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Chris2087
05-15-2010, 17:55
Guys I need some recommendations for a rifle scope.

REM 700 .223 1-12 twist.

My preferred load is 50gr V-max

So I would like to get some ideas for good glass that I can dial in for distances.

I am not sure what a good power range is either.

My budget is in the 500 range.
Thanks Chris

Hoser
05-15-2010, 19:40
Leupold 6.5-20 or 4.5-14.

Grab a used or a demo one.

spencerhenry
05-17-2010, 17:30
leupold 12x used on ebay or gunbroker for about $300

ronaldrwl
05-17-2010, 17:55
Burris - less name, more scope

Marine24
05-17-2010, 19:30
Horus Vision Hawk - front focal plane reticle. Takes some getting used to but effective for doping wind and distance without dialing turrets.

Nikon Monarch with upgrade to target turrets

Hoser
05-17-2010, 20:23
Horus Vision Hawk - front focal plane reticle. Takes some getting used to but effective for doping wind and distance without dialing turrets.

The Horus crosshairs get too think under high magnification and obscure too much of the target. And Horus customer service is crappy to non-existant.

Marine24
05-17-2010, 21:12
No experience with their customer service, so can't comment one way or another.

True statement about the reticle at high magnification. Unfortunately a down side with some front focal plane reticles. At low magnification, it can be of little use as well.

I've used it on hunting rifles and its functionality is good for antelope to elk but even then I didn't go much above 8X.

If the use is more for varmint or target hunting, no doubt you'll obscure the target with the reticle. The marks or dots you use to compensate for wind don't have the problem.

Just make sure you are shooting on a windy day.

Chris2087
05-17-2010, 21:58
Wind here always blows..... I am not afairad to dial in elevation, I just would like it to be a predictable rate. My BSA scope was wild.

I looked at Hoser recomendations and I need to sell some blood.

Arguru15
05-18-2010, 01:14
Can't go wrong with leupold!

Marine24
05-18-2010, 06:02
Take look at the Nikon Monarch with their target turret kit.

Monarch 4-16x42 with a MilDot/BDC reticle will run from mid-$300s on up on gunbroker (cheapest I saw was $369 for a new one with mildot reticle)

Target turret kit is another $70 for places like Opticsplanet.net

http://www.opticsplanet.net/nikon-monarch-1-4-1-8moa-high-pro-turret-target-knob-kit.html

Leupold AR scope is another good option. I prefer a scope with the side focus, but hear good things about this scope.

Tim K
05-18-2010, 07:40
I've heard good reports about these, though I have no experience myself.

http://swfa.com/Millett-Tactical-Riflescopes-C133.aspx

I agree with Hoser on the Leupy recommendation with one caveat, their tolerances for the reticle being perpendicular to the erector are pretty huge. I have a Mark 4 LRT in 8.5 - 20 and my reticle is off by 5 degrees or so. I generally dial for both elevation and wind, so it makes no difference to me, but if you're planning to hold for wind, you could have some real error if the reticle in your scope is also canted.

Leupy customer service has offered to fix mine, I'm just not willing to send it back during the height of the season.

In every other respect, I'm very happy with my scope. I got mine used with Leupy Mark 4 rings for $1,000. Shop around.

hobowh
05-22-2010, 09:45
you will do well with a Burris, Leupold, or higher end nikon.

hobowh
05-22-2010, 09:46
I personally use the Burris Black Diamond, and Signature scopes, and have never had an issue with them, and they are local.

henpecked
05-22-2010, 09:56
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/PENTAX+-+Pioneer+MT+4.5-14+x+42mm+Rifle+Scope+-+Black/9535513.p?id=1218125070988&skuId=9535513&st=pentax scope&cp=1&lp=1

or

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/PENTAX+-+KB6000+Gameseeker+Essential+Optics+Outfit+w/10+x+42+Binoculars+and+4-12x40mm+Scope+-+Black/9535648.p?id=1218125071173&skuId=9535648&st=pentax scope&cp=1&lp=2

the bino scope package is nice, scope has BDC out to 500 yards

Internet sales only...not at your local Best Buy

The1andOnlyKC
05-22-2010, 12:26
I have a Nikon Monarch on one of my rifles and really like it.

I also have a Vortex Viper on another one of my rifles and it is a good scope as well.

The Nikon in my opinion has better optics.

georgia boy
07-18-2010, 19:21
I have a Burris 6-20 on my 223 and love it. While at the shot show I looked at all the scopes and the new Leupold scopes seem to lack a little in their quality to me, especially for the money.

OgenRwot
07-18-2010, 19:49
I've heard good reports about these, though I have no experience myself.

http://swfa.com/Millett-Tactical-Riflescopes-C133.aspx


I have a millett on my Rem 700 308 and use it for precision rifle. The glass is very clear, has a mil-dot reticle, easy to use BIG dials for windage elevation and are clearly marked. Big focus knob for getting approximate distance. Easy to change power as well. I highly recommend Millett for a "budget" optic. It's much better than the rest of the "budget" optics out there and it's made right here in the good ole usa.

ETA: I have one of these http://www.millettsights.com/scopes/trs/

ridgewalker
07-18-2010, 20:09
IMO it depends on what you want to use the rifle for. Examples: I have a Kimber Montana in .243 with a 3x9 Leupold...it is my "walking" coyote/antelope/deer gun; I have a CZ varmint heavy barrel varmint .223 with a 6-24x Bushnell 4200 elite with mil dots...it is my prairie dog gun.

The 3-9 on the .243 picks up coyotes to 400 yds and as close as 20 while running. The .223 is almost impossible for me to find a running coyote on 6x at less than 50 yds.
The 9x is difficult to distinguish a prairie dog at 250 yds and the 24x can suffer from mirage in the heat.
I think a 4-16 would probably be the best of both worlds.

I have had bullet drop compensators, adjustable range turrets, etc, but I like the simplicity of mil dots myself since I use a range finder. But I do need the adjustable objective and I like the turret type as on the Bushnell elite.

Enough said. Good luck. There will always be something better on the market as soon as you buy one.

brokenscout
07-18-2010, 21:29
The new Redfield(made by Leupold) for a basic scope made by a good company. For the price you can't beat them.
http://www.redfield.com/

rforsythe
07-19-2010, 09:14
You might check out the Vortex Viper scopes. A friend recently turned me onto them. I don't have any experience with them yet, but will likely be getting one of the 4-16x50 FFP's. Bang for the buck they seem hard to beat, the reviews and comments about them are great, and the company actively posts up in threads all over the place. The warranty is also hard to argue with - lifetime, no BS, transferable, no receipt needed, "you have a problem with our scope and we fix it".

They have a model at your $500 point, or if you can go just a bit higher there is a 2.5-10x44 that retails for $599 on opticsplanet - less if you have a hookup or can find one used. The FFP I want has features pretty common to a Nightforce for less than half the price, and if it doesn't suck should do just fine.

jmg8550
07-31-2010, 21:13
Burris - less name, more scope

+1 and a lifetime warranty, plus they are local.[Tooth]

tmckay2
09-23-2010, 23:30
in my opinion you're crazy if you don't at least look at the vortex vipers. they have gone way down in price now that they have the pst and razor. you can get them from optics planet for like 250 all the way to 20 some magnification and ive compared it to my leupold and its easily as good if not better. plus their warranty is ridiculous.