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9dayall
04-30-2010, 10:30
is it completely legal to leave your firearm in your car at all times, chamber unloaded? i only take it to the shooting range. just wondering if i can just leave it in my car. thanks! - newbie

Irving
04-30-2010, 10:36
Yes, you can leave a firearm in your vehicle. You aren't allowed to have a round chambered in a long gun (i.e. rifle or shotgun).

Backinblackrifles
04-30-2010, 10:41
Ya You can leave em in the car if You want, Handguns chamber can be loaded, Long guns should not be loaded IDK why other than the rules about hunting in the state of Co. But I advise against it I live in Lakewood and had a $3,000 dollar Ar snatched in broad daylight, Just smashed the window and took off and Nobody saw anything? My neighbor is denver PD and I live in an "upper class" neighborhood. Just go's to show that someone is always watching You! So I will not leave anything in mine any more.

9dayall
04-30-2010, 12:09
Ya You can leave em in the car if You want, Handguns chamber can be loaded, Long guns should not be loaded IDK why other than the rules about hunting in the state of Co. But I advise against it I live in Lakewood and had a $3,000 dollar Ar snatched in broad daylight, Just smashed the window and took off and Nobody saw anything? My neighbor is denver PD and I live in an "upper class" neighborhood. Just go's to show that someone is always watching You! So I will not leave anything in mine any more.


i assume your gun was at least hidden? dang that sucks to hear though!

cowboykjohnson
04-30-2010, 12:13
I would not recommend leaving one in there at all times, though you can. Take it out when you get home, or risk having it not be there. Is a 200$-2000+$ investment worth just leaving in your car?

SA Friday
04-30-2010, 12:20
I seen and heard about more guns stolen from vehicles than any other way. Leaving a gun in your car is like giving it away, but with more broken glass involved. If I can't see my vehicle from a window at all times, I don't leave a gun in it, period. The only way I would recommend this is if you have a lock box bolted/welded into the cab and the gun remains in it.

Backinblackrifles
04-30-2010, 12:21
i assume your gun was at least hidden? dang that sucks to hear though!

Ya it was, I had it under the back seat which folded down and completely Conceales everything underneath it and it cannot be seen. So someone was watching either at the range and followed me home or in the neighborhood and knew excatly where to look for it to make a very very fast snatch. [ROFL3][ROFL3][ROFL3] I said snatch[ROFL3][ROFL3]

Irving
04-30-2010, 12:23
Yep, and now your rifle is in Mexico killing babies by now. They need to close the "Back Seat" Loophole!

Backinblackrifles
04-30-2010, 12:25
Yep, and now your rifle is in Mexico killing babies by now. They need to close the "Back Seat" Loophole!

Am I missing a Joke?

Irving
04-30-2010, 12:27
Yes you are.

Dummy gun grabbers are under the impression that all the guns in Mexico come from the United States because of the "Gun Show" loophole (which isn't a loop hole at all).

I don't really think your rifle is in Mexico killing babies that get caught between drug cartels.

Backinblackrifles
04-30-2010, 12:31
Yes you are.

Dummy gun grabbers are under the impression that all the guns in Mexico come from the United States because of the "Gun Show" loophole (which isn't a loop hole at all).

Ok I did not make the connection, Thank You for Clearing it up. But it does make My skin crawl just thinking about what could be being done with it right now in Mexico or not.

theGinsue
04-30-2010, 12:31
I seen and heard about more guns stolen from vehicles than any other way. Leaving a gun in your car is like giving it away, but with more broken glass involved. If I can't see my vehicle from a window at all times, I don't leave a gun in it, period. The only way I would recommend this is if you have a lock box bolted/welded into the cab and the gun remains in it.

+1 If you leave a firearm in your vehicle unattended, you need to do so with the assumption that it will be gone by the time you return - and you can be pleasantly surprised if it is still there.


Am I missing a Joke?

Yes. Yes you are.

Very good and cerebral joke there Stu.

theGinsue
04-30-2010, 12:33
I don't really think your rifle is in Mexico killing babies that get caught between drug cartels.

Nice disclaimer Stu.

Backinblackrifles
04-30-2010, 12:41
+1 If you leave a firearm in your vehicle unattended, you need to do so with the assumption that it will be gone by the time you return - and you can be pleasantly surprised if it is still there.



Yes. Yes you are.

Very good and cerebral joke there Stu.

I know stu a little better than for Him to intentionaly be "mean" (at least I think so) That is why I asked.

I have since replaced all the glass in my windows with A polly carbon material that is about 400xs stronger than tempered glass, I also putt a divider between the front seat and the back, and welded some pretty stiff Bars across the windows, This May seem extreme but at the time I made a living with My guns ( before I started training horses again which pays better ) and always had one in the car when I left the house and wanted to reduce the risk, The lesson I think I learned is even though You think You are the only one that knows about it, There are always people watching You.

sniper7
04-30-2010, 18:02
I know stu a little better than for Him to intentionaly be "mean" (at least I think so) That is why I asked.

I have since replaced all the glass in my windows with A polly carbon material that is about 400xs stronger than tempered glass, I also putt a divider between the front seat and the back, and welded some pretty stiff Bars across the windows, This May seem extreme but at the time I made a living with My guns ( before I started training horses again which pays better ) and always had one in the car when I left the house and wanted to reduce the risk, The lesson I think I learned is even though You think You are the only one that knows about it, There are always people watching You.


you could have saved the money on the window upgrades and got yourself a cobra snake!
http://stardustandsequins.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/cobra-snake-chanel-cruise-show-logo.jpg

[Beer]

KevDen2005
04-30-2010, 18:06
Yes you are.

Dummy gun grabbers are under the impression that all the guns in Mexico come from the United States because of the "Gun Show" loophole (which isn't a loop hole at all).

I don't really think your rifle is in Mexico killing babies that get caught between drug cartels.


What???? And this whole time I was going to gun shows to buy all my automatic weapons for raids in other countries....we must be talking about two different kinds of shows, sir!

Irving
04-30-2010, 18:17
Off topic, but I know of a bar in Aurora that has a regular who wears a cowboy hat with a rattle snake skin band around it, with a rattle snake skull (wearing sunglasses) on the front. It's an amazing hat.

KevDen2005
04-30-2010, 19:56
Off topic, but I know of a bar in Aurora that has a regular who wears a cowboy hat with a rattle snake skin band around it, with a rattle snake skull (wearing sunglasses) on the front. It's an amazing hat.



What in the world?????

Was the rattle snake skinned by the dude's nephew...and in '69 died in VietNam?

Backinblackrifles
04-30-2010, 20:46
Off topic, but I know of a bar in Aurora that has a regular who wears a cowboy hat with a rattle snake skin band around it, with a rattle snake skull (wearing sunglasses) on the front. It's an amazing hat.

That was Me![LOL][Beer]

Irving
04-30-2010, 21:44
What in the world?????

Was the rattle snake skinned by the dude's nephew...and in '69 died in VietNam?

No idea. Sounds like you know a similar guy though. I think he also wore snakeskin boots. The bar was Scooters.

68Charger
04-30-2010, 22:20
Holy thread derailment, Big Daddy!


I advise against it I live in Lakewood and had a $3,000 dollar Ar snatched in broad daylight,

That really stinks.. you can dog Hi-points all you want, but this is a niche they fill well.. a "truck gun" (or car gun).. leave it in there, keep the S/N recorded in case it's stolen.. but $150 is much less painful... if they never see you take it in/out, then there is no clue it's there, and who really plans to steal one? keep the pricey firearms in the safe, or within easy reach.. keep the cheap but reliable arms in harms way at all times... but easily accessible.

Backinblackrifles
05-01-2010, 11:51
No idea. Sounds like you know a similar guy though. I think he also wore snakeskin boots. The bar was Scooters.

Lol Now it is You missing the Joke Stu![ROFL1]

Backinblackrifles
05-01-2010, 11:51
Holy thread derailment, Big Daddy!



That really stinks.. you can dog Hi-points all you want, but this is a niche they fill well.. a "truck gun" (or car gun).. leave it in there, keep the S/N recorded in case it's stolen.. but $150 is much less painful... if they never see you take it in/out, then there is no clue it's there, and who really plans to steal one? keep the pricey firearms in the safe, or within easy reach.. keep the cheap but reliable arms in harms way at all times... but easily accessible.

Nothing Wrong with HP other than ugly factor. Really hard to beat the warranty too.

Ryan_Th3_K1d
05-01-2010, 12:04
Lol Now it is You missing the Joke Stu![ROFL1]

yeah, it was a reference to an old Charley Daniels song, right?

sniper7
05-01-2010, 17:02
Holy thread derailment, Big Daddy!



That really stinks.. you can dog Hi-points all you want, but this is a niche they fill well.. a "truck gun" (or car gun).. leave it in there, keep the S/N recorded in case it's stolen.. but $150 is much less painful... if they never see you take it in/out, then there is no clue it's there, and who really plans to steal one? keep the pricey firearms in the safe, or within easy reach.. keep the cheap but reliable arms in harms way at all times... but easily accessible.


plus a high point weighs too much for most thugs to steal. kinda hard to conceal a gun in sagged pants when it weighs 10 lbs unloaded[Tooth]

Backinblackrifles
05-01-2010, 22:24
yeah, it was a reference to an old Charley Daniels song, right?

No, Chris LeDouxe, pronounced LEY-DOO

rondog
05-02-2010, 00:05
Leaving guns in my vehicles is something I just can't bring myself to do. I don't even like to do it when I'm entering a restricted area (post office, etc.). I've never had a breakin, but still.... I'm very careful about having them visible, like putting them in the truck for range trips, and I live in a very good neighborhood.

Ryan_Th3_K1d
05-02-2010, 03:50
No, Chris LeDouxe, pronounced LEY-DOO

Ah, This Cowboy's Hat! I was thinking about the long haired hippy song by Charlie Daniels...about the hippy walking into the bar and asking for help or something like that.

Chris LeDoux, great old country artist...still hear him every now and again on the radio :)

glock21
05-02-2010, 10:53
so you can have a loaded hand gun in the car? i was under the impression it couldnt be loaded, i keep mine in my console unchambered, some one please clear this up for me. can i have my handgun chambered in my truck with out a ccw permit?

trlcavscout
05-02-2010, 11:20
I was always told yes it can be loaded in the car.

Irving
05-02-2010, 12:58
Yes, in Colorado, you can have your hand gun loaded, chambered, and ANYWHERE in your vehicle, including on your person, without a permit. I was once wearing my gun fully loaded with one in the pipe (no other way to carry) in an IWB holster, with no permit. I drove through a DUI check point and the officer wanted me to pull over and get out of the car. I did, but told him I had a gun. He said that was fine and told me to get out and just put my hands on the roof when I did and they'd take care of the gun for me. I got out, hands on roof, someone took the gun (I told them to be careful since there was no external safety). Someone took it back to a cruiser while the other officer took me to the side to do a road side. I got about 20 seconds into the road side before he abruptly stopped and shook his head at his partner. Apparently I had been telling him the truth when I told him I had had only one beer at dinner three hours ago.

They put the gun on the passenger side floor with the action open, mag out, and tossed the now unchambered round on the floor and told me to have a good night. This was in Federal Heights by the way.

rondog
05-02-2010, 13:09
Yep, that's what I've heard too. Now long guns like rifles and shotguns can have loaded magazines, but the chambers must be empty. I think I've heard that's a DOW law or requirement. Probably a good idea. There's been too many accidents with people getting shot while dragging a rifle or shotgun out of a vehicle and the trigger getting snagged on something. My wife used to work with a lady that lost her oldest son that way.

Irving
05-02-2010, 14:29
Long guns not being able to have a round chambered is to prevent poaching I believe. I'm not sure how that law matters though.

If you are in a wheel chair, you can apply for an exemption to hunt from your vehicle, then you can have a chambered long gun in your vehicle.

sniper7
05-02-2010, 15:55
so you can have a loaded hand gun in the car? i was under the impression it couldnt be loaded, i keep mine in my console unchambered, some one please clear this up for me. can i have my handgun chambered in my truck with out a ccw permit?


yes a HANDGUN can be loaded and one in the chamber.

RIFLES can only have them in the mag, nothing in the chamber. if you are hunting with an OHV, the entire thing must be unloaded and in a fully sealed hardcase...no scabbards.
for some reason i thought they changed the law and it says long guns must be fully unloaded, but i can't find anything on it on CDOW or a .gov so maybe I am mistaken. the CDOW says you can have them loaded, just not in the chamber while transporting in a vehicle so I don't think it changed.

here is the rules on that (page 7):
http://wildlife.state.co.us/NR/rdonlyres/393CEE85-2EA3-48B9-9480-7EDC2166361B/0/biggame.pdf

Pistol Packing Preacher
05-03-2010, 08:08
Yes, in Colorado, you can have your hand gun loaded, chambered, and ANYWHERE in your vehicle, including on your person, without a permit. I was once wearing my gun fully loaded with one in the pipe (no other way to carry) in an IWB holster, with no permit. I drove through a DUI check point and the officer wanted me to pull over and get out of the car. I did, but told him I had a gun. He said that was fine and told me to get out and just put my hands on the roof when I did and they'd take care of the gun for me. I got out, hands on roof, someone took the gun (I told them to be careful since there was no external safety). Someone took it back to a cruiser while the other officer took me to the side to do a road side. I got about 20 seconds into the road side before he abruptly stopped and shook his head at his partner. Apparently I had been telling him the truth when I told him I had had only one beer at dinner three hours ago.

They put the gun on the passenger side floor with the action open, mag out, and tossed the now unchambered round on the floor and told me to have a good night. This was in Federal Heights by the way.

Cool! Any reason why you do not get your CCW???

Irving
05-03-2010, 11:44
Preacher, that was over a year ago, maybe even closer to two years. I expect a call this week from Adams County.