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Roger
08-27-2010, 06:26
The Challenger flag is an American flag (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States) that was in the flight kit of the final, disastrous Challenger mission (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster). It was sponsored by Boy Scout Troop 514 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_Scouts_of_America) of Monument (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument,_Colorado), Colorado (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_flag

Tomorrow my son will have his Boy Scout Eagle Court of Honor. The Challenger Flag will be there. As part of his COH he'll get to carry the flag and have his picture taken with it.

He also got to raise the flag over Mount Rushmore.

Scouting is great.

(Shameless proud father thread.)



The Challenger flag is an American flag (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States) that was in the flight kit of the final, disastrous Challenger mission (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster). It was sponsored by Boy Scout Troop 514 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_Scouts_of_America) of Monument (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument,_Colorado), Colorado (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado). Their Scoutmaster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoutmaster) was William Tolbert, a major in the United States Air Force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force) assigned to the Space Command (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_Space_Command).
William Tolbert had ordered the flag from the Valley Forge Flag Company and had arranged for the flag to be flown briefly over the United States Capitol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Capitol) building in Washington, D.C. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington,_D.C.) on January 25, 1985. It was submitted to the NASA Johnson Space Center (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_B._Johnson_Space_Center) by the Second Space Wing, for flight on a space shuttle. On January 28, 1986, it was carried in the "official flight kit" of the Challenger space shuttle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger) on its last flight. It was sealed in plastic and was next to some souvenir medallions being flown by one of the Astronauts. As the Challenger wreckage was brought up from the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Ocean), rescuers found this flag, still in its sealed plastic bag, intact and completely unscathed. The souvenir medallions had melted into a single lump.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_flag#cite_note-0)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_flag#cite_note-book-1)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Challenger_Flag.jpg/250px-Challenger_Flag.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Challenger_Flag.jpg) http://bits.wikimedia.org/skins-1.5/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Challenger_Flag.jpg)
December 18, 1986, the Challenger flag is returned to Troop 514 by astronaut Guy Bluford (second from right) in a formal ceremony at Falcon Air Force Base, Colorado.


On December 18, 1986, the Challenger flag was returned to Boy Scout Troop 514 in a special ceremony attended by 100 dignitaries, guests, and members of the media, at the Consolidated Space Operations Center, Falcon Air Force Station, Colorado (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado). Astronaut Guy Bluford (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Bluford), who had flown on board the Challenger on two previous missions, and who is also an Eagle Scout (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Scout_rank_%28Boy_Scouts_of_America%29), returned the flag to the troop.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_flag#cite_note-LDS-2)
Early in 1987, Chief Justice Warren E. Burger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_E._Burger) designated the Challenger flag as the official flag of the ceremonies commemorating the United States Constitution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution) bicentennial and he invited the troop to participate in the bicentennial gala in Philadelphia. On September 17, 1987, the flag was part of a parade through the streets of Philadelphia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia,_Pennsylvania), and that evening it was presented on the stage of the Philadelphia Civic Center Hall as part of the opening ceremonies. The celebration was attended by an audience of 13,000 people.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_flag#cite_note-LDS-2)
On September 18, 1987, Boy Scout Troop 514 went to Washington, D.C. where the Challenger flag was flown once again over the United States Capitol—the first flag to have ever been returned to be reflown.[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]
In 2002 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002), the Challenger flag was loaned to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints) to be displayed in Salt Lake City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Lake_City) during the 2002 Winter Olympic games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Winter_Olympics).[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_flag#cite_note-3)
Troop 514 is still in possession of the Challenger flag. They continue to display it for certain special public events and Eagle Courts of Honor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Scout_%28Boy_Scouts_of_America%29).

Beprepared
08-27-2010, 06:43
Thats awesome! It sounds like your family has some memorable moments with scouting. All in Boy Scouts 100th anniversary. Continue being proud, you just raised a boy with character and integrity.

rockhound
08-27-2010, 07:02
very nice, did you get photos that you can share?

StagLefty
08-27-2010, 07:11
Congrats to you both of you-Scouts is still a program close to my heart. My son spent 10 yrs. in the program-didn't get his Eagle but a lifetime of memories and good groundwork for life. [Beer]

Bailey Guns
08-27-2010, 07:18
That is fantastic! You must be very proud of your son. He should be proud of his parents for instilling the kind of value system and discipline it takes to accomplish such a great thing in such a short time.

Elhuero
08-27-2010, 07:35
very cool.

post pics!

from wiki:

It was sealed in plastic and was next to some souvenir medallions being flown by one of the Astronauts. As the Challenger wreckage was brought up from the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Ocean), rescuers found this flag, still in its sealed plastic bag, intact and completely unscathed. The souvenir medallions had melted into a single lump.

theGinsue
08-27-2010, 22:23
Amazing and very cool Roger. I'm proud for both you and your son.

The efforts and experiences he's picked up on this journey will be with him for the rest of his life. It's a given that he's learned something about personal responsibility and the value of hard work that most of our world has forgotten. These values will/have set the foundation of the type of character he will have as a man.

Be sure to celebrate this event and share with him just how proud you are!

clublights
08-28-2010, 01:08
Congrats to him Eagle to Eagle!

spleify
08-29-2010, 07:57
Very cool! That has to be a very proud moment

Roger
08-30-2010, 18:38
Uploading pictures now. Stand by for Glory!

theGinsue
08-30-2010, 18:46
Pardon me for my baited breath! (That means I'm waiting anxiously.)

Roger
08-30-2010, 18:50
The Flag arrives.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4139/4943719646_6715cb6d6b.jpg

Unpacking the flag.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4120/4943136467_9eb7b4ed3b.jpg

Mounting the flag to its pole.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4117/4943114945_e3047fc331.jpg

Roger
08-30-2010, 18:53
Flying the colors.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4093/4943141049_3bd2eaba00.jpg

Presenting the colors.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4118/4943143809_fe0360baa9.jpg

Posting the colors.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4115/4943731478_3418e10a98.jpg

Roger
08-30-2010, 18:56
Taking the oath. My son's on the right.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4943732940_ccb8fee77d.jpg

Eagle Scout neckerchief presentation, by Mom. I'm in the back there.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4097/4943148085_8972eff0d2.jpg

Retiring the colors.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4096/4943150571_6b8b6df2b5.jpg

Roger
08-30-2010, 18:59
My son on the right and his friend on the left. The two new Eagles. His friend has joined the Marines and ships out very soon for basic training.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4093/4943151393_b3e8d02922.jpg

Our five newest Eagles. Three of them have yet to hold their Court of Honor.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4117/4943738240_df91d4d856.jpg

Roger
08-30-2010, 19:03
The presence of the Challenger Flag drew cheers and tears. When people learned the story they were truly touched.

This is a National Treasure.



Eagles all. The adults had to get in on it.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4122/4943709378_fd450b900e.jpg

theGinsue
08-30-2010, 19:03
Very nice (and man is your son tall). I think it's especially nice that mom got to present/place the neckerchief; that brought her into the experience and will ensure your son remembers her as a part of the ceremony for the rest of his life.

What, no tears from Dad? I'm calling a foul on that one!

Marlin
08-30-2010, 19:05
Just for the record; I am not that tall. [Neene1]

theGinsue
08-30-2010, 19:07
The presence of the Challenger Flag drew cheers and tears. When people learned the story they were truly touched.

This is a National Treasure.

That is an understatement. The flag, THAT FLAG, must always be treated with extra special reverence.


Eagles all. The adults had to get in on it.

Deservedly so! (I noticed that you are staying towards the back - by your sons side!)

Roger
08-30-2010, 19:08
My son is almost 19. He is 6' 2" or 6" 3" were not sure which. I still have a little on him.

He graduated from high school in May of this year with the equivalent of two years of college. He is now in college. They liked his 3.85 GPA. He only has two years or less to a BA.

Because he's an Eagle Scout, his friend will put on two stripes on graduation from boot camp.

Roger
08-30-2010, 19:09
Just for the record; I am not that tall. [Neene1]


But you're much better looking.

Marlin
08-30-2010, 19:11
But you're much better looking.


I'm sure there will be much debate about that one.

theGinsue
08-30-2010, 19:13
But you're much better looking.


You two want a room?


(yeah Ginsue, let's piss off two very powerful site Mods - including the site owner. Dumb, dummb, dumb! I'll never get to be a mod that way!)

Roger
08-30-2010, 19:16
A troop tradition. When a young man makes Eagle Scout the troop buys him a Buck knife. On one side is engraved "Once an Eagle always an Eagle" on the other side is his name and the date he officially became an Eagle.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4093/4943813690_9ab4bde3e2.jpg


Clowning around a little. Make no mistake. That knife means a great deal to both of them. What you can't see is, my son has his strapped on already. Its under his right arm.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4140/4943222633_e09123d287.jpg

Roger
08-30-2010, 19:27
For you Boy Scouts or Scout Leaders out there. The Flag is once again safe in its secret storage location. It is available for use in Boy Scout Ceremonies and Eagle Court of Honor ceremonies. You must reserve it in advance. The flag must be protected at all times, and can only be escorted and handled by an Eagle Scout.

If you are interested in using the flag, I have the contact information.

And for those that are interested, there is a book! It is titled "Threads of Honor" and it is available at Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Threads-Honor-Gordon-Ryan/dp/0972807101

I found an autographed copy for my son. He now has it with his Eagle stuff.

http://www.mapletreepublishing.com/images/ISBN/097280710/175.jpg



… I felt the cartilage in my back stretching and it struck me that I had never stood so tall.that after twenty years in a military uniform, the proudest moment of my life had come while wearing a scoutmaster's uniform, standing beside that flag.
Major William Tolbert


(I have to agree with this. It was amazing.)


This is an inspiring story that makes me proud to have been an astronaut, proud to be an American, and proud to be an Eagle Scout.
Guy Bluford, Shuttle Astronaut

Marlin
08-30-2010, 19:28
You two want a room?


(yeah Ginsue, let's piss off two very powerful site Mods - including the site owner. Dumb, dummb, dumb! I'll never get to be a mod that way!)



Hee,,hee,,hee,hee...

Marlin
08-30-2010, 19:30
You wouldn't give up your Zombie Slayer status anyway..

Roger
08-30-2010, 19:34
When he wakes up with his intestines tied in a square knot, he'll know the power of the Eagle Scout.

theGinsue
08-30-2010, 19:45
You wouldn't give up your Zombie Slayer status anyway..

You'd be surprised how easily I could be persuaded!


When he wakes up with his intestines tied in a square knot, he'll know the power of the Eagle Scout.

Knots are one of the things I excelled at the best in Scouting and am still well above average in. Now, it might take me just a wee bit longer to get a square knot out of my intestines (soft flesh is always more difficult).

Marlin
08-30-2010, 19:51
You'd be surprised how easily I could be persuaded!



I'll give it some thought. Maybe after you get the flesh knots undone.

Roger
08-30-2010, 20:00
I'll give it some thought. Maybe after you get the flesh knots undone.


I'll leave his new name to you. [Coffee]

Marlin
08-30-2010, 20:13
I'll leave his new name to you. [Coffee]


Okay...

Irving
08-30-2010, 22:57
I'm liking flesh knot.