View Full Version : US troops won't be used to stop illegal immigration: US
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.0513d49acfc29bc63d3ee39de8bd3b7 1.dc1&show_article=1
Perfect, we will send troops to the border but they are not to stop illegals. This is a perfect plan.
SA Friday
05-26-2010, 19:39
They can't be used to enforce law on civilians. Even though they are national guard, they were activated federally, Title 10, and therefore fall under the constraints of Posse comitatus act of 1878.
They can't be used to enforce law on civilians. Even though they are national guard, they were activated federally, Title 10, and therefore fall under the constraints of Posse comitatus act of 1878.
But he intends to use them to "stem the flow of guns and drugs across the frontier and not to enforce US immigration laws, (http://topics.breitbart.com/immigration+laws/)"
I understand Posse Comitatus but the statement made and implied is that the NG will be used very selectivly so as not to interfear with illegal immigration.
They should be used to build a fence or bury some landmines
SA Friday
05-26-2010, 20:18
But he intends to use them to "stem the flow of guns and drugs across the frontier and not to enforce US immigration laws, (http://topics.breitbart.com/immigration+laws/)"
I understand Posse Comitatus but the statement made and implied is that the NG will be used very selectivly so as not to interfear with illegal immigration.
That's like saying they are going to be able to separate the sexual assault cases from the rape cases... You have no idea what you are dealing with until you are at least a day into investigating the damn thing. Ultimately, they would be enforcing civilian law either way. They did this stupid shit after 9/11 when they put NG in airports across the USA armed with empty M-16's... It political posturing for the sake of being able to say they did something. The NG will run around down there, not really do anything till someone actually DOES something like detain an illegal, PC will be violated at that time, and they all go home. BTDTGTTS.
SA Friday
05-26-2010, 20:19
They should be used to build a fence or bury some landmines
This is not a violation of PC, and I hope this is how they are used.
Troublco
05-26-2010, 20:31
My thoughts here run something along the lines of, why the hell don't they find some company to build a fence if that's what they want? Or could it be that it's just more political posturing to try to make people think that the politicos are actually doing something? I think we should just mirror Mexico's immigration laws, and enforce them. Then when most of the latino community starts screaming bloody murder, we have a little show and tell, comparing our laws to theirs. As far as I'm concerned, they can just shut the hell up. I'm back to my basic position regarding illegal immigration, which is: ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL.
I'm tired of hearing about illegals getting in car wrecks with no driver's license, no insurance, and no intent of doing anything but skipping back to Mexico because of it. A good friend of mine was medically retired from the service because of a wreck like this; he lost his career and the scumball that hit him lost his car. F**k the politicians who don't care about the laws the illegal immigrants break, but hold us to anything they can.
Okay, rant over (for now).
I do like the landmines thing. Mine the hell out of the border, and if they're going to put up a fence make it out of something heavy duty enough that they'll need C4 and demolition hammers to get through it.
How is keeping illegals out of the country enforcing laws on citizens?
Since when are illegals considered citizens? Oh, that's right: Jan 20th, 2009.
ChunkyMonkey
05-26-2010, 21:26
US troops are to be used to keep invaders to enter Germany, South Korea, Japan, Poland, etc etc etc -- but not US.
SA Friday
05-26-2010, 21:51
US troops are to be used to keep invaders to enter Germany (Nope) , South Korea (we are still at war technically with the North, and Nope again, the Koreans do this) , Japan (Nope) , Poland (OK, now this is just silly) , etc etc etc -- but not US.
There is a difference between fighting wars etc and enforcing civilian law. Be happy that the difference is there. We used to use the military in this capacity all the time, and it always turned into a bloodbath. Most of them, history has shown, were wrongful but that doesn't help the big huge pile of dead bones out there from it. There is a lot of gray area and some things are allowed like the loaning of equipment from the military to and LE agency. It can get confusing pretty quick, but every military lawyer in this country can pretty much make the call on the legality of the gray area within 24 hours. Bottom line though, US Federal military troops cannot enforce civilian laws, especially not while on US soil. You want them to build you a great big fence with razor ribbon, electricity, and bury it 40 feet down too. Yep, they can do that. You want them to detain someone more than likely NOT US military for a violation of civilian law regardless of location in the world? Nope.
This is nothing more than political pud-whacking sending any troops down to the border.
There is a difference between fighting wars etc and enforcing civilian law.
This clears it up for me.
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