New patrol rifle

[Cochese]

***update***

I can't leave well enough alone.

Built a 7.5 upper for this patrol rifle.

Just waiting for another NFA stamp now to put it on my "old" lower.

Noveske Diplomat barrel, 7.5"

Troy TRX Extreme 7.6" rail

Daniel Defense upper, to match my lower and the 14.5 upper currently in service.

DD fixed front and rear sights.

X300

EOTech XPS 3-0, cause it works.

BCM charging handle.

DD FA BCG

Noveske KX3 FS

VLTOR LPGB

Still need some KNS pins, a Magpul RSA and a nice SBR case for this sucker.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-SUavEPrf7wQ/TozjmCnXeAI/AAAAAAAADos/csCr0ug7ZaM/s912/IMG_20111005_165646.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-SBVL2Q9cK48/Tozjkxis1uI/AAAAAAAADoo/LXKnSXZk6BA/s912/IMG_20111005_165633.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WRrQ6fEYGRs/TozjqkuEb1I/AAAAAAAADo8/Bt91sy3iYIw/s912/IMG_20111005_165730.jpg



Sold my LMT.

Picked up a Daniel Defense upper and lower. This is my new patrol rifle.

Specs:

DD upper
DD lower
DDBCG
DD Buffer, tube/spring
DD 14.5 inch CHF LWP barrel
Surefire FH556-212A Flash hider/adapter (Surefire can QC/D)
VLTOR LPGB
BCM Gunfighter MOD 3
Magpul ASAP sling adapter
Magpul MBUS F/R
Magpul MOE stock
Magpul MOE grip
Magpul AFG
Magpul BAD
Surefire X-300 at 12 o'clock
Troy/Viking Tactics TRX Extreme lightweight 11 inch rail


This thing is so effin' light, I can't believe it.

I spent 2 hours on a homicide/barricade SWAT callout (responding patrolman) and ended up fielding a 6721 in various ready positions, fully expecting this ******* to pop out of an apartment with a shottie. I was so sore and bruised the next day from the 6721...

I have a new generation eXPS 3.0 on the way with a G23.FTS from EOTech. Should be here in a week or so. I haven't decided whether to run the magnifier on a patrolman's setup yet. Either way, it should be super light, even with an optic. I'm excited. I paid exactly what I sold my LMT/EOTech 5.12 for, so it was worth it.

If you need to buy anything for an AR platform, go to www.rainierarms.com

John and Mike are experts, super nice guys and have great pricing for LEOs.

Oh, pics...

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-HkQ_LVjiBYE/TZMAhOMMfdI/AAAAAAAACso/rgy-MI6IDuk/s1152/IMAG0001.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bO47SuTOCCw/TZMBdKdTYsI/AAAAAAAACso/HaNJ7Ynx07E/s1152/IMAG0006.jpg



DDA4 Upper: $108
DD FA-BCG: $145
Magpul MOE grip: $19
Magpul MOE stock and buffer kit: $115
Gas tube: $12
DD Lower: $146
DD barrel (14.5 lightweight/pencil) $269
DD LPK: $86
Rail: $199
BCM CH: $43
VLTOR gas block: $59
Magpul ASAP: $28
MBUS sights: $55 F/R
AFG: $30
X300: $199
EXPS 3.0 and G23.FTS: $620
Pig sling: $45

$2,178

Sold my old patrol rifle (LMT) for $1,800. Not counting theextra I paid for the G23.FTS, I put $87 into this gun. :)

[bjl913]

Looks like you built a badass gun for a badass price! I am sure it will serve you well!

[cowboykjohnson]

Looks good!

[spleify]

Nice firearm! Great job

[Byte Stryke]

First, Thank you.

Secondly, what kind of optics are you going with?

Fine looking weapon.
I am very jealous.

[BadShot]

First, Thank you.

Secondly, what kind of optics are you going with?


Said he was going with an EOTech XPS 3.0

... damn fine looking rifle, all I might suggest is that you change the MOE Stock for the full locking CTR, That way you can mark it or train to know when you need to extend or drop it depending on if you're having to use heavier armor or other chest type gear that might affect your LOP. I prefer the ability to lock the stock in place, YMMV :)

Also out of curiosity, Why the EOTech? They are great, my prefered optic and the XPS resolves 90% of the EOTech short comings vs. the AimPoint T/H-1's. Except for battery life. 2 hours on a barricade isn't fun and isn't going to be the reason to swap your batteries, but the T/H-1's have that STUPID forever frakking battery life and there's something to be said for that. Being able to leave it on all the time and only have to change the battery every couple of years, well I'm still an XPS fan, love mine, especially the smaller form factor!

Still man, kick ass setup, very kiss ass, this will serve you well! I love the way you've go the X300 setup at the 12 o'clock. The MP BUIS, do you have experience with these? I'm not convinced that I'd run them on work gun vs. something like Troy's, but to me it's about long term durability and the MBUIS hasn't had enough work time (plenty of hobbyist time sure) IMHO.

And yes, the guys at Rainier are frakking awesome, they modded my Saber with the PWS piston system, adding the rail and PWS FSC 556 and tuning the fit all around. And they did it with less than a weeks turn-around! High praise for them if you can't get Rob down at Bowers to make time for ya :)

Still, I'll be the first to ask..

CAN I HAVE IT?!?!?! [Beer]

[Byte Stryke]

Said he was going with an EOTech XPS 3.0

I See that now.. Missed it on the first read.

Must have more coffee

[Coffee]

[Cochese]

Bump with update in post #1.

7.5" upper!

[mcantar18c]

You mentioned an SBR case.... just FYI, a tennis racket bag holds an AK and a couple mags like it was meant for it, and it doesn't scream "hey look I have an SBR in here." Whether this will work with an AR since the stock doesn't fold, I have no idea, but then again I've never seen one that short so...

[Cochese]

You mentioned an SBR case.... just FYI, a tennis racket bag holds an AK and a couple mags like it was meant for it, and it doesn't scream "hey look I have an SBR in here." Whether this will work with an AR since the stock doesn't fold, I have no idea, but then again I've never seen one that short so...

Interesting.

If I need to whack someone on the sly, imma try it. :D

I was thinking about this for work though:

http://www.laruetactical.com/covert-rifle-case

Or this:

http://www.midwayusa.com/Product/386849/blackhawk-homeland-security-discreet-tactical-rifle-gun-case-hk94-mp-5-29-nylon-black

Or this:

http://www.amazon.com/US-PeaceKeeper-Short-Barelled-26-Inch/dp/B0044YGCFA

If I do the top one, I will config it to hold my SBR and a Serbu Super Shorty (If I ever get my stamps!)

[mcantar18c]

Fancy, but... eh, not worth the price tags IMO (even the last one, because its fugly). If you must get one of those, get the LaRue in blue... stay away from "tactical colors"... what's the point of a covert rifle case that give away what's in them?
If I can't take the gun anywhere I want, in front of any crowd of people be them sheep or SWAT, without raising eyebrows, then I don't see how it can be called a "covert gun case." Sometimes, the best camouflage is to hide in plain sight. I've found that the tennis racket bags work great for folding stock AKs, camping chair bags work great for ARs and shotguns, and lacrosse stick bags for long range stuff.
(Sorry, no pics of lacrosse bag).

There's room for potentially 4 more mags in here, though that's crowding it a bit...
http://www.warriortalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15404&d=1306676562
http://www.warriortalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15403&d=1306676559

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/Snake122/100_1649.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/Snake122/100_1651.jpg

[Bailey Guns]

My, how times have changed. My first (and last) patrol rifle was a Colt SP1 carbine w/2 position stock, GI sling and A1 rear sights. For me it was the perfect rifle and it served me well...very simple and nothing hanging on it to snag anything or get bumped outta whack. And, it was very light and easy to carry for those extended times on a perimeter, etc...

I wish A1 sights and thin barrels were still common.

[Cochese]

Fancy, but... eh, not worth the price tags IMO (even the last one, because its fugly). If you must get one of those, get the LaRue in blue... stay away from "tactical colors"... what's the point of a covert rifle case that give away what's in them?
If I can't take the gun anywhere I want, in front of any crowd of people be them sheep or SWAT, without raising eyebrows, then I don't see how it can be called a "covert gun case." Sometimes, the best camouflage is to hide in plain sight. I've found that the tennis racket bags work great for folding stock AKs, camping chair bags work great for ARs and shotguns, and lacrosse stick bags for long range stuff.
(Sorry, no pics of lacrosse bag).

There's room for potentially 4 more mags in here, though that's crowding it a bit...
http://www.warriortalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15404&d=1306676562
http://www.warriortalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15403&d=1306676559

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/Snake122/100_1649.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/Snake122/100_1651.jpg

To clarify, I do not need a stealthy case. I don't give a rats ass what it looks like either. For me, it needs to protect my patrol rifle and maybe a short 870 from the contents of my police car trunk. It will be traveling from the PD, across our parking lot, into a patrol car.

I just want a small case so it doesn't flop around inside. I appreciate your links and viewpoints. You make a sound argument if I were going in and out of public ranges, etc.

Fact is, I am a department armorer and instructor, so I can use the PD private range. Covert is not a requirement.


My, how times have changed. My first (and last) patrol rifle was a Colt SP1 carbine w/2 position stock, GI sling and A1 rear sights. For me it was the perfect rifle and it served me well...very simple and nothing hanging on it to snag anything or get bumped outta whack. And, it was very light and easy to carry for those extended times on a perimeter, etc...

I wish A1 sights and thin barrels were still common.

I love thin barrels. I also love lightweight and simple.

The 14.5 inch upper pictured is sporting a Daniel Defense cold hammer forged pencil profile barrel.

Both of these are sporting the minimum required equipment for a patrol rifle at my agency.

Must have back up sights, a sling, and a light. The optic is personal preference but I have used one since 2007. I am used to it now.

No bipods, no excessive 1913 surface, no lasers, no huge VFG, no magcoupler, etc.

And lighter than our issued 6721s with 6Ps and slings.
:D

[mcantar18c]

To clarify, I do not need a stealthy case. I don't give a rats ass what it looks like either. For me, it needs to protect my patrol rifle and maybe a short 870 from the contents of my police car trunk. It will be traveling from the PD, across our parking lot, into a patrol car.

I just want a small case so it doesn't flop around inside. I appreciate your links and viewpoints. You make a sound argument if I were going in and out of public ranges, etc.

Fact is, I am a department armorer and instructor, so I can use the PD private range. Covert is not a requirement.

Ah, I was mistaken. The cases you linked all have "covert" and "discreet" in the descriptions so I assumed that's what you were going for.
I'd probably go for something with a hard shell if I was looking to protect them from knocking around in a trunk.

[Cochese]

I've thought about that too.

Decisions decisions. :D