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Who else is on unemployment? Anyone else get cut off while no jobs can be found? Do you want to join me in writing letter to our "reps" to get the Unemployment extended?
Senators
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Here is how you find the house reps in congress. Since there are so many of them you have to enter you zip to find which congress critter represents you.
https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml
Please help and send an email to all your reps. Thank you and god bless.
ghettodub
07-15-2010, 14:37
I was for a while last year, and fortunately i'm employed now. Good luck on the job hunt
I was cut off. I am now worried about not paying mortgage and other bills. I have given up on food and nosh on Ramon Noodles for survival. But it doesn't matter if I can't tread water until full time work comes through. If you can send a message to our reps on my behalf even if you are working and stress the importance of unemployment insurance to those that work but got fired for what ever reason and the need to continue it.
IMHO they love spending money they just need direction to send it to those that need it.
Thanks for any help you can do.
David
What kind of work do you do?
H.
Byte Stryke
07-15-2010, 15:27
What kind of work do you do?
H.
Almost anything that Pays....
^^^^ That!
But I am a driver a welder, mechanic, going to school to study Computer Network Systems at ITT. But lately I've been pimping myself out to cougers for free. So its been more like practice.
I joke but at the same time I'm worried to death.
ChunkyMonkey
07-15-2010, 15:55
^^^^ That!
But I am a driver a welder, mechanic, going to school to study Computer Network Systems at ITT. But lately I've been pimping myself out to cougers for free. So its been more like practice.
I joke but at the same time I'm worried to death.
Plenty of yobs out there. But you must have an accent and willing to live on third world standard! [Bang]
I wish. Even turd world standards have extra money for booze and a pick up for scrap metal. I'm driving my motorcycle around since my Mustang is in parts and my truck isn't plated because Gov. Ritter thought it would be a good idea and raise taxes on transportation and instead of making 140 for plates they are without 240. But I digress.
I'm trying to make life better for myself so I can raise my kids like spoiled brats but the way things are going it looks like another generation of humble kids are in the works. THANKS Obama, thanks a lot you asshole.
StagLefty
07-15-2010, 16:17
Your not alone DOC. The only thing I have going is I just signed up the end of March so I'm not into extension land yet. Hopefully you'll get extended but it's rough trying to find something right now. I'll join your e-mails though and hopefully someone will listen. [Beer]
Thanks. I seen on TV where they have jobs they compared Unemployment Insurance to welfare or stimulation for the economy Falsely. Its more like throwing people that were working and got fired because their employer couldn't pay them anymore a life saver. Its not welfare or SSI. I would rather work for what I got and I would make more money if I working anyway.
^^^^ That!
But I am a driver a welder, mechanic, going to school to study Computer Network Systems at ITT. But lately I've been pimping myself out to cougers for free. So its been more like practice.
I joke but at the same time I'm worried to death.
A word of caution. ITT is Nationally accredited. The one that counts is regionally accredited - so your credits won't transfer or count toward any continuing education.
For the cost of an ITT AS, you could get almost a full 4 year BS at a state school - or at least the same number of credits at a community college in Comp Sci classes.
Luckily, I got caught up in the hiring boom before Y2K and got my student loan paid off. Then again, I had a job before going in - today I'd guess their placement rate is very, very low for jobs that would pay over $12/hour.
Be sure you are looking for a job in the field before you get out, as that note will come due sooner than you think.
Byte Stryke
07-15-2010, 16:51
" I am sorry sir, but we are looking for someone that can speak Spanish."
Seriously, I was told this at an Interview.
I am a Systems/Network and Firewall administrator and an Information security technician.
I know Construction, Plumbing, Tile (Stone, Ceramic, Porcelain) and Drive almost anything with varying degrees of proficiency.
I can do Vehicle recovery and I'm pretty sure I can still operate an M88 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M88_Recovery_Vehicle) if required :D
Doc:
Which Campus?
I Graduated my AAS in 05 from Thornton Left in the middle of my IIS to go to the sandbox in 06
" I am sorry sir, but we are looking for someone that can speak Spanish."
i have been searching for almost a year and cant count the times i have heard this.
spent 6 years on a forklift in a lumberyard for a fence supply company, was let go 4 months after my first kid was born. went from $17 an hour to spending my days kissing ass trying to get part time work for half that just so i can feed my family, only to be shot down time and time again for being "over qualified" or non Spanish speaking.
have had a few interviews lately and they seem to be more interested in why i don't have a new job after almost a year than they are with my qualifications. i am not really sure how to respond when they ask why, i have been grinding pretty much nonstop since last July, hours a day and am averaging around 25 new applications a week that go unanswered.
about the only thing i have going for me at the moment is that most of my shit is paid off, have 3 more payments on my truck, and when that's done all i have are utilities, food and rent.
Thumbs up on extension.
We need to get the consumer confidence up. That is dragging our economy, wall st, and possible future hiring.
One argument against my statement is people who are on Unemployment will mainly pay for necessities , basic bills , and rent/mortgage. However, it is funny to see tons of people buying 55" LCD TV at WMT/BBY/COST.
Byte Stryke
07-15-2010, 19:32
Thumbs up on extension.
We need to get the consumer confidence up. That is dragging our economy, wall st, and possible future hiring.
One argument against my statement is people who are on Unemployment will mainly pay for necessities , basic bills , and rent/mortgage. However, it is funny to see tons of people buying 55" LCD TV at WMT/BBY/COST.
Killing Unemployment insurance because of a few fucktards abusing the System is like banning guns because of a few fucktards abusing the system.
Let's not cut off our noses to spite our face. Stopping unemployment isn't going to hurt those people. It will hurt the families that do not have other incomes, the ones that will need the money to buy gas to get to interviews.
Are you saying that people buying LCD tv's are unemployed? I'm not sure I follow.
I am really up in the air on ths unemployment extension.
I know some of you are not welfare want'a'bes and would work if you could get a job, I feel for you and dont wnat you to loose your homes.
We cant afford to keep this up and I feel it creates more permenant welfare people in the end if its keep up to long.
I think its 2 years now that some people have had a free ride, and this is borrowed money we dont have. If they can cut some pork or use the unspent bailout money for this then that would help me be ok with the extensions.
So when do we stop the extensions? Do we keep it up for 3 more years or 5 or just another 6 months?
Are you saying that people buying LCD tv's are unemployed? I'm not sure I follow.
I should've used the new paragraph. My bad for confusion.
I was thinking that can boost consumer confidence.
Unemployment recepients tend to buy necessities and pay bills. I am not too sure Unemployment recepients can boost our consumer confidence per dollar bases relative to others.
I do see some non-unemployment receipients (hard working people) purchasing luxury goods at electronic stores ever. Maybe because TV might be close to durable goods, and avg consumer just want to upgrade their goods.
Thumbs up on extension.
We need to get the consumer confidence up. That is dragging our economy, wall st, and possible future hiring.
One argument against my statement is people who are on Unemployment will mainly pay for necessities , basic bills , and rent/mortgage. However, it is funny to see tons of people buying 55" LCD TV at WMT/BBY/COST.
Killing Unemployment insurance because of a few fucktards abusing the System is like banning guns because of a few fucktards abusing the system.
Let's not cut off our noses to spite our face. Stopping unemployment isn't going to hurt those people. It will hurt the families that do not have other incomes, the ones that will need the money to buy gas to get to interviews.
I favor extension, because there are tons of people who really really need the $ to pay rent and food on the table with that unemployment benefit.
Hopefully unemployment benefit ext can boost our consumer confidence as well. We really need to boost that up to get the economy going.
Byte Stryke
07-15-2010, 22:18
well I can tell you one thing for sure.
as it stands now I am paying rent, Medical insurance and groceries with the funds I receive that were payed in by myself and my employers over the last 27 years of my working career. Yes this is my first time on unemployment ever.
Now, Should that come to a halt I will be living in Government assisted housing on Tax Dollars.
I will be eating on Food Stamps and WIC on Tax Dollars.
and drawing welfare on Tax Dollars.
Not to mention that then the few items that I Do purchase with currency that I can spare will not be purchased, couple that with the millions of other people that would be cut off and POW... Consumer spending is down further.
Depression.
about 30% of you that now HAVE jobs would lose them.
Lets remember how we got into this shit. People quit spending money because Mortgages went nuts.
People got laid off.
More people quit spending money.
property values plummeted.
more people got laid off, etc
I know its a tad more complicated than that, but as far as it pertains to the argument at hand, close enough.
350 a week is hardly enough to be running out buying bigscreens
blackford76
07-15-2010, 22:36
David is a good guy, and he isn't abusing the system.
There are way more people looking for work than jobs available.
I am sick of being told that I'm "over qualified". I was released for work again last October and haven't found shit. Unless I want to drive 60+ miles one way for $10 an hour for a 40 hour/week job, sorry, but that wont pay for gas.
Unenployment pays crap, so the thought that people can abuse the system and survive boggles my mind.
I didn't file for unemployment untill this April, figured I'd find a job. My payments from unemployment fall $750 a month short of just my house and car payment, forget food and utilities.
The only reason my family isn't living in a box under a bridge somewhere is I get an odd job here and there that manages to just keep us above water.
Thanks for the kind words Rob. I haven't spent money on any luxury like TV's, new clothes or cars. I did bring my mustang out of retirement just to save on gas. But the engine went bad and I has to change it. (I had one laying around for this very purpose) I don't have all the parts I need or the money to buy them so now I'm driving my bike. The first gear is out too. I'm squeaking by just barely. If the gov. wants to help I'm to the point where I will let them. I'm still trying to get a real job and be independent again.
I'm going to ITT in Thornton and I hope that with the right grades I can go into a better job that pays $20 an hour. It could happen with the right education.
well I can tell you one thing for sure.
as it stands now I am paying rent, Medical insurance and groceries with the funds I receive that were payed in by myself and my employers over the last 27 years of my working career. Yes this is my first time on unemployment ever.
Now, Should that come to a halt I will be living in Government assisted housing on Tax Dollars.
I will be eating on Food Stamps and WIC on Tax Dollars.
and drawing welfare on Tax Dollars.
Not to mention that then the few items that I Do purchase with currency that I can spare will not be purchased, couple that with the millions of other people that would be cut off and POW... Consumer spending is down further.
Depression.
about 30% of you that now HAVE jobs would lose them.
Lets remember how we got into this shit. People quit spending money because Mortgages went nuts.
People got laid off.
More people quit spending money.
property values plummeted.
more people got laid off, etc
I know its a tad more complicated than that, but as far as it pertains to the argument at hand, close enough.
350 a week is hardly enough to be running out buying bigscreens
I just want to clearify this. As I said on previous post, I was linking Consumer confidence with LCD TV, not unemployment receipient.
One of my family member is on tier3 right now.
For a long @ss time, I didn't have a job either. I also worked at a low wage job at retailers after benefit lapsed. This was before the extension.
I applied and applied. Out of 100 resumes, I get 3-4 serious offers. I got so tired of sending customized resume, I start sending out generic resumes.
What made me unhappy was, I make it to 3rd interviews and not even get a phone call afterward. I drove 25miles 1 way 3 times (total of 6x25miles) just to get rejected. It truly SUCKS. I later found out this company and I had a different idea of business.
Now they trade $1.10/sr at NASDAQ, and about to get delisted. :D
My unemployment was lapsing, and I had to find a job. That is when I applied at Dick's Sporting Goods at Flatiron. $9.54/hr... :(
Making long story short, I work somewhere else. I work grave yard shift, and work 38-40hr/week. I make significantly less than what I use to.
Although I do have a job, I am still looking. I will be extremely happy (and dance on the floor) if I find a job that pays me 70% of what I use to get paid.
David is a good guy, and he isn't abusing the system.
There are way more people looking for work than jobs available.
I am sick of being told that I'm "over qualified". I was released for work again last October and haven't found shit. Unless I want to drive 60+ miles one way for $10 an hour for a 40 hour/week job, sorry, but that wont pay for gas.
Unenployment pays crap, so the thought that people can abuse the system and survive boggles my mind.
I didn't file for unemployment untill this April, figured I'd find a job. My payments from unemployment fall $750 a month short of just my house and car payment, forget food and utilities.
The only reason my family isn't living in a box under a bridge somewhere is I get an odd job here and there that manages to just keep us above water.
Thanks for the kind words Rob. I haven't spent money on any luxury like TV's, new clothes or cars. I did bring my mustang out of retirement just to save on gas. But the engine went bad and I has to change it. (I had one laying around for this very purpose) I don't have all the parts I need or the money to buy them so now I'm driving my bike. The first gear is out too. I'm squeaking by just barely. If the gov. wants to help I'm to the point where I will let them. I'm still trying to get a real job and be independent again.
I'm going to ITT in Thornton and I hope that with the right grades I can go into a better job that pays $20 an hour. It could happen with the right education.
I know how you feel...I was barely hanging on. Landed a job last week. Even after getting paid today, Im still going to be overdrawn tomorrow before I can buy gas.
I was honestly about to try to join up to with the military when I landed this job.
I'm in a similar position as many of you.
All we have left anymore is our hope and what change we have in our pockets...
I hope I don't become homeless. I hope my luck changes. I guess this is what it takes to keep people like me from bitching about gov. It won't end well for them in Nov. record numbers of homeless are going to be out voting. I need some good luck. The only thing that make me smile in weeks is a friend told me she could get me a old laptop for school. She swears the battery is good and it made me happy to hear. But then I learn that the Federal Gov will be taking over my student loans. Now they own the colleges and the money side. Oh well I'm going to get ahead one day and save like Warren Buffet.
You guys confirm my fears that your already just getting by and if the extension is not passed and we start to let people come off the benfits, we could easily see a large surge in the following 12 months of people becoming homeless and/or mega poor which I believe may increase the crime rate for theft and robbery as people have no other way to survive.
I did work at a retail store for a while. I was getting 20 hours to start and all of a sudden after the holidays it got cut down to 10 hours. I had to go back to Unemployment and its been slow from then until now.
I know this can happen to anyone. I've seen it happen.
I see Qwest is hiring people to work in Littleton, CO for "Sales and Service Consultant."
Its job id 814BR.
Go here https://sjobs.brassring.com/1033/ASP/TG/cim_home.asp?partnerid=25281&siteid=5342 and click on "search openings" then on the next page in the "keyword" field enter 814BR and leave all the other fields as they are and select search and it will come up.
Hopefully it helps someone here.
For the cost of an ITT AS, you could get almost a full 4 year BS at a state school - or at least the same number of credits at a community college in Comp Sci classes.
This. ITT is incredibly expensive. It's privately owned. You can get 100% of MIT's courses online for free. That, naturally, won't give you a degree, but it has been my experience that companies prefer to hire people with skills rather than people with degrees. You could go through the MIT courses, and/or work to gain real world experience, while you're unemployed and then resume college courses via distance-learning or a local community college and save yourself a ton of money.
I'm not an IT network guy, but I know that the Cisco certifications are the most commonly sought in networking. Unlike unix administration or programming, I don't know of a cheap way to get hands-on experience with a bunch of real networking gear. eBaying an old cheap router and switch and building a development network would be one way to go, but not a great solution in your current circumstance.
You could start up 3 or 4 server instances at Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud at $0.10/hr, and configure them to run unix based emulators of network equipment. Learning iptables, packetfilter, haproxy. Anyway, random thoughts while I have my morning coffee, good luck.
H.
If your not an IT guy Hoosier you should could fake it. :)
Well I applied. We'll see what happens!
Byte Stryke
07-16-2010, 11:03
This. ITT is incredibly expensive. It's privately owned. You can get 100% of MIT's courses online for free. That, naturally, won't give you a degree, but it has been my experience that companies prefer to hire people with skills rather than people with degrees. You could go through the MIT courses, and/or work to gain real world experience, while you're unemployed and then resume college courses via distance-learning or a local community college and save yourself a ton of money.
I'm not an IT network guy, but I know that the Cisco certifications are the most commonly sought in networking. Unlike unix administration or programming, I don't know of a cheap way to get hands-on experience with a bunch of real networking gear. eBaying an old cheap router and switch and building a development network would be one way to go, but not a great solution in your current circumstance.
You could start up 3 or 4 server instances at Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud at $0.10/hr, and configure them to run unix based emulators of network equipment. Learning iptables, packetfilter, haproxy. Anyway, random thoughts while I have my morning coffee, good luck.
H.
we had a CCIE/MSCE/RHCE come in when we were in Kuwait. The guy must have been REALLY good at taking tests er something.
We sent him home on his dime after he shut down the virtual routers in the netscreen 500 and then shut down the management interfaces.
[Eek2]
most employers these days are hiring experience over certs.
anyone can cram for an exams, but can you actually DO the work?
back to topic, Certs are nice but experience is better :D
If your not an IT guy Hoosier you should could fake it. :)
I am an IT guy
H.
They voted on it in the senate Tuesday. Wednesday they are sending it to our congress critters to vote on then it goes to our empty suit in charge for his signature. Why am I bitter sounding? Well you may hear that the GOP blocked it because they don't care about laid off workers. Well they wanted to use the unused stimulus package (and we are all feeling the effect from that package) and not add to the deficet that is going to sell America to the Chinese for pennies on the dollar. But I am glad that it will pass for my own selfish preservation.
I would be blasting the dems from my box on the street via my laptop on a pilfered wifi connection.
I am so depressed help me out with my mustang. Thanks.
I say we get China to take all the debt they can, then we nuke them out of existance, make it look like a terrorist attack...bam, there goes like a third of our national debt...
LOL that was funny and plausible.
But I am glad that it will pass for my own selfish preservation.
I would be blasting the dems from my box on the street via my laptop on a pilfered wifi connection.
That's how I felt when I voted for the casino change in Colorado, then later found out what they actually did to make the change. I'm still happy for the casino change though. Good luck.
That's how I felt when I voted for the casino change in Colorado, then later found out what they actually did to make the change. I'm still happy for the casino change though. Good luck.
What do you mean?
ChunkyMonkey
07-21-2010, 00:51
I say we get China to take all the debt they can, then we nuke them out of existance, make it look like a terrorist attack...bam, there goes like a third of our national debt...
$13.1 Trillion Debt and out of it, China carries close to $1 trillion. Much less than you said, but in case of major catastrophe event, they will sell off our bond in a hurry and in turn will spike up your morning donut into $12 per dozen. [Bang]
It was something with changing the Colorado constitution in order to change the casino laws. I don't remember exactly, but I think it was unnecessary to change the constitution, just to change a few gambling restrictions. Plus they had all that crap with college funding attached to it as well. In the end, I get to play craps and roulette 24 hours a day and bet up to $100 at a time.
It was something with changing the Colorado constitution in order to change the casino laws. I don't remember exactly, but I think it was unnecessary to change the constitution, just to change a few gambling restrictions. Plus they had all that crap with college funding attached to it as well. In the end, I get to play craps and roulette 24 hours a day and bet up to $100 at a time.
My current girl "friend" wants to go up to blackhawk to have some fun and get away from her kids for a few days. She also wants to smoke indoor (shutter hitler....). So thank you for making colorado fun. And seriously i'm going to fix this snafu if I run and get elected to office. I will be the first rep to kick the shit out of a hippy just to prevent Colorado from becoming a haven for dipshits.
Can't smoke indoors at the casinos anymore.
It seems to me that the only jobs left these days are the Walmart/McDonnalds type. Don't wanna pay you shit, then hire twice as many people as they need so you don't get any hours either.
All of our manufacturing jobs have been exported overseas, all of the trade jobs have been taken over by illegals, etc. etc. etc... How's a man supposed to make a decent living?
spencerhenry
07-21-2010, 06:50
extend unemployment benefits? is 99 weeks not enough time to find a job? i am certain there are jobs out there, it is question of weather or not you get more money from the government or from a job. i had a hard time finding someone to work for me, the first guy didnt show up and "couldnt help me", the second guy worked for 2 days and then disappeared, the third guy is working well. he is early 20's and apparently is willing to work for a living. getting money from the government for almost 2 years while looking for a job is getting pretty darn close to socialism/ welfare.
i havent taken a paycheck from my company for 4 years. i know i could find a job, it may not pay what i am used to, but there are jobs.
StagLefty
07-21-2010, 07:19
^ I'm not out of work by choice and millions of people out of work spells a bigger problem than just people wanting to collect unemployment for 99 weeks.
hurley842002
07-21-2010, 09:04
It seems to me that the only jobs left these days are the Walmart/McDonnalds type. Don't wanna pay you shit, then hire twice as many people as they need so you don't get any hours either.
All of our manufacturing jobs have been exported overseas, all of the trade jobs have been taken over by illegals, etc. etc. etc... How's a man supposed to make a decent living?
Comment not aimed at you personally Anton, I don't know your current situation, only aimed at your comment. It seems to me, that if you are collecting tax payers money, I don't give a crap if the only job available is working at a pig farm for minimum wage. Now I don't doubt, a majority of the unemployed on this forum, are actively seeking employment. What I do know, is there are LOTS of people out there, that REFUSE to work at Mc D's or Wally World, because their pride will not let them (I happen to know a few of these people), and they are collecting unemployment. I was brought up, that it doesn't matter if you are asking "would you like that super sized" or "welcome to Wal-Mart", as long as you are earning your own money, and not leeching off of the Tax Payers.
I would be blasting the dems from my box on the street via my laptop on a pilfered wifi connection.
Why would you be blasting the Democrat party if this fails? It's the GOP that's blocking it.
H.
hurley842002
07-21-2010, 09:13
Oh, BTW it looks like the Filibuster was broken.
It seems to me that the only jobs left these days are the Walmart/McDonnalds type. Don't wanna pay you shit, then hire twice as many people as they need so you don't get any hours either.
All of our manufacturing jobs have been exported overseas, all of the trade jobs have been taken over by illegals, etc. etc. etc... How's a man supposed to make a decent living?
I worked for Burger King from Nov 07 to April 09. Made some good money there as a shift manager. Was pulling down about $500 every two weeks, plus $100 bonuses every time we passed an inspection...made more serving up burgers than I have in the IT industry...
I have an interview today. I maybe off this gravy train of unemployment soon. But the last job that had was seasonal and part time. Its not as easy to find a full time job as you'd think. Wal-Mart and other Mcjobs are a waste of time period. If they paid enough to live on I would be all over it like I am with UPS. Its not about who pays the most either. Its about who pays enough. My last job while part time and low pay was fun although I had to deal with dipshits like a race baiting latino who started every conversation with I'm the store manager. Or the little dick ginger guy that didn't know shit about cars but was good at abusing his power. And when confronted about it would CALL THE POLICE for protection. No matter how you brought it to his attention. All that for minimum wage count me in just to get off unemployment. But it wasn't paying the bills sorry.
Yeah, getting a job that pays less than unemployment is unacceptable. Fortunately it hasn't gotten bad enough for me to take a job that pays me less than what I owe in bills every month, but then again, I haven't been unemployed for very long. Also fortunately, the job market in my industry is really picking up again.
Byte Stryke
07-21-2010, 21:52
extend unemployment benefits? is 99 weeks not enough time to find a job? i am certain there are jobs out there, it is question of weather or not you get more money from the government or from a job. i had a hard time finding someone to work for me, the first guy didnt show up and "couldnt help me", the second guy worked for 2 days and then disappeared, the third guy is working well. he is early 20's and apparently is willing to work for a living. getting money from the government for almost 2 years while looking for a job is getting pretty darn close to socialism/ welfare.
i havent taken a paycheck from my company for 4 years. i know i could find a job, it may not pay what i am used to, but there are jobs.
Fucking Lucky you....
"I'm Sorry sir, you are overqualified."
"I'm Sorry, we need someone fluent in Spanish."
I hope you are never in my shoes.
My Son would starve.
extend unemployment benefits? is 99 weeks not enough time to find a job? i am certain there are jobs out there, it is question of weather or not you get more money from the government or from a job. i had a hard time finding someone to work for me, the first guy didnt show up and "couldnt help me", the second guy worked for 2 days and then disappeared, the third guy is working well. he is early 20's and apparently is willing to work for a living. getting money from the government for almost 2 years while looking for a job is getting pretty darn close to socialism/ welfare.
i havent taken a paycheck from my company for 4 years. i know i could find a job, it may not pay what i am used to, but there are jobs.
i was pretty confident i could get a job too, until i couldn't, the job market is booming when you have one. i cashed in my 401k and lived off of that before i even started collecting unemployment. i dont want the extension at all, but if it means i can guarantee that my kid will eat when there is no guarantee i will land a job, ill take it.
as far as not taking a low paying job, i (and im sure most in this thread) will take anything i can get if it will cover my rent and feed my family, fast food/minimum wage i may as well move into my fucking car, or better yet section 8 housing, where does that money come from?
spencerhenry
07-22-2010, 07:01
i have cut my expenses down to nothing. have those of you here complaining that the available jobs dont "pay enough" done so.
i dont buy beer, i dont go to town unless i have to. i dont eat fast food, i dont go out for dinner, i buy generic everything, i sold my old truck, i have sold several guns, i have sold all the extra brass i can part with, i dig lead out of the range and melt it down to sell, i have sold more stuff on ebay than i can remember.
if you are really broke, just trying to feed your family, do you still shoot? do you still have cable tv, wireless internet, cell phone? people make choices, but have gotten to a point in this country where not only do you need enough money to "feed" your family, but you feel you are entitled to survive AND have tv, cell phone, beer, fast food, hobbies, etc... try eliminating everything that you dont NEED to survive and you will be surprised at how little you really need.
i have no doubt that there are people out there that cant make ends meet, but i think most people are not there yet. with this president and congress you will need to make changes now as it is only going to get worse in the next 6 to 9 months.
spencerhenry
07-22-2010, 07:07
Fucking Lucky you....
"I'm Sorry sir, you are overqualified."
"I'm Sorry, we need someone fluent in Spanish."
I hope you are never in my shoes.
My Son would starve.
i am wrong or were you looking for a new scope or something about a month and a half ago?
StagLefty
07-22-2010, 07:07
And for those of us that are looking the reality is that it's an Employer's market.The wages that are being offered for the same jobs of a few years ago is almost criminal. None of my monthly bills have decreased but the wages sure have. When I saw what was coming I cashed in insurance dividends and paid of all car loans and any outstanding balances. When I say monthly bills I mean just what makes my household run. I'll make it all work somehow but please don't tell me about how many jobs are out there when you have no idea what's going on. Rant off-[Beer]
Just saw your new post-I don't have fast speed,no cell,cut back on groceries wants, etc. But I've also found time to help out church programs to help people that are worse of than myself. The only reason I mention that is because I'm not laying around cashing my unemployment checks. I'm trying to stay positive no matter how bad I think it is.
I feel for those out of work, I know it's tough on families especially. I'm a hard working guy but find myself posting up on Craigslist pretty regularly for jobs around the house that I normally do myself (mowing, yardwork, that kind of stuff) just simply because there are so many folks down on their luck. I've been fortunate to find some great people who are hard workers come and take me up on my offer. Craigslist is a turkey shoot, I'll post an ad like "$40 to mow my lawn and pick some weeds", get about 200 replies and only about 15 people who will actually show up for two hours of work.
i have cut my expenses down to nothing. have those of you here complaining that the available jobs dont "pay enough" done so.
i dont buy beer, i dont go to town unless i have to. i dont eat fast food, i dont go out for dinner, i buy generic everything, i sold my old truck, i have sold several guns, i have sold all the extra brass i can part with, i dig lead out of the range and melt it down to sell, i have sold more stuff on ebay than i can remember.
if you are really broke, just trying to feed your family, do you still shoot? do you still have cable tv, wireless internet, cell phone? people make choices, but have gotten to a point in this country where not only do you need enough money to "feed" your family, but you feel you are entitled to survive AND have tv, cell phone, beer, fast food, hobbies, etc... try eliminating everything that you dont NEED to survive and you will be surprised at how little you really need.
i have no doubt that there are people out there that cant make ends meet, but i think most people are not there yet. with this president and congress you will need to make changes now as it is only going to get worse in the next 6 to 9 months.
My power was shut off. Its still off any were are going into the 4th day. I have to pay a judgement now against a former roomate that trashed my apartment then wanted his deposit back. And instead of me collecting the money I was out I have to pay them. There is no food in the house not that we could cook it. And I think we are getting a bug problem. Nope things couldn't be better for me since unemployment insurance ran out. I don't have cable but my brother who is working put me on his friends and family plan for $10 a month so I have phone in case one of those employers calls. My women left me after she tried to kill me.
Yep things are going great!!
I feel for people but I also see many jobs go unfilled and see those that will not take work that is "below them".
At my house no work is below me, I will do what needs to be done and go where I have to go.
I travel to North Dakota for work often, we can not find local help so we fly out of Denver. We have tried to source locals but the unemployment rate in ND is under 5% and most everyone who wants to work has work.
You walk thru Minot or Dickenson and Help Wanted signs are everywhere. I tell this to my unemployed brother-in-law but he will not move because despite being without a job for close to 2 years he still wants that Califorinia lifestyle.
I think that most of the time you make your own luck.
I've reduced cell phone, and don't have to pay for internet. Good luck trying to land a job with no phone or email though. Last time I was laid off I went around town showing up to places in person. Every single place I went was always the same story, "You have to go to our website and apply there."
Looking for a job is certainly rough, especially if you primarily look in your field of expertise. Fortunately, companies are starting to hire again in my line of work, but there are so many unemployed people out there, that it's not much easier to get in. I applied at this company back in 2008 and was contacted and set up for an interview. It was pretty standard procedure, I never saw any other applicants at all. I've applied with the same company again (and am more qualified for the job this time thanks to all the training I put myself through), and when I showed up, it was an open house with three pages of name tags and groups of 10-15 people at a time.
Wow, I read this stuff and it kills me. My heart goes out to you guys, it really does.
spencerhenry
07-22-2010, 09:37
i dont intend to insult anyone who is truly doing everything they can.
but, there are alot of people out there that wont take a job "cause it doesnt pay enough". maybe that is true, but is it better to take a job for $400 per week, or stay on unemployment for $350 per week? i have seen alot of people complaining about having their power shut off, and GM calling to take their car back, but the person i am talking about still has money for cigarettes, marijuana, his wife wont go out and get any kind of job, he still has cable tv. take a look at the things you can LIVE without, TV, internet, cigarettes, beer, unnecessary trips to town, ammo, etc... i have bought beer maybe 3 times since christmas (believe me i like my beer), i have cut down the trips to town to ONLY when necessary. i dont have ANY of my machines insured, if a fire were to go through here i would lose hundreds of thousands of dollars, but i cant afford $4 per day to insure my sawmill, not to mention the skidder, skidsteer, firewood processor, edger, delivery truck and inventory.
we have to make choices, which choices you make says alot about you.
i dont intend to insult anyone who is truly doing everything they can.
but, there are alot of people out there that wont take a job "cause it doesnt pay enough". maybe that is true, but is it better to take a job for $400 per week, or stay on unemployment for $350 per week? i have seen alot of people complaining about having their power shut off, and GM calling to take their car back, but the person i am talking about still has money for cigarettes, marijuana, his wife wont go out and get any kind of job, he still has cable tv. take a look at the things you can LIVE without, TV, internet, cigarettes, beer, unnecessary trips to town, ammo, etc... i have bought beer maybe 3 times since christmas (believe me i like my beer), i have cut down the trips to town to ONLY when necessary. i dont have ANY of my machines insured, if a fire were to go through here i would lose hundreds of thousands of dollars, but i cant afford $4 per day to insure my sawmill, not to mention the skidder, skidsteer, firewood processor, edger, delivery truck and inventory.
we have to make choices, which choices you make says alot about you.
I don't know the situation of the folks posting here but my hope is that they have done those severe cuts. I also know people that are in big trouble but they would rather hold out for their career job than work at the pizza joint. I figure something is better than nothing, but that's me. I've been self employed for a very long time and I remember in the early days when I was down pretty bad and cut everything I could - even power - to stay alive, taking side jobs where possible as long as I was able to keep doing my thing. It worked out very well in the end.
I forgot to mention that there has been no shooting or spending on ammo.
I think it isn't a big deal hold out for a better job at first, but only in say the first six months, and only if you are actively interviewing with someone else.
I forgot to mention that there has been no shooting or spending on ammo.
I think it isn't a big deal hold out for a better job at first, but only in say the first six months, and only if you are actively interviewing with someone else.
I totally agree, you live for as long as possible to hold out, but when TSHTF you have no choice but to stop holding out, it would seem.
StagLefty
07-22-2010, 10:12
I couldn't wait until this year to be eligible for the Aspen Park Pass $30 and go out to Cherry Creek for some extra shooting time. Can't afford either one now.
[BooHoo] I added that before someone else did [ROFL1]
I could live off of $1,600 a month.
I've gone on one shooting trip this whole year and I was pissed that my fuckstick brother shot up all my .22's. I was hoarding those.
cowboykjohnson
07-22-2010, 10:41
I could live off of $1,600 a month.
That's still a 10$ an hour job before taxes so even minimum wage wouldn't come close.
That's what I had to make due with before my current job and it sucked.
I still don't make much but I'm just happy to have a job.
I'm praying for y'all.
Even though I don't work in the feild I am trained for,
Even though I don't make as much as I would like,
Even though I etc, and etc...
I am truly blessed to have a job, period. And a wife that a has a job, even though it's not what she wants to do.
Both of us have jobs and we still have to cut down on eating out, buying stuff we don't need, etc. I do "feel your pain".
For food, check out Angelministries. It's not just a welfare thing but they help the community. $30 gets you a whole month of food. No it's not steak but it does meet your nutritional needs and all.
For any of the guys in the Springs, there are a few jobs (linemen, etc) at the Utility company open. Check the website.
I hope this job that I applied for at the airport comes through. It pays "enough" and I would be glad to take it.
I hope this job that I applied for at the airport comes through. It pays "enough" and I would be glad to take it.
Dave, you are not qualified ethnically to work at the airport......[LOL]
Dave, you are not qualified ethnically to work at the airport......[LOL]
While I don't know about that, I do know that a government official CAN discriminate against you if you are white and that's A-OK (according to recent news of course), and you can sit in a church for years with a preacher who preaches white hate, and THAT is OK - you cannot, however, ever have any history of any kind of racism towards non-whites, EVER, just make sure you're good on that one...
Dave, you are not qualified ethnically to work at the airport......[LOL]
You won't be saying that when I make enough money to come by from your shop again. Its a parking lot job working the night shift and I was told that english is not first laugage for most people working there. But I don't have to talk with anybody.[Pepsi]
airport... Its a parking lot job working the night shift...
Ooohh... you're applying to be one of the car jackers or thiefs? But you can't, you speak English!! lol.
I've parked my car three times there at DIA for long term, about a week each time, and everytime I came back I had either a broken window or my trunk was popped... and if you saw my car you'd think to yourself "Why even bother?" HAHAHA.
I'm not racist unless you consider loving your country and freedom as racist. In which case you need to look up the definition of racist before talking again.
I bang black chicks. My ex was Mexican. I would never sleep with Mrs. Obama though. I'm not racist I'm uglist.
I'm not racist I'm uglist.
That totally needs to be on one of those demotivational posters.
My other favorite: I'm not racist. I hate all of y'all equally!
I've parked my car three times there at DIA for long term, about a week each time, and everytime I came back I had either a broken window or my trunk was popped...
Wow, really? My fiance parks all week every week and has never had a problem, I park for one or two weeks once every month or two and have never had a problem.
I'm not racist. I hate all of y'all equally!
+10!
[Muaha]
That totally needs to be on one of those demotivational posters.
My other favorite: I'm not racist. I hate all of y'all equally!
I had a few more that I erased after looking at them. I don't mean to sound insensitive to other races at times. But I will not feel that my race is a lesser one either. You should be able to be proud of your own skin and not let others call you names to belittle you because of it. I think there is a word for that... cocksucker... yeah your a cocksucker if you try that with me and likely to catch a beat down too.
StagLefty
07-22-2010, 11:36
I know that age discrimination keeps coming up in my job search whether anyone wants to admit it or not. It's an employer's market with all these folks out of work and they're using it.
Don't let your years of experience go to waste because the employer doesn't think they want you. You just have to convince them that you are the man for the job. You are immune from sexual harrasment, you won't show up to work late or still drunk like a kid, you can start earlier than anybody else. Weekends are for family and you have no problem working on them. Just have to word it like a sleezy politician. The free oil in the gulf is a great give to those living on the coast...
I know that age discrimination keeps coming up in my job search whether anyone wants to admit it or not. It's an employer's market with all these folks out of work and they're using it.
That sure is the unfortunate truth, I hear that a lot. You know, if you think that's a roadblock, perhaps you can upsell your age as a benefit, being more experienced and such. Last time I hired someone I had a "wiser" man (like my political correctness there?) interview and I hired him based on the fact that he had three times the experience to do what I needed, even though I'm in a fairly "young" kind of industry. In all fairness, though, I also hired a young gal who was smoking hot and big chested too, my clients LOVE to buy from her!
StagLefty
07-22-2010, 11:51
Gotta mohawk,had my nose and ears pierced,wore my jeans below my ass (oh crap I didn't have underwear on that day and they probably saw my tramp stamp), told them I could get jiggy with the job and they still weren't interested
[ROFL1]
StagLefty
07-22-2010, 11:55
3880
Gotta mohawk,had my nose and ears pierced,wore my jeans below my ass (oh crap I didn't have underwear on that day and they probably saw my tramp stamp), told them I could get jiggy with the job and they still weren't interested
[ROFL1]
Your boobs weren't big enough.
Wow, really? My fiance parks all week every week and has never had a problem, I park for one or two weeks once every month or two and have never had a problem.
Back in the dark ages when I had to travel for work, I often parked at the airport for a couple of weeks at a time (employer paid for it, so why not?). I drove my 1970 Powerwagon out there. The doors don't lock, it has a plywood rear window, and is colored green/white/rust. Most times I left the keys in the ignition. Needless to say, nobody ever bothered it. I kept hoping someone would steal the radio out of it, so I would have an excuse to replace it (they'd have got what they deserved...), but, alas, no such luck. Said truck now serves as interim storage for dead motorcycle tires between pickups by the recyclers. Current record for tires in the back of the truck stands at 192.
Wow, really? My fiance parks all week every week and has never had a problem, I park for one or two weeks once every month or two and have never had a problem.
Yes really, must just be my luck. They supposedly had cameras and everything. Filed all the police reports but nothing ever came to fruiition. No big loss though, my car is a junker.
StagLefty
07-22-2010, 12:44
Your boobs weren't big enough.
I have state paid implants [ROFL1]
I have state paid implants [ROFL1]
Ohh, see, that's the problem, those state paid implants are lumpy - we call em' lumpytits and we never hire lumpytits.
Those are just filled with paper pulp from failed newspapers and the state BOR. Not as much fun to play with as silicone.
StagLefty
07-22-2010, 13:19
Ohh, see, that's the problem, those state paid implants are lumpy - we call em' lumpytits and we never hire lumpytits.
Those are just filled with paper pulp from failed newspapers and the state BOR. Not as much fun to play with as silicone.
Where the hell were you 2 when I needed you ? [Rant2]
cowboykjohnson
07-22-2010, 13:21
I see this thread is headed down hill! [Beer]
StagLefty
07-22-2010, 13:22
Yeah all the deep thoughts have been used up
If my replies stop all of a sudden you can celebrate because my laptop or car or ISP has given out and I can't post anymore.
Tittys.
Where the hell were you 2 when I needed you ? [Rant2]
I didn't notice you until you got them fake nuggs. I want to listen now. Go figure.
i have cut my expenses down to nothing. have those of you here complaining that the available jobs dont "pay enough" done so.
i dont buy beer, i dont go to town unless i have to. i dont eat fast food, i dont go out for dinner, i buy generic everything, i sold my old truck, i have sold several guns, i have sold all the extra brass i can part with, i dig lead out of the range and melt it down to sell, i have sold more stuff on ebay than i can remember.
if you are really broke, just trying to feed your family, do you still shoot? do you still have cable tv, wireless internet, cell phone? people make choices, but have gotten to a point in this country where not only do you need enough money to "feed" your family, but you feel you are entitled to survive AND have tv, cell phone, beer, fast food, hobbies, etc... try eliminating everything that you dont NEED to survive and you will be surprised at how little you really need.
i have no doubt that there are people out there that cant make ends meet, but i think most people are not there yet. with this president and congress you will need to make changes now as it is only going to get worse in the next 6 to 9 months.
preaching to the choir there chief.
our cell was a gift from my dad when our kid was born and the bill gets deducted from his checking account every month, haven't had cable in years, switched to magic jack the week i got laid off, and i have not had the money to pay my net bill for a couple months, it will more than likely die this week. the last time i went shooting was at least 2 years ago, have sold a couple guns to friends to make my last few truck payments. don't have any ammo other than maybe 5 magazines worth of .45 for my bump in the night gun and 3 loaded mags (that i got in a trade here) for my ar.
don't eat fast food, my wife works at kings and we only get store brands/marked down items that she gets a discount on. we have stopped driving my truck all together as it uses too much fuel. i have all but quit drinking beer, working on a case i got for fathers day. have not gone fishing this year since i cant afford the license, other than to visit my mom and look for work, i don't leave the house.
as i mentioned in my first post in this thread, almost all my shit is paid off and the only things i am paying for are truck payment (have 3 left), rent, utilities, and food. there are people just getting by and not everyone is just having fun on someone Else's dime.
Byte Stryke
07-22-2010, 14:12
i am wrong or were you looking for a new scope or something about a month and a half ago?
nope, researching and dreaming.
and at the time I was slotted for a job.
I was denied because Ive spent the last three years in the middle-east.
Oh yeah and /ignored
one last thing, you are sitting there preaching to us about how bad you have it
on the internet.
WTG!
To you guys who've been unemployed for so long, my heart goes out to you. Just barely surviving sucks. I hope all of you land jobs and your situation gets better.
but, there are alot of people out there that wont take a job "cause it doesnt pay enough". maybe that is true, but is it better to take a job for $400 per week, or stay on unemployment for $350 per week?
No one stays on unemployment because it's lucrative. Seriously, if you're faced with taking a job that still won't pay the bills but will tie you up all day (preventing you from searching for better opportunities) or staying on unemployment and dedicated yourself to the search for suitable work, I say stay on unemployment. One can always take the lesser job when the unemployment runs out. And in this economy, there aren't even the lesser jobs out there. Unless you're an illegal willing to work under the table for next to nothing or an executive with an Ivy League education, you're pretty much SOL.
I just got offered some OJT from a friend that installs networks and computers. I don't know if its paid but I'm sure I'll get lunch out of it. :) See haters, I can take jobs that I want to do and save the McJobs for illegals with no idea what a Double Cheeseburger is.
I've been having a similar conversation on another board. There ARE people who lounge around on unemployment. However, if you can afford to lounge around on $300-$400 a week, then you obviously don't have a family, and have so few bills that you hardly even need a job. Personally, I'm glad those people are at home and not potentially standing between me and a job. I'm certainly not very thrilled that they're doing it on government dimes though.
Yeah and they buy 55" TV's and smoke weed and live large on 2/3's of what they made while working.
hurley842002
07-22-2010, 15:36
Yeah and they buy 55" TV's and smoke weed and live large on 2/3's of what they made while working.
And have all the time in the world to enjoy that 55" TV and weed.
Byte Stryke
07-22-2010, 20:39
And have all the time in the world to enjoy that 55" TV and weed.
Hell ya Dawg,
went from working 7x18 hour days a week 52 weeks a year at 28.87/hour plus Combat/Hazardous to watching all of my life savings gone, and living PHAT on $350 a week... I am flat rollin' in dough EVERYDAY.
Man I tell ya, I go get some lunch meat and generic bread to feed my Baby and damn, the rest goes to Ho's and Flatscreen TVs!
Oh, and don't forget about all them Crazy Optics I bought off ya'll ;)
/sarcasm
I am so done with this topic
[Neene2]
spencerhenry
07-23-2010, 06:55
so let me get this straight, you used to work 7 days a week, 18 hrs a day, 52 weeks a year at $28.87 per hour PLUS hazard/ combat pay?
IF that were true, you were making over $500 per day, or over $3600 per week, or $189,000 per year. IF that were true, and you are out of money less than a year later you obviously do not know how to manage your finances. at almost $200k i would think you would have saved at least $20k or more per year, and or paid off you home and car, and any other debts. but you were probably like alot of other people, thinking that it would last forever, and if it didnt that you would rely on the government to take care of you.
i use to make similiar money to that. i paid off my house, my vehicles, bought lots of machinery and tools that still make me money. i also funded my IRA's to the max, and had alot invested in the market. i lost everything in the market in one day, $135k. i could have thrown in the towel and let someone else take care of me, but i didnt. i continued to bust my ass making as much money as i could. these days i am doing anything i can to get back where i was, including working for $12/hr when i can spraying weeds. i hadnt worked for that little since the 80's, but i made a pledge to myself last winter. "dont turn anything down", and i havent, i am not going to pull $100k or anywhere near it, but i taking care of myself. $12/hr is better than nothing, combined with cutting expenses to the bone, i will survive just fine.
StagLefty
07-23-2010, 07:11
^ This is why I sometimes hate the internet "Dr. Phil"
Wow, this thread seems to be getting a bit personal (maybe even ugly). Let me just say this: no matter what you did or didn't do, I really hope all you guys out of work find it soon - whether you are holding out for something right or taking every little job you can find - you are still out of work and I pray you find what you are needing (and/or looking for).
To each their own, it's not mine to judge how you are unemployed, why you are unemployed, judge what kind of work you should be doing, determine which things you should cut out of your life or anything else. I just hope you get a paycheck.
hurley842002
07-23-2010, 08:31
X2 hope you guys are able to get back on your feet. I still stand firm on my opinions, but it's not my place to judge ANYBODY, and like I said I don't know ya'lls situations, and knowing the upstanding group of people on this site, you guys are the few who aren't sitting on your tail leeching off of the Govt.
I wanted to start this thread hoping to get a few emails out to the .gov to bailout the unemployed. It feels like I'm the only one but now I know I'm not alone and in numbers with shared interests we are stronger and able to depend on others to support us when we are ready to call in the towel. Unemployment is a great tool for helping out those that work keep things going until their luck changes. Its not a life long paycheck like welfare and gov assistant seems like at times. Its a short term grant that is awarded to those that proved they can't work and will work again. If we didn't have it we would be a burden to our friends and family that may or maynot be able to help.
While some of you are making your insurance last longer with part time jobs and buying cheaper food like imitation lunch meat. I pondered but DID NOT act on the idea of what if I was starving and needed food? Those geese that shit all over the place at the park by my house look mighty plump. What if poached one? It reminded me of the movie Robin Hood Prince of Thieves when the thug guards were chasing down that boy for killing one of the kings deer. Would the same thing happen to me? Are things that bad? No. But it makes me wonder if it was I don't think I would do it. (and tell you about it)
Well all that nonsense aside if your still reading this I mean... I have to at least try to make things better for myself. My current efforts are not good enough I need to double them. If a kid from Kenya can win the Nobel Prize for doing nothing and become president for saying stupid things that are ment to mean different but important things to different people. Well then "Better Changes" "You can do it its alright and more hope" is going to happen to us all... if I win.
So no more feeling sorry for myself and I not stopping until the casket drops.
Legal Disclaimer: Spelling errors syntax and grammar are going to be present in the preceding rant... I could have proof read it but I didn't. I would also like to apologize for Windows Vista. It wasn't the OS I thought it would be. All characters in my story are fake and are not based on real people. Vague catch phrases are meant to distract you from real issues (like being drugged before a rape~) any success gained by them was accidental and covered under warranty for a full refund. God bless you. Good Luck.
I'm pretty die hard against government handouts, but unemployment benefits would be the exception. Why? Because we pay for that specifically in every check we get, we are stocking up in case we ever get laid off. I'm all for using it. God knows I pay an arm and a leg for unemployment insurance for all of my companies.
Byte Stryke
07-23-2010, 12:26
so let me get this straight, you used to work 7 days a week, 18 hrs a day, 52 weeks a year at $28.87 per hour PLUS hazard/ combat pay?
IF that were true, you were making over $500 per day, or over $3600 per week, or $189,000 per year. IF that were true, and you are out of money less than a year later you obviously do not know how to manage your finances. at almost $200k i would think you would have saved at least $20k or more per year, and or paid off you home and car, and any other debts. but you were probably like alot of other people, thinking that it would last forever, and if it didnt that you would rely on the government to take care of you.
i use to make similiar money to that. i paid off my house, my vehicles, bought lots of machinery and tools that still make me money. i also funded my IRA's to the max, and had alot invested in the market. i lost everything in the market in one day, $135k. i could have thrown in the towel and let someone else take care of me, but i didnt. i continued to bust my ass making as much money as i could. these days i am doing anything i can to get back where i was, including working for $12/hr when i can spraying weeds. i hadnt worked for that little since the 80's, but i made a pledge to myself last winter. "dont turn anything down", and i havent, i am not going to pull $100k or anywhere near it, but i taking care of myself. $12/hr is better than nothing, combined with cutting expenses to the bone, i will survive just fine.
Jesus H Christ man... doesn't that Cross you are packing around ever get heavy?
"Man we are so poor I give handjobs in citypark for a nickle and I'm HAPPY to do it! but I wont use a support mechanism that I paid for."
what I did with my money... as if it is any of your business, was to support my parents, my wife's family, pay off student loans and save my sons life with insurmountable medical expenses. and there is the little issue of a cost of living adjustment and the TAXES I paid.
My Math whiz, how much in taxes did I pay? forgot that part or did it just not support your martyrdom?
and there was that nasty little business with the stock market.
Did I happen to mention that I lived on my savings for a substantial amount of time before applying for unemployment?
No... again because it none of your damned business.
StagLefty
07-23-2010, 15:01
I'm getting out of this but before I do can anybody recommend a bologna cookbook ? I'm running out of recipe ideas [Coffee]
spencerhenry
07-23-2010, 17:03
No... again because it none of your damned business.[/quote]
well, you started this topic asking for people to contact lawmakers to extend your unemployment benefits. the door was opened WIDE for comment.
you seem a little defensive about your situation, did i strike a nerve?
besides, i thought you were done with this thread.
unemployment lasting for almost 2 years is in my opinion counterproductive for everyone, and is tantamount to welfare.
sorry to hear that your life sucks so bad, really, i am sorry. sometimes people just get a raw deal, if thats your situation i apologize.
Byte Stryke
07-23-2010, 17:38
No... again because it none of your damned business.well, you started this topic asking for people to contact lawmakers to extend your unemployment benefits. the door was opened WIDE for comment.
you seem a little defensive about your situation, did i strike a nerve?
besides, i thought you were done with this thread.
unemployment lasting for almost 2 years is in my opinion counterproductive for everyone, and is tantamount to welfare.
sorry to hear that your life sucks so bad, really, i am sorry. sometimes people just get a raw deal, if thats your situation i apologize.
I decided to stay in it after I saw you wouldn't let it go.
I have to say, That is some serious kind of personal "I Art Holier than Thou!" Crusade you seem to be on.
Like a dog with a Garden viper... won't let it go even knowing its going to bite ya.
I didn't start this thread, but I appreciate the thought.
All of the Credit for that goes to Doc, Sorry I Derailed yer thread Doc.
Who else is on unemployment? Anyone else get cut off while no jobs can be found? Do you want to join me in writing letter to our "reps" to get the Unemployment extended?
and you want to know whats REALLY counterproductive:
14% unemployment
Arguing on the internetbut the second one is allot more fun than the first!
[ROFL1][ROFL1][ROFL1][ROFL1]
and know this, when my son comes running up saying "Daddy" and climbs in my Lap... none of this crap matters.
Have a great day and we will see ya at the next one!
StagLefty
07-23-2010, 17:56
sorry to hear that your life sucks so bad, really, i am sorry. sometimes people just get a raw deal, if thats your situation i apologize.
None of our lives suck. Our lives compared to those who wake up in Iraq,Afghanistan,Africa,Haiti etc.are great. We are blessed with family,a roof over our heads,and food on the table. BUT we are victims of recession in our country and for the most part we didn't cause our woes. I don't believe anyone on unemployment on this forum wants to be on it but we need to do what we can to provide for ourselves and our families until we can find work that meets those needs. As I sit here with my son I know I'm blessed ! I'm not as eloquent as most of you on here but that's my thoughts for tonight.
you seem a little defensive about your situation, did i strike a nerve?
-1 for ad hominem attacks.
H.
I don't believe anyone on unemployment on this forum wants to be on it
One thing is for sure, you can't be much of an active shooter living on unemployment.
H.
bobbyfairbanks
07-23-2010, 18:10
If you want government handouts (IE tax dollars) move to a different country. People that are collecting and not producing are on the same level as criminals in my opion. If you really cared you would geta job a Mcdonalds. Swallow your pride. There is always work to find it just might now be what you want. Some of us have several jobs to keep themselves afloat. It is horrible you are asking people to support you in begging like the rest of the democrats. You should move to Cali and befriend Nancy. I am sure she would love to give away more tax payers dollars to people that don't want to work.
I hope you find work and see the error in your ways.
Byte Stryke
07-23-2010, 18:30
None of our lives suck. Our lives compared to those who wake up in Iraq,Afghanistan,Africa,Haiti etc.are great. We are blessed with family,a roof over our heads,and food on the table. BUT we are victims of recession in our country and for the most part we didn't cause our woes. I don't believe anyone on unemployment on this forum wants to be on it but we need to do what we can to provide for ourselves and our families until we can find work that meets those needs. As I sit here with my son I know I'm blessed ! I'm not as eloquent as most of you on here but that's my thoughts for tonight.
You Know, I used to think This Sucked 2006-2009 (Cropped/Edited for Security)
http://bsdgames.com/site/album_pic.php?pic_id=273&user_id=9
http://bsdgames.com/site/album_pic.php?pic_id=274&user_id=9
And then I Was Absolutely sure this was Hell on Earth.
(2008, NICU, London Hospital, Neonatal Septicemia)
http://bsdgames.com/site/album_pic.php?pic_id=275&user_id=9
but you know what, The Leg is healing, My Son is Growing and its all going to be alright.
http://bsdgames.com/site/album_pic.php?pic_id=197&user_id=9
http://bsdgames.com/site/album_pic.php?pic_id=276&user_id=9
All of the arguments about who is better or worse than the other for whatever reason and who is doing what with whom in which orifice are really irrelevant.
I have my Family and we are alive and well.
Think about it.
If you are upright and Breathing, everything else is secondary.
I wish each and everyone one of you Health and Happiness.
Yes, even you SpencerHenry :D
hurley842002
07-23-2010, 18:45
You Know, I used to think This Sucked 2006-2009 (Cropped/Edited for Security)
http://bsdgames.com/site/album_pic.php?pic_id=273&user_id=9
http://bsdgames.com/site/album_pic.php?pic_id=274&user_id=9
And then I Was Absolutely sure this was Hell on Earth.
(2008, NICU, London Hospital, Neonatal Septicemia)
http://bsdgames.com/site/album_pic.php?pic_id=275&user_id=9
but you know what, The Leg is healing, My Son is Growing and its all going to be alright.
http://bsdgames.com/site/album_pic.php?pic_id=197&user_id=9
http://bsdgames.com/site/album_pic.php?pic_id=276&user_id=9
All of the arguments about who is better or worse than the other for whatever reason and who is doing what with whom in which orifice are really irrelevant.
I have my Family and we are alive and well.
Think about it.
If you are upright and Breathing, everything else is secondary.
I wish each and everyone one of you Health and Happiness.
Yes, even you SpencerHenry :D
Wow, that's deep. Thanks for sharing the pics, glad all is ok. Great looking son!
[Beer]
One thing is for sure, you can't be much of an active shooter living on unemployment.
H.
+2,000,000
If you want government handouts (IE tax dollars) move to a different country. People that are collecting and not producing are on the same level as criminals in my opion. If you really cared you would geta job a Mcdonalds. Swallow your pride. There is always work to find it just might now be what you want. Some of us have several jobs to keep themselves afloat. It is horrible you are asking people to support you in begging like the rest of the democrats. You should move to Cali and befriend Nancy. I am sure she would love to give away more tax payers dollars to people that don't want to work.
I hope you find work and see the error in your ways.
Thanks I wasn't worried enough about money. Now I have to worse for taking handouts. Its true to a point but pointing it out is like a kid calling an obese women fat. (or any women will hear you say that no matter what) Its easy to look down your nose and wag your finger at people in shit storms. But its not polite and adding injures to insults is bad carma. You could be in the same situation one day too.
If you want government handouts (IE tax dollars) move to a different country. People that are collecting and not producing are on the same level as criminals in my opion. If you really cared you would geta job a Mcdonalds. Swallow your pride. There is always work to find it just might now be what you want. Some of us have several jobs to keep themselves afloat. It is horrible you are asking people to support you in begging like the rest of the democrats. You should move to Cali and befriend Nancy. I am sure she would love to give away more tax payers dollars to people that don't want to work.
I hope you find work and see the error in your ways.
Wow. Hope you remember your words when it comes time to retire and collect SS. Be sure to turn it down on principle because "people who are collecting and not producing are on the same level as criminals" according to you.
These guys aren't criminals, they're just down on their luck and collecting a benefit they earned throughout their working lives. Guess I'm a one time criminal too since I actually dared to collect unemployment once in my working career. But seeing as I've been working since I've been 16, served my country honorably, and pay way more than my fair share of taxes due to my income level, your opinion of me matters for shit.
You equating these guys to criminals is totally ridiculous. I hope you can see the error of your ways.
Byte Stryke
07-23-2010, 19:56
Wow. Hope you remember your words when it comes time to retire and collect SS. Be sure to turn it down on principle because "people who are collecting and not producing are on the same level as criminals" according to you.
These guys aren't criminals, they're just down on their luck and collecting a benefit they earned throughout their working lives. Guess I'm a one time criminal too since I actually dared to collect unemployment once in my working career. But seeing as I've been working since I've been 16, served my country honorably, and pay way more than my fair share of taxes due to my income level, your opinion of me matters for shit.
You equating these guys to criminals is totally ridiculous. I hope you can see the error of your ways.
Totally agree.
if I knew where you lived I would hop onto the RTD bus that my taxes have been paying for over the last 27 years of my working life. (never been on one though) Ride to your house, Give you a hug and Buy you a cup of coffee with my "illegally gained" "welfare" Dollar.
/Sarcasm
:D
Seriously, Huge +1 though
I really feel sorry for the self-righteous and indignant (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/indignant). They are the ones that hit hardest.
Ask me, I was one.
Totally agree.
if I knew where you lived I would hop onto the RTD bus that my taxes have been paying for over the last 27 years of my working life. (never been on one though) Ride to your house, Give you a hug and Buy you a cup of coffee with my "illegally gained" "welfare" Dollar.
Damn dude, after reading your last post I think I'm the one that owes you a coffee. You're right, nothing matters other than your family. All the rest is just window dressing.
And we all hopefully grow past our own self-righteousness. I took me a while, but I finally learned that the world is never black and white but many confusing shades of gray.
Byte Stryke
07-23-2010, 23:44
It Sort of funny, but I Didn't REALLY wake up until I was 41
I thought I had it all figured out, Got a Medical from the Army, Didn't take VA because I was too proud, didn't take Unemployment for the same reasons. Me Against the world, Someone was getting screwed and I wasn't going to let it be me!
I'M Jetting here, doing this, going to school, doing that, tough Guy making it on my own at all costs.
I graduate from College, get this awesome offer to go overseas again and I am on top of the world. I have this shit all Figured out, or so I thought.
I am Paying my parents bills, my Girlfriend(now wife) Lives with me, we're getting married, I am THE Man.
October 5th 2008 My Wife and I got to her 8 month Checkup.
She is in Labor!
???
October 6, 20 Hours later Alexander is born.
3 Hours after that the realization sets in there is something seriously wrong and Doctors start getting nervous. Alex undergoes more tests than anyone there knows how to give. They are bringing in Specialists from other regional Hospitals
On October 7 2008 I Realized that my priorities were seriously fucking wrong and just how little I knew.
The head of Pediatrics Sits me down and turns my world upside down.
I am in a Country where it is a Law that No one shall be treated in the first hour of a trauma as it may be gods will to take them. Insh'Allah
I am told my Newborn Son has Streptococcal Septicemia and will probably not make it.
I am also told that I Cannot tell my wife as she is still too weak from the labor and it could hurt her.
You quickly lose all of your Indigence and ego when you cry yourself to sleep on the floor of an NICU of a hospital Begging God or Allah, anyone listening to let your son live.
When you watch him go through Transfusion after Transfusion because his blood is wracked with Bacterium and he is wasting away because its killing him from the inside out and there is nothing you can do.
You lose all sense of self-importance and you realize what IS important.
for those not in the know: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001366.htm
Job... Pffft
(big) Money...Pffft
Guns, cars, toys, flat screens, Image, power, whatever...
I will trade everything I own and everything I will ever own to have my son give me a Kiss wrap his little arms around my neck and say "Daddy".
and if you don't know that feeling, I hope someday you will, because there is no better feeling like it in the world. Everyday I get out of Bed and face another day for HIM.
I pray that no parent ever has to deal with the horror I went through. It was a nightmare straight from hell that I couldn't wake from.
I Wish I had something like the Ronald McDonald house, or Family, or ANYTHING to help me out. and I vowed then that I would never take anything for granted again, to include a helping hand.
So for those of you sending me job Leads, I Do appreciate it and I am following up on them.
And for those that are standing up on their soapboxes, I honestly pray you never fall, it really is that much further to the ground.
theGinsue
07-24-2010, 01:30
If you want government handouts (IE tax dollars) move to a different country. People that are collecting and not producing are on the same level as criminals in my opion. If you really cared you would geta job a Mcdonalds. Swallow your pride. There is always work to find it just might now be what you want. Some of us have several jobs to keep themselves afloat. It is horrible you are asking people to support you in begging like the rest of the democrats. You should move to Cali and befriend Nancy. I am sure she would love to give away more tax payers dollars to people that don't want to work.
I hope you find work and see the error in your ways.
I've followed this thread through 6+ pages. What I'm seeing here horrifies me.
I've always been proud of the fact that we, the members of this site, coming from diverse backgrounds and experiences can come together and support one another - simply because we all share a common interest.
Our nation is in a really bad spot right now and some of our members are caught up in the difficulties that come with our nations situation.
We have a government that is more concerned with giving billions of dollars to nations that bear us ill will and handouts to nations which provide no benefit to us at all. Our government has no compassion or interest helping get people back on their feet. The government wants either subjects or workers who will provide them with more money.
Thankfully we have a system in place that will provide temporary assistance to those who need it. This assistance has been paid for by all of us who have ever produced. This isn't a hand-out, this is something we've earned and, in part, paid for it directly ourselves.
A prideful man won't want to accept this help.
A fool won't accept it.
A wise person will accept it.
Only an evil and hateful person would ever kick another human being while they are down or condemn them for accepting the temporary assistance - regardless of your personal opinion of taking this help. You people are far better than this.
Obviously this issue is devisive. We can't always agree but we certainly don't have to turn on each other like rabid dogs either.
I pray that those of you who have never known hard times don't ever have to find out what it's like to wonder how you will feed your child who looks to you to provide for their needs and to fill the emptiness in their belly. Like Byte Stryke, I pray that none of you ever have to experience the horrible hell it is to have a life that you care for in need of emergency medical help where their life hangs by the barest of threads - particularly if the care would be available, if only you could afford it. I pray that you all always have the opportunity to get a dollars worth of value for a dollars worth of effort.
Mrs. Rabbit: What did your father tell you this morning?
Thumper: [clears throat] If you can't say something nice... don't say nothing at all. ...
Let's remember to treat each other with respect; shall we?!
I hope this thread ends with "The recession is over after Obama quit Biden and Polosi acted on a murder suicide pact. The economy seemed to perk up and we can all go back to work." And not with a lock like most thread that I start. We are all lucky men and women for enjoying our guns even though they are trivial now they may mean the difference between life and death before this headache is over. Its funny how we seem to be alright as long as we aren't hungry. The big picture here is taking the country back the immediate goal is survival and after that to gain enough people that have had enough bullying to say something back. Those that have spoken up already have done alot we need to match their efforts. I have been over fed and under read for too long. That is my opinion and its free and god help us all if I am wrong.
I'm pretty die hard against government handouts, but unemployment benefits would be the exception. Why? Because we pay for that specifically in every check we get, we are stocking up in case we ever get laid off. I'm all for using it. God knows I pay an arm and a leg for unemployment insurance for all of my companies.
+1
I agree with Ranger's comment. Employers do pay FUTA 590.
Part of employment. If someone doesn't like it, go open up corporation at a location where there is no unemployment benefits.
This is for anti-unemployment insurance.
If you don't like unemployment or even benefit, stop hiring more than what you need. Play conservative. You lay off people, you created unemployment. If you need to hire someone temporary bases, goto temp agency.
If you think extending unemployment benefit is bad, show us! I am tired of people who read commentaries on newspaper, wall st journals + watch CNBC and believe whatever. That is same/similar thing as liberals believe stuff straight out of TV or media.
You think you are economist by talking about unemployment insurance is bad? Stop reading commentaries and go apply 10 macroeconomic theories after running regression and apply econometrics to back up your statement.
It adds quite a bit of overhead and each time someone makes a claim the premiums go up, but it's really a small price to pay and it's not government funded - that is much more reasonable than an able bodied person going on welfare IMHO.
No one stays on unemployment because it's lucrative. Seriously, if you're faced with taking a job that still won't pay the bills but will tie you up all day (preventing you from searching for better opportunities) or staying on unemployment and dedicated yourself to the search for suitable work, I say stay on unemployment. One can always take the lesser job when the unemployment runs out. And in this economy, there aren't even the lesser jobs out there. Unless you're an illegal willing to work under the table for next to nothing or an executive with an Ivy League education, you're pretty much SOL.[/quote]
A friend who owns a business just hired a couple employees, had tons of applications. The two qualified people he hired where working at a "lesser jobs" and not collecting unemployment. He told me other applicants had more experience, but he choose the two who willing to do whatever it takes to keep working.
No doubt we are in tough times. The fact the extension was passed to me is a clear indication Washington believes the unemployment condition is not changing any time soon.
I'm employed, not sure what I would do if I lost my job.
From another site, not sure how true it is, but I think this is correct.
I'm not sure if you all understand what this extension is... It's an extension on the time frame that your eligible for 99 weeks of Unemployment. The extension up to 99 weeks was voted on last November(2009).
Those benefits would have elapsed for people who recently became unemployed. So lets say you got laid off in Feb of 09...you would be able to get 99 weeks no problem, now if you were laid off in December of 2009, if this recent bill did not pass you would lose your UI benefits after what ever the standard time frame was...I think ~60 weeks.
So what this current bill was is, if your ~60 weeks was up after i think June 1st you would not be able to get 99 weeks. If you ran out of your ~60 weeks before June 1st your good to go for 99 weeks. The bill is making it so people who run out of their ~60 weeks NOW can apply to get 99 weeks.
Also the time frame is based on your states unemployment rate. If your state has a Unemployment rate of over 8.5% you are able to get the full 99 weeks. 20 of those weeks are based on your states unemployment rate.
so your 3-4-10-11 year statement as far as THIS bill goes is ungrounded.
99 weeks sure seems like a long time though.
Not when your behind and the only work you get is not working out. But an extension might be just what people need to get off their ass's. I don't think there is going to be anymore help coming once the GOP takes over in Nov.
This past month, Senate Republicans filibustered against a bill to extend jobless benefits to over 2 million unemployed Americans, saying they were fiscally unwise and irresponsible given the current national deficit. All of these Republicans voted for Bush’s tax cuts.
Cost of Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthy for fiscal year 2010: $200 billion (Note: This only covers one year of the cost of Bush’s tax cuts)
Cost of extending jobless benefits: $34 Billion
http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/04/pf/taxes/bush_obama_tax_cuts/index.htm
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jun/24/paul-krugman/bush-tax-cuts-health-care-probably/
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20011420-503544.html
H.
I'm kinda stumped here. I checked my account at the department of labor and it still says my benefits are exhausted. Doesn't anyone know how this works and when the extension is going to kick in?
Byte Stryke
07-26-2010, 14:20
I'm kinda stumped here. I checked my account at the department of labor and it still says my benefits are exhausted. Doesn't anyone know how this works and when the extension is going to kick in?
I believe you have to re-apply.
Please do NOT quote me on that.
call the CDLE for more info
call the CDLE for more info
Good luck with that. I've NEVER gotten a hold of them.
StagLefty
07-26-2010, 17:19
Good luck with that. I've NEVER gotten a hold of them.
Second that-all contact has been on the internet-I haven't talked to a real person in all 4 months.
Second that-all contact has been on the internet-I haven't talked to a real person in all 4 months.
best way to get a hold of them is to go to the office downtown, you cant talk to anyone there but you can leave your name and number and they generally call back within a couple days. it's a serious PITA but getting them on the phone any other way is impossible.
ChunkyMonkey
07-26-2010, 23:50
I wonder how it'd be when we are all under govt run health care. Lil error will take weeks to fix.
I wonder how it'd be when we are all under govt run health care. Lil error will take weeks to fix.
Lil error. What if you end up on the death panel list and a bureaucrat that doesn't want to double check the list for a mistake. That is going to be a isolated incident that happens all the time.
Nothing. They didn't pay out any benefits after they supposedly passed the extension. Anyone have idea why this happened?
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