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DocMedic
05-11-2010, 23:08
SHERIFF JOE IS AT IT AGAIN! �


You all remember Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Arizona , who painted the jail cells pink and made the inmates wear pink prison garb. Well.........











SHERIFF JOE IS AT IT AGAIN!

Oh, there's MUCH more to know about Sheriff Joe!

Maricopa County was spending approx. $18 million dollars a year on stray animals, like cats and dogs. Sheriff Joe offered to take the department over, and the County Supervisors said okay.

The animal shelters are now all staffed and operated by prisoners. They feed and care for the strays. Every animal in his care is taken out and walked twice daily. He now has prisoners who are experts in animal nutrition and behavior. They give great classes for anyone who'd like to adopt an animal. He has literally taken stray dogs off the street, given them to the care of prisoners, and had them place in dog shows.

The best part? His budget for the entire department is now under $3 million. Teresa and I adopted a Weimaraner from a Maricopa County shelter two years ago. He was neutered, and current on all shots, in great health, and even had a microchip inserted the day we got him. Cost us $78.

The prisoners get the benefit of about $0.28 an hour for working, but most would work for free, just to be out of their cells for the day. Most of his budget is for utilities, building maintenance, etc. He pays the prisoners out of the fees collected for adopted animals.

I have long wondered when the rest of the country would take a look at the way he runs the jail system, and copy some of his ideas. He has a huge farm, donated to the county years ago, where inmates can work, and they grow most of their own fresh vegetables and food, doing all the work and harvesting by hand.

He has a pretty good sized hog farm, which provides meat, and fertilizer. It fertilizes the Christmas tree nursery, where prisoners work, and you can buy a living Christmas tree for $6 - $8 for the Holidays, and plant it later. We have six trees in our yard from the Prison.

Yup, he was re-elected last year with 83% of the vote.
Now he's in trouble with the ACLU again. He painted all his buses and vehicles with a mural, that has a special hotline phone number painted on it, where you can call and report suspected illegal aliens. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement wasn't doing enough in his eyes, so he had 40 deputies trained specifically for enforcing immigration laws, started up his hotline, and bought 4 new buses just for hauling folks back to the border. He's kind of a 'Git-R Dun' kind of Sheriff.

TO THOSE OF YOU NOT FAMILIAR WITH JOE ARPAIO

HE IS THE MARICOPA ARIZONA COUNTY SHERIFF

AND HE KEEPS GETTING ELECTED OVER AND OVER
THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY:

Sheriff Joe Arpaio (In Arizona ), who created the 'Tent City Jail':
He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them.

He stopped smoking and porno magazines in the jails. Took away their weights. Cut off all but 'G' rated movies.

He started chain gangs so the inmates could do free work on county and city projects.

Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn't get sued for discrimination.

He took away cable TV until he found out there was a Federal Court Order that required cable TV for jails so he hooked up the cable TV again; only let in the Disney Channel and the Weather Channel.

When asked why the Weather Channel he replied, 'So they will know how hot it's gonna be while they are working on my Chain Gangs.'

He cut off coffee since it has zero nutritional value.

When the inmates complained, he told them 'This isn't the Ritz/Carlton......if you don't like it, don't come back!'


More On The Arizona Sheriff:

With temperatures being even hotter than usual in Phoenix (116 degrees just seta new record), the Associated Press reports:
About 2,000 inmates living in a barbed-wire-surrounded tent encampment at the Maricopa County Jail have been given permission to strip down to their government-issued pink boxer shorts.

On Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing boxers were either curled up on their bunk beds or chatted in the tents, which reached 138 degrees inside the week before.

Many were also swathed in wet, pink towels as sweat collected on their chests and dripped down to their PINK SOCKS.

'It feels like we are in a furnace', said James Zanzot, an inmate who has lived in the TENTS for 1 year. 'It's Inhumane.'

Joe Arpaio, the tough-guy sheriff who created the tent city and long ago started making his prisoners wear pink and eat bologna sandwiches, is not one bit sympathetic. He said Wednesday that he told all of the inmates: 'It's 120 degrees in Iraq and our soldiers are living in tents too, and they have to wear full battle gear, but they didn't commit any crimes, so shut your mouths!'

Way to go, Sheriff!

Half Live
05-11-2010, 23:30
Man this guy is freaking awesome. All prisons should follow his way of running one.

sniper7
05-11-2010, 23:44
guy is a bad ass and should be followed by others!

OgenRwot
05-12-2010, 00:16
He's my sheriff and I'm proud to vote for him. [Beer]

68Charger
05-12-2010, 06:35
I've lived in Glendale, AZ (over 12 years ago) and he was sheriff then- glad to see he's still going strong..

His programs will always piss somebody off- the ones that need to be disappointed!

theGinsue
05-12-2010, 06:47
If the bulk of our jails and prisons ran the way Sheriff Joe runs things I'm guessing that we'd have far fewer repeat and first time offenders. I'm not trying to imply that being in a jail or prison is a vacation, but it is compared to the way Sheriff Joe runs 'em.

palepainter
05-12-2010, 07:28
Having lived in Tempe for 15 years, I loved what Sheriff Joe did. He is right on all accounts. Some people find him a bit "harsh". I have never had a run in with him, but one of my employees did. I laughed my ass off at him every day for 3 weeks on his visit to tent city for a drinking and driving infraction. They did let him out for work, but the stories from the inside were great.

By the way...My wife hates him.. HHAHAHA

TS12000
05-12-2010, 07:33
I love the idea of actually having these people do something constructive and cost cutting. I always wondered why prisons didn't have large farms next door as a way to cheaply raise and harvest a portion of the food supply for the inmates by the inmates.

theGinsue
05-12-2010, 07:37
^^^ Didn't someone deem forced labor of inmates to be "cruel and unusual"? It upsets me when I see/hear about prisoners getting so many extras and "nice to have's" when there are hard working & law-abiding folks who can't afford those same luxuries.

TS12000
05-12-2010, 07:58
cruel and unusual? shit I wanna see these punks on sun up to sun down chain gangs dammit...

ToliXD
05-12-2010, 08:07
Sheriff Joe is running things right. Convicts should not have luxuries in pirson or jail. They are in that place for a reason... TS has a great idea with the farm.

TS12000
05-12-2010, 08:16
I full heartedly believe that once you have paid your debt to society you're done but why not give them some actual skills so they can reintegrate into society instead of crime once they get out. Here's two solutions in one: set up the aforementioned farms, then when they get out they can take those jobs "no American will take" that illegals seem to fill so well picking produce.

clublights
05-12-2010, 08:23
I love the idea of actually having these people do something constructive and cost cutting. I always wondered why prisons didn't have large farms next door as a way to cheaply raise and harvest a portion of the food supply for the inmates by the inmates.

I think the long term issue with getting law's to pass for this are one little issue.......( not that I agree but I can see the bleeding hearts jumping alllll over this ) .. since the majority of prisoners in this country are black ......... " forcing them " to work on a farm looks an awfully lot like slavery.

Of course the simple solution is .. don;t like it don;t go to jail .. but hey since when have liberals ever had logic ?

TFOGGER
05-12-2010, 08:52
^^^ Didn't someone deem forced labor of inmates to be "cruel and unusual"? It upsets me when I see/hear about prisoners getting so many extras and "nice to have's" when there are hard working & law-abiding folks who can't afford those same luxuries.

His chain gangs are not forced, they are optional. The prisoners are paid (about a quarter an hour, or just a bit more). They can use the money to buy their meals, small comfort items (envelopes, pencils, etc.), or they can save it for when they are released. [Tooth]

FWIW, Maricopa County's recidivism rate is less than half of the national average....

roberth
05-12-2010, 08:57
Sheriff Joe has the right idea.

68Charger
05-12-2010, 09:14
His chain gangs are not forced, they are optional. The prisoners are paid (about a quarter an hour, or just a bit more). They can use the money to buy their meals, small comfort items (envelopes, pencils, etc.), or they can save it for when they are released. [Tooth]

FWIW, Maricopa County's recidivism rate is less than half of the national average....

you beat me to it- all of these programs are voluntary- you can sit and rot in your cell (or tent), or you can get out and see "the outside" by volunteering.. Prisoners that volunteer are more employable when they are released- so it's a win-win

there ARE some of these programs at the prisons in Fremont Co.. there is a brand of tomatos called "Hothouse".. they're grown by the prisoners- they have a horse & dog training program, too.. but they should incorporate much of the cost cutting programs, too

iamhunter
05-12-2010, 09:27
you know in all honesty his prison sounds MORE comfortable then most.

If you had 5 years of hard time,

what would you rather do?

Work in an animal shelter?

Or sit around a cell doing nothing?

He gives them opportunity to work, provides them with a chance to develop skill sets and personal responsibility.

Hell, they should consider that guy a SAINT.

TS12000
05-12-2010, 09:44
I saw a 20/20 a while back about a wild horse program (probably the one 68 is referring to) and it seemed like it gave these guys hope and skill, extremely important for life once you get out. Of course voluntary programs probably draw a huge amount of people who are gonna try to reintegrate in society when their term is served anyways, but it's a good start.

ChunkyMonkey
05-12-2010, 09:47
Its ashamed that no others have duplicated his system.

blackford76
05-12-2010, 09:51
You think we could get Joe to run for president?

BigBear
05-12-2010, 10:00
You think we could get Joe to run for president?


YES! That would be great...

blackford76
05-12-2010, 10:02
We need to organize a nationwide 'write in'.

ChunkyMonkey
05-12-2010, 10:07
He is 77

hurley842002
05-12-2010, 10:10
We need to organize a nationwide 'write in'.

count me IN!

ronaldrwl
05-12-2010, 10:14
Go Joe!

SA Friday
05-12-2010, 10:46
I'm not so sure you want someone as versed in running things like a prison as President. There are many things to be learned from how he runs his jail when it comes to the academics of total institutions, but this is hardly the background you want leading the country.

Also, keep in mind, his jail is a jail and not a prison. I don't believe the amount of freedom he alots to the inmates would work in a prison with long term, higher end violent offenders. Then again at the lower levels of offenders, getting them to break the recidivism (awesome, and very correct word TFOGGER) is something studied and debated continuously. There are over 2 million inmates in this country, the vast majority in low and medium security prisons and jails. That's a lot of money. The average cost of an inmate for a year is $14,500.

Beprepared
05-12-2010, 12:18
My friend in Phoenix loves him. Apparently every Mothers Day he picks up all the dead beat dads that owe back child support. Maybe some of you former Arizonians can confirm this.

Hoosier
05-12-2010, 12:27
FWIW, Maricopa County's recidivism rate is less than half of the national average....

Citation Needed

I say that because I wikipedia'd the guy and found, "In 1998, Arpaio commissioned a study, by Arizona State University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_State_University) criminal justice professor Marie L. Griffin, to examine recidivism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recidivism) rates based on conditions of confinement. Comparing recidivism rates under Arpaio to those under his predecessor, the study found "there was no significant difference in recidivism observed between those offenders released in 1989-1990 and those released in 1994-1995."[63] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio#cite_note-UoF-62)"

DocMedic
05-12-2010, 13:56
Citation Needed

I say that because I wikipedia'd the guy..

Are you really using Wiki as a viable source? [ROFL1] I would be stoned by my professors if I ever did that lol.

SA Friday
05-12-2010, 14:30
Citation Needed

I say that because I wikipedia'd the guy and found, "In 1998, Arpaio commissioned a study, by Arizona State University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_State_University) criminal justice professor Marie L. Griffin, to examine recidivism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recidivism) rates based on conditions of confinement. Comparing recidivism rates under Arpaio to those under his predecessor, the study found "there was no significant difference in recidivism observed between those offenders released in 1989-1990 and those released in 1994-1995."[63] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio#cite_note-UoF-62)"
Those are some fairly old dates in comparison to how long he's been running the jail there. I'm wondering if there isn't another study possibly. Wiki is good to point you in a direction, but there are a lot of errors in it. Recidivism is debated by all the Crim Justice/Sociologist scholars. The study and understanding of confinement facilities and total institutions is a fairly new arena to study in depth. It's only been seriously studied for about a 100 years now, and the quantifiability of results as relative to qualitative parameters is still being argued. Basically, from what was discussed in my Crim Justice classes, they just don't know if recidivism is relevant, and if it is, what is it relevant to and how much could be construed as relevant. One of the issues as to measurement is do you stastically compare one period of time in a jail against another time period, or should you compare one climate (including geographical location) against another disassociated climate? Also, just how many inmates can be expected to respond to the different climates. I think they all agree a certain amount of inmates are not going to respond (change their ways and become law abiding citizens) to any climate, but just how many? What's the base line of expected unchangable inmates? Bla bla bla... it goes on and on...

Hoosier
05-12-2010, 14:56
Are you really using Wiki as a viable source? [ROFL1] I would be stoned by my professors if I ever did that lol.

I'm citing Wikipedia. If you care to see Wikipedia's sources, click the [63] above. I suggest you use Wikipedia as a place you can get a list of relevant sources for whatever project you use. You can then cite those sources. n

SA Friday
05-12-2010, 14:59
I'm citing Wikipedia. If you care to see Wikipedia's sources, click the [63] above. I suggest you use Wikipedia as a place you can get a list of relevant sources for whatever project you use. You can then cite those sources. n
The source is a book, and the hyperlink may or may not take you to the relevant passages. In my case, it didn't.

jake
05-12-2010, 15:11
The source is a book, and the hyperlink may or may not take you to the relevant passages. In my case, it didn't.
If you scroll to pages 41-42 it talks about the study cited. Ironically, the study was commissioned by the Sheriff himself to back up his belief that the conditions in his jails has a positive effect on recidivism.

Pages 43-44 contain some interesting views on his policies from prisoners themselves.

Marlin
05-12-2010, 15:19
Federal Court Order that required cable TV for jails


Can somebody explain "why"?

ronaldrwl
05-12-2010, 15:21
Can somebody explain "why"?

Cruel and unusual punishment to not be able to watch Oprah

Marlin
05-12-2010, 15:28
I would think the opposite. But, that's just me. [Tooth]

ronaldrwl
05-12-2010, 15:31
Wow, you're not in Oprah's book club. How do you survive?

Marlin
05-12-2010, 17:34
Somehow I do manage..

sniper7
05-12-2010, 19:34
Somehow I do manage..


guess we struggle together as I can't stand the bitch

BigBear
05-13-2010, 08:44
Can somebody explain "why"?

Apparently access to TV for "learning" is now a "right"...