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ChunkyMonkey
05-02-2010, 11:20
10 pirates hijacked the vessel, but the crew managed to retreat to a safe-room. So NL MARSOF could carry out an opposed boarding, without any hazzard for the crew. The video is chronological; with the commander explaining where they are: helo, landing on the front, approaching the bridge, arresting 6 pirates on the first deck, another 2 on the back, and the last two just below the bridge. Clever pirates never used their guns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcqZKBJMNhI&feature=player_embedded

From mp.net

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8171/dsc35722customtcm461536.jpg

Elhuero
05-02-2010, 12:26
I would have enjoyed the video more if at the end they had lined up all the priates at the stern, and given them a stern lecture.


Then tied them to something heavy and sent them to the bottom.

ChunkyMonkey
05-02-2010, 12:32
I would have enjoyed the video more if at the end they had lined up all the priates at the stern, and given them a stern lecture.


Then tied them to something heavy and sent them to the bottom.

The ops had to behave due to the cam.

sniper7
05-02-2010, 16:19
pretty cool to see a little bit of what goes on during something like that. I would have liked to see more fish bait produced as well, but at least they got them all and the good guys didn't get hurt (or at least what i could tell from the video)

275RLTW
05-04-2010, 22:07
Sloppy work....very unprofessional VBSS. At least the pirates didn't initiate fire or it could have turned into a media nightmare and fuel for those who do not approve of re-taking the ships by force.

gnihcraes
05-04-2010, 22:31
VBSS translation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visit,_Board,_Search,_and_Seizure

ChunkyMonkey
05-04-2010, 22:35
Sloppy work....very unprofessional VBSS. At least the pirates didn't initiate fire or it could have turned into a media nightmare and fuel for those who do not approve of re-taking the ships by force.


How? Explain if you could... thanks

275RLTW
05-06-2010, 15:19
1) roping out of Mh-60 on same side as door gunner= loss of supporting
fire.
2) inefficient fast roping techniques
3) engaging cabin of vesel without cover (sitting in the open and shooting)
4) No appearent plan on how to get off the top of the conex containers
5) point man is point, no where else. someone else checks the sides/windows/rooms, etc...
6) if someone else is handling a problem (ie threat, prisoner, hostage, whatever), let them handle it and stay focused on your job. They are relying on you with their lives to do that.
7) speed, suprise, and violence of action.....don't have a conversation with the pirates; shoot them, detain them, do something!
8) when a potential threat is coming down the stairs, keep your gun on him! he's still a threat until searched and detained.
9) missed coffin corners upon entry into bridge
10) in confined spaces use your secondary firearm instead of your rifle. (your teammate caught on to this, why didn't you?)


there's a start...all rookie mistakes and lack of proper planning, rehearsals, and training. It would have been a nightmare if they were under fire at any time during this....

BigBear
05-06-2010, 15:45
1) roping out of Mh-60 on same side as door gunner= loss of supporting
fire.
2) inefficient fast roping techniques
3) engaging cabin of vesel without cover (sitting in the open and shooting)
4) No appearent plan on how to get off the top of the conex containers
5) point man is point, no where else. someone else checks the sides/windows/rooms, etc...
6) if someone else is handling a problem (ie threat, prisoner, hostage, whatever), let them handle it and stay focused on your job. They are relying on you with their lives to do that.
7) speed, suprise, and violence of action.....don't have a conversation with the pirates; shoot them, detain them, do something!
8) when a potential threat is coming down the stairs, keep your gun on him! he's still a threat until searched and detained.
9) missed coffin corners upon entry into bridge
10) in confined spaces use your secondary firearm instead of your rifle. (your teammate caught on to this, why didn't you?)


there's a start...all rookie mistakes and lack of proper planning, rehearsals, and training. It would have been a nightmare if they were under fire at any time during this....

Yes Sir, I do like the way you observe.

Irving
05-06-2010, 15:55
I'm impressed coloccw.

ChunkyMonkey
05-06-2010, 16:21
Reason I asked, because one of them is bragging on mp.net -- will forward this with your permission.. [ROFL1]

275RLTW
05-06-2010, 18:16
Anyone bragging about their exploits is certainly not a professional and everyone will see right through that. My critique of their actions is based upon what limited (although very conclusive) views available and could possibly be wrong; I don't have all of the pieces to be thorough. I'm sure that the footage is being eval'ed by others and my imput will only be looked on as that of an armchair general by someone who appears to be bragging about it online. You can do with the critique as you like as I believe that it will fall on deaf ears.

clublights
05-07-2010, 04:59
1) roping out of Mh-60 on same side as door gunner= loss of supporting
fire.


In their defense....

It's a Westland Lynx not a MH-60. I believe the navalized version ( just like a SH-60B) has only the starboard door the other is removed due to the sonobouy ejector racks on the port side of the aircraft.

275RLTW
05-07-2010, 15:59
My mistake. It's difficult to keep track of the many variants of -60's out there. Either way, support and insertion aircraft shoud be different to facilitate the boarding team's insertion and provide for cas-evac until mission competion. Similar to typical bounding overwatch movement techniques.

BadShot
05-07-2010, 18:11
Oiy... regardless of the fractional information based critique, at least there are military actions being taken out in that neck of the woods (or ocean perse') and not a peace-nik tolerance of the pirate actions.

As for the reset, eh, fair fundamental assessment, but as noted, there is a distinct lack of the full picture. I haven't bailed out of a helicopter in a long damn time and I sure as hell haven't had to board and clear a ship, so I will refrain from passing judgment on the guys out on the sharp end.