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BigBear
05-14-2010, 10:43
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/07/new.york.ground.zero.mosque/index.html


Your thoughts? I understand freedom of speech, etc... but this seems a little disrespectful....

KevDen2005
05-14-2010, 10:46
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/07/new.york.ground.zero.mosque/index.html


Your thoughts? I understand freedom of speech, etc... but this seems a little disrespectful....


Disrespectful indeed...but liberal New York will let it happen along with the rest of P.C. America...we wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feelings and offend them, that would be wrong.

jim02
05-14-2010, 10:53
No explination necessary, this is our country now, unless we start at act and take it back.

Eric Holder Refuses To Say "Radical Islam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOQt_mP6Pgg)"
http://dailyradar.com/beltwayblips/video/eric-holder-refuses-to-say-radical-islam/

Students Kicked Off Campus for Wearing American Flag Tees
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local-beat/Students-Wearing-American-Flag-Shirts-Sent-Home-92945969.html

L.A. Teacher Calls for Mexican Revolt in the U.S.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGqPo5ofk0s

Fort Hood shooting, officers ignored warning signs because they were afraid of the political correctness because he was of Islam faith.

We are loosing this war and expect more to come.
Serious question, how do you win a war when you allow the enemy to live and thrive among you?
Answer: You dont, you loose if you dont fight back.

HBARleatherneck
05-14-2010, 11:03
this country is full of pussies. chock full.

i thought after 911, America would be on a witch hunt (sorry witches) to root out and kill muslim extremists. I thought there would be non stop stories on the news about "hate crimes" against muslims.
nope

it is claimed by muslims that American conversions to islam has quadrupled since 911. i cant find the number, but the number of mosques built since 911 is staggering. READ THEIR LITERATURE, THEY WANT TO KILL YOU. THEY WANT YOUR COUNTRY, THEY WANT YOUR LIFE. Muslims are not our friends. if they say they are moderate, then they are just lazy. they still believe the same.

CLOSE THE BORDERS, SECURE THE PORTS AND STOP IMMIGRATION FROM ENEMY NATIONS.


oh and fuck saudi arabia. they are not our friends. most of the 911 people were saudis. saudi arabia is the wahabi islam. they have spent over 87 billion on building mosques in this country to spread thier hate.

and thanks very much to the baby boomers who thought 2 kids was enough to have. and now America is supposedly short handed on labor, so now we have a society thats white population is dying. and we are importing muslims and illegal labor from the south. muslims are breeding 8 kids per breeding pair. that is compared to our 2 kids per breeding pair. europe is dying population wise. well it would be if it wasnt for the muslims moving in. Kadahfi said the muslims will take over the world, and not by violence. by out breeding us.

GET OUT THERE AND BREED. (if you arent a muslim)

SNAFU
05-14-2010, 11:14
Saying every Muslim is a terrorists,is like saying every Irish Catholic is an IRA/INLA member.
It's 2 blocks away,not on the site of the Twin Towers.

There are a lot more problems in this country then worrying about this.

jim02
05-14-2010, 11:36
Saying every Muslim is a terrorists,is like saying every Irish Catholic is an IRA/INLA member.
It's 2 blocks away,not on the site of the Twin Towers.

There are a lot more problems in this country then worrying about this.


You give an inch they take a mile and that is what has happened here. Did you seen the raids on the Michigan militia (which I agree with) but no raids on the Islam terriorist training camps in the USA.
http://homelandsecurityus.com/special-investigative-reports/muslim-terrorist-training-camps-in-north-america

This is another battle in the war that they have won, I would say they come in slow under the radar but thats not true, in the past 10 years Islam members has exploded in the USA. Thier goal is clear and in the open, they want to take over the word and if you dont follow their ways, then kill you.
Dont belive it, your head is in the sand, wake up.

BigBear
05-14-2010, 11:37
Interesting conversation going on somewhere else below. Each paragraph is different thought.:



This speaks volumes about the insensitivity of the Muslim population in NYC. I'll stand beside ANY muslim, and defend his 1st Amendment right to worship as he chooses. But, if his 'worship' includes the practice of 'evangelism by terrorism,' I'll put a bullet through his forehead, and not think twice about it, in the spirit of my 2nd Amendment rights. The people who are supposed to uphold the constitution are failing. I really don't know what the alternative is... I do know its a slap in the face to all the heroes and people who died that day. Can we put a *insert your denomination here* church in Afghanistan for all the soldiers who died over there?


Not that I have any interest in defending islam - which I believe is one of the most abhorant examples of the revolting phenomenon known as religion - but if a mosque near the 9/11 site is "insensitive," one could only call the behavior of western nations in islamic countries ... well, I actually can't think of an adjective sufficiently despicable.

Islam is a "proselytizing" religion, in which its own Prophet advocated the use of the "sword" in their mission. So long as distance and technology limited their ability to project their "sword" beyond the desert, they were "harmless" to our way of life. Well, times they are a-changin'. As such, our "behavior" over there must be dictated by their "behavior" over HERE.

Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I'll not argue that point. It would be an endless circular debate. But, reasonable people, with reasonable leadership should be able to "draw a line in the sand," and say, "NO MORE." But, as I said, Islam has a mission, and that mission is world domination. They will not be reasonable. They will not stop.

Insensitivity has nothing to do with east, west, religious or political conviction, etc.. Basic human decency is the issue. There is no end in history of citing the past. We live in the present. Why incite ill will in the present? Is it wise for the Muslim community to do such a thing?



Muslims are not being "insensitive." They're being "deliberate." This is a premeditated poke in our eye. Yes, one of the "soft-spots" of an open society, is that we can be taken advantage of by our enemies, while they receive the protection of the Constitution.

That said, so long as we have so-called "leaders," who refuse to call "a spade a spade," we will continue to be taken advantage of. Here's a perfect example: http://www.breitbart.tv/ag-holder-refuses-to-say-radical-islam-is-a-cause-of-terrorism-committed-by-muslims/ (http://www.breitbart.tv/ag-holder-refuses-to-say-radical-islam-is-a-cause-of-terrorism-committed-by-muslims/)

Is Islam united? Are those building mosques the same as those planting bombs. I seem to recall many missionaries building churches in the name of God to soon be followed by military leaders ridding countries of "savages" also in the name of God. I'd like to think that those building churches back in the days of imperialism were of a different mindset. But, maybe not.. maybe Christian forces were united back then like we seem to be claiming the muslims to be today.

YES, historically, the "sword" has been used, and innumerable atrocities have been committed in the "name of God," or in "Jesus' name." BUT, Christianity is under no textual compulsion to "covert the infidels" at the point of a "sword." Literacy, and non-clergy access to scripture, (which was illegal in the dark and middle ages), has led us to discover that church leaders, Kings, and other politicians deceived Christians, for hundreds of years, into UNSCRIPTURAL crusades, wars, and other deplorable acts.

By contrast, the Koran REQUIRES conversion of the infidels, with the only option being slavery or death. When you hear any Muslim claim to be a "moderate," or that they are a non-proselytizing adherent, ask them if their Prophet was "wrong" or in "error" to require that the entire world be converted to Islam, under penalty of death or slavery?

Just try it, and see what happens.



A quick google of "biblical contradictions" will produce at least one web site with 14 pages of quotes from the bible illustrating them. How do you think christians react to that?

The Bible is replete with contradictions, real and apparent. Some are irreconcilable, but many can be understood given the thousands of years between the various documents, the different types of societies being addressed, language and translation difficulties, etc.

Still, we know, beyond dispute, that New Testament Christianity DOES NOT require, advocate, imply or even hint at armed evangelism. Quite the contrary for Islam. To that point, there is no contradiction.

theGinsue
05-14-2010, 13:27
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/07/new.york.ground.zero.mosque/index.html


Your thoughts? I understand freedom of speech, etc... but this seems a little disrespectful....


Hell, why not? The Muslims built one of their most treasured and important Mosques on the site of the original Jewish temple in Jerusalem. If that is okay (and much of the world feels that it is), then building a Mosque on Ground Zero is no more a slap in the face.

I tend to believe that the Muslims do these sort of things to intentionally add insult to the injury.

BigBear
05-14-2010, 13:29
The Muslims built one of their most treasured and important Mosques on the site of the original Jewish temple in Jerusalem.

I wasn't going to bring that up.... but touche.

SNAFU
05-14-2010, 13:48
This is a minor irritation ,,just another plot of the anti-American-socialist crappola.

More worried with our immediate rights.

ColoEnthusiast
05-14-2010, 14:37
Just keep giving them an inch...