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denvernative321
05-04-2010, 03:39
A handgun is not considered concealed if it is in the possession of a person who is in a private automobile or other private means of conveyance who is carrying it for a legal use, or the handgun is in the possession of a person who is legally engaged in hunting activities within the state.




Does this mean I can carry a handgun in my car without CCW?

Marlin
05-04-2010, 03:49
To my understanding, Your car is considered an extension of your home thus, Yes.

Elhuero
05-04-2010, 04:30
yup and if you get pulled over it's best to show it to them ASAP.

grab the gun, jump out of the car, hold the gun up and yell "look I have a gun!"








[Tooth]


im kidding dont do that

Glock Shooter
05-04-2010, 07:00
A handgun is not considered concealed if it is in the possession of a person who is in a private automobile or other private means of conveyance who is carrying it for a legal use, or the handgun is in the possession of a person who is legally engaged in hunting activities within the state.

Does this mean I can carry a handgun in my car without CCW?

To answer your question without sarcasm(although I really like sarcasm) a Car is an extension of your home and you may carry concealed. In regards to being pulled over by an LEO, please remember they are only doing their job, and a hard one at that. Keep your hands on the steering wheel and calmly let the LEO know you are in legal possession of a firearm. If there are any LEO's who feel differently please chime in.

theGinsue
05-04-2010, 07:25
Agreed. It's better to tell them up front to avoid the potential issues of them seeing the grip sticking out from under the seat, etc.

I see that you didn't ask about concealed carry while hunting. This typically assumes that you are visibly carrying a rifle, but you are also carrying a handgun under your coat.

M2MG
05-04-2010, 09:18
yup and if you get pulled over it's best to show it to them ASAP.

grab the gun, jump out of the car, hold the gun up and yell "look I have a gun!"








[Tooth]


im kidding dont do that


You forgot to add yelling out, "You'll never take me alive copper"











Just kidding too, don't take this as advise.

M2MG

sniper7
05-04-2010, 09:28
You forgot to add yelling out, "You'll never take me alive copper"











Just kidding too, don't take this as advise.

M2MG


you guys will be getting a phone call the next time i get pulled over![ROFL2]

KevDen2005
05-04-2010, 09:52
A handgun is not considered concealed if it is in the possession of a person who is in a private automobile or other private means of conveyance who is carrying it for a legal use, or the handgun is in the possession of a person who is legally engaged in hunting activities within the state.




Does this mean I can carry a handgun in my car without CCW?


Yes, loaded, one in the chamber, anywhere in your car including on you, just don't get out of your car concealed if you don't have a CCW

jim02
05-04-2010, 10:10
Yes, loaded, one in the chamber, anywhere in your car including on you, just don't get out of your car concealed if you don't have a CCW


This is correct, take special note, if you step foot out of your car, your ilegal. In your car & on your motorcycle is legal without a ccw as long as you dont dismount the motorcycle or step out of your car. You can carry concealed on any private property you have recieved permission from the owner to do so as well.
According to my CCW class when we covered the subject and how I read the law.

Irving
05-04-2010, 11:10
Personally, I don't say anything unless asked directly, or asked to get out of the vehicle. That's just me though.

Not_A_Llama
05-04-2010, 13:01
You forgot to add yelling out, "You'll never take me alive copper"

Just kidding too, don't take this as advise.

M2MG

Personally, I'm fond of "I ain't neva goin back!"

rhineoshott
05-04-2010, 14:03
I've been working on a pocket Colorado firearm guide. My advice, from the concealed carry inside vehicle without permit:

That's a good idea! Lookin forward to it.

Drilldo
05-04-2010, 14:14
I've been working on a pocket Colorado firearm guide. My advice, from the concealed carry inside vehicle without permit:

Excellent idea. You probably have done this already. But adding C.R.S.' in each section which cover the laws pertaining to the subject would be a great help.

rondog
05-04-2010, 15:01
Excellent idea. You probably have done this already. But adding C.R.S.' in each section which cover the laws pertaining to the subject would be a great help.

Probably wouldn't hurt to have it scoured by legal eagles for accuracy, too. You don't want to be putting out a booklet with inaccurate info in it. I'm sure most cops will look on such a booklet with disdain anyway, if it's not a "state issued" document.

gnihcraes
05-04-2010, 15:11
download the CCW guide and application from Elpaso County's website, it covers most things you need without having to re-do it all again...

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&ved=0CAkQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fshr.elpasoco.com%2FNR%2Frdonlyres %2FB999F2B8-570B-42A8-9B0B-6109DB267BB8%2F0%2FConcealedHandgunPermitInfoAppli cationPacket011309.pdf&rct=j&q=ConcealedHandgunPermitInfoApplicationPacket01130 9.pdf&ei=lY3gS5HmCIKAsgPwiaS5BQ&usg=AFQjCNFGlV7g2rLKup_K9B875xVegkgQTQ

Irving
05-04-2010, 15:13
That sounds like a better plan than saying, "Go get your little book and I'll show you the law myself."

I'd like to add to foxtrot's point that it is important to notify the officer if there is a chance of him/her seeing it.

Drilldo
05-04-2010, 16:44
That sounds like a better plan than saying, "Go get your little book and I'll show you the law myself."

I'd like to add to foxtrot's point that it is important to notify the officer if there is a chance of him/her seeing it.

Who said anything about showing them the law? Adding a C.R.S. to the book only enables the Permit holder to understand the law.

KevDen2005
05-04-2010, 16:44
Personally, I don't say anything unless asked directly, or asked to get out of the vehicle. That's just me though.

As a general rule of thumb (seems like I am using that term a lot lately) I would say don't say or say, it's really up to you, I ALWAYS appreciate it when someone tells me straight out or hands me there CCW with their license when I ask for their stuff. It makes me feel better about the attitude amongst CCW holders, their respect for and cooperation with law enforcement, and the fact they want me to know for both of our safeties. Truly appreciated.

I guess, back to my rule of thumb, is whether you have CCW or Not, or Carrying anything or not, don't reach places the officer wouldn't want you to or be suspicious of, especially if you are reaching under a seat or something like that before the officer gets out of his/her car and sudden movements in general make me nervous....we all know what happens after that, usually

MichiganMilitia
05-04-2010, 17:17
As a general rule of thumb (seems like I am using that term a lot lately) I would say don't say or say, it's really up to you, I ALWAYS appreciate it when someone tells me straight out or hands me there CCW with their license when I ask for their stuff. It makes me feel better about the attitude amongst CCW holders, their respect for and cooperation with law enforcement, and the fact they want me to know for both of our safeties. Truly appreciated.

I guess, back to my rule of thumb, is whether you have CCW or Not, or Carrying anything or not, don't reach places the officer wouldn't want you to or be suspicious of, especially if you are reaching under a seat or something like that before the officer gets out of his/her car and sudden movements in general make me nervous....we all know what happens after that, usually

Thank you for your input. Ideally there would be no reason to be wary about revealing your possession of a firearm, but in this day and age, it seems like Big Brother is always watching and personally, I don't like being watched. [Mad]

funkfool
05-04-2010, 17:35
That sounds like a better plan than saying, "Go get your little book and I'll show you the law myself."

I'd like to add to foxtrot's point that it is important to notify the officer if there is a chance of him/her seeing it.
Yep - If you have to go into the glovebox for 'your papers' - notify him.

denvernative321
05-04-2010, 18:46
holy crap 3 pages worth of replies!!!!!! Thanks guys for all the info.

Troublco
05-04-2010, 21:56
Actually, I believe the actual wording is "Personal mode of conveyance". Somewhere, I have a copy of the info sheet that Denver PD put out when Denver started complying with the law and that's the wording it uses. But yes, while in your vehicle you can. But the caution of not stepping out of your vehicle is very accurate.

Rigger
05-10-2010, 21:16
I for one will not inform the officer of my handgun being in the car. After a conversation with an Aurora Police Officer, he told me that they interpret the law differently. He stated that you can only carry it in your car if you are traveling over 50 miles from your home or overnight. I read the CRS to him and stated that it didnt say anything about 50 miles or overnight. He said they arrest people for it all the time. Therefore my feeling is that I will not volunteer any information.

Irving
05-10-2010, 21:22
I got pulled over in my beater Accord in Aurora once. The main cop was clearly experienced, and there was another guy who was practically climbing around on the passenger side of my hood shining the light in my windshield. I asked the main cop, "So what's that guy doing over there? Does he need me to help him or something?" the guy said, "Nah, he's just being nervous."

So during the whole deal I had dropped my insurance card holder between the door and the seat and couldn't find it after everyone returned to their car. I opened my door to holler at the officer and ask him if he still had my stuff. He said that he didn't, and now that I was standing outside my car I saw it next to the seat. However, the second that second, jumpy cop saw me get out of my car, he did the fastest u-turn ever and started to drive up on me very fast. I thought it was pretty funny, but figured that's how you get treated when you drive a crap car in Aurora. I'm glad I don't live there anymore.