
Most sites have it written in the rules of the site no weapons at all.. Yes you will be tossed..
Well sure, by the employer, but will you also get a Class 6 Felony?
I should have been more clear.
Depends on the super.. If he's a swinging richard,, yes.. sometimes they will tell you to put it in the car and park the car off site.. I will say,it would not be the easiest thing to do anyway.. There is no real good way of doing it.. I'd be worried about getting hook up with it..
ETA: the less metal the better for some of the things I've done..
It becomes a school when the kid hits the teacher and the teacher can't do anything about it... oh, and something about "ma babee ain't dew nuttin'" and "I gots meye eduhmakashun, axes my babee doll"....
sry....
Should be fine unless signs are present or in final stages of construction to where personell are walking around... I would think.
Oh, I will say this,, If something went down,, There are are usually enough air and powder accuated tools around, that if the adapt and persevere kind of guy knew what to do... Not that I have knowlege of things like that..
That's what my dad said. "If something happens, grab a hammer."
Perhaps this will answer you question: 18-12-214
3) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun onto the real property, or into any improvements erected thereon, of a public elementary, middle, junior high, or high school; except that:
(a) A permittee may have a handgun on the real property of the public school so long as the handgun remains in his or her vehicle and, if the permittee is not in the vehicle, the handgun is in a compartment within the vehicle and the vehicle is locked;
(b) A permittee who is employed or retained by contract by a school district as a school security officer may carry a concealed handgun onto the real property, or into any improvement erected thereon, of a public elementary, middle, junior high, or high school while the permittee is on duty;
(c) A permittee may carry a concealed handgun on undeveloped real property owned by a school district that is used for hunting or other shooting sports.
It becomes"the real property of the school district" as soon as they have been deeded the land.
It becomes"the real property of the school district" as soon as they have been deeded the land.
This seems to be the closest answer so far.
Note that it states "real property" not just buildings. I would not carry on that site, whatever phase it is in.
Yep, I think the "real property" part is the key to the whole thing.
Glock Shooter
04-26-2010, 15:44
I guess I have a related/tangent question:
Can I walk my daughter to school while carrying concealed and drop her off? I would never be inside the school but I would be technically on school property. The kindergarten entrance is around back and I would have to walk through the playground.
No, that will get you into trouble.
I like to run on school tracks sometimes, and I can't ever carry when I do that. Sucks. I can't even think of a standardized track that isn't part of a school. I guess I could find one on a college campus, but none of those close enough to run to.
Glock Shooter
04-26-2010, 15:51
Yeah just found this:
If I have a concealed carry permit, can I carry on K-12 school grounds? NO
18-12-214. Authority granted by permit - carrying restrictions.
(3) A permit does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun onto the real property, or into any improvements erected thereon, of a public elementary, middle, junior high, or high school.
Note: Previous to the 2003 Concealed Carry law, you could legally carry concealed with a permit on school grounds. If you don't like that concession (we don't), talk to former Governor Bill Owens and the NRA.
If I am carrying a concealed handgun and have to go on school grounds, what do I do?
18-12-214. Authority granted by permit - carrying restrictions.
(3) (a) A permittee may have a handgun on the real property of the public school so long as the handgun remains in his or her vehicle and, if the permittee is not in the vehicle, the handgun is in a compartment within the vehicle and the vehicle is locked;
I like to run...
The cops are behind you!!![M2]
lol, most colleges are also denied carry "zones" too, so be careful with that as well.
Yeah just found this:
If I have a concealed carry permit, can I carry on K-12 school grounds? NO
18-12-214. Authority granted by permit - carrying restrictions.
(3) A permit does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun onto the real property, or into any improvements erected thereon, of a public elementary, middle, junior high, or high school.
Note: Previous to the 2003 Concealed Carry law, you could legally carry concealed with a permit on school grounds. If you don't like that concession (we don't), talk to former Governor Bill Owens and the NRA.
If I am carrying a concealed handgun and have to go on school grounds, what do I do?
18-12-214. Authority granted by permit - carrying restrictions.
(3) (a) A permittee may have a handgun on the real property of the public school so long as the handgun remains in his or her vehicle and, if the permittee is not in the vehicle, the handgun is in a compartment within the vehicle and the vehicle is locked;
Short answer: You can have it as long as you can't get to it when you need it! [Bang][AR15]
Colleges deny that right to students. I'm not a student, so I don't care if they try to expel me.
It is only a Class 6 Felony to carry onto K-12 school grounds.
rhineoshott
04-26-2010, 15:54
It becomes a school when the receiver is installed. That's the part that carries the definition.[ROFL1]
Yeah just found this:.....
We've already covered CRS 18-12-214
I don't quite agree with this,
"It becomes"the real property of the school district" as soon as they have been deeded the land."
The law addresses schools not school district property. I would argue that the building/land is defined by it's use, not it's ownership or construction status. Charter schools don't always own the buildings they use and public schools are often converted to admin or other uses. VoTech schools will have construction programs out in empty fields or hangars. I'm not an atty, nor am I giving legal advice. Just arguing a point. I wasn't able to find a good definition of "school" in the CRS.
You bring up good points. I was going to say earlier that an effective way to out law guns is to "gift" more land to schools if all they have to do is have their name associated with it (the land).
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