Can Anyone Run Serial Numbers

[Skywalker]

I have a friend that is looking to buy three firearms or trade for them actually and want to make sure they are clean. Can anyone run the serial numbers to make sure they are good to go. He is out of state if that mattrs? Please let me know if you can and i'll provide the serial numbers. Skywalker

[ShooterChick]

I don't know if you can. You can call the local police departments and see but its hard because if the gun comes back stolen they have to take it and if they dont have it... dont quote me on this but i think they can get in trouble.... not totally sure though...

[Skywalker]

My buddy is out of state and does not have the guns and that is why is wants to check them out. So, if they was to be dirty and I don't really think so but if they are... the PO PO is going to be up somones arse! He called the PO PO in his state and they wanted to come out and and told them he does not have them but was interested in them and needed to know ahead of time or spending any money or trading for them. I think he is going to have to have the run like it or not! [Beer]



I don't know if you can. You can call the local police departments and see but its hard because if the gun comes back stolen they have to take it and if they dont have it... dont quote me on this but i think they can get in trouble.... not totally sure though...

[ShooterChick]

Couldn't he just buy the gun and not register it? As long as he has a bill of sale he should be ok unless for some weird reason the serial numbers get ran... Dont know

[Krasni]

That's typically not something police will run for you. I'm a dealer and have a good buddy in the local PD and he told me it's just not something they will do. Kinda dumb imo. I figured I'd at least have access to run numbers but I guess it's simply Thunderdome when you make a trade.

[Irving]

Show me the GUNFAX. Duh.

[Seamonkey]

Show me the GUNFAX. Duh.
Nice!

[CareyH]

the problem is for a police officer to run it they have to use there ID# and if it comes back stolen and they dont bring it in they can get in trouble.

[The Extractor]

I waltzed into the local sheriffs and told them a a shady dude wanted to sell me a gun and I wanted the # checked. Got a call a few hours later it was clean. It shouldnt be a big deal.

[68Charger]

I waltzed into the local sheriffs and told them a a shady dude wanted to sell me a gun and I wanted the # checked. Got a call a few hours later it was clean. It shouldnt be a big deal.

This could very well be the difference between a police dept, and Sheriff's dept... I'd say contact your sheriff dept-

of course, where I live, there is no police dept [Coffee]

[OneGuy67]

This could very well be the difference between a police dept, and Sheriff's dept... I'd say contact your sheriff dept-

of course, where I live, there is no police dept [Coffee]

No difference between the two. The deputy who ran the number for you is putting his job on the line to do so as he accessed CCIC/NCIC for a non-law enforcement related matter. It would be the same as you asking him to check and see if the ex-wife had a warrant or a valid driver's license. Both are violations of the CCIC/NCIC agreements that his agency signed and he agreed to when provided access and are chargeable under 2nd degree official misconduct.

[buffalobo]

Here is a link to a website that has some sort of database of stolen guns.

Have never used it, don't know anything about it, saw it on another forum in a similar type thread.

http://www.hotgunz.com/

[Great-Kazoo]

Couldn't he just buy the gun and not register it? As long as he has a bill of sale he should be ok unless for some weird reason the serial numbers get ran... Dont know

depending on where he lives there is or isn't A "gun registration" outside of CA, Mass, NY, NJ to name a few the "gun registration" is a myth. Now the accepting FFL can run the numbers. Besides if they are hot the shipper/seller has a real big problem in the future

[Krasni]

I don't know about the restrictive states (CA, Mass, Ill, NY etc) but in the regular states FFL's can't run serial numbers.

[68Charger]

No difference between the two. The deputy who ran the number for you is putting his job on the line to do so as he accessed CCIC/NCIC for a non-law enforcement related matter. It would be the same as you asking him to check and see if the ex-wife had a warrant or a valid driver's license. Both are violations of the CCIC/NCIC agreements that his agency signed and he agreed to when provided access and are chargeable under 2nd degree official misconduct.

That's not what I meant- but good information nonetheless...

Hard to put into words exactly. In my admittedly limited experience, police Dept's are more rigid, losing their sense of humor quickly, where the sheriff's deputies tend to be more laid back & easier to talk to... probably just my bias due to being a "country boy"

one appears more professional to some, but they're just different approaches.
I realize this would be completely dependent on the dept, management, individuals, etc...

[Byte Stryke]

No difference between the two. The deputy who ran the number for you is putting his job on the line to do so as he accessed CCIC/NCIC for a non-law enforcement related matter. It would be the same as you asking him to check and see if the ex-wife had a warrant or a valid driver's license. Both are violations of the CCIC/NCIC agreements that his agency signed and he agreed to when provided access and are chargeable under 2nd degree official misconduct.

wouldn't this actually become a law enforcement matter if it came up stolen or used in a crime/whatever?

Say it came back as a "wanted gun" Officer asks the guy to arrange a meeting for the sale of the weapon and a detective goes instead. they recover the firearm, arrest the guy for possession or whatever and everyone is happy!?

Or do I just watch too much CSI?
:D

[OneGuy67]

wouldn't this actually become a law enforcement matter if it came up stolen or used in a crime/whatever?

Say it came back as a "wanted gun" Officer asks the guy to arrange a meeting for the sale of the weapon and a detective goes instead. they recover the firearm, arrest the guy for possession or whatever and everyone is happy!?

Or do I just watch too much CSI?
:D

C'mon Byte! Cops can't access the CCIC/NCIC database except for official business and running a firearm through that database or the ATF eTrace for a buddy isn't official business, it is doing a favor for someone.

Using your analogy, how about running the ex-wife, ex-girlfriend, new boyfriend of said ex, daughter's boyfriend, son's boyfriend, etc. and they have a warrant, so you go arrest them. Still a violation. The end doesn't justify the means.

Frankly, as I've heard here from you and others on this forum, that gun registration is bad (got to say it in the voice of the South Park character). But now, you want someone to access said registration database for your benefit.

Now, if someone was to come to me and tell me they knew someone was selling stolen guns, then I would be more than happy to do the "CSI thing" and go bust them! Anyone...anyone....?

[Byte Stryke]

C'mon Byte! Cops can't access the CCIC/NCIC database except for official business and running a firearm through that database or the ATF eTrace for a buddy isn't official business, it is doing a favor for someone.

Using your analogy, how about running the ex-wife, ex-girlfriend, new boyfriend of said ex, daughter's boyfriend, son's boyfriend, etc. and they have a warrant, so you go arrest them. Still a violation. The end doesn't justify the means.

Frankly, as I've heard here from you and others on this forum, that gun registration is bad (got to say it in the voice of the South Park character). But now, you want someone to access said registration database for your benefit.

Now, if someone was to come to me and tell me they knew someone was selling stolen guns, then I would be more than happy to do the "CSI thing" and go bust them! Anyone...anyone....?


none here
Gun Registration is bad, but that doesn't mean that a stolen guns numbers cant be turned in.
everytime I hear the words "Gun Registration" I remember the scene from red Dawn with the Soviet commander ordering all sales logs from gun shops be turned over to him.

and as far as the GF/ex-wife comparison that kinda doesnt fit for me and here's why.
you cannot really invade the privacy of a gun, well... I guess you can, in a rather perverse and disturbing manner.

But anyway, Checking up on Something, and checking up on SOMEONE, two entirely different things, BATFE rules aside.

and the Character you are referring to is Eric Cartman
your new Avatar, sir.
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/estaab/Eric_Cartman_Chickenlover.jpeg

[Byte Stryke]

resized for avatar
:D

[68Charger]

Actually, it was Mr. Mackey (school counselor)- the actual line was "Drugs are bad, mmmmkay?"

Cartman was know for "I AM A COP, you WILL respect my Authoritay" (Among MANY other things)

[The Extractor]

It wasnt even a deputy that ran it for me I am pretty sure it was one of the counter gals.
I dont think they can do anything if they are stolen(if you havent bought them yet).
If they do try just be honest and tell them who does have the stolen items.
They are there to SERVE you.

[Byte Stryke]

Actually, it was Mr. Mackey (school counselor)- the actual line was "Drugs are bad, mmmmkay?"

Cartman was know for "I AM A COP, you WILL respect my Authoritay" (Among MANY other things)


you are correct.

thats what I get for not watching my daily dose of Southpark