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http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/anger-over-arizona-law-sends-thousands-into-the-streets/19461398
"It's racist," said Donna Sanchez, a 22-year-old U.S. citizen living in Chicago whose parents illegally crossed the Mexican border. "I have papers, but I want to help those who don't."
anchor babies need to be sent home too. just because your parents managed to get you born while on US soil doesn't mean you have a right to be here when they did it all illegally...and more than likely at tax payers expense[Rant1]
"A congressman was among 35 people arrested during a protestat the White House. U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., was taking part in a civil disobedience demonstration."
More and more of our elected officials showing their ignorance to the law...
"The event resembled something between a family festival - food vendors strolled through with pushcarts - and a political demonstration with protesters chanting "Si se puede," Spanish for "Yes we can." A group of undocumented students stood on a stage at the Chicago park and "came out" regarding their immigration status."
They should have been arrested under federal law on the spot and deported.
"Juan Haro, 80, was born and raised in Denver, where about 3,000 people rallied. He said he thinks Arizona's new law targets Mexicans.
"This country doesn't seem to be anti-immigrant," said Haro, whose family is originally from Mexico. "It seems to be anti-Mexican."
The race card seems to get tossed our like nobodys business....maybe they don't realize that mexicans are make up the brunt of illegal immigrants since they just have to walk over the border. they do that and then think they have a right to be here.
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/anger-over-arizona-law-sends-thousands-into-the-streets/19461398
"It's racist," said Donna Sanchez, a 22-year-old U.S. citizen living in Chicago whose parents illegally crossed the Mexican border. "I have papers, but I want to help those who don't."
anchor babies need to be sent home too. just because your parents managed to get you born while on US soil doesn't mean you have a right to be here when they did it all illegally...and more than likely at tax payers expense[Rant1]
"A congressman was among 35 people arrested during a protestat the White House. U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., was taking part in a civil disobedience demonstration."
More and more of our elected officials showing their ignorance to the law...
"The event resembled something between a family festival - food vendors strolled through with pushcarts - and a political demonstration with protesters chanting "Si se puede," Spanish for "Yes we can." A group of undocumented students stood on a stage at the Chicago park and "came out" regarding their immigration status."
They should have been arrested under federal law on the spot and deported.
"Juan Haro, 80, was born and raised in Denver, where about 3,000 people rallied. He said he thinks Arizona's new law targets Mexicans.
"This country doesn't seem to be anti-immigrant," said Haro, whose family is originally from Mexico. "It seems to be anti-Mexican."
The race card seems to get tossed our like nobodys business....maybe they don't realize that mexicans are make up the brunt of illegal immigrants since they just have to walk over the border. they do that and then think they have a right to be here.
+1[Beer]
Jumpstart
05-02-2010, 05:51
It's simple, if you've done what you are asked and followed our laws they wouldn't have created this problem for themselves and Americans. First thing that needs to be done is take away all "carrots" starting with "jackpot citizenship" for anchor babies born from illegal aliens. This is has been a blatant abuse of the 14th Amendment, which was intended to give slaves citizenship.
Illegal immigration needs to end and that means enforcing the law. I also think it is past time for a moratorium on legal immigration from third world and developing nations, especially Mexico and Latin/South America.
Mexico's immigration law states they will maintain their demograhics, the USA needs to do the same.
Jumpstart
05-02-2010, 05:53
Oh, I also wore my Phoenix Suns T-Shirt and bought Arizona Iced Tea yesterday. Yeah, yeah I know, I'm racist.
Trying to bait Stu Jumpstart?
Jumpstart
05-02-2010, 06:20
No. lol. Well maybe......
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/anger-over-arizona-law-sends-thousands-into-the-streets/19461398
"It's racist," said Donna Sanchez, a 22-year-old U.S. citizen living in Chicago whose parents illegally crossed the Mexican border. "I have papers, but I want to help those who don't."
anchor babies need to be sent home too. just because your parents managed to get you born while on US soil doesn't mean you have a right to be here when they did it all illegally...and more than likely at tax payers expense[Rant1]
"A congressman was among 35 people arrested during a protestat the White House. U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., was taking part in a civil disobedience demonstration."
More and more of our elected officials showing their ignorance to the law...
"The event resembled something between a family festival - food vendors strolled through with pushcarts - and a political demonstration with protesters chanting "Si se puede," Spanish for "Yes we can." A group of undocumented students stood on a stage at the Chicago park and "came out" regarding their immigration status."
They should have been arrested under federal law on the spot and deported.
"Juan Haro, 80, was born and raised in Denver, where about 3,000 people rallied. He said he thinks Arizona's new law targets Mexicans.
"This country doesn't seem to be anti-immigrant," said Haro, whose family is originally from Mexico. "It seems to be anti-Mexican."
The race card seems to get tossed our like nobodys business....maybe they don't realize that mexicans are make up the brunt of illegal immigrants since they just have to walk over the border. they do that and then think they have a right to be here.
I have stated before, perhaps not here but elsewhere, that the race card is increasingly irrelevant. The race card gets tossed for the most insignificant things and that diminishes the value of the race card.
This law is not anti-immigrant, this law is anti-ILLEGAL immigrant.
In my view people who support illegal immigration and illegal immigrants are guilty of aiding and abetting the murders of Donnie Young, Robert Krentz, Marten Kudlis, Patricia Guntharp, Debra Serecky, and a host of other innocents.
+1 Sniper, especially the students who "came out". You have to be kidding me right "We're here illegally and draining your education system and tax dollars and proud of it" they should be treated like I mentioned in the other thread:
http://www.naturelich.com/archives/images/trebuchet.jpg
Back to Mexico with thee
Why can't immigration services be present at these demonstrations?
We know where they all are so just go and get them and deport them.
I'm here legally so I have no sympathy for illegals! What really irritates me about them is they come here, are basically leeches then have their own little sub-cultures!
Here's an idea, a bonus is offered to every immigration official based on how many illegals they deport!
It isn't cheap to get a visa and green card but if you want it badly enough.......
Why can't immigration services be present at these demonstrations?
We know where they all are so just go and get them and deport them.
I'm here legally so I have no sympathy for illegals! What really irritates me about them is they come here, are basically leeches then have their own little sub-cultures!
Here's an idea, a bonus is offered to every immigration official based on how many illegals they deport!
It isn't cheap to get a visa and green card but if you want it badly enough.......
I was wondering the same thing. where in the hell is ICE at to take these fuckers away when they hop up on stage. i guess they fear for personal safety, but I thought that is what pepper spray and rubber bullets and tear gas and if necessary firearms are for? They broke the law, at the rallies they admit to breaking the law, but no enforcement. just another problem the feds have created.
I work with quite a few legal immigrants who have gone through the process, done everything required of them, work hard, pay their taxes and enjoy a good quality of life. I admire these people for their hard work on coming to the US and working hard to live the american dream, not hop the border, pop out a kid and expect to get to stay with handouts and benefits. that shit just sends me over the edge.
I was wondering the same thing. where in the hell is ICE at to take these fuckers away when they hop up on stage. They are still driving the illegals up in Massechusetts back to their jobs...and playing the video games they confiscated from those high school kid drug dealers....
i guess they fear for personal safety, but I thought that is what pepper spray and rubber bullets and tear gas and if necessary firearms are for?
Used to be... not much in use anymore for all the lawsuits, etc. It doesn't matter anymore who brakes the law... the SC has seen to that.
They broke the law, at the rallies they admit to breaking the law, but no enforcement. just another problem the feds have created. Simple solution that no one will do. Shoot on sight at crossings. Ones already in town, detain, prove illegality and shoot. Deportation costs too much... Zero tolerance used to mean something.
I know, I know... I'm a hard assed, calloused indivudal who just wants to shoot everyone and everything...
I have stated before, perhaps not here but elsewhere, that the race card is increasingly irrelevant. The race card gets tossed for the most insignificant things and that diminishes the value of the race card.
I agree completely. "Wolf" is cried constantly over everything and anything these days. Many people don't waste their time listening to it anymore. Especially when racial supremacist organizations like La Raza are involved...
La Raza, Racist?? No, tell me it aint so.. The media tells me they are pillars of the community...
I was wondering the same thing. where in the hell is ICE at to take these fuckers away when they hop up on stage. i guess they fear for personal safety, but I thought that is what pepper spray and rubber bullets and tear gas and if necessary firearms are for? They broke the law, at the rallies they admit to breaking the law, but no enforcement. just another problem the feds have created.
Because you know that they'd much rather do a no-knock raid in the middle of the night. Joke is on them though, when they remember that no one they are after has a fixed place of residence and they missed their opportunity back at the rally.
KevDen2005
05-03-2010, 15:49
Because you know that they'd much rather do a no-knock raid in the middle of the night. Joke is on them though, when they remember that no one they are after has a fixed place of residence and they missed their opportunity back at the rally.
Just food for thought on the middle of the night "no-knock"...
I along with a few other officers got a call by ICE saying they were doing a raid and wanted uniformed officer presence there. We showed up at 5:30 A.M, the raid set for 6:00 A.M. It took about 5-10 minutes to do all the pleasantries and the what was going on stuff, then we were standing around. Finally after about 2 minutes someone said, "Okay, are we going to go?" The ICE agent specifically told us they were not allowed to kick the door before 6:00 A.M. due to policy.
I am hoping there is ICE agent on here to defend what this guys said, but that is exactly what he said...
Jumpstart
05-03-2010, 16:24
Just food for thought on the middle of the night "no-knock"...
I am hoping there is ICE agent on here to defend what this guys said, but that is exactly what he said...
Do those guys even have free time? I know an ICE agent in Casa Grande Arizona, he works 14-16 hours per day 6-7 days a week, but that is Arizona of course. We only have half a million illegals in Colorado so maybe they have som free time here.....
I have a sign on my door stating NO NO-KNOCK RAIDS TILL AFTER 8:00am.
ChunkyMonkey
05-03-2010, 16:41
Do those guys even have free time? I know an ICE agent in Casa Grande Arizona, he works 14-16 hours per day 6-7 days a week, but that is Arizona of course. We only have half a million illegals in Colorado so maybe they have som free time here.....
It's called milking! I go shoot with a couple ICE and they have pretty good timetable.
As far as the raid after 6:00am, I heard about that from a DRO out of Chicago. They usually show up around 5-5:30 and waited.
Oh man, I want that sign.
Troublco
05-03-2010, 17:36
I still think, ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL. Period. No jackpot babies, no more suckin' the government teat.
Jumpstart
05-03-2010, 18:08
It's called milking! I go shoot with a couple ICE and they have pretty good timetable.
.
Firstly thank your ICE friends, then ask them if they would like to work the Casa Grande sector...
ChunkyMonkey
05-03-2010, 18:09
Firstly thank your ICE friends, then ask them if they would like to work the Casa Grande sector...
Yeah right... one of them dated an illegal BUT HOT HOT mexican girl! [ROFL1] Broken system I tell ya!
I have a sign on my door stating NO NO-KNOCK RAIDS TILL AFTER 8:00am.
[ROFL1]
I am going to make one:
please knock before any no-knock raids, and no soliciting.
One of the frustrating things about illegal’s is that most of them work real hard and do the crappy jobs most Americans refuse to do.
However that being said I still say deport them all!
As for the no-knock raids before 0600. You know it’s just a matter of time before some liberal idiot files a law suit claiming before 0600 violates their right to sleep or some other BS.
One of the frustrating things about illegal’s is that most of them work real hard and do the crappy jobs most Americans refuse to do.
I don't like that statement. Americans don't refuse to do the job, they just want to be justly compesated. No one wants to go crawl around in sewers and vaults for minimum wage, but the contracters/etc see a way to save money and they hire the cheapest labor which happens to be illegals. Americans would do the job with fair compesation, etc....
bellavite1
05-04-2010, 08:35
I immigrated from Italy 10 years ago.
Decided I wanted to stay.
Went through the whole immigration deal.
I am a voting citizen now.
It can be done.
Nobody said it would be easy, but I am happily living in a country that somebody else built for me , with blood sweat and tears.
The least I can do to show gratitude and respect is go by the law, speak the language (ENGLISH) and be a part of the community (as in CITIZEN).
As far as stereotypes go, there's always some truth in them.
Yes, I am Italian.
Yes, my name is Luigi.
Yes, my dad's name is Guido.
Yes, I even know some Marios.
And yes, I like pizza, pasta and being romantic to my wife.
It is not a stereotype or racism.
It is just the way it is.
I don't cry outrage when I watch the Sopranos, hell I like the show!
If Latinos don't want to be stereotyped or profiled they need to start cleaning up their own house.
Until then, if you are too lazy to do things legally,
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE![Rant1]
mmmmhmmm.... pizza...... is it lunch time yet?
I went to Italy for a gig once (same trip that I went to Ireland on) and I must say, Italy is a gorgeous and fun place. I love walking around in forgien street markets in villages outside of "big city tourist trap" areas. It's a whole different atmosphere.
As a sidebar, I bet I have more stamps in my passport than 90% of people on the board! And I'm just a young gun! lol.
HBARleatherneck
05-04-2010, 09:03
i have been to 22 countries. but only stamps for 6. i think i got ripped off.
no, wait. when you travel armed and with a hundreds of other armed men, they dont seem to ask for the passport
when you travel armed and with a hundreds of other armed men, they dont seem to ask for the passport
Touche! lol, 22 though? I believe I still may have you beat! That is close though... I'll have to go back and count. And no, two trips to the same country at different times do NOT count... so you can't count 3 tours to the sandbox as 3 trips (even though physically they are).
HBARleatherneck
05-04-2010, 09:18
i wasnt counting double trips. i know there are alot of people who have been to alot more countries than me. and alot of the countries i went to sucked.
Rgr that, 22 then. I'll definitely have to pull mine out tonight and count!! I hope I still have them all, been through a few....
"No coppers, you can't have 'em! *evil laugh* HAHAHAHA."
I immigrated from Italy 10 years ago.
Decided I wanted to stay.
Went through the whole immigration deal.
I am a voting citizen now.
It can be done.
Nobody said it would be easy, but I am happily living in a country that somebody else built for me , with blood sweat and tears.
The least I can do to show gratitude and respect is go by the law, speak the language (ENGLISH) and be a part of the community (as in CITIZEN).
As far as stereotypes go, there's always some truth in them.
Yes, I am Italian.
Yes, my name is Luigi.
Yes, my dad's name is Guido.
Yes, I even know some Marios.
And yes, I like pizza, pasta and being romantic to my wife.
It is not a stereotype or racism.
It is just the way it is.
I don't cry outrage when I watch the Sopranos, hell I like the show!
If Latinos don't want to be stereotyped or profiled they need to start cleaning up their own house.
Until then, if you are too lazy to do things legally,
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE![Rant1]
amazing post! You are exactly like a a few of the guys I work with. They have immigrated over legally from Spain, Mexico, Canada, England, Ireland and all great hardworking people, I can easily tell you are exactly the same and value the country! Glad to have you![Beer]
HBARleatherneck
05-04-2010, 09:40
my grandmother immigrated from England right after WW2. she still hasnt learned our language. she stills says things like silly bugger, bloody. But, She did do it legal and she flies the US flag everyday in front of her house on a 20 foot tall pole. and has as long as I can remember.
KevDen2005
05-04-2010, 09:49
I immigrated from Italy 10 years ago.
Decided I wanted to stay.
Went through the whole immigration deal.
I am a voting citizen now.
It can be done.
Nobody said it would be easy, but I am happily living in a country that somebody else built for me , with blood sweat and tears.
The least I can do to show gratitude and respect is go by the law, speak the language (ENGLISH) and be a part of the community (as in CITIZEN).
As far as stereotypes go, there's always some truth in them.
Yes, I am Italian.
Yes, my name is Luigi.
Yes, my dad's name is Guido.
Yes, I even know some Marios.
And yes, I like pizza, pasta and being romantic to my wife.
It is not a stereotype or racism.
It is just the way it is.
I don't cry outrage when I watch the Sopranos, hell I like the show!
If Latinos don't want to be stereotyped or profiled they need to start cleaning up their own house.
Until then, if you are too lazy to do things legally,
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE![Rant1]
Would you call the process hard or just time consuming?
I have a couple friends from Ireland that didn't say it was that hard just a lot of time and a lot of tasks
bellavite1
05-04-2010, 12:12
Probably just time consuming.
In my case it took the best part of 4 years, with repeated interviews for me and my wife, medical exams, paperwork to get from Italy etc.
I guess it varies from person to person.
But it is well worth it.
I am not ashamed to say that at the end of it all, at my naturalization ceremony, I could not help tearing up.
MichiganMilitia
05-04-2010, 13:17
I immigrated from Italy 10 years ago.
Decided I wanted to stay.
Went through the whole immigration deal.
I am a voting citizen now.
It can be done.
Nobody said it would be easy, but I am happily living in a country that somebody else built for me , with blood sweat and tears.
The least I can do to show gratitude and respect is go by the law, speak the language (ENGLISH) and be a part of the community (as in CITIZEN).
As far as stereotypes go, there's always some truth in them.
Yes, I am Italian.
Yes, my name is Luigi.
Yes, my dad's name is Guido.
Yes, I even know some Marios.
And yes, I like pizza, pasta and being romantic to my wife.
It is not a stereotype or racism.
It is just the way it is.
I don't cry outrage when I watch the Sopranos, hell I like the show!
If Latinos don't want to be stereotyped or profiled they need to start cleaning up their own house.
Until then, if you are too lazy to do things legally,
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE![Rant1]
This is full of WIN! [Beer]
This is full of WIN! [Beer]
This^ for sure.. now can we sit down and mangia, I bet you have some excellent recipes from the homeland you could share[Dinner]
One of the frustrating things about illegal’s is that most of them work real hard and do the crappy jobs most Americans refuse to do.
Thats total liberal talking point B.S.
They are jobs the wellfare babies wont do not jobs working Americans wont do.
Stoping paying out all this welfare and extended unemployeement benfits and you will have lines of people waiting to take the jobs.
Its about motivation, give someone motivation not to work and they wont work. It's really that damn simple.
Thats total liberal talking point B.S.
They are jobs the wellfare babies wont do not jobs working Americans wont do.
Stoping paying out all this welfare and extended unemployeement benfits and you will have lines of people waiting to take the jobs.
Its about motivation, give someone motivation not to work and they wont work. It's really that damn simple.
AMEN and +1mil x infinity. [Beer]
theGinsue
05-04-2010, 13:49
I immigrated from Italy 10 years ago.
Decided I wanted to stay.
Went through the whole immigration deal.
I am a voting citizen now.
It can be done.
Nobody said it would be easy, but I am happily living in a country that somebody else built for me , with blood sweat and tears.
The least I can do to show gratitude and respect is go by the law, speak the language (ENGLISH) and be a part of the community (as in CITIZEN).
As far as stereotypes go, there's always some truth in them.
Yes, I am Italian.
Yes, my name is Luigi.
Yes, my dad's name is Guido.
Yes, I even know some Marios.
And yes, I like pizza, pasta and being romantic to my wife.
It is not a stereotype or racism.
It is just the way it is.
I don't cry outrage when I watch the Sopranos, hell I like the show!
If Latinos don't want to be stereotyped or profiled they need to start cleaning up their own house.
Until then, if you are too lazy to do things legally,
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE![Rant1]
THANK YOU for your post! ^^^ This is what it's (immigration) supposed to be about. And, as much as I have no issues with Italians, if we had "X" million Italians crossing the border into the U.S. illegally every year, I would certainly have an issue.
I'm glad to were able to make the system work for you. I know it wasn't easy. I also appreciate that while I'm sure that you are very proud of your heritage, you have adopted the language, customs and culture of your new home nation and become a member of OUR community instead of expecting us to adjust to your customs, etc.
Now, I have to comment on the deal with yours and your fathers names and the other things you mentioned.... Given what you've told us, you could be a poster child for all of the stereotypes Americans have for Italians. That's some funny stuff!
One last thing : Since Italians have talk with their hands, how can you type? [ROFL1]
This^ for sure.. now can we sit down and mangia, I bet you have some excellent recipes from the homeland you could share[Dinner]
Oh heck yeah!
cowboykjohnson
05-04-2010, 13:52
I immigrated from Italy 10 years ago.
Decided I wanted to stay.
Went through the whole immigration deal.
I am a voting citizen now.
It can be done.
Nobody said it would be easy, but I am happily living in a country that somebody else built for me , with blood sweat and tears.
The least I can do to show gratitude and respect is go by the law, speak the language (ENGLISH) and be a part of the community (as in CITIZEN).
As far as stereotypes go, there's always some truth in them.
Yes, I am Italian.
Yes, my name is Luigi.
Yes, my dad's name is Guido.
Yes, I even know some Marios.
And yes, I like pizza, pasta and being romantic to my wife.
It is not a stereotype or racism.
It is just the way it is.
I don't cry outrage when I watch the Sopranos, hell I like the show!
If Latinos don't want to be stereotyped or profiled they need to start cleaning up their own house.
Until then, if you are too lazy to do things legally,
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE![Rant1]
AWESOME statement!! [Beer]
I immigrated from Italy 10 years ago.
Dude! Can you get your hands on a genuine Italian 9 inch automatic OTF switchblade stilletto... in all black of course so it can be tacticoool... lol
I'll be waiting by the mailbox.... thxs!
[Beer] [M2]
bellavite1
05-04-2010, 14:02
THANK YOU for your post! ^^^ This is what it's (immigration) supposed to be about. And, as much as I have no issues with Italians, if we had "X" million Italians crossing the border into the U.S. illegally every year, I would certainly have an issue.
I'm glad to were able to make the system work for you. I know it wasn't easy. I also appreciate that while I'm sure that you are very proud of your heritage, you have adopted the language, customs and culture of your new home nation and become a member of OUR community instead of expecting us to adjust to your customs, etc.
Now, I have to comment on the deal with yours and your fathers names and the other things you mentioned.... Given what you've told us, you could be a poster child for all of the stereotypes Americans have for Italians. That's some funny stuff!
One last thing : Since Italians have talk with their hands, how can you type? [ROFL1]
Good Lord you served this to me on a silver platter...
Yeah, if I am busy talking with my hands I can still type:
you'd be amazed at what a motivated Italian can do with his appendages...
[Beer]
you'd be amazed at what a motivated Italian can do with his appendages...
THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!!!!!!!!! [ROFL1][ROFL2][ROFL3][LOL]
theGinsue
05-04-2010, 14:24
Good Lord you served this to me on a silver platter...
Yeah, if I am busy talking with my hands I can still type:
you'd be amazed at what a motivated Italian can do with his appendages...
[Beer]
You know, I wondered if you'd catch that "loophole" in the question! [Coffee]
Bellavite, what do you think of Jersey Shore?
KevDen2005
05-04-2010, 16:46
Probably just time consuming.
In my case it took the best part of 4 years, with repeated interviews for me and my wife, medical exams, paperwork to get from Italy etc.
I guess it varies from person to person.
But it is well worth it.
I am not ashamed to say that at the end of it all, at my naturalization ceremony, I could not help tearing up.
Awesome man, glad to have people like you here that have truly worked for their citizenship and didn't just take the free handout. Thanks again for sharing that information
[quote=Ed_S;201824]One of the frustrating things about illegal’s is that most of them work real hard and do the crappy jobs most Americans refuse to do.
However that being said I still say deport them all!
Guess the first part offended a couple of folks! Which is kind of funny with my second statement!
Liberal, I think not!
If I had my way you could only have welfare for a fixed period then after that you have to get your lazy fat ass up and get a job, even if it's picking strawberries.
bellavite1
05-04-2010, 19:57
Bellavite, what do you think of Jersey Shore?
My wife loves it.
I guess it's better than having a wife the likes Oprha (or whatever her name is).
Lots of young guys chasing pussy.
What's wrong with that?[Dunno]
Imo the argument that illegals do jobs Americans won't is 100% BS.
Illegals do jobs that Americans won't for below minimum wage, and pay no taxes on it.
If you PAY someone to do the work, especially in this economic climate, there will be an American citizen that will do the work, whatever it is, guaranteed. But sorry, not for $4 an hour.
Ya, if you pay more for labor, you have to charge more, but then when the money isn't mailed to mexico every week, people in your area also have a lot more to spend, so it's a damn good thing if fruit costs 50% more because your unemployment rate is then about 2% and the money being invested into local economies is about 2x (FPOOMA) -- figure pulled out of my $$$
I have yet to see illegals working on high tension lines, dangerious jobs like in the lumber industry, or working as RN's manually dis-impacting bowels. I fail to see why American's would not want to pick fruit, if they were paid for it. I'd like to see an illegal willing to grab poop out of a persons rear.
huge +1
they do jobs that are extremely small task, very simple, mostly outside (easy to run I guess), and cheap labor.
a tractor and a few implements are easy replacements. but since a tractor can break down, and 50 illegals can get replaced in no time and no insurance is required to get paid, the farmers that employ them figure their total overall cost is reduced, probably significantly.
denval420
05-04-2010, 20:17
people from Mexico do shop at Mexican owned company's like avanza they do not know it is a American owned company,that does charge them a extra 10% of there bill which they pay for in food stamps.oh wait they don't care its not there money it is ours the taxpayer what the f[Bang][Bang][Rant1][Rant2]
Dang I wasn’t discussing the economic ramifications just that that the little buggers work hard.
Like I said before if I had my way I send them all home and ideally have a shoot to kill policy for all the little buggers hopping across the border.
The bottom line is:
We make it too easy for them to get and stay here,
We make it too easy for BFF’s to be on welfare,
Too many people expect to make big $ for no education and/or skill set.
As for being a liberal, do you see any ‘I voted for Obama’ comments? Also I don’t drive a Prius, live in Boulder, wear sandals or have a beard!
ChunkyMonkey
05-04-2010, 20:40
When you said we.. you meant them libs?
When you said we.. you meant them libs?
Yup, we as in the liberals.
Dang I wasn’t discussing the economic ramifications just that that the little buggers work hard.
Like I said before if I had my way I send them all home and ideally have a shoot to kill policy for all the little buggers hopping across the border.
The bottom line is:
We make it too easy for them to get and stay here,
We make it too easy for BFF’s to be on welfare,
Too many people expect to make big $ for no education and/or skill set.
As for being a liberal, do you see any ‘I voted for Obama’ comments? Also I don’t drive a Prius, live in Boulder, wear sandals or have a beard!
hey hey now...Chris Costa and Chuck Norris have beards[Tooth]
Roofing is one potentially high(er) paying industry that has a lot of illegals in it.
ChunkyMonkey
05-05-2010, 09:51
The roofer companies make tons off insurance. The illegals are there because their labor are dirt cheap (for a roofer).
funkfool
05-05-2010, 09:56
Roofing is one potentially high(er) paying industry that has a lot of illegals in it.
I had my roof done two years ago and contracted with a local roofing company.
The day arrived and so did 3 nice 4x4 trucks with 10 hispanics and my roof was done in one day.
Didn't get a chance to talk to any but the first guy as I left for work - he spoke broken english - I did leave a cooler full of water and soda out... there were only a couple gone when I came home.
Were they illegal?
Who knows..
Did they do a good job...
Pretty much.
Did they have nice vehicles - yes.
Conclusions:
Um... I got a roof?
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