View Full Version : Tin Foil Hat Stuff Or Just More .Gov Stupidity
theGinsue
06-21-2010, 22:05
So, I've got a couple of things I wanted to share in this thread with you all which could all just be conspiracy theory tin foil hat stuff, or maybe it's legit government stupidity.
I'll let YOU decide for yourselves.
Here's the first offering:
IndyMac/OneWest Bank boys get a what appears to be a sweetheart of a deal at taxpayers expense. (Go figure that George Soros would be involved in this. Just remember George Soros for my next contribution to this thread.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssl5yb7FewA&feature=player_embedded
("http : //www . youtube . com/watch?v=ssl5yb7FewA&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssl5yb7FewA&feature=player_embedded)")
and the whole time the Bush administration was trying to stop it, all the while being called a tyrant for fighting back after we were attacked.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&feature=related
ColoEnthusiast
06-21-2010, 23:29
I think it's generally safe to say that if something is incredibly wrong and makes no sense to average Americans, it's probably 100% true.
Select state governments seem to be doing much better, hopefully that will influence policy-making on the federal level..
Byte Stryke
06-22-2010, 10:49
So what your saying is that I Sold my failing bank to the FDIC who sold it back to me and gave me more money than it was worth courtesy of the taxpayer and then I also get money from the original lender on the same loan....
or something like that.
yeah, nothing crooked going on here
cowboykjohnson
06-22-2010, 10:51
So what your saying is that I Sold my failing bank to the FDIC who sold it back to me and gave me more money than it was worth courtesy of the taxpayer and then I also get money from the original lender on the same loan....
or something like that.
yeah, nothing crooked going on here
that makes my brain hurt.
CrufflerSteve
06-22-2010, 11:03
It ain't crooked when its either been made legal or will never investigated. I believe the term is Regulatory Capture. It's a depressing topic.
Steve
theGinsue
06-22-2010, 23:15
So, I'm sure you've all heard that a Federal court rescinded the Gulf drilling moratorium. My guess is that Obama and his good old buddy George Soros are livid about now over that.
Here's the deal.
George Soros was one of Obamas major campaign contributors.
Obama declared the moratorium putting many U.S. oil drilling employees in the Gulf out of work.
The drilling platforms, owned by George Soros, can't stay idle for too long for a number of reasons - mostly due to the loss of revenue.
The decision is made to move the oil platforms - it seems that a South American nation, Brazil, needs drilling platforms for off-shore drilling twice as deep as the Deepwater Horizon site.
Because the drilling will be occuring so deep, the owner of the platforms can charge so much more for the effort and stands to make a much larger profit per platform than they were bringing in for the U.S. sites.
In fact, the company that the drilling was to be set up for, Petrobras, was going to make an absolute killing off of all of the petroleum they werre expected to bring in. Did I happen to mention that George Soros is once again the head honcho involved here as the lead backer and greatest personal investor to Brazil's state run oil company, Petrobras.
So, either
(1) The Deepwater Horizon accident/disaster and Obama declaring a Gulf Drilling Moratorium (whereas Obama thought he was doing the right thing) was a stroke of luck for Soros - standing to make him an additional unheard of billions of dollars, or
(2) Obama was taking advantage of a nasty accident/disaster to give his friend a special gift, or
(3) While there is a disaster, there was never an "accident" at Deepwater Horizon. It was all set up and planned in advance by Soros in collusion with our President.
I realize that there are other possibilities here as well, but these are the three most likely options.
Isn't it such a shame for Mr. Soros that our Federal courts have rescinded the moratorium on Gulf oil drilling? I expect that he's fuming at the mouth today.
I find it particularly telling that the Left has remained curiously silent since the Petrobras link came to light.
Articles to support my comments:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,595091,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,595091,00.html)
http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2010/06/15/crime-inc-barack-obama-and-george-soros-seek-to-use-gulf-oil-spill-for-fun-and-profit/ (http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2010/06/15/crime-inc-barack-obama-and-george-soros-seek-to-use-gulf-oil-spill-for-fun-and-profit/)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2539381/posts (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2539381/posts)
theGinsue
06-23-2010, 12:52
Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/23/lawmakers-warn-administration-plan-unilaterally-grant-blanket-amnesty/
(http : // www . foxnews . com/politics/2010/06/23/lawmakers-warn-administration-plan-unilaterally-grant-blanket-amnesty/ (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/23/lawmakers-warn-administration-plan-unilaterally-grant-blanket-amnesty/))
GOP Lawmakers Warn of Administration Plan to Grant Amnesty to Illegal Immigrants
Published June 23, 2010
| FOXNews.com
Eight Republican senators and an independent group that supports tighter limits on immigration are warning that the Obama administration is drafting a plan to "unilaterally" issue blanket amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants as it struggles to win support in Congress for an overhaul of immigration laws.
The senators who wrote the White House on Monday say they are concerned that the administration is readying a "Plan B" in case a comprehensive reform bill cannot win enough support to clear Congress.
"It seems more real than just bullying (Republicans) into a bill -- that it's a plan that they can actually put forward ... circumventing Congress," an aide told FoxNews.com on Wednesday.
In their letter, the senators -- Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa; Orrin Hatch, R-Utah; David Vitter, R-La.; Jim Bunning, R-Ky.; Saxby Chambliss, Ga.; Johnny Isakson, R-Ga.; James Inhofe, R-Okla.; and Thad Cochran, R-Miss. -- urge the president to "abandon" what they say is a move to "unilaterally extend either deferred action or parole to millions of illegal aliens in the United States."
"Such a move would further erode the American public's confidence in the federal government and its commitment to securing the borders and enforcing the laws already on the books," they wrote.
Deferred action and parole, which give illegal immigrants the ability to seek a work permit and temporary legal status, are normally granted on a case-by-case basis. But the aide said the lawmakers have learned from "sources" that the administration is considering flexing its authority to grant the status on a mass basis.
Numbers USA, an organization that presses for lower immigration levels along with humanitarian treatment of illegal immigrants, has started a petition to the president expressing "outrage" at the alleged plan.
Rosemary Jenks, director of government relations with Numbers USA, said she's been hearing for weeks from "sources close to the Democratic leadership" in both chambers that administration officials are discussing whether the Department of Homeland Security could direct staff to grant "amnesty" for all illegal immigrants in the country.
"They're trying to figure out ways around a vote," she said.
"Any attempt to force an amnesty on the American people using this underhanded method smacks of despotism," reads the fax the group is urging supporters to sign.
The White House has not responded to a request for comment.
The Department of Homeland Security estimated last year that 10.8 million undocumented residents live in the United States; other estimates have ranged higher. Any move to grant blanket legal status, even temporary, would raise questions about how Homeland Security would be able to handle the caseload. Jenks said Congress certainly wouldn't grant the administration the funding for more caseworkers.
The purported discussions of a blanket amnesty come in the middle of several concurrent and heated debates over illegal immigration. The recently signed immigration law in Arizona has divided the country, with some states trying to replicate the state's tough legislation and other jurisdictions boycotting the state in protest. The Obama administration plans to file a court challenge.
Democrats, meanwhile, have been trying to round up support for an overhaul bill in Congress, and the Interior Department is facing renewed criticism from Republican lawmakers over restrictions it places on Border Patrol officers policing the border on federal lands. Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., shocked several Arizona residents last week when he told them that Obama had said he would not beef up border security because it would leave Republicans without an incentive to pass broader immigration reforms.
Jenks said the talks about Homeland Security allowing illegal immigrants to stay are "serious."
Under the law, immigration officials can grant deferred action to temporarily postpone removing an illegal immigrant from the country. That status does not offer a guarantee that they won't face deportation, but Jenks said illegal immigrants granted parole are often allowed to seek permanent legal status.
If a "Plan B" is being discussed, it's unclear how far along the talks might be. Another GOP Senate aide said the discussions started after Sens. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Richard Lugar, R-Ind., called on Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano in April to stop deportations of undocumented students who could earn legal status under a bill they introduced.
A Senate Democratic aide said the Obama administration never responded to the April letter.
theGinsue
06-24-2010, 16:42
What? Two great posts and nuthin? No responses at all?
Wow. I must be losing the gift.
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