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sniper7
04-24-2010, 00:03
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100424/ap_on_re_us/us_immigration_enforcement


PHOENIX – Gov. Jan Brewer ignored criticism from President Barack Obama on Friday and signed into law a bill supporters said would take handcuffs off police in dealing with illegal immigration in Arizona, the nation's busiest gateway for human and drug smuggling from Mexico.
With hundreds of protesters outside the state Capitol shouting that the bill would lead to civil rights abuses, Brewer said critics were "overreacting" and that she wouldn't tolerate racial profiling.
"We in Arizona have been more than patient waiting for Washington to act," Brewer said after signing the law. "But decades of inaction and misguided policy have created a dangerous and unacceptable situation."
Earlier Friday, Obama called the Arizona bill "misguided" and instructed the Justice Department to examine it to see if it's legal. He also said the federal government must enact immigration reform at the national level — or leave the door open to "irresponsibility by others."
"That includes, for example, the recent efforts in Arizona, which threaten to undermine basic notions of fairness that we cherish as Americans, as well as the trust between police and their communities that is so crucial to keeping us safe," Obama said.
The legislation, sent to the Republican governor by the GOP-led Legislature, makes it a crime under state law to be in the country illegally. It also requires local police officers to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they are illegal immigrants; allows lawsuits against government agencies that hinder enforcement of immigration laws; and makes it illegal to hire illegal immigrants for day labor or knowingly transport them.
The law sends "a clear message that Arizona is unfriendly to undocumented aliens," said Peter Spiro, a Temple University law professor and author of the book "Beyond Citizenship: American Identity After Globalization."
Brewer signed the bill in a state auditorium about a mile from the Capitol complex where some 2,000 demonstrators booed when county Supervisor Mary Rose Wilcox announced that "the governor did not listen to our prayers."
"It's going to change our lives," said Emilio Almodovar, a 13-year-old American citizen from Phoenix. "We can't walk to school any more. We can't be in the streets anymore without the pigs thinking we're illegal immigrants."
Protesters gathered in Miami Friday evening at the Freedom Tower, where thousands of Cuban refugees were processed after fleeing the communist revolution.
"A thousand people a day are being deported. A thousand families being destroyed. And this comes at a very high moral and financial cost to this nation," said Maria Rodriguez, executive director of the Florida Immigration Coalition.
The Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund said it plans a legal challenge to the law, arguing it "launches Arizona into a spiral of pervasive fear, community distrust, increased crime and costly litigation, with nationwide repercussions."
William Sanchez, president of the National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders Legal Defense Fund, said his group is preparing a federal lawsuit against Arizona to stop the law from being applied. The group represents 30,000 Evangelical churches nationwide, including 300 Latino pastors in Arizona.
"Millions of Latinos around the country are shocked," Sanchez said.
Mexican Foreign Secretary Patricia Espinosa said Friday that the passage of the law will affect relations between Mexico and Arizona and "it will force Mexico to consider whether the cooperation agreements that have been developed with Arizona are viable and useful."
Espinosa said Mexico regrets that Arizona did not take into account the "valuable contributions that migrants make to the economy, society and culture of Arizona and the United States of America."
She said the movement of illegal merchandise along the Mexico-U.S. border is far from being connected to illegal immigration.
Guatemalan Vice President Rafael Estrada said the law "is a step back for those migrants who have fought" for their rights. Guatemala's Foreign Relations Department decried the measure in a statement saying "it threatens basic notions of justice."
The law will take effect in late July or early August, and Brewer ordered the state's law enforcement licensing agency to develop a training course on how to implement it without violating civil rights.
"We must enforce the law evenly, and without regard to skin color, accent, or social status," she said. "We must prove the alarmists and the cynics wrong."
Brewer, who faces a tough election battle and growing anger in the state over illegal immigrants, said the law "protects every Arizona citizen."
Anti-immigrant anger has swelled in the past month, after rancher Rob Krentz was found dead on his land north of Douglas, near the Mexico border. Authorities believe he was fatally shot by an illegal immigrant possibly connected to a drug smuggling cartel.
Arizona has an estimated 460,000 illegal immigrants, and its harsh, remote desert serves as the corridor for the majority of illegal immigrants and drugs moving north into the U.S. from Mexico.
U.S. Rep. Raul Grijalva, a Democrat, said he closed his Arizona offices at noon Friday after his staff in Yuma and Tucson were flooded with calls, some from people threatening violent acts and shouting racial slurs. He called on businesses and groups looking for convention and meeting locations to boycott Arizona.
The bill's Republican sponsor, state Rep. Russell Pearce of Mesa, said Obama and other critics of the bill were "against law enforcement, our citizens and the rule of law."
Pearce said the legislation would remove "political handcuffs" from police and help drive illegal immigrants from the state.
"Illegal is illegal," said Pearce, a driving force on the issue in Arizona. "We'll have less crime. We'll have lower taxes. We'll have safer neighborhoods. We'll have shorter lines in the emergency rooms. We'll have smaller classrooms."









fantastic news! I love how it started off with "ignored criticism from obama"...haha sucker jam that down your throat!

blackford76
04-24-2010, 00:28
One down, fourtynine to go!

theGinsue
04-24-2010, 00:30
Yeah, I read that too and loved it! It's good to see that this governor isn't giving in to the intimidation sent out by the POTUS.

sniper7
04-24-2010, 00:35
Yeah, I read that too and loved it! It's good to see that this governor isn't giving in to the intimidation sent out by the POTUS.


basically told the CIC to SUCK IT![ROFL1]

ronaldrwl
04-24-2010, 07:15
We need a Gov. like that[Beer]

ryanek9freak
04-24-2010, 07:22
It's about damn time!!

waxthis
04-24-2010, 07:44
Thank god....Its a start!!!

Mtn.man
04-24-2010, 07:49
We need a Gov. like that[Beer]

We need a gov. PERIOD....

Ed_S
04-24-2010, 07:52
Awesome news, I wish more states were like that!

For those of us legally here I get pissed at the liberals with their illegal’s have rights BS! No they don’t!

If you want to live here legally it’s simple – get a visa, then get your green card.

Oh yeah and none of this hopping over the border so your baby can be born here!

As for Obama………….. At best an idiot, at worst downright scary!

TS12000
04-24-2010, 08:18
This guy deserves a fruit basket

DocMedic
04-24-2010, 08:42
This guy deserves a fruit basket

That dude is a Woman lol.

sniper7
04-24-2010, 09:00
That dude is a Woman lol.


[ROFL1]

reading is fundamental!

cebeu
04-24-2010, 09:58
The POTUS is a f****** joke on this topic / issue --> "Earlier Friday, President Obama called the Arizona bill "misguided" and instructed the Justice Department to examine it to see if it's legal. He also said the federal government must enact immigration reform at the national level -- or leave the door open to "irresponsibility by others." Stated probably because he, too, may be considered "illegal" in future runs for the Presidency in AZ based on their push to require birth documentation.



William Sanchez, president of the National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders Legal Defense Fund, said his group is preparing a federal lawsuit against Arizona to stop the law from being applied. The group represents 30,000 Evangelical churches nationwide, including 300 Latino pastors in Arizona. "Millions of Latinos around the country are shocked," Sanchez said. <-- Hey, wild Bill, for decades "TENS of MILLIONS around the country have been shocked too, and remain so to this day!" Shocked that this is even a topic worthy of consuming time and resources and that people like you use your role as forum to blabber about supporting what is in essence, nothing more than a push for an open door for illegal’s to reside in this country without consequence." Immigration? Great. Latino or other-wise, great. Illegal? EAT ASS and get the hell out.



"It's going to change our lives," said Emilio Almodovar, a 13-year-old American citizen from Phoenix. "We can't walk to school any more. We can't be in the streets anymore without the pigs thinking we're illegal immigrants." <-- Little Emilio needs his American-bred brown ass whipped. Can't walk to school? Pigs? Eat shit you ignorant little fuck! And eat more shit with that half-ass family that raised you (assuming they exist) to define law enforcement as pigs. Can't walk to school? Shut-up you juvenile dumbass.




Mexico warned the proposal could affect cross-border relations, with Foreign Secretary Patricia Espinosa saying her country would have to "consider whether the cooperation agreements that have been developed with Arizona are viable and useful." <-- And...finally ...BBBWWWAAAAAAAAAAA...are you friggin' kidding me? Cross-border relations impacted...screw the purported relations, it’s virtually a one-way street and it is not the USSA that is coming out on top anyway. Kiss my ass Patricia.

ChunkyMonkey
04-24-2010, 10:50
If you support AZ, please take a quick 2 minutes to voice some encouragement. The small yet very vocal groups that are against the bill have been flooding Gov email/phone lines nonstop.

http://www.governor.state.az.us/Contact.asp

TS12000
04-24-2010, 11:07
That dude is a Woman lol.

yeah that's what I..um..meant, of course I read the whole thing/know what's going on at any given moment

Brassie
04-24-2010, 11:32
PHOENIX – Gov. Jan Brewer ignored criticism from President Barack Obama on Friday and signed into law Thank you

"We in Arizona (And Colorado and Denver the santuary city)have been more than patient waiting for Washington or the gov and the mayorto act," Brewer said

Brewer signed the bill in a state auditorium about a mile from the Capitol complex where some 2,000 only 2000 [Cry]where were the others my guess hiding[ROFL1]demonstrators booed when county Supervisor Mary Rose Wilcox announced that "the governor did not listen to our prayers."

"We can't walk to school any more. We can't be in the streets anymore without the pigs ah excuse me? our "pigs" why don't you take a little step across the border and let us know what human rights looks like there senor thinking we're illegal immigrants."

William Sanchez, president of the National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders Legal Defense Fund, said his group is preparing a federal lawsuit against Arizona to stop the law from being applied. The group represents 30,000 Evangelical churches nationwide how many? sorry that's a stretch Senorita Sanchez
"Millions of Latinos around the country are shocked," Sanchez said.And millions of illegals are scared zhitless

Arizona has an estimated 460,000 illegal immigrants, that failed to show up at the protest[Coffee].




fantastic news! I love how it started off with "ignored criticism from obama"...haha sucker jam that down your throat![/quote]

Yep[Beer]

jake
04-24-2010, 11:52
fantastic news! I love how it started off with "ignored criticism from obama"...haha sucker jam that down your throat!
Yeah, that'll teach him! Nothing worse than having criticism ignored :D

I think this is really just a sop to the conservatives in Arizona. From what I've read the governor is facing a strong challenge in her re-election campaign, and so like John McCain she's desperate to appear tough on issues that exorcise the voters.

If it's implemented like a couple of posters in the other thread suggested it would be, then it's going to result in a few illegals being deported, but I bet it will be a drop in the ocean compared to how many cross the border in the same time.

If it's implemented in the way it could be, then I'm sure before too long Joe Arpaio is going to take it way too far and have a lawsuit on his hands for harassing US citizens or brown colored tourists.

Backinblackrifles
04-24-2010, 12:10
This has been a long time coming, I think the reason all the libs are mad is because the illegals are the only ones voting for them. My view on it is like this if you want to come to America you are more than welcome but you get to stand in line, Do paper work, and get a job like everybody else, Despite age race or religion.

waxthis
04-24-2010, 15:23
The POTUS is a f****** joke on this topic / issue --> "Earlier Friday, President Obama called the Arizona bill "misguided" and instructed the Justice Department to examine it to see if it's legal. He also said the federal government must enact immigration reform at the national level -- or leave the door open to "irresponsibility by others." Stated probably because he, too, may be considered "illegal" in future runs for the Presidency in AZ based on their push to require birth documentation.



William Sanchez, president of the National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders Legal Defense Fund, said his group is preparing a federal lawsuit against Arizona to stop the law from being applied. The group represents 30,000 Evangelical churches nationwide, including 300 Latino pastors in Arizona. "Millions of Latinos around the country are shocked," Sanchez said. <-- Hey, wild Bill, for decades "TENS of MILLIONS around the country have been shocked too, and remain so to this day!" Shocked that this is even a topic worthy of consuming time and resources and that people like you use your role as forum to blabber about supporting what is in essence, nothing more than a push for an open door for illegal’s to reside in this country without consequence." Immigration? Great. Latino or other-wise, great. Illegal? EAT ASS and get the hell out.



"It's going to change our lives," said Emilio Almodovar, a 13-year-old American citizen from Phoenix. "We can't walk to school any more. We can't be in the streets anymore without the pigs thinking we're illegal immigrants." <-- Little Emilio needs his American-bred brown ass whipped. Can't walk to school? Pigs? Eat shit you ignorant little fuck! And eat more shit with that half-ass family that raised you (assuming they exist) to define law enforcement as pigs. Can't walk to school? Shut-up you juvenile dumbass.




Mexico warned the proposal could affect cross-border relations, with Foreign Secretary Patricia Espinosa saying her country would have to "consider whether the cooperation agreements that have been developed with Arizona are viable and useful." <-- And...finally ...BBBWWWAAAAAAAAAAA...are you friggin' kidding me? Cross-border relations impacted...screw the purported relations, it’s virtually a one-way street and it is not the USSA that is coming out on top anyway. Kiss my ass Patricia.

No one could of said it better…..Cheers…[Beer]

theGinsue
04-24-2010, 15:28
Here, I fixed it for you:


This has been a long time coming, I think the reason all the libs are mad is because the illegals are the only ones voting for them. My view on it is like this if you want to come to America you are more than welcome but you get to stand in line, Do paper work, and get a job like everybody else, learn and speak English, Despite age race or religion.

BigMat
04-24-2010, 16:34
I am wicked torn up about this one.

-Just for the sake of this is the internet and you can't see me. I come from southern AZ, born and raised. I worked an ambulance that ran in the Nogales and Tucson section under the USBP. I majored in Latin American Studies pertaining to US/Mexico border relations, from the U of Arizona. And finally I worked search and rescue along the border. end resume for this topic-

I’m generally really skeptical about the .gov and their actions and worry about the possibility of "lets see your papers" check points. There are already DUI checkpoints in Arizona, and if this is a crime, why no “papers” check points? I don’t like people monitoring where I’ve gone if that info is saved and without some scanning system I don't see how it could be very effective, a fake idea is easy if it has no bar coding system.

Second, as a person who comes from AZ I can say with certainty there are sections of the towns that may as well be in Mexico, not because they are full of illegal immigrants but because the entire population is Spanish speaking Hispanics whose families have lived in the cities longer than the cities have fallen within US territory, Now US citizens, what would not make them “suspicious.”

My opinion, there is no good way about this without destroying a lot of what we hold dear. Huge sections of AZ use migrant workers for agriculture, in jobs we won’t do, trust me, they have tried, just not a large enough population way out in the sticks of AZ come harvest time, and most US citizens aren’t wild about living 20 per doublewide for a few months a year.

Secondly, there are reservations in the area that are sovereign and have territory in the US and Mexico, they won’t build a fence across the reservation so tribal members can cross freely. And, no surprise, we ran into plenty of UDAs crossing there, through empty wasteland desert run by a government that, to put it mildly, isn’t wild about having federal officers patrolling it.


Wish I could come up with a better solution though, and frankly, not sure about the need for a solution. In terms of taxing our system, I ran into plenty of dirt bag civilians (read-lazy or drug addicted) milking the lowest income aid and free health care our system has, at least illegals generally got jobs and helped out small business with CHEAP labor, not just used ambulances as taxis and hospitals as hotels on our dime. interesting topic though, but frankly to me it looks like a smoke and mirrors political trick to rev up republicans in the cities, with no teeth or way of fixing anything

ronaldrwl
04-24-2010, 18:41
If you get caught and your not a citizen, you should be deported. It doesn't have to be complicated. There is no question we have the right to decide who comes into our country.

The wages for picking needs to go up so that citizen are interested in that work. Right now you have near slave labor doing it. That gives a false value to the job. That may mean the price of food will go up; but that's what happens when you use salve labor. Sounds like a similar argument the south was making to keep their slaves.

jake
04-24-2010, 19:19
If you get caught and your not a citizen, you should be deported. It doesn't have to be complicated. There is no question we have the right to decide who comes into our country.
The thing is, what's the betting that anyone who is deported under this law comes right back over the first chance they get?

And say, for the sake of argument, that 50,000 people a year cross the border into Arizona. That means that the police will have to discover 50,000 illegal immigrants amongst the people they detain for other reasons (assuming they don't go out hunting specifically for illegals) just to maintain the status quo.

theGinsue
04-24-2010, 19:23
If you support AZ, please take a quick 2 minutes to voice some encouragement. The small yet very vocal groups that are against the bill have been flooding Gov email/phone lines nonstop.

http://www.governor.state.az.us/Contact.asp


Then I guess we need to make it just uncomforatble enough for them to be here that they don't want to come back.