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USMC03
06-07-2010, 17:47
Posted with Lancelot's permission. Thought you guys would enjoy the pics. More to come in the upcoming weeks.

Transition drills

BCM 12.5" Kino Configuration w/ LaRue 9.0
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Carol B w/ LaRue upper and 16" Colt lightweight barrel
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You can see mine and Pat's BCM 12.5" Kino's in this pic:
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USMC03
06-07-2010, 17:48
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USMC03
06-07-2010, 17:49
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Pat and Mike discuss world domination:
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USMC03
06-07-2010, 17:49
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UVvis getting busy with his 11.5" BCM from the first run of BCM uppers in 2006 ... no BCM logo on the upper
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Mike getting in some trigger time
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This pic needs no comment ... (someone made a boo boo) ;)
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USMC03
06-07-2010, 17:50
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A little humor and trying to get one over on Pat Rogers. Relay 2, keepin' it gangsta ;)
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USMC03
06-07-2010, 17:51
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Irving
06-07-2010, 17:53
Very cool pictures. Thanks for sharing.

KevDen2005
06-07-2010, 18:24
Very awesome indeed

sniper7
06-07-2010, 19:50
very cool!

Elhuero
06-07-2010, 20:26
man that looks like fun


what kind of chest rig is B-NEG wearing?

USMC03
06-08-2010, 05:03
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The Extractor
06-08-2010, 10:29
Well here is my AAR after getting blasted with the firehose of gunfighting knowledge that is an EAG class.....

First a HUGE thank you to Pat,Mike,Donna,Jeff C and all the rest who helped me,either get to be there or learn there.
Also another Big Thank You to the companies who donated gear to the class.

A little about me. Im a machinist for a carbon fiber R&D shop here in CO. This was my first real class of any kind.

My gear: A supposed 1k round count used BCM 16" mid length with a new LMT BCG, BCM medium gunfighter CH, no rail, no optic,no light, mounted to a stag lower with a 6 pos stock.
No failures from either the upper or the lower.
The only problems I had were, the CH hit the top of the stock, easy file fix, and the sharp edges around the outside of the stock,again easy file fix, finally the stock is slippery and doesn't stick in place. NON of this accounts for my terrible shooting. Big Grin

I used a padded Vtac tac sling. Worked great.

Pat lent me an Aimpoint T1, awesome. My first real use of an RDS. I will be buying one as soon as funds allow. Ordered ! woohoo!

For mags I almost exclusively used Tangodown ARC mags. Flawless. That is what I could get ahold of before the class I had less than a weeks notice I was GTG for it. I also used a couple new Pmags as well, also flawless.

I used an Eagle Ind universal chest rig, worked fine, the only problem I had was the outermost pouches are for a radio
or some similar item and I had to secure them up with zip ties so as to not be in the way of my pistol.

Pat lent me a CSM ? dump pouch,worked great.

I carried my Sig GSR 1911 commander in a fobus paddle holster because that is what I could get my hands on for the class.
No problems with either. Winchester white box ball ammo no problems.

Carbine ammo was 1k 55gr BVAC from surplusammmo.com, zero problems. 200rds ?gr prvi no problems. 200rds 55gr federal from Walmart.

The Extractor
06-08-2010, 10:33
Overall this was an awesome experience. Pat said "You were this far in over your head,but you handled it."
In light of this I would reccomend to any other first timers to take a basic carbine course to start with then work up to this and so forth.

Learn the basics, I hadn't yest learned and perfected them and it caused me some struggles. Trigger control, figure out the right length that works on the stock for you,work on keeping the carbine up and eyes on target when mag changing, breathing, stance,be in your own bubble,this isn't a competition to see who can miss the fastest.

I am very glad the class size was as small as it was as I got more one on one help than I would have otherwise.

If you think you need training, DO IT! If you Dont think you need training DO IT anyway.

Roger
06-08-2010, 10:48
Great pictures.

cowboykjohnson
06-08-2010, 11:23
looks like fun!

Hoosier
06-08-2010, 11:56
Nice FN SCAR-L there.

H.

BigBear
06-08-2010, 12:01
Nice FN SCAR-L there.

H.

I haven't seen a lot of those... did they turn out to be all they were hyped up to be?

Still a price point problem I guess?

rondog
06-08-2010, 12:21
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Elhuero
06-08-2010, 12:56
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Irving
06-08-2010, 13:02
I think those little telephone cord lanyards are just silly.

That is to prevent you from being embarrassed when your gun goes flying across the court when you do a sick dunk from the 3 point line.

BigBear
06-08-2010, 13:10
Not really into being in a line with a bunch of other people blasting away...


Ditto... however, if there were an obstacle course somewhere in there, I just may have to partake.

Clarification: A REAL obstacle course... not running up to yellow line, sticking gun through hole, firing two rounds anywhere on target at 10 yards, for time qualifications...

Real Course: Crawling through a 5 foot pipe underwater in full gear with rifle ready, mobanzique drill 3 targets in water upon exit, spar a dummy (or person) on hand techniques with knife, get over a wall topped with constantine wire, use pistol to engage 6 spread targets (double tap each) at varying distances from 5 yards to 25. Take some monkey bars or a rope course heading UP, and end course by breaching door with shotty and repelling down tower... THAT would be something I'd be interested in....

But in any case... any training (done right) is good training. I'd have fun just standing there blasting away too to be honest....

rondog
06-08-2010, 15:46
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RYAN50BMG
06-08-2010, 20:42
I would be interested in a report on how well the SCAR ran. Been eyeballing one, so just wondering.

The Extractor
06-08-2010, 22:00
There were 2 SCARS in the class the one in the pics ran fine but the other was a
T&E SCAR L that has 15k rds through it started having double feed issues, type 2 malf.

Elhuero
06-09-2010, 01:25
ok so the air ninja pistol telephone cord is not a concern for me, but I want all the rest of that gear


what type of scope in the first pic w/ guy in larue hat?

and what type of chest rig on the guy with O-NEG on his shirt?

thx

USMC03
06-09-2010, 04:56
Surefire M300 mini-Scout. I'm really diggin this light. Takes one CR123 battery. Lightweight, compact, puts out a lot of light for it's size, and doesn't take up much real estate:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2888001_copy.jpg

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The Extractor
06-09-2010, 08:35
An Elcan which is an super POS and I dont know what his rig is. I will try to find out.

BigBear
06-09-2010, 08:41
Meh, I'm too old and fat for ninja training.

Lol, dind't mean to upset anyone. I'm too out of shape for "ninja training" as well.... but boy I think it'd be fun to try runnin' n gunnin' instead of line shoots... [Beer]

ToliXD
06-09-2010, 08:54
Nice pics... I want to try ninja training.[Coffee]

BadShot
06-09-2010, 09:11
No offense to any of you who are not into this type of hard training, but Pat Rogers is a hell of a guy and by all accounts (and limited if any open spots in his classes anywhere) a hell of an instructor. This is not a go stand on the line and just put holes in paper class that you might have taken to get your CCW, this is a course of instruction that will teach you how to really use and drive your AR platform and then some.

While you see a good deal of folks "geared up" in many of the class photo's, realize that a significant number of those folks use and rely on their weapons for a living. Passing judgment on the experience and class just based on the pictures isn't really an informed opinion. Take some time and look up some of the previous reviews (ala AAR's) that Jeff (USMC03) has posted for us here. I think you might be surprised and what all they accomplish and cover in a mere 3 days.

Also check out Pat's site ... http://www.eagtactical.com

theGinsue
06-09-2010, 09:15
Ditto... however, if there were an obstacle course somewhere in there, I just may have to partake.

Clarification: A REAL obstacle course... not running up to yellow line, sticking gun through hole, firing two rounds anywhere on target at 10 yards, for time qualifications...

Real Course: Crawling through a 5 foot pipe underwater in full gear with rifle ready, mobanzique drill 3 targets in water upon exit, spar a dummy (or person) on hand techniques with knife, get over a wall topped with constantine wire, use pistol to engage 6 spread targets (double tap each) at varying distances from 5 yards to 25. Take some monkey bars or a rope course heading UP, and end course by breaching door with shotty and repelling down tower... THAT would be something I'd be interested in....

But in any case... any training (done right) is good training. I'd have fun just standing there blasting away too to be honest....

Bear,

We've gotta get you some land to build us one of these!

BigBear
06-09-2010, 09:18
While you see a good deal of folks "geared up" in many of the class photo's, realize that a significant number of those folks use and rely on their weapons for a living.

Rgr, understood. [Beer]



Bear,

We've gotta get you some land to build us one of these!

Hey man,
I have a lot of ideas... it's just the time, land, materials, and money that I don't have...

Anyways, enough derailing, back to Pat Rogers:

The Extractor
06-09-2010, 12:20
ok so the air ninja pistol telephone cord is not a concern for me, but I want all the rest of that gear


what type of scope in the first pic w/ guy in larue hat?

and what type of chest rig on the guy with O-NEG on his shirt?

thx


The rig is a not available, Non cataloged item.

Elhuero
06-09-2010, 12:28
The rig is a not available, Non cataloged item.

thanks anyway for looking into it.

The Extractor
06-09-2010, 14:39
It might become available in the future but who knows.

Roger
06-09-2010, 15:44
If you want a good rig, buy one of Jeff's rigs from Bravo Company. I had it on my birthday list, but got socks instead......

USMC03
06-09-2010, 19:17
If you want a good rig, buy one of Jeff's rigs from Bravo Company. I had it on my birthday list, but got socks instead......

Thanks Roger.


More info on the Bravo Company BCM 03 MSF Chest Harness can be found here:

http://03designgroup.com/photo/bcm-03-msf-chest-harness/icon-bcm-03-msf.jpg
03designgroup | Bravo Company - BCM 03 MSF (Modular Split Front) Chest Harness http://demigodllc.com/icon/extwh3.png (http://www.03designgroup.com/reviews/bcm-03-msf-chest-harness)


and here

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-03-MSF-Chest-Harness-s/124.htm

USMC03
06-10-2010, 04:41
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rondog
06-10-2010, 23:41
Comment deleted by staff.

USMC03
06-11-2010, 05:13
To get those shots, the person taking the pics would be on the other side of the range, slightly in front of the line and zoom in with a telephoto lense. Nothing unsafe is ever done in a class.

HBARleatherneck
06-11-2010, 05:44
i would love to attend a class.....sadly, I couldnt afford it now, or maybe ever. factory ammo+class fee=mucho dinero.

USMC03
06-11-2010, 06:17
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rondog
06-11-2010, 12:19
Comment deleted by staff.

USMC03
06-11-2010, 12:49
Uh huh. Look at the photographer in the last photo right above here.


He's on line with the shooter, it looks like he's forward due to the angle of the pic.


If you don't have anything constructive to say or anything to add to the coversation, please don't post in this thread.

Thus far, your comments have not been relevant to this post and resemble something that a teenager would post, not a grown man with grandchildren.

If this kind of training isn't for you, fine. Move on to the next post. I'm sure others are here to learn.



Thank you

The Extractor
06-11-2010, 13:08
x2

Elhuero
06-11-2010, 16:03
any more pics?


(the more dangerous the better)

The Extractor
06-11-2010, 16:26
http://vid17.photobucket.com/albums/b83/OLDARMY45/EAG/th_SDC12736.jpg (http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b83/OLDARMY45/EAG/?action=view&current=SDC12736.flv)

Graves
06-11-2010, 16:52
His courses look awesome! Mall ninja or not, there is something to be said about the fact that these folks spend so much time and $$$$ on their training. I will have to agree....the landyard is a bit much. [Tooth]

Anybody remember that video of that freaking moron who was snapping shots of a live fire session from down range between the targets? Idiot!!![Rant1]

Roger
06-11-2010, 17:26
Ok. So here's the deal.

I can attest to Jeff's safety and the safety of classes he has taught or helped sponsor. I can say the same for Pat Roger's and the way he teaches. They would not do anything unsafe. Camera angles may be deceiving.

SO KNOCK IT OFF.

The Extractor
06-11-2010, 19:00
I was actually thinking of looking for that pic......

Mtn.man
06-11-2010, 19:45
I like seeing granny kicking ass with her weapons of mass destruction....

Nice pics......

USMC03
06-14-2010, 05:25
XGEP rocking Pat's BCM "Filthy 14" Mid-Length. This gun was used in the 2009 Pueblo West class as well. The gun currently has over 36,000 rounds on it. Consider that's over 36,000 rounds being run in classes (every 3 days this gun has 1,300 to 1,500 of hard use rounds down range in a training enviornment). Kind of cool to see the same gun being used in a class a year later:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2853001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2855001_copy.jpg

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The Extractor performing the same drill:
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Graves
06-14-2010, 06:45
Man, a GSR??!? Blasphemy! [Tooth]


Hey Jeff, any idea how Pat's AR has performed to 36k?

USMC03
06-14-2010, 06:50
Hey Jeff, any idea how Pat's AR has performed to 36k?


Needs to be updated, but I wrote about how this gun performed up to around 30,000 in this article:

http://www.03designgroup.com/photo/bcm-complete-ar15-upper-and-lower-receivers/icon-bcm-upper-lower.jpg
03designgroup | BCM Complete AR15 Upper and Lower Receivers http://demigodllc.com/icon/extwh3.png (http://www.03designgroup.com/reviews/bcm-complete-ar15-upper-and-lower-receivers)




Hope this helps

Graves
06-14-2010, 07:24
Thank you! That's a solid rifle for sure; and here I was thinking my 6920 was the shiz with close to 7k trouble free rounds down the pipe.

USMC03
06-15-2010, 05:01
I have 3 Colt LE6920's (purchased 2003 / 2004) and they are a great gun. Colt is the gun by which all other manufactures are judged. BCM is of equal quality, cheaper, and the options are endless (barrel lengths, gas system choices, rail choices, etc). With Colt you have 4 or 5 different configurations choices. (20" rifle, 16" carbines, 11.5" short barreled rifle) .... Last time I counted BCM's configuration choices was a few months ago and there were over 115 different configuration choices at the time (11.5" SBR, 12.5" SBR, 14.5" carbine, 14.5" mid-length, 16" carbine, 16" mid-length, 18" rifle, 20" rifle, rails installed by VTAC, LaRue, Daniel Defense, Knights Armament Company, Mid-West Industries, Troy Ind., SS410 stainless steel barrels, standard barrels, cold hammer forged barrels, etc, etc, etc)



Dozer (l_jimenez) getting busy with his BCM 12.5" Kino (carbine gas system, mid length handguards):

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2847001_copy.jpg

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Note the www.boresightsolutions.com stiple work on the Magpul AFG (angled fore grip). I just finished up a 3 day Magpul Dynamics Pistol 1 & 2 with a Glock that was refinished by Ben at Boresight Solutions. I was really impressed with the work, made a huge difference:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2850001_copy.jpg

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USMC03
06-16-2010, 05:05
USMA07 rockin his Daniel Defense carbine:
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http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2835001_copy.jpg

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A student during a timed drill with a BCM 16" mid-length and BCM 03 MSF Chest Harness:

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2839001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2841001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2844001_copy.jpg

Roger
06-16-2010, 18:29
Two things I need before I die.

1) A couple of T1's for my working guns.

2) A Kino upper for my SBR.

MrPrena
06-16-2010, 21:53
LOL... I remember that video from Tac Response.
I first thought it was some kinda hoax or prank. Sadly, it was for real.

The CEO of that academy tries to justify the action was a very low risk (forgot what %) it is.
I don't care it is 1% or 0.001%. It is like trying to cross I-25 full of drunk driver at midnight , even when there is a overhead bridge cross on top.


His courses look awesome! Mall ninja or not, there is something to be said about the fact that these folks spend so much time and $$$$ on their training. I will have to agree....the landyard is a bit much. [Tooth]

Anybody remember that video of that freaking moron who was snapping shots of a live fire session from down range between the targets? Idiot!!![Rant1]

USMC03
06-17-2010, 05:53
CROZ running his FN SCAR on the Mod Navy Qual. He can run that gun:

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2824001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2825001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2827001_copy.jpg

SCAR bite ... CROZ moved the rear sight forward and didn't have any issues the rest of the class:

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2829001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2830001_copy.jpg

Graves
06-17-2010, 06:06
Scar bite lol. Been there, chipmunk cheeks don't help the cause [Tooth]

Roger
06-17-2010, 06:13
LOL... I remember that video from Tac Response.
I first thought it was some kinda hoax or prank. Sadly, it was for real.

The CEO of that academy tries to justify the action was a very low risk (forgot what %) it is.
I don't care it is 1% or 0.001%. It is like trying to cross I-25 full of drunk driver at midnight , even when there is a overhead bridge cross on top.




There used to be a trainer, that would stand next to the target while his students shot at it. He said it helped him maintain his "warriors edge."

Graves
06-17-2010, 06:15
There used to be a trainer, that would stand next to the target while his students shot at it. He said it helped him maintain his "warriors edge."

Used to be? How's he doin these days?

theGinsue
06-17-2010, 06:41
ref: SCAR bite:

I saw the blood on his face in some of the earlier pics and was wondering just what had happened to him but figured it must be a par for the course to get a little blood drawn so I never asked.

USMC03
06-18-2010, 06:04
Lowlight rocking his (I believe it was a LWRC) during the Mod Navy Qual:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2814001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2816001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2818001_copy.jpg

Another student shooting the Modified Navy Qual. I believe this was a 5.45 upper:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2820001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2822001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2823001_copy.jpg

The Extractor
06-18-2010, 08:25
Jeff, The Master picture man !

Jer
06-18-2010, 11:18
I wonder why Frank isn't running the Sabre Defence upper he got from me a while back. Said he needed something 'prettier' for some new videos. Guess Pat Rogers' class wasn't good enough for him to bring out the 'pretty' stick. [ROFL2]

USMC03
06-21-2010, 08:39
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2799001_copy.jpg

Just before a shot:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2801001_copy.jpg

And right after the shot. The dirt in this area is the consistancy of talcum powder:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2802001_copy.jpg

Note the www.boresightsolutions.com stippling on l_jimenez's S&W M&P:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2806001_copy.jpg

USMA07 letting brass fly from the prone:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2807001_copy.jpg

Note how close the Aimpoint 3x magnifier is mounted to the Aimpoint Micro T1 in this pic (more info can be found in the link below):
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2809001_copy.jpg


http://www.03designgroup.com/img/3xt1.jpg
03designgroup | Getting the 3x Magnifier closer to the Aimpoint Micro T1 http://demigodllc.com/icon/extwh3.png (http://www.03designgroup.com/technotes/aimpoint-3x-magnifier-with-t1-larue)

USMC03
06-22-2010, 05:37
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2787001_copy.jpg

XGEP running Pat's T&E SCAR:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2788001_copy.jpg

Pat pointing out something on the BCM 03 MSF Chest Harness:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2792001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2795001_copy.jpg

CROZ shooting his SCAR:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2798001_copy.jpg

USMC03
06-23-2010, 11:42
Pat Rogers rockin a BCM 12.5" Kino confiruation and multi-cam BCM 03 MSF Chest Harness and getting some trigger time with students:

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2772001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2773001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2784001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2774001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2782001_copy.jpg

USMC03
06-24-2010, 06:19
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2779001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2780001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2781001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2786001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2813001_copy.jpg

What's the red stuff on the charging handle?

http://www.03designgroup.com/photo/do-it-yourself-gas-buster-chargining-handle/icon-do-it-yourself-gas-buster.jpg
03designgroup | Do It Yourself Gas Buster Charging Handle http://demigodllc.com/icon/extwh3.png (http://www.03designgroup.com/technotes/do-it-yourself-gas-buster-charging-handle)

Irving
06-24-2010, 08:59
Isn't that where you can use gasket sealant to try and direct the gasses out of your face?

EDIT: Sorry, didn't see the link to the gas buster.

cowboykjohnson
06-24-2010, 09:37
More and more cool pics and good info.

Roger
06-24-2010, 20:40
Forgot to ask. What weight buffer are you running on the KENO?

USMC03
06-24-2010, 21:00
Roger,


H buffer




Hope this helps

USMC03
06-25-2010, 05:27
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2758001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2762001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2764001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2766001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2768001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2771001_copy.jpg

Roger
06-25-2010, 16:50
Roger,


H buffer




Hope this helps





Yup. Thanks.

HBARleatherneck
06-25-2010, 17:14
Jeff, Devil Dog, I am noticing a disturbing trend in these photos...........................



too many photos of men posing with guns. as a Marine I would think you might have some pictures of women (good looking) with guns. I am wondering whats going on.

USMC03
06-28-2010, 18:36
You supply a flock of hot chics that know how to shoot, and I've got the guns and photography covered ;)






Mike H clearning a malfunction:

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2744001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2746001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2747001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2748001_copy.jpg

Roger
06-29-2010, 05:36
A man after my own PR4 heart.

He has a 12" rail. Is it a 16" barrel or a 14.5"?

USMC03
06-29-2010, 05:56
I'm pretty sure it's a 14.5" Noveske Afgan, but can't see the pics right now.

Hoosier
06-29-2010, 10:24
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2748001_copy.jpg

Can we admit now that the charging handle on AR's is in a stupid spot?

H.

USMC03
06-29-2010, 19:43
2nd half of yesterday's series:


http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2749001_copy.jpg

And it goes from bad to worse:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2750001_copy.jpg

Malfunction cleared ... re-insert a new mag:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2753001_copy.jpg

And back into action:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2756001_copy.jpg

USMC03
06-30-2010, 05:16
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2738001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2739001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2740001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2741001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2742001_copy.jpg

The Extractor
06-30-2010, 17:21
is that one student running Pat's carbine ?

USMC03
06-30-2010, 17:29
1st pic ... yes, he's running Pat's gun.

The Extractor
06-30-2010, 17:47
Shows how much attention I was paying. Facepalm.

USMC03
07-01-2010, 05:57
The pics in my last response are the last of the pics from Training Day 1. This post starts pics from Training Day 2:


http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2983001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2987001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2988001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2989001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2994001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2996001_copy.jpg

Roger
07-01-2010, 06:21
I shot my new BCM upper, on a BCM lower yesterday. And let me say it was the smoothest shooting gun I have ever used.

That being said, I suck at shooting.

[Help]

USMC03
07-02-2010, 11:26
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2997001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2998001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_2999001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3000001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3001001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3002001_copy.jpg

Roger
07-02-2010, 20:10
That Elcan is twice as big as the gun.

Hoser
07-02-2010, 21:37
That Elcan is twice as big as the gun.

It just looks that way because Frank is a gnome...

RYAN50BMG
07-02-2010, 21:46
Is that an ACR I see?

The Extractor
07-02-2010, 22:17
Yes that is an ACR. Had about 4500 rds through and then started having issues. Broken extractor IIRC.

USMC03
07-05-2010, 10:38
Malfunction drills:

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3003001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3004001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3005001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3006001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3007001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3008001_copy.jpg

Hoosier
07-05-2010, 12:03
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3006001_copy.jpg

Is this the Elcan with the 1 to 4x toggle lever?

H.

USMC03
07-05-2010, 13:01
Yes it's a 1-4x Elcan ... he later switched to an Aimpoint.

The guys that wear suits and work back in the Investigations Bureau often refer to this kind of thing as "A clue" ;)

Roger
07-05-2010, 13:07
When I look at these pictures I'm left with one thought. That's a lot of money in guns and gear out there. If you can afford the gear, you should be able, and should require yourself, to afford the training.

Someday I'll practice what I preach.

Hoosier
07-05-2010, 13:53
Yes it's a 1-4x Elcan ... he later switched to an Aimpoint.

The guys that wear suits and work back in the Investigations Bureau often refer to this kind of thing as "A clue" ;)

Not sure I follow? The Elcan is too large/heavy? I'd like to have a red-dot with optional 4x zoom on my rifle, and the two options I've seen seem to be this Elcan and the dual red dot/scope setup that we see a number of in these images. Weight is a priority issue, but so is a great sight picture.

H.

USMC03
07-05-2010, 13:59
You will always be faster with a non magnified red dot than you will with a magnified optic (even at 1x).

I used a S&B Short Dot (1.1-4x) for SWAT for a couple years. I'm back to using Aimpoints.



Instead of fighting his gear, the student opted to go with an Aimpoint.

USMC03
07-06-2010, 05:58
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3009001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3010001_copy.jpg

USMA07 conducting a reload ... smokin'
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3011001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3012001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3013001_copy.jpg

Jimmy directs my attention to his Magpul MOE pistol grip that was stippled by Ben at www.boresightsolutions.com
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3014001_copy.jpg

USMC03
07-07-2010, 05:20
CROZ clearning a malfunction ... I'm still amazed at how fast he could run that SCAR:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3015001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3016001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3017001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3018001_copy.jpg

Jimmy finishes up a drill:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3019001_copy.jpg

Lowlight sizes up another shooter ... has that "Yeah, I can take this guy" look on his face .... don't f**k with Lowlight:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3021001_copy.jpg

BigBear
07-07-2010, 08:41
Last pic for example... Does the neck wrap really keep you that much cooler? I understand in a desert, but does it work all that efficiently even here in teh States? I like these pics man, good job.

Driftwood
07-07-2010, 08:49
Last pic for example... Does the neck wrap really keep you that much cooler? I understand in a desert, but does it work all that efficiently even here in teh States? I like these pics man, good job.

The hadji rag? It keeps brass off you, too. ;)

BigBear
07-07-2010, 08:55
Ah, thxs Driftwood. I didn't know the proper term or reasoning. When I was working the farm before the grandparents died, we (dad, brother and I) always wore our bandanas around our neck to help keep cool. Didn't know if the "hadji" served the same purpose.

That black SCAR at the top of this page looks nice... The only "weird" thing to me is that the 6 inches or so of barrel sticking out from the block don't look aethstically "pleasing"... but I guess a battle rifle is not supposed to look good huh? HA. Anyone have first hand experience with them? How do they run? Do anything better than a regular Ar15, etc?

DocMedic
07-07-2010, 09:20
That black SCAR at the top of this page looks nice... The only "weird" thing to me is that the 6 inches or so of barrel sticking out from the block don't look aethstically "pleasing"... but I guess a battle rifle is not supposed to look good huh? HA. Anyone have first hand experience with them? How do they run? Do anything better than a regular Ar15, etc?

ACR

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3017001_copy.jpg

ACR = Black
SCAR = Brown
In this pic.

BigBear
07-07-2010, 09:21
Ah, so those are out? Thanks for the clarification. Thought it looked a little off, but I didn't know. Still, same questions are staged... Anything "better" (I know that's a subjective term) than a plain ol' ar-15?

Roger
07-08-2010, 05:56
For you EAG fans out there. Now you can be really prepared for your next course.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/bravocompanyusa/EAG%20Tac%20CARBINE/BCMEAGTACCAR800straigh.jpg

USMC03
07-12-2010, 08:11
A close up of the pic that was posted on 07-06-10:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3022001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3023001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3024001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3025001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3027001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3029001_copy.jpg

Roger
07-12-2010, 16:50
About the rag thingy. I wear one. But it is so my delicate neck skin is not burned to a crisp by the hot Colorado Sun. I need to keep my pretty neck in tact so I won't appear inferior when seen by the spousal unit. (And I have this skin condition - seriously - that gets worse when I'm burned.) So for me its added protection that sunscreen doesn't give me. Don't know about cooler.

Roger
07-12-2010, 16:52
Lowlight sizes up another shooter ... has that "Yeah, I can take this guy" look on his face .... don't f**k with Lowlight:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3021001_copy.jpg




Don't mess with me man! I can afford an Elcan!

tmckay2
07-12-2010, 17:15
Ah, so those are out? Thanks for the clarification. Thought it looked a little off, but I didn't know. Still, same questions are staged... Anything "better" (I know that's a subjective term) than a plain ol' ar-15?

theyre nice, but in my opinion not worth the price tag for what you get. when they were originally going to come out they looked like not only way better than a regular ar15 but at a fair price. then bushmaster got a hold of them and the price went up and the benefits went down. still nice to have, but not amazingly better. of course you can probably say the same thing about almost every type of weapon and every type of accessory. it all depends on your point of view and what you like

USMC03
07-13-2010, 05:31
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3030001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3031001_copy.jpg

Pat rockin his BCM 12.5" Kino Configuration with LaRue 9.0:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3033001_copy.jpg

Carol B rockin my 12" LaRue Tactical Stealth (complete LaRue Stealth upper on a SBR LaRue billet lower). This is the second class this gun has been through. Also used it in a 3 day SWAT Carbine Course with Dave Neth last year.
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3037001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3038001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3043001_copy.jpg

USMC03
07-14-2010, 05:46
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3044001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3047001_copy.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk99/USMC03_photos/Pat%20Rogers%202010/IMG_3048001_copy.jpg

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3 short barreled rifles:
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USMC03
07-15-2010, 12:19
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USMC03
07-16-2010, 10:52
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USMC03
07-19-2010, 08:21
USMA07 letting brass fly with his Daniel Defense carbine:
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A student running a drill with his BCM mid-length and BCM 03 MSF Chest Harness:
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Entire line doing a movement drill:
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l_jimenez during a movement drill with his BCM 12.5" Kino Configuration and BCM 03 MSF Chest Harness:
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USMC03
07-20-2010, 05:44
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Me running a drill with a BCM 12.5" Kino Configuration and BCM 03 MSF Chest Harness during a timed drill:
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USMC03
07-21-2010, 05:50
More pics from the same drill:
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XGEP running the same drill:
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USMC03
07-22-2010, 05:33
TheExtractor running a BCM mid-length during a timed drill:
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UnknownSailor running a timed drill .... Not the old school Magpul M93 stock:
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USMC03
07-23-2010, 08:22
UVvis running the drill with his 11.5" BCM gun .... This was one of the BCM uppers from the first batch in 2006 ... UVvis used this same gun in Pat's class last year and made high shooter for last year's class:
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My joints cry everytime I see UVvis go into his modified squatting / kneeling position:
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Carol B running my LaRue Stealth SBR (12" barrel) and the BCM 03 MSF Chest Harness during a drill. Carol is an awesome lady and a solid shooter.
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USMC03
07-26-2010, 06:29
More of Carol B running my 12" LaRue Stealth:

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Me running the same drill:

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USMC03
07-27-2010, 07:26
l_jimenez with his BCM 12.5" Kino and BCM 03 MSF Chest Harness:
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Bing get's busy with his SCAR ... Bing can flat run that gun ... impressive:
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USMA07 going prone:
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USMC03
07-28-2010, 05:38
Lowlight during a mag change before he goes prone. I've taken several classes with Lowlight .... great dude, solid shooter, always like seeing his name on the class roster:
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USMC03
07-29-2010, 05:40
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EAG Tactical's new dump pouch:
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USMC03
07-30-2010, 05:42
Piston gun Friday:

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USMC03
08-02-2010, 19:34
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USMC03
08-03-2010, 07:40
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USMC03
08-04-2010, 07:35
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USMC03
08-05-2010, 07:55
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USMC03
08-06-2010, 07:43
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USMC03
08-09-2010, 07:49
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Carol B rocking a LaRue 12" Stealth:
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Pat Rogers getting some trigger time with students. Crye low vis armor carrier, BCM 03 MSF Chest Harness, and BCM 12.5" Kino Configuration w/ LaRue 9.0:
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USMC03
08-10-2010, 07:22
Unkonwn Sailor during a moving drill:
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Pat's S&W M&P .45 w/ grip reduction from Ben at www.boresightsolutions.com:
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Carol rockin' the LaRue Stealth:
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USMC03
08-11-2010, 07:40
More of Pat:

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USMC03
08-12-2010, 07:40
Carol B:
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Another shot of Pat's M&P .45:
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XGEP:
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Unkown Sailor:
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Carol and Pat:
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USMC03
08-15-2010, 08:37
I've been so busy the last couple days, I was unable to put up pics on Friday ... sorry for the delay (Friday's installment):



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USMC03
08-22-2010, 18:34
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USMC03
08-23-2010, 18:40
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USMC03
08-24-2010, 08:55
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USMC03
08-25-2010, 13:42
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USMC03
08-29-2010, 08:28
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USMC03
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USMC03
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USMC03
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USMC03
09-03-2010, 08:00
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USMC03
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USMC03
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