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SA Friday
10-24-2010, 12:57
My view on societies strange, misguided, or just interesting.
I've thought about doing this for a while now. I decided today that short of writing these thoughts down in a journal, I would start a thread so others could chime in too. I imagine some issues will get conflicting and debated viewpoints, but that is a good thing and the reason I decided to try this here first. I will upon occasion post a new thought or story as the thread goes on.
This whole idea started about 6 months ago. I've been working part time in a local Wal-Mart in the dairy section. At first it was to make ends meet, but is now more to make the family finances more stable and comfortable. It's a third income for me, and since there isn't the pressure of survival involved with this job, it's allowed me to reflect on much of what I've seen while working there. Needless to say, you see a LOT at your local Wal-Mart. If one pays attention, societies tragedies, humor, oddities, and triumphs all show up sooner or later. One just has to be willing to watch.
SideShow Bob
10-24-2010, 13:12
you see a LOT at your local Wal-Mart. If one pays attention, societies tragedies, humor, oddities, and triumphs all show up sooner or later. One just has to be willing to watch.
You are right about this, even as a customer all of this can be seen if one is observant and aware of their surroundings.
SA Friday
10-24-2010, 13:14
TOPIC ONE: WTF is it with the explosion of kids having kids?
Over the last six months, I have seen literally hundreds of teen aged girls with babies or pregnant. What-the-hell? What is going on with the teenagers that has glamourized being pregnant and having a kid at such a young age? This has always been a problem, but for the most part, the stastics showed it to be a poverty based issue. I'll tell you right now, I don't work in a Wal-Mart in a empovished area. These are kids from well-to-do families.
Something has effected this generation of teenagers into believing being pregnant and having a baby is ok and/or the right thing to do. This is a problem. This is going to affect future generations and not in a good way. There are systemic problems that come along with teenagers having babies; lower eductional levels, higher rates of phychological disorders, financial strain on the grandparents, just to name a few.
I'm pretty concerned about this apparent spike in this issue and the apparent spread of the anomoly to what should be stable family valued middle America. What I don't know is why it's happening. For those of you who have teeaged girls in your homes, ask them and post their thoughts. I don't want speculation about how the lack of going to church, or the downfall of our country... bla bla bla. Something has led to the glamorization of pregnancy and babies to the modern teenaged girl. What is it?
Simple: They see no apparent consequences to their actions. Used to be, parents went ballistic when they found out their underage children were having sex, nevermind the shitstorm that occurred if they happened to get pregnant. Now, parents give their kids (male and female) birth control, caution them to"abstain if you can, but if you can't, be careful" and go back to watching American Idol.....[Rant2]. The whole situation is symptomatic of a culture that has to a large extent trivialized the value of making good decisions and honoring one's commitments.
EDIT: to answer your question more directly, teens don't necessarily glamorize the whole parenthood thing, they simply no longer have anything direct and immediate to fear as a result of becoming pregnant
Pancho Villa
10-24-2010, 13:35
Wal-mart is a great study in why democracy of any sort is a bad idea.
Wal-mart is a great study in why democracy of any sort is a bad idea.
[LOL]
THAT is a quote of EPIC proportions!
SA Friday
10-24-2010, 13:43
Simple: They see no apparent consequences to their actions. Used to be, parents went ballistic when they found out their underage children were having sex, nevermind the shitstorm that occurred if they happened to get pregnant. Now, parents give their kids (male and female) birth control, caution them to"abstain if you can, but if you can't, be careful" and go back to watching American Idol.....[Rant2]. The whole situation is symptomatic of a culture that has to a large extent trivialized the value of making good decisions and honoring one's commitments.
EDIT: to answer your question more directly, teens don't necessarily glamorize the whole parenthood thing, they simply no longer have anything direct and immediate to fear as a result of becoming pregnant
It can't be that simple. Logic would dictate that people thinking like the above would coin out the $300 and get an abortion. I agree that parenting is a portion of the problem, but overall, it's peer acceptance and influence that drives a teenager's rationalization of right and wrong, cool and not cool. To overlook teenager's acceptance, and from what I'm seeing in some cases, DESIRE to become preganant and have a baby would be to overlook the root cause in this generation's viewpoint.
Basically, something is making this OK to them, and it isn't their parents. I have watched girls in the baby section, 16-17 years old and one of them is obviously the mother to a newborn absolutely bask in the fact they were shopping in the baby section, with the baby. All three were glamorizing, basking, and estatic. This isn't the only time I've seen it while there either. I see it over and over again. That's why I want to hear input from those after they talk to their teen daughters. I know I'm too removed from the thought process as a 40+ year old male to understand the thought process of a 17 year old girl.
SA Friday
10-24-2010, 13:52
Wal-mart is a great study in why democracy of any sort is a bad idea.
As a Wal-Mart employee, I'm stealing that quote. That is true like you can't believe. I'll address some of this in a different topic down the road.
Babies equal the best accessory! Who needs a nice car or designer threads when you can have a baby. I also feel a lot of children are negelected in the attention dept. and look for it in another, and a baby has too love you, RIGHT!
oh yeah, and baby bumps are just soooo cute!
jerrymrc
10-24-2010, 14:12
Babies equal the best accessory! Who needs a nice car or designer threads when you can have a baby. I also feel a lot of children are negelected in the attention dept. and look for it in another, and a baby has too love you, RIGHT!
No job? Just have a kid and instant income.....
Simple: They see no apparent consequences to their actions.
From my point of view with a niece, and teenaged female cousins, and some time teaching in the school setting:
The above quote hit it right on. Kids are now required to take classes where they promote sex and have to care for a computerized baby and etc. It really IS that simple that kids see no apparent consequences for their actions. If they get bored of the kid, they give it up for adoption or the parents of the kid take over.
I know it defies logic but it is true. Parents raise kids, not schools, not relaives, not friends, but the parents. A lot of parents I've run across say things like: "They can make up their own mind" or other variances where the parents do not take a pivatol role in the raising and educating of their children.
We used to teach that there is an absolute right and wrong, that sex is best to be had under teh convenat of marriage, that morals/standards/ethics etc had a place in ones' honor/integrity/etc.
Not any more. Now the "whatever makes me feel good" lifestyle is catching up to us.... rant off. But in all honestly, that quote above is a bullseye.
theGinsue
10-24-2010, 14:35
My daughter is 21, coming up on 22 years old so any input I'd get from her would be tainted by the knowledge and experience she has grown into as an adult (BTW: While she is in a serious relationship, she is neither pregnant or is a mother).
I think TFogger and XWiseX are hitting the nail on the head.
Mom and Dad are too busy watching American Idol and the sort to provide the type of attention that a child, especially a teenaged girl needs. The daily stress they have just supporting the family financially causes them to just ignore what is most important - their families. They just want to unwind and not have to deal with any more responsibilities once they get home.
Look at any girl from the time she is a toddler through the time she becomes a teen. They are given dolls to play with and they act the role of a parent to those dolls. These girls love their dolls and in their mind the dolls love them back. Once the girls become teenagers they lose a child imagination and the dolls no longer provide the loving relationship they crave.
They now no longer have the surrogate relationship of parenting to a doll. The sum of their lifetime experience tells them that they can get love from their own babies, and since they aren't feeling the love in their existing family relationships, they create their own family by getting pregnant.
Sure their glamorizing, basking, and ecstatic about having a baby, because they now have something that can fill the void of a loving relationship that they felt was missing.
Just my thoughts.
ETA: I also think that what TFogger & BigBear have said play a significant factor in the whole situation as well. In fact, I think they go hand-in-hand with what I was saying. (I just refrained from mentioning any ethics/morals/religious type of reasoning per the OP's request.)
That and why do girls 6-18 have to dress like cheap hookers?
theGinsue
10-24-2010, 15:07
Career preparation?
Speaking of Wally-World
http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/
Heard a very, very provocative program on the radio just this week that probably speaks to this in a big way. The speaker was an expert in sexual addiction and treatment (missed the beginning so not sure what organization) and he said that all of the studies show that teenaged girls actually consume more pornography than teenage boys. But it is marketed completely different to young girls--it comes through their teen magazines under the heading of "romance" and their clothing catalogs under the category of "fashion" and all of their romance reading and on and on in nearly every key aspect of young girls' lives. It is marketed as the most important and adult part of life. Little wonder then that girls are way primed by the time of puberty for "romance" and the sex that goes with it since they have been convinced that it is the passage into adulthood from the time they were little. Combine that with dads who are absent from their girl's lives, whether still living in the home and just too busy working and watching TV, or gone from the family chasing their own tail, and the desperate emptiness this leaves in a young girl to have a man hold her and tell her he loves her (what the father was always supposed to be doing) and is there any wonder why girls get sexually involved as soon as they can? I think not.
Half Live
10-24-2010, 15:19
It's those damn tv shows about pregnant teens and teen mothers in my opinion.
Byte Stryke
10-24-2010, 15:35
pretty simple actually
If I Caught my teenager having sex and getting a girl pregnant I would beat his ass and make him get a Job to support THEM (momma and baby)...
...and no consequently go to prison, lose all of my civil rights and They would all wind up a ward of the state anyways.
Most parents are left with no other option except
"screw it, the state wants to raise my kid, they can raise the grandkid too."
Or SAFriday could be experiencing the "Old Man Syndrome" in which it Appears babies are having babies, but the parents he are seeing are actually 20-25 and in a distortion of the time-space continuum as we get Older everyone else gets younger.
This was experienced by me at a certain club during my 40th Birthday party. When I pondered a young ladies age and instead of my normal perverse thoughts I wondered where the girls father was and why he let her out undressed like that.
[ROFL1]
Anyone seen the documentary "The Lost Children Of Rockdale County"? It's not an isolated event. Kids with everything but parenteral supervision. Sad.
Scanker19
10-24-2010, 18:49
It's those damn tv shows about pregnant teens and teen mothers in my opinion.
Like Secret Life of an American Teenager?
That show is an abomination.
Or SAFriday could be experiencing the "Old Man Syndrome" in which it Appears babies are having babies, but the parents he are seeing are actually 20-25 and in a distortion of the time-space continuum as we get Older everyone else gets younger.
Unlikely, I believe SA isn't much over 25 himself.
hurley842002
10-24-2010, 19:19
That and why do girls 6-18 have to dress like cheap hookers?
Beat me too it, however i'm going to expand on this a bit, as my Girlfriend and I were JUST talking about this the other day, and guess what, we were in Wal-Mart.
I've increasingly noticed and influx of GIRLS (not women), wearing extremely short tight shorts. Not to get to personal or anything, but my GF has those boy short undies that cover up more than these shorts that are being worn in public by girls between the ages of roughly 5-16 give or take, and one of the biggest problems I see, is 9 times out of 10, they are with their parents. It's not like 16 year old Lucy, is slipping into something "more comfortable" once she leaves her parents house, SHE IS WITH HER PARENTS.
Now I think pedophiles are some of the lowest form of scum, on the face of this planet, and there is no excuse for what they do, but how do you expect to keep your children safe from these POS's, when you are letting them run around basically wearing underwear.
I'm a very non confrontational person, and always have been, but it's all I can do to not say something to these people, for letting their children run around dressed like this. They usually always get a dirty look and a head shake from me however. That is all
Unlikely, I believe SA isn't much over 25 himself.
Impossible.
My fiance lived on her own, in her own apartment, in a different state from her parents, since she was 15 years old. She didn't get pregnant until she was 33.
I can't even fathom the level of responsibility that she had at 15, that I am just now achieving at 27.
I asked her how she managed to be a completely unsupervised 15 year old and not get into trouble, and basically it turns out that she was just 10 times smarter and more mature than everyone else at that age. She said her parents would always tell her that she was going to be dumb and get pregnant, even though she wasn't a bad kid and wasn't a little slut or anything, that she made it a point to never go down that road. I look up to her very much.
Byte Stryke
10-24-2010, 20:14
I dont believe that it was an issue of did we have sex or not
we didnt flaunt it
we didnt dress like trash
we were always EXTREMELY Careful and used protection EVERY TIME.
That was just the kids I ran with back then...
We knew that if anyone popped up pregnant the whole group would immediately come under fire.
It's not that we are better or worse than any other generation morally, Hell kids have been getting pregnant since the dawn of time and probably always will.
I guess we just knew that mommy and daddy weren't going to clean it up for us.
Impossible.
My fiance lived on her own, in her own apartment, in a different state from her parents, since she was 15 years old. She didn't get pregnant until she was 33.
I can't even fathom the level of responsibility that she had at 15, that I am just now achieving at 27.
I asked her how she managed to be a completely unsupervised 15 year old and not get into trouble, and basically it turns out that she was just 10 times smarter and more mature than everyone else at that age. She said her parents would always tell her that she was going to be dumb and get pregnant, even though she wasn't a bad kid and wasn't a little slut or anything, that she made it a point to never go down that road. I look up to her very much.
I was talking about Stryke's idea of SA viewing a 25yo as a teen. But yeah, I've been out on my own since 17yo and I think it makes for a stronger type of character.
There may be a "few" more now than in the past, but this is not new. It's just not hidden anymore.
In the 30's and 40s women were married as teens. In the 50's and 60's little Suzie went away for "summer camp" just as she was getting "chubby"
I'm a product of the 80's (I'm 42) and 3 girls I went to high school with had kids in high school.
My kids (daughters) are 7 and 8, my neighbors are a few years younger than I and their kids are a Sr in High school and a Freshman at CU. I go to parent nights at school, (or the Soccer field/gymnastics/whatever) and the moms are in their mid 20's but have kids the same age as mine.
now, all that said, I see a bad trend of parents trying to be their kids "friends" (especially teen girls and their moms). It's hard to tell your "friend" not to do something they want to do. My 8-year old tells me a couple time a week that "I'm the worst Dad in the world". . . .I say thank-you, because it means I'm doing my job
SA Friday
10-24-2010, 22:47
I can't find anything more current than 2007/8, but it appears 05 was the lowest in years, then the pregancy rate went up in 06 and 07. 08 is fell a little. Last I could find the CDC was talking about one third of teenage girls were pregnant before 20. We have had the highest teen pregnancy rates of any country for quite a while.
Definately some good input here. I never thought about the TV shows. We pulled our cable after being disgusted with having 2 our of 1000 channels worth a crap; Discovery and the History Channel. The rest is garbage, and I can see some of these shows glamorize pregnancy and babies.
The best thoughts so far IMO are the teen girl porn from romance and fashion. That's really interesting stuff. I'll have to think about that and see if I can find some more on it.
Hurley... What can I say. I see them too. It's the same Wal-mart. [Bang]
Edited to add: I'm pretty good at aging people. I'm not perfect, but I'm not mistaking 22 for 17 any time soon. I spend way too may hours on campus with 20 year olds all day long. I'm 41 BTW. I just act like I'm 27 :)
I was a little off there, for some reason I thought I saw a post where you said you were 28. I'm not always on my A game...I'm 28 going on 17 so it's all good man.
ChunkyMonkey
10-24-2010, 23:42
Oh hell, I got kicked out out of my country when I was 14 and have been on my own since then...and I never got pregnant! [Tooth]
You had your tubes tied cheater.
SA Friday
10-25-2010, 12:34
I was a little off there, for some reason I thought I saw a post where you said you were 28. I'm not always on my A game...I'm 28 going on 17 so it's all good man.
I may have posted something like that jokingly at one time or another. It's a running joke around my house that I celebrate my 27th birthday every year. Makes it easier to pretend the rest of the year too.
Whew... I was scratching my head. I was thinking, "I've met the dude (SAFriday) and though he seems to be in great shape and is extremely knowledgable and has great life experiences... I don't think he's in his late 20's. At least that's not how I'd profile him." I was starting to think I had my faces/names messed up.
bellavite1
10-25-2010, 12:44
Me and my wife go to Wal-Mart for entertainement purposes.
Sometimes I feel like I should pay a ticket to get in...
I thought I was weird![ROFL1]
hollohas
10-25-2010, 13:36
I do think there is some glamorization of teen pregnancy in the media. The MTV show Teen Mom comes to mind. Next time you are standing in the check out line in Safeway, look at the magazines...you will see these so-called teen moms on the cover of many of them.
That being said, I have to question that some of the girls you are seeing at Walmart may not been teenagers anymore. I am only 27 and I can hardly tell anymore...I bet it's even harder to tell when your 40. I say this because my wife and I had our first kid (fully planned) at 26. Everywhere we went, people were criticizing us for being too young to have kids. Got pretty old. The wife of a very good friend of mine also had her first at 26. While she was going to baby swim lessons, all the 40 year old new moms with babies gave her a hard time about being too young...many even going so far as to ask if he was an accident. Others asking why she would want to have a kid so young.
What I see happening is the culture is switching to having babies at an older age. It is perfectly accepted now to have your first child when the mother is 40+. This used to be a no-no as it increases the risk to the baby to get all sorts of bad disorders, etc. But now women are choosing their career over being a parent until they are much older. Nothing wrong with that of course from the woman's perspective but what is does show is our culture's general lack of support for working moms. These women are choosing to have children later because having a child can ruin their career. That is wrong. My wife, a soon to be licensed architect at age 28, has seen her career take a steep dive after having a child. The people at her work have stopped respecting her, they no longer view her as part of the team because she doesn't go out to the bar after work with them anymore. She sits at a desk all day but her work refuses to let her do the same work from home when the baby is sick and can't go to daycare. The she gets flak when she returns for everything she missed. They say "how sick could the baby really be?" Also, daycare costs a shit-ton. It helps to have an established career making some good money in order to still work and afford to have a child...something that many younger adults can't do yet.
Anyway, I guess that is a rambling way to say that I see the average age of moms increasing, not decreasing.
SA Friday
10-26-2010, 16:19
"You're out of original Yoplait Key Lime flavored yogurt? Well, that just pisses me off. I shop here all the time and you don't have any today. I'm pissed."
You can't believe just how common this is. There are 80 fricken flavors and at least three different brands on the damn wall. Pick something else or move along. If this were a rare tantrum, I would chalk it up to the individual, but this happens a lot. It reflects an aspect of our current society and who we are becoming as a whole. We are definately becoming spoiled and soft, and it's stemming from our consumeristic nature when it comes to food.
If the shit hits the fan, the herd will cull faster than any of us can imagine. If it's a fast reacting impact to society, grocery stores will be the first looted and subsequently turn into killing fields. A slower SHTF scenario will take longer to get there, but ultimately still end in a killing field. Most people just don't have to be flexible in their lives anymore to sustain a level of normalicy.
People just don't know how to cowboy-up anymore.
hurley842002
10-26-2010, 16:27
I buy the Greek Yogurt because of the protein, and I was quite miffed when Wal Mart stopped selling the Dannon and Yoplait Greek. Even went as far to send a letter to the Manager.
[Rant2]
Not really, i'd never do such a thing, and have to roll my eyes at the people that Bit$% about small things such as being out of Key Lime yogurt. I mean REALLY?
theGinsue
10-26-2010, 17:36
If the shit hits the fan, the herd will cull faster than any of us can imagine. If it's a fast reacting impact to society, grocery stores will be the first looted and subsequently turn into killing fields. A slower SHTF scenario will take longer to get there, but ultimately still end in a killing field. Most people just don't have to be flexible in their lives anymore to sustain a level of normalicy.
People just don't know how to cowboy-up anymore.
As I was reading your first two paragraphs I was already formulating my response which was going to look almost EXACTLY like your third paragraph. I just kept flashing to the book One Second After while reading those first 2 paragraphs and thinking how totally screwed these folks that share that mentality really are.
Gunny Highway in Heartbreak Ridge had the right idea and the right mindset for survival with his "Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome" phrase.
We used to have a friend that is a vegan. She is by far the most unrealistic person I've met. I kind of hope for tragedy just so I'll know that she is out there suffering. Absolutely unwilling to move on any topic at all. If she has a problem with a very simple solution, so simple that EVERYONE will tell her the same thing, then she'll do the opposite, just to avoid doing what someone else suggested to her. I give her 6 months before she lets the bank take her house and declares bankruptcy. SAFriday, you unwittingly tapped into a rant that has been simmering inside of me for months now. I don't even want to talk about it.
OneGuy67
10-26-2010, 19:16
C'mon Stuart! Rant away! I bet it isn't going to be much different than the musings in all our heads as well.
hurley842002
10-26-2010, 20:00
We used to have a friend that is a vegan. She is by far the most unrealistic person I've met. I kind of hope for tragedy just so I'll know that she is out there suffering. Absolutely unwilling to move on any topic at all. If she has a problem with a very simple solution, so simple that EVERYONE will tell her the same thing, then she'll do the opposite, just to avoid doing what someone else suggested to her. I give her 6 months before she lets the bank take her house and declares bankruptcy. SAFriday, you unwittingly tapped into a rant that has been simmering inside of me for months now. I don't even want to talk about it.
Hmmmm, if you hadn't mentioned the bank taking her house (because she doesn't own a house), I would have sworn you were talking about my room mate. She's a Vegan and EXACTLY how you describe. She has openly admitted to liking confrontation, and will go against the grain, just because, even if she's wrong. She is a horrible room mate, and a bleeding heart liberal. If the circumstances were different, we would move out just because of her. Rant off
I just want people to realize that the whole concept of veganism, and I believe vegitarianism as well, is a direct result from people living in excess. During the Great Depression and dust bowl, there was no such thing as a vegitarian, let alone a vegan.
On one episode of Penn & Teller's Bullshit!, they had a guy talking about PETA, and after reading their little motto, he stops and says something like, "This level of stupid, can only be achieved from having gone to college. You can't get this dumb unless you've been through higher education." At first I was a little insulted, since I had just graduated, but I really believe in the concept now. You have to achieve much higher than usual stupidity to even entertain the idea of becoming a vegan.
Of course I realize that in times of great need, people aren't gorging on steaks, but you eat what you can, when you can, even if it is a chicken.
We once asked her why she didn't consume things like milk or honey, things that those animals produced naturally. She said, "I don't like how those animals are treated. Those bees being crammed into such a small space." I swear to God that's what she said and it still baffles me. I guess it's no big deal for her to have three dogs locked up in her back yard all day long, but bees living in hives? Oh the huge manatee!
Oh yes, she also said that her kids get the choice, but she just tells them the facts. Which in reality translates to that they do NOT have a choice, and she just shows them PETA videos on youtube and stuff. I watched her kids for a while, and every day they'd come home and talk about how they didn't eat their lunch today. I'd ask them why, and they'd just shrug and tell me how hungry they were. You know what their lunch was EVERY day? PB&J, a juice box, and either pretzels or animal crackers. Every single day. Hell, I'd stop eating too.
One day I offered them both chocolate, and told them that it was milk chocolate. The little one declined, but the older one (7 and 8) said he'd try some. After eating a regular bite sized Hershey bar, he turned to me, eyes wide, and said, "Wow, this is actually good." I wanted to tell him, "No shit Sherlock, it's chocolate. The whole reason it exists is to taste good. Everyone in the world likes chocolate. Just because your mom doesn't want to eat animal products, doesn't mean that they don't taste good. So much for only getting the facts huh?" Of course, I couldn't say that because it is not my place to directly conflict the way some idiot lady wants to ruin, I mean raise, her kids. I did tell him, "Duh, of course chocolate tastes good. It is CANDY and candy tastes good."
Also, at 7 & 8, they each weigh less than my 3 year old. My 3 year old is currently off the chart on weight, but going in the right direction, and not enough for anyone to be concerned (even the doctors). This lady can't give blood because she doesn't have enough iron and is under weight herself.
There, I think that pretty much sums it up. Hope you're happy OneGuy, once I started, I couldn't stop.
hurley842002
10-26-2010, 20:40
[ROFL1][ROFL1][ROFL1] You actually caused me to LOL, and do an end table pound with the whole bees being crammed into that small space thing, thanks I needed that.
You think vegans are bad? try having a whole group of your family pretending they have celiac disease because of this whole gluten free fad. I've never wanted to slap someone so badly.....
Hmmm Bees "kept" for honey live in waaaaaay more spacious surroundings than they would make for themselves....
Oh I know! I insured an Apiary once. With people like that, there is just no use arguing.
Idiots, not people who own apiaries.
Troublco
10-27-2010, 01:01
All the stupid people are simply proof that life is waaaaaaaay too easy now. All these people are doing these things because they don't have to try to keep the natives from taking their hair, or go find, shoot, and clean some food, or have to cut firewood to try to keep from freezing. They don't have to cut sod or logs and build a house. Life got easy, and most people got stupid. Then they got TV, and the stupid got worse. And I think SA Friday hit the nail on the head. If the SHTF, people would die in droves because they couldn't suck it up and do what they need to. They'll wait for the govt. to come in and save them. Some will go victimize others, and it'll spiral out of control.
I'm sure a lot of these stupid people are technically very intelligent. However, if there's a disconnect between the intelligence and common sense, or if the common sense is missing, all the intelligence in the world isn't going to help. I once heard that "Common sense is an uncommon virtue", and I think that's one of the most accurate things I've ever heard.
But, stupid people definitely have the capacity to be entertaining.....[Tooth]
But, stupid people definitely have the capacity to be entertaining.....[Tooth]
From a distance
GJWV6R9fiLg
funkfool
10-27-2010, 08:58
Oh the huge manatee!
SNARF!!!!
I just had coffee come out my nose!
[ROFL1][ROFL2][ROFL3][LOL]
You think vegans are bad? try having a whole group of your family pretending they have celiac disease because of this whole gluten free fad. I've never wanted to slap someone so badly.....
oh yeah, my brother in law eats gluten free and forces his children to as well. whenever I ask if they've had the blood test to see if they have celiacs they change the subject.
oh well, I doubt I'm the only one in the "my brother in law's an asshole" club.
From a distance
GJWV6R9fiLg
The kayak scene looked fun. I'd do that! [Score]
The interweb has brought a breed of stupid to the masses.
All these people are doing these things because they don't have to try to keep the natives from taking their hair, or go find, shoot, and clean some food, or have to cut firewood to try to keep from freezing. They don't have to cut sod or logs and build a house. Life got easy, and most people got stupid.
There are four states trying to change their State Constitutions to specifically make hunting/fishing a right. A lot of people were saying that it is hardly necessary to be a right, when you don't HAVE to hunt to stay alive. PETA especially was saying stuff like, "What's next? Tanning is a right? Swimming?"
At first I was thinking the same thing, but then it occurred to me, if you don't have the option to hunt or fish, then you MUST go get your food at the grocery store. Everyone should have the opportunity to provide for themselves 100%, while living in society, as long as they follow the rules.
oh yeah, my brother in law eats gluten free and forces his children to as well. whenever I ask if they've had the blood test to see if they have celiacs they change the subject.
oh well, I doubt I'm the only one in the "my brother in law's an asshole" club.
It's one thing to just say "I'm on a gluten free diet" but when you try to play me and convince me your entire family unit is ALLERGIC to gluten I'm gonna pull the bullshit card every time
OneGuy67
10-27-2010, 20:11
I was diagnosed with celiac after I had a colonoscopy. The ol' garden hose shoved up my tailpipe showed the signs I was feeling. Luckily, my reaction is pretty mild. I get irritable bowel syndrome, gas and loose stools when I eat pasta, heavy breads or drink beer. All things I like!
I guess it could be worse.
Sorry to hear that foxtrot and I don't mean for those who actually have it to be the target of my rant. I do have a problem with some new age healer telling my family they have it. When you blab on and on about it but have no paperwork or proof of any kind that you were ever actually tested, well meh. I think I have to also explain the folks in my family are the types that are so weak minded they would join some cult and jump off a bridge if the leader said so, so I take EVERYTHING they say with a grain of salt.
SA Friday
10-29-2010, 14:47
Yep. Teens just go to walmart and hang out. Friday and Saturday nights mostly. They just come in, make messes, steal alcohol, play the free video games, steal other things, open up packages and eat/drink stuff and leave the wrappers there (stealing)...
HEY! Get the f out! This isn't an amusement park, and your parents should kick your asses for being out this late, stealing stuff, and making more work for those working at Walmart. It's friday night tonight and I have to work till 2200. I guarantee that I will have to deal with at least one set of teens tonight. The night crew have to deal with this all the time.
How can anyone possibly think it's cool to go to Walmart and hang out? [Whacko]
I took the niece and her stupid friend to Safeway once. I let them off the chain, then saw them running around the store chasing each other wearing only socks, knocking stuff over, and eating food and dropping wrappers. Needless to say (hopefully), I was fucking pissed. I yelled at them and marched them out of the store. They are 12 by the way. They didn't even need anything at the store, they just wanted to go outside. Kids are fucking dumb and I hate them.
Troublco
10-29-2010, 15:06
Yep. Teens just go to walmart and hang out. Friday and Saturday nights mostly. They just come in, make messes, steal alcohol, play the free video games, steal other things, open up packages and eat/drink stuff and leave the wrappers there (stealing)...
HEY! Get the f out! This isn't an amusement park, and your parents should kick your asses for being out this late, stealing stuff, and making more work for those working at Walmart. It's friday night tonight and I have to work till 2200. I guarantee that I will have to deal with at least one set of teens tonight. The night crew have to deal with this all the time.
How can anyone possibly think it's cool to go to Walmart and hang out? [Whacko]
I worked security for Southlands Mall part time for a while, and every Friday and Saturday night we'd have groups of teens shuttling back and forth between the Walmart and the big plaza in front of the movie theater, and up and down the main street. We saw some of them so often we knew them by name AND knew their parents by sight (after having some of them picked up multiple times) and all they'd do is hang around and bother the paying customers, and cause trouble. A lot of the parents that we would wind up contacting would get at least irritated that we didn't feel the need to parent their children for them. We'd catch them doing ALL manner of things, in all sorts of dark corners. Yes, ALL manner of things. It was pretty amusing, the look on their faces when we'd bust 'em in the act. But it begs the question, what kind of parents just let their kids run loose all the time, to be doing all those things at all hours? These are the same people that get on TV crying because something happened to their kid, and then they want to blame the police, or the mall, or whoever, when it does. I get that the kids just want to be out with their friends, but a parent can't be their kid's best friend (by letting them do whatever they want, whenever they want) and be an effective parent at the same time.
It seemed to me that these kids don't have (or want) a clue about the difference between what public and private is. They think if you can walk in to somewhere, it's public and they can do what they want. We'd explain to them that the mall was privately owned, and if they wanted to be there they had to act a certain way, period. Fortunately, we had an Aurora PD substation there and there was almost always at least one officer around to assist with the worst of them. The attitudes that some of these kids have is mindblowing.
A lot of the parents that we would wind up contacting would get at least irritated that we didn't feel the need to parent their children for them. ........
The attitudes that some of these kids have is mindblowing.
And as discussed before, that's the problem today. Parents not raising their kids.
As far as the attitude comment all I can say is "Amen". You should spend a few hours "Observing" in your kids classroom someday.
SA Friday
12-15-2010, 15:50
From my LE and military training, I learned there are different levels of awareness one can be in depending on the circumstances. Level white was the most relaxed level and should only be used in a known secured location. Well, there are a butt load of people out there that think walmart is a secure location. Years ago, I started calling people who walk around in public oblivious of their surroundings 'mouth-breathers'. You know the type, eyes focused on one thing or nothing at all and walking around with their mouth wide open and not paying attention to a damn thing. They show up at walmart all the time. My favorite variety of this species is the 'stupid mouth-breather'. This is the person that's obviously in MB mode and arbitrarily walking around the store. You ask them if you can assist them (they obviously need it), and they ask you where the xxxxxx is located. You then point to the whole wall of xxxxxx right behind them, sometimes even right in front of them. They then go back to slack jawed and vacant mode.
Life can get heavy. I get this and stuff can cause an internal monolog of debate about what to do, but shopping at walmart isn't one of these burdens. That many people concentrated in one space should demand one's attention a little more than daydreaming on the couch. Hell, disregarding the safety aspect, common courtesy should require paying attention enough to be respectful of everyone else.
theGinsue
12-16-2010, 20:17
I'm with you Friday, but the "Mouth Breathers" are the faster growing population element in the U.S., if not the world.
People are happily oblivious to anything but the carrot on the stick in front of their faces. They actually think that they prefer to be stupid and not know what's going on around them. But, as far as teh whole common courtesy thing, that would tend to cause them to refocus on someone other than themselves - even just for a few seconds - and that is typically unacceptable (to those people).
You've got enough training and personal experience in sociological and psychological behaviors to know that this is only going to get worse, not better. This is why I have so little hope for humankind at all.
Troublco
12-16-2010, 23:23
Well, if the S ever HTF then the mouth-breathers will self-cull, since they're too stupid to do anything but wait for someone to come save them. Reminds me of the old joke about the guy who decided to stay at home during a hurricane, because he was sure the Lord would save him. As the storm goes on, the water rises and he has to go up on the roof. A police boat comes by and offers to take him to safety and he replies "No, the Lord will save me." Few hours later a guy in a rowboat comes by and offers to take him off and he says "No, the Lord will save me." A couple hours after that the water is almost to the peak of the roof and a helicopter comes by and tries to get him but he refuses and says "No, the Lord will save me." An hour later he drowns. When he gets to the pearly gates he asks the Lord why he didn't save him. The Lord replies, "I sent two boats and a helicopter." [Coffee]
Only one cure for stupid....[AR15]
SA Friday
08-07-2011, 20:55
"Do you have any nine-mill wad cutters?"
Shoulda handed him a box of Tula.
SA Friday
08-07-2011, 21:47
I told him no, and never will as they don't exist. They wouldn't cycle through the gun.
I moved to sporting goods if you can't tell. I've dealt with more than one goofy ammo purchaser. It's funny when I get one that thinks he knows what he's talking about and really doesn't have a clue. Some are adamant they know what they are purchasing is the only thing to use (Tula...). I try to explain when I see they are receptive, but if I see walls of arrogance, I let them suffer.
I get the whole walmart thing... Sadly though, I love walmart, just not some of the people.
Stuving vegitarians have been around for a very very long time. [Beer] Other than 90% of them use the "harsh treatment of animals" as an excuse to be one, what's the other problem with them? Or do you just not like those dipshits? Just wondering.
This is an old thread, did I say something about vegetarians earlier in here>
SA Friday
08-07-2011, 22:15
This is an old thread, did I say something about vegetarians earlier in here>
It isn't that old.... Maybe you're just getting old and have forgo.... what was I saying?
Scanker19
08-07-2011, 22:30
I'm in love with the singer.
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Scanker19
08-07-2011, 22:36
People seriously are out of touch with reality. I keep telling people that Idiocarcy was not just a movie but a prophecy. They laugh at me.
It's those damn tv shows about pregnant teens and teen mothers in my opinion.
This is what I was going to bring up.
This is an old thread, did I say something about vegetarians earlier in here>
You are right, this is an old thread... I didn't see that earlier.
Ya, you had a few comments about em. It sounded like you had something against vegetarians. Was just wondering why that's all. [Beer]
There are four states trying to change their State Constitutions to specifically make hunting/fishing a right. A lot of people were saying that it is hardly necessary to be a right, when you don't HAVE to hunt to stay alive. PETA especially was saying stuff like, "What's next? Tanning is a right? Swimming?"
At first I was thinking the same thing, but then it occurred to me, if you don't have the option to hunt or fish, then you MUST go get your food at the grocery store. Everyone should have the opportunity to provide for themselves 100%, while living in society, as long as they follow the rules.
I hunt and have probably 300#s of meat in my freezer from pheasant elk deer turkey antelope all which is natural better than even the "organic" foodat the store. I bet I haven't spent more than $40 on store bought meats in the last 3 years. Talk about huge money savings.
The vegans and vegetarians don't like my comments and I don't have any as friends. No need for them in my life
Talking about the Wal-Mart thing, it's exactly the same working here at the hospital.
I don't have a problems with vegetarians generally. It's vegans that I have a problem with. Some people are vegetarians because they have to be, or just don't like the taste of meat. Fine with me. Vegans are assholes though.
I don't have a problems with vegetarians generally. It's vegans that I have a problem with. Some people are vegetarians because they have to be, or just don't like the taste of meat. Fine with me. Vegans are assholes though.
Ah gocha, ok. I will agree on the vegan thing, haven't met one that hasn't been so overly opinionated to the point of being completely annoying.
Okay, so I've noticed this more and more lately, and I saw it again tonight at Wal-mart.
People who let their kids stay in the basket while the checker is removing the groceries, or let their kid ride on the baggie carousel. Tonight at Wal-mart some asshole was letting his kid sit on the baggie carousel, so the poor checker had to try and spin it around with the guy's stupid kid on there. I've seen more than one person leave their kids in the cart while it gets pushed around behind the checkout counter. The person working the register has to work around the kid taking the groceries out, AND putting them back in. Why don't these employees ever say anything?
I would just move their basket and yell "Next in line please!" Ridiculous.
How about kids running all over the store and knocking the stuff off the shelves and their parents not giving shit about it.
Yeah, that too. I just get more mad about stuff in the check out line because it is specifically disrespectful to a person, and neither party says/does anything about it.
They don't say anything 'cause they can't...
Okay, so I've noticed this more and more lately, and I saw it again tonight at Wal-mart.
People who let their kids stay in the basket while the checker is removing the groceries, or let their kid ride on the baggie carousel. Tonight at Wal-mart some asshole was letting his kid sit on the baggie carousel, so the poor checker had to try and spin it around with the guy's stupid kid on there. I've seen more than one person leave their kids in the cart while it gets pushed around behind the checkout counter. The person working the register has to work around the kid taking the groceries out, AND putting them back in. Why don't these employees ever say anything?
I would just move their basket and yell "Next in line please!" Ridiculous.
They don't say anything 'cause they can't...
^ Took the words right out of my mouth. It would take a whole five minutes before losing your job if you opened your mouth, even if it was completely justified.
That must have pissed you of if you went and drug this thread back up... [ROFL1]
It did piss me off. After some little brat almost plowed my daughter over on his skate shoes the other day, I've become more vocal.
These are the people of walmart...........[ROFL1]
You should come to ours and visit with "Stacy", you'll forget about the annoying kids...... [LOL]
It did piss me off. After some little brat almost plowed my daughter over on his skate shoes the other day, I've become more vocal.
I tripped a kid in pizza hut once who was running around like crazy. That shut his ass up...mom wasn't happy bout it....but oh well. My wife knew it wasn't an accident ...
BREATHER
09-27-2012, 05:11
I didn't read all these post although interesting. The young ones having babies... Between the young dumbasses and the welfare babies we have been starting to get a population of bastards and rejects. No one thinks anymore, most do what the media says to do and they're mostly retarded/ And there are barely any consequences anymore. All the psych pros says it ain't your fault...
ronaldrwl
09-27-2012, 08:48
The age of the mothers and fathers seem to be younger but maybe it's because kids are maturing much later. Look the 25 year boys you see now. Boys are taking longer to grow into men. It's hard to believe some of the great generals and leaders in past centuries were 16 years old.
BTW – I'm an expecting grandfather. My 26 year old married daughter is having her first child. By historical standards, that's very late in life.
HoneyBadger
09-27-2012, 09:48
These are the people of walmart...........[ROFL1]
I just had to... [ROFL3][ROFL3][ROFL3]
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All the stupid people are simply proof that life is waaaaaaaay too easy now. All these people are doing these things because they don't have to try to keep the natives from taking their hair, or go find, shoot, and clean some food, or have to cut firewood to try to keep from freezing. They don't have to cut sod or logs and build a house. Life got easy, and most people got stupid. Then they got TV, and the stupid got worse.
this is the answer to the whole thread
Teufelhund
09-27-2012, 10:50
All the stupid people are simply proof that life is waaaaaaaay too easy now. All these people are doing these things because they don't have to try to keep the natives from taking their hair, or go find, shoot, and clean some food, or have to cut firewood to try to keep from freezing. They don't have to cut sod or logs and build a house. Life got easy, and most people got stupid. Then they got TV, and the stupid got worse. And I think SA Friday hit the nail on the head. If the SHTF, people would die in droves because they couldn't suck it up and do what they need to. They'll wait for the govt. to come in and save them. Some will go victimize others, and it'll spiral out of control.
this is the answer to the whole thread
Agreed. More evidence that warning labels should be removed from everything. We've done our best to eliminate Natural Selection via legislation and now we are saddled with carrying the weakest members of the herd. When the SHTF, I'm going to board up the windows and sit quietly on my pile of ammo until most of the morons have killed themselves off.
SA Friday
10-20-2012, 19:27
I know it's been a while, but here some new ones (I think).
Seriously, how Fn hard is it to put shit back? You are standing there, just took it from the place it should be, and NO. Your give-a-shit is completely broke. What kind of self entitlement must one have to act this way?
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Me: "Sorry, we're completely out of XXXXX. None in the store and the warehouse is out of it too."
Customer: "So do you have any in the back?" [Shock]. Ya, silly me. Never thought to check there three hours ago when I started my shift and saw we were out of it. I checked the warehouse but for ALL ABOUT in the back.
Different customer: "So you're out of it?"[Bang]. You just said that to hear yourself talk, right.
Different customer: "How can you be out of XXXXXXX?" [Dunno]. Magic, like talking the limit as n goes to infinity and ending up with zero, just happens...
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Great-Kazoo
10-20-2012, 20:21
These are the people of ANY STORE YOU HAPPEN TO BE IN...........[ROFL1]
You should come to ours and visit with "Stacy", you'll forget about the annoying kids...... [LOL]
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