View Full Version : Environmentalists REALLY want you dead...
Zundfolge
10-01-2010, 11:29
...if you don't blindly follow them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr74mitB_nk
ronaldrwl
10-01-2010, 12:51
Liberal wet-dream
Zundfolge
10-01-2010, 13:44
Oh, its all ok now ... they apologized for running the video (and inadvertently showing you their souls...or lack thereof).
http://www.1010global.org/uk/2010/10/sorry
Didn't really see the humor... seemed more like a threat....
Good lord thats scary. I always new the econuts where, well nuts but after seeing that I think I'll boost my carbon emissions by ordering another few cases of ammo from AIM surplus
SA Friday
10-01-2010, 13:58
Uh... WTF. That was a waste of a perfectly good hot chic at the end.
Wait, I get it now... This had something to do with enviornmentalists, didn't it. Sorry. I missed that part. I just tune them out anymore.
Further solidifies my belief that people who call themselves "environmentalists" only do so to avoid having to defend their hatred of the human race. Sure they care about the environment, but not nearly as much as they care about hurting those who they believe are inferior to themselves; which is absolutely everyone.
I want one of those buttons!! [Eek2]:D
I thought that video was just a bunch of sick right wing radical propaganda to me.
Even though at the range some people jokingly threaten to call the EPA on me, because I make to much blackpowder smoke from my Hawken 50 and my 2 Ruger Single Action Army's, which I do; that sometimes I feel like a hypocrite.
jerrymrc
10-01-2010, 18:19
I thought that video was just a bunch of sick right wing radical propaganda to me.
I think you meant your other right. ;)
It was a little over the top me thinks.
theGinsue
10-01-2010, 18:47
Didn't really see the humor... seemed more like a threat....
^^^ This!
Troublco
10-01-2010, 18:51
Goes right along with the rest of the population control they like to talk about, nothing new there. Maybe the manner of control....
If I had the resources I'd produce a shot for shot remake where they blow up liberals
ChunkyMonkey
10-02-2010, 15:04
If I had the resources I'd produce a shot for shot remake where they blow up liberals
I would pitch in! :D
? Right wing propaganda? Video is by liberals. Hot chick at the end is Gillian Anderson- a hard core lefty.
Well sometimes a person who is so far left that when the clock turns around 12 to 24 hours, comes out that he is so far right.
Further solidifies my belief that people who call themselves "environmentalists" only do so to avoid having to defend their hatred of the human race. Sure they care about the environment, but not nearly as much as they care about hurting those who they believe are inferior to themselves; which is absolutely everyone.
HOOIE
Negative, do not agree. You cannot be so far left that you magically come out on the right side when the moon changes phases or whatever.
There are certain ideals that the left and right arrange their platforms on and the video was universally left slanted. There is not room for arguement there.
Zundfolge
10-04-2010, 10:15
Negative, do not agree. You cannot be so far left that you magically come out on the right side when the moon changes phases or whatever.
There are certain ideals that the left and right arrange their platforms on and the video was universally left slanted. There is not room for arguement there.
I would argue that the entire "left vs right" paradigm is flawed (and on purpose too).
You can't tell me that the entire spectrum of political ideologies lies between Communism on the left and Fascism on the right ... that would be the equivalent of saying that the entire spectrum of musical styles lies between West Coast Hip Hop on one end and East Coast Hip Hop on the other.
Left is right. Period.
Communism and Fascism are the same thing only with different uniforms and slightly different rhetoric (the only real difference is that Communists are globalists while Fascists are Nationalists).
The reality is that the whole "Left vs Right" thing is a spectrum of acceptable political systems (acceptable to progressives/collectivists that is).
There is no room for Libertarianism, Free Market Capitalism, Constitutionally limited Republics or anything good for that matter.
"The Left" has altered the language so that they can always win the argument. If you're not as Communist as they are than you're obviously an evil Fascist baby killer.
Negative Zund... I think that's getting way too in depth. What I was trying to say is that there is a certain mindset of right and left.
I agree with your arguements but there is no way to construe that the commercial/ad/whatever it was was "right wing"... unless it was intended as a spoof maybe?
Negative, do not agree. You cannot be so far left that you magically come out on the right side when the moon changes phases or whatever.
There are certain ideals that the left and right arrange their platforms on and the video was universally left slanted. There is not room for arguement there.
A more fundamentally interesting discussion would be why the majority of people who think climate change is a scam would place themselves right of center, and whether their conclusion followed the evidence, or whether they sought out the evidence to support the conclusion.
I consider myself a lefty, but not a Communist. Just say, I'm a Capitalist with some Socialist leanings.
I only saw the video once, and I seriously thought it was right wing bashing of enviromentalists.
If I am wrong, I apologize.
A more fundamentally interesting discussion would be why the majority of people who think climate change is a scam would place themselves right of center, and whether their conclusion followed the evidence, or whether they sought out the evidence to support the conclusion.
Yes Sir, that would be.
I consider myself a lefty, but not a Communist. Just say I'm a Capitalist with some Socialist leanings. I only saw the video once, and I seriously thought it was right wing bashing of enviromentalists. I apologize, If I am wrong.
I thought it was just a poor taste lefty... until I started to think of "spoofs"... if it is a spoof, I could see it being a right wing propaganda thing as you said... But I just don't know enough about the ad/commercail/etc.
I thought it was just a poor taste lefty... until I started to think of "spoofs"... if it is a spoof, I could see it being a right wing propaganda thing as you said... But I just don't know enough about the ad/commercail/etc.
It was made by Richard Curtis of Four Weddings/Love Actually fame in support of the 10:10 project in the UK. He and about 40 members of his crew and actors donated their time and efforts for free. It was made 'on spec' somewhat, which means the 10:10 project didn't say "can you show teachers blowing up kids" or anything like that. He presented the film to them, they posted it on their website and almost immediately realised it wasn't in very good taste so they pulled it.
As far as films go, it was very Richard Curtis. All mawkish and middle class. Nice to see Trevor Lock at the end though, I like him.
OgenRwot
10-07-2010, 11:51
I'm a Capitalist with some Socialist leanings
That doesn't even make sense. Get your brain checked.
StagLefty
10-07-2010, 14:32
This video has been part of a Glenn Beck topic the last few days.
Not to mention the fact that a "carbon tax" is basically an "existence tax."
http://www.inameri.ca/erm/25ad8-slow_clap.gif
" Conservatives who dismiss climate change as a hoax are making a spectacle of their ignorance."
"Conservatives who treat Global Warming as just another scare story are almost certainly mistaken."
"But will any of the deniers say "OK, I guess I was wrong " and support climate action? No. And the planet will continue to cook"
"First of all, we didn't fail to act because of legitimate doubts about the science. Every piece of valid evidence-long term temperature averages that smooth out year-to-year fluctuations, Artic sea ice volume, melting of glaciers, the ratio of record highs to record lows-points to a continuing, and quite possibly accelerating, rise in global temperatures."
" Nor is this evidence tainted by scientific misbehavior. You've probably heard about the accustions leveled against climate researchers -allegations of fabricated data, the supposedly damming e-mail of "Climategate," and so on. What you may not have heard, because it has recieved much less publicity, is that every one of those supposed scandals was eventually unmasked as a fraud concocted by opponents of climate action, then brought into by many in the news media. You don't believe such things can happen? Think Shirley Sherrod."
" All serious estimates suggest that we could phase in limits on greenhouse gas emissions with at most a small impact on the economy's growth rate."
So it wasn't the science the scientists, or the economics that killed action on climate change. What was it?
The answer, is the usual suspects: greed and cowardice.
If you want to understand opposition to climate action, follow the money. The economy as a whole wouldn't be be significantly hurt if we would put a price on carbon, the coal and oil industries-would. And those industries have mounted a huge disinforamation campaign to protect their bottom lines.
Look at the scientists who question the consensus on climate change; look at the organizations pushing fake scandals; look at the think tanks claiming that any effort to limit emissions would cripple the economy. Again and again, you'll find that they're on the receiving end of a pipeline of funding that starts with big energy companies, like Exxon Mobil, which has spent tens of millions of dollars promoting climate-change denial, or Koch Industries, which has been sponsoring anti-enviromental organizations for decades."
Or look at the politicans who have been most vociferously opposed to climate action. Where do they get much of their campaign money? You already know the answer."
When I was a kid scientists said that we were heading into another ice age.
Then they said acid rain was going to wipe out marine life and make drinkable water scarce.
In gradeschool I remember reading a book about a future when the air was almost unbreathable.
These inoculations of propaganda over the years have rendered me immune to the bullshit.
I don't deny that the climate may be changing. I do deny that it's man made and more taxes and government is the solution.
I also deny that it's all the fault of the "largest polluter", the United States. Did we kill any whales, build the plant outside Pripyat or cause a toxic river of sludge to pour into the Danube?
It's all politics, and it's all about control.
If you want to understand climate change, follow the money. The amount a single corporation can make is a pittance compared to what those in power will have if they can take control and tell everyone what to do and how to do it "for the good of the planet"
The climate change argument is another float in a long parade of liberal hypocrisy. They claim we evolved from primates, and that survival of the fittest is the law of nature.
Yet instead of supporting this ideal by being proponents of adaptation to the changing planet, they demand to be given control of everything to keep the climate exactly the way it is.
(Meanwhile in California it's illegal to clear underbrush, creating a tinderbox for forest fires and forcing people to choose between safeguarding their homes or facing prosecution. In Utah the owner of a car dealership faced prosecution for collecting rainwater in a cistern to save money washing the cars on his lot. He didn't have water rights for the rain.)
The darwin dogma is used to their benefit when they make fun of the religious, then is completely ignored when they tout their climate change agenda.
It is unknown whether the thought has crossed their minds that the planet may be changing on it's own. Personally I think if the climate is changing we should adapt and get on with life. They claim we are the cause but are unable to prove it. I guess they just want everyone to trust them, to take it on faith.
Ironically hypocritical if you ask me.
HBARleatherneck
10-07-2010, 19:11
stop feeding the troll.
on other forums they ban trolls.
I smacked his shit down in the islam thread and I'll do it here to! [Shield]
Haha, nice smiley.
Well spoken by the way. I distinctly remember being upset about the depleting ozone in grade school, then being worried about acid rain later, and around middle school was when El Nino first made big news. By high school I was open to the idea of drastic climate change, but only because that's what nature does.
People have been telling children that if they touch themselves they'll go blind for centuries, but that never seemed to stop anyone either.
Like that what was posted above, I agree that GW is nothing more that a scam to transfer the wealth from wealthy nations to poor nations, processed of course through a central bank that will charge interest and fees to process those carbon credits.
Most people are too stupid to even listen to the financial clues that are out there, or they are just plain distracted watching American Idol or Dancing with the Stars.
Critical thinking is hard -
-FAA8lHW8wE
garette35
10-08-2010, 01:03
Hi, Elhuero I agree with most of your post and wanted to mention Colorado doesn't allow rain water collection either. I always thought that was about as messed up as it comes. I can't collect what is falling on my head and onto my property because my neighbor has a preexisting right to have it fall off my head down my land and onto his. WTF
When I was a kid scientists said that we were heading into another ice age.
Then they said acid rain was going to wipe out marine life and make drinkable water scarce.
In gradeschool I remember reading a book about a future when the air was almost unbreathable.
These inoculations of propaganda over the years have rendered me immune to the bullshit.
I don't deny that the climate may be changing. I do deny that it's man made and more taxes and government is the solution.
I also deny that it's all the fault of the "largest polluter", the United States. Did we kill any whales, build the plant outside Pripyat or cause a toxic river of sludge to pour into the Danube?
It's all politics, and it's all about control.
If you want to understand climate change, follow the money. The amount a single corporation can make is a pittance compared to what those in power will have if they can take control and tell everyone what to do and how to do it "for the good of the planet"
The climate change argument is another float in a long parade of liberal hypocrisy. They claim we evolved from primates, and that survival of the fittest is the law of nature.
Yet instead of supporting this ideal by being proponents of adaptation to the changing planet, they demand to be given control of everything to keep the climate exactly the way it is.
(Meanwhile in California it's illegal to clear underbrush, creating a tinderbox for forest fires and forcing people to choose between safeguarding their homes or facing prosecution. In Utah the owner of a car dealership faced prosecution for collecting rainwater in a cistern to save money washing the cars on his lot. He didn't have water rights for the rain.)
The darwin dogma is used to their benefit when they make fun of the religious, then is completely ignored when they tout their climate change agenda.
It is unknown whether the thought has crossed their minds that the planet may be changing on it's own. Personally I think if the climate is changing we should adapt and get on with life. They claim we are the cause but are unable to prove it. I guess they just want everyone to trust them, to take it on faith.
Ironically hypocritical if you ask me.
... mention Colorado doesn't allow rain water collection either. I always thought that was about as messed up as it comes. I can't collect what is falling on my head and onto my property ...
Don't advertise and no one will know....
"No, Bob, that barrel has been sitting there for years. Just never got around to taking it to the dump... What? That water in there? No, you don't want to drink that stuff, who knows what could be in it..."
lol [Beer]
In Boulder when you build, you have to consider your neighbor's access to solar. So you can't build too tall if it will cut off the light for either their panels or their South facing windows. Seems a little over board for an area where homes are built close enough to cast shade on each other.
ELhuero, you said that "Personally I think if the climate is changing we should adapt and get on with life."
That's okay if you have the money to adapt, like moving to a higher elevation when your beach house is overcome by the rising seawaters caused by human caused global warming.
But the majority of the poor who live by the world's coastline's can't afford to move to higher ground; so they are the first one's to suffer terribly, now and in the future.
I'm 59 year's old, member of a privately run survey, engineering firm for 38 years; and I live in the rolling hill's of Maryland.
My on personal opinion, especially in the last 10 years the world is getting warmer. Because I have toiled in the field, from Western, Central, to the Eastern Shore of Maryland; from West Virginia, to the snake and alligator infested swamp's of North Carolina, sweating my ass off, while the defacto head of the Republician Party: Rush Limbaugh, who has to be on the board for Exxon Mobil; sits in his air conditioned room behind his gold plated microphone, denying human caused climate change. That's why I consider Rush Limbaugh to be the most dangerous human being on the planet. And the whole world will pay the price!
HBARleatherneck
10-09-2010, 16:03
go away troll. go home.
Wow. I quite literally can't ever take anything you say seriously ever again Erno.
Wash. Post Fri. Sept. 24, 2010
The evidence for climate change grows: The first eight months of 2010 put this year on track to tie 1998 as the hottest year on record, global bleaching is devastating coral reefs and Artic summer sea ice is reaching new lows.
Rafe Pomerance, a senior fellow with the group Clean Air-Cool Planet, said he and other experts are stunned to see so many examples of global warming materializing at once. " I't is breathtaking to watch several indicators demonstrate simultaneously climate impacts from the poles to the equator," he said.
However, these developments, along with events such as massive wildfires in Russia and floods in China and Pakistan have done nothing to revive prospects for a climate policy that Pres. Obama has championed since taking office.
"While I think the Earth is warming, I don't think that manmade causes are the primary factors for global warming," Ken Buck, a Colorado Attorney who is challenging Sen. Michael Bennet [D], said in a televised interview this year.
Norway's Kongsbreen glacier still looms near Ny-Alesund, the northernmost human settlement on Earth. But along with the rest of the worlds glaciers, it is shrinking.
Robert Bindschadler, NASA's emeritus chief scientist, said that researchers are just beginning to grasp how warmer ocean waters are helping to erode ice sheets and that the temperature shift will lead to more rapid sea-level rise by the end of the century.
Oh-rah, GO RAVENS!
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HBARleatherneck
10-12-2010, 15:22
http://www.wtf.com/gallery/data/2/258Troll_spray.jpg
Trying to stop natural change is worse for the planet than letting it happen.
Troublco
10-12-2010, 18:10
Cut it out, Stu! Stop encouraging him! His village is probably out looking for him....
ERNO, look up the Beetle kill situation in the Colorado mountain in Grand county and tell me if you think that we should be actively trying to save the trees from the beetles.
Dalendenver
10-12-2010, 23:51
Really want to learn the truth about "global warming" without plowing through all the scientific journals? Read Michael Crichton's book State of Fear. He did it all for you. Very scientifically based. Even the "environmental scientists" are not talking about global anything any more, they talk about regional climate change.
Before the Kyoto convention, the first one, congress asked a group of scientists to give them the truth about global warming. A friend of ours was one of those on the investigation. The conclusion was that 80% of the greenhouse gases in the atmosphere came from volcanoes. Mans contribution for all of the time that we have been industrialized is less than .5%. China is a major producer from their burning coal mines that they can't put out.
My father was a Principal Scientist. Dad did not believe in global warming and knew the so called science behind it.
When the media reported that there was a consensus among scientists that global warming was real, the truth was that less than 25% of those at the world convention going on at that time signed on to the proclamation.
When the Sierra club or some other organization forces a state to file an enforcement suit against a company for polluting, the money recovered by the state from the suit goes half to the state and half to the Sierra club. Can you say it is all about the money?
Liberals HATE Michael Crichton for writing that book. It is regularly trashed on left leaning websites and I've yet to hear of any climate scientists saying they agree with him.
I was posting on a left leaning site (before those pussies banned me) and people were complaining about the rude comments were making when the latest Kennedy died. I pointed out that I had seen comments on the very same board about from people like "Burn in hell Michael Crichton!" That was a serious comment. I couldn't believe it. Once I brought up the subject, people continued to trash him by the way.
ERNO, look up the Beetle kill situation in the Colorado mountain in Grand county and tell me if you think that we should be actively trying to save the trees from the beetles.
No, it does not look like we can save the lodgepole pine from the beetles for now, but the pines can regenerate in 10 years.
But it looks like the Coloradoians have a Global Warming catastrophe in their own backyards.
The Forest Service said "That although Bark Beetles are a natural part of the Lodgepole Pine ecosystem, warm winters and the drought of recent years have intensified the problem. The combination has produced an ideal enviroment for the beetles to multiply and spread."
Sounds like to me, that theres no way to curtail pine beetle populations, unless you curtail Global Warming.
newracer
10-25-2010, 16:24
The biggest problem with the pine beetle is not global warming. It is the fact that man has suppressed fire for decades creating a homogeneous forest.
Birddog1911
10-25-2010, 17:30
Why do we have a liberal troll from back east trolling our Colorado website??
HBARleatherneck
10-25-2010, 17:34
Bird Dog, he is not a liberal. he is.... This is a direct quote from erno. i think he is either obama, pelosi, or soros's troll account
"I consider myself a lefty, but not a Communist. Just say, I'm a Capitalist with some Socialist leanings
I don't live in Colorado, I live in Maryland
I am not a "liberal",I'm a left wing radical" quotes by erno.
Birddog1911
10-25-2010, 17:35
He's a bloody idiot, he is. Hope he keeps his ass in Maryland; we have enough stupid here already.
theGinsue
10-25-2010, 18:03
Wow; you guys are just brutal towards ERNO today. While I rarely agree with it personally, I always enjoy hearing (reading) his opinions. It helps me to calibrate my beliefs.
The biggest problem with the pine beetle is not global warming. It is the fact that man has suppressed fire for decades creating a homogeneous forest.
+1 Bingo! We have a winner.
If the USFS allowed more controlled burns we'd get rid of a lot of existing and potential problems.
The really bad thing is that if anything sets those bettle killed areas ablaze, the heat generated would (so I'm told by a forest "expert") be significantly hotter than a standard forest fire and could likely be expected to destroy the soil which could prevent future growth. Not THAT is a problem.
Birddog1911
10-25-2010, 18:09
Ginsue, you are correct. The conflagration from all of those dead trees burning would create crown fires, and burn so hot that it burns the nitrogen out of the soil. That is what happened with the Haman (sp?) fire.
Sorry if my liberal bullshit meter is full up today.
What is the deal with all the teepee shaped piles of wood laying around in those areas? I heard that they'll burn them in the winter. Any truth to that?
Birddog1911
10-26-2010, 10:41
That I couldn't say; I haven't been up to the areas lately.
A friend told me that some park ranger told him that they were going to burn them in the winter. He was actually talking about a different area, but then we went around a bend and saw 100's of piles of beetle kill teepees.
Anyone know if they just give that stuff away for firewood or what?
I don't know if they would just "give it away" if they still had live beetles and all in them. Wouldn't that risk spreading an infection? I would think they'd just burn em on spot, hence the teppee style stacking.... but I don't know.
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