My biggest risk as an employer

[Sparky]

Is employees. Is it to much to ask that you show up on time? If your going to be late call me before 7:00 am start. Do I really want you if your going to text me "I need a personal day. I will hit it hard tomorrow". Material is going to cost what it is, but employees can make or break a project.

[Beefy]

Sounds like a bad Monday. :( I hope your week gets better! [Beer]

[hip55]

There are plenty of good people out there looking for work.

Show the slow leaks the door.

[Marlin]

Yeah, I'd spend 20 minutes laying a guy out for the next day. Only to have him not show up.. Glad I don't have to put up with that anymore..

Although it would be nice to be working a little more than I have been recently...[Abused]

[Mtn.man]

Yeah I know zactly. Can't beat em anymore.

Had 1 that called in 2 hours late because his dog was having puppies and freaked his wife out.

[TEAMRICO]

Seeing as how I just retired from the Army I am a stickler for showing up early.
With my new job I am unsupervised and it is all on me to show up to clock in on time.
I usually get to work 20 to 30 minutes early!
For me this is nothing new.
I never want to be rushed unless it is an actual emergency.
Im always thinking ahead for the next day and what may come up.


so if you want my resume.................[Tooth]

[SideShow Bob]

Hurry up, then wait. The only way to be.

[trlcavscout]

Early is the only way to go. Unless the company you work for is fucking you every chance they get, then I show up after my breakfast burrito.

[Anton]

I'd be surprised if you couldn't replace an employee in five minutes flat. No reason to keep employees you can't rely on when ten people are ready to take their place.

[theGinsue]

There are 2 of us in my shop that show up @ 0600 every day. We have morning IT checks that need to get done and it's the same 2 of us EVERY morning. These check cover critical items such as equipment status, online storage utilization, compressing databases, fixing hardware and software that is in a maintenance status, etc. They have to get done to ensure mission integrity.

I've got one co-worker that varies his time in by up to an hour and a half throughout the week. When the two of us who always get there early pre-announce that we'll be late the next day we would expect that the morning checks would be complete by the time we do arrive. Nope. Not even started. It's at this point that I walk away and won't touch the checklist myself. I figure if the boss want's them done, then he can start acting like a boss and insisting that everyone step up to the plate and do the work. As just another employee, I've decided not to babysit these adults and pull their weight too. I find this difficult because of my dedication to the mission, but I've finally realized that it only drags me down to do their share of the work and my assigned tasks fall behind (which I hear about from the boss!).

[jerrymrc]

I start at 6 but am there at the latest by 5.15. Old military habits die hard. My wife needs a job and being ex military has the same old school ideas about being there and on time. has worked for NASA, Quantum and SI international. ;)

[<MADDOG>]

I'm lucky, I have guys I have to kick out the door because they'll work without pay if I let them...

[Zundfolge]

Wow Sparky, what a micro managing, slave driving jerk. Your employees clearly need to unionize so they can stand up together against your abuses.

[SAnd]

If you normally get there early a delay won't make you late. I never bought into "traffic was heavy", or "I had a flat tire", or "it snowed" excuses. The starting time is the starting time.

[theGinsue]

While I was down in Kentucky when my mother-in-law passed away, I had the opportunity to see and learn a little about the nearby Amish community.

Lots of folks hire the amish to build and install custom cabinetry in their homes. When they are hired on and they are supposed to start at 0700, they have hammer (or whatever tool they're using) in hand and are swinging it @ 0700. They break for lunch promptly at the pre-identified time for punch, but not a second sooner. They return from lunch or any other break and a working when the clock meets the time they're supposed to be working. They continue working up the the moment that they are supposed to stop. If they feel they didn't give you 100% due to illness or what-have-you, they deduct the percent they feel they were off from their wages they charge you.

Sure, I goof off at work much more than I should, but I was absolutely amazed and totally respected their work ethic. Too bad we don't see even a small amount of that ethic in the rest of society.

JS (Just sayin)

[Anton]

When they are hired on and they are supposed to start at 0700, they have hammer (or whatever tool they're using) in hand and are swinging it @ 0700. They break for lunch promptly at the pre-identified time for punch, but not a second sooner. They return from lunch or any other break and a working when the clock meets the time they're supposed to be working

How do they know what time it is if they can't have wristwatches?

[Hitman 6]

Do I really want you if your going to text me "I need a personal day. I will hit it hard tomorrow".

You are a hell of a nice guy for keeping that person around. That would be the end of any employment with most all of the people I know, in fact my boss and quite a few others I can think of would reply something like "You can hit the new job hunt as hard as you want tomorrow, because you aint working for me anymore"

The way things are right now, it's an employers market. Get rid of them and find yourself some quality help man. Just my $.02.

[theGinsue]

How do they know what time it is if they can't have wristwatches?

You know, funny thing. That's what I thought too, but I saw a few things that totally floored me. I saw an Amish man on a Kubota tractor, I saw 2 different Amish women using battery powered calculators, and I saw an Amish store where they used a new electric cash register. I heard tale of them using gas powered electric generators to charge cell phones and tools.

I was told that they are getting a bit more lenient about that sort of thing. My thoughts were "Isn't the restriction from using those types of items sort of what makes them Amish?"

[Anton]

You know, funny thing. That's what I thought too, but I saw a few things that totally floored me. I saw an Amish man on a Kubota tractor, I saw 2 different Amish women using battery powered calculators, and I saw an Amish store where they used a new electric cash register. I heard tale of them using gas powered electric generators to charge cell phones and tools.

I was told that they are getting a bit more lenient about that sort of thing. My thoughts were "Isn't the restriction from using those types of items sort of what makes them Amish?"

Interesting, thanks. Kind of sad to hear, in a way.

[jmg8550]

I get to work and am punched in 15 minutes early. I have paperwork to do that I like to get done before my crew gets there. Does that mean I leave early? No. I stay till it's time to go home. If it snows, I leave with enough time to get there on time. Sometimes that doesn't happen the way I planned, but that is usually the result of some other moron that needs to learn to drive in the snow. I have always been early to work.

[Sparky]

Wow Sparky, what a micro managing, slave driving jerk. Your employees clearly need to unionize so they can stand up together against your abuses.

[SNAFU]

You know, funny thing. That's what I thought too, but I saw a few things that totally floored me. I saw an Amish man on a Kubota tractor, I saw 2 different Amish women using battery powered calculators, and I saw an Amish store where they used a new electric cash register. I heard tale of them using gas powered electric generators to charge cell phones and tools.

I was told that they are getting a bit more lenient about that sort of thing. My thoughts were "Isn't the restriction from using those types of items sort of what makes them Amish?"

You do know there are different degrees of the Amish? I grew up around he Amish,my Grandfather was a vet,and was often of to help them. Either with a down horse,difficult calving,or other problems. Almost always paid promtly,mostly with food,,goods{quilts,and wooden}, as well as cash.
They taught him to make GREAT wicker seat/backed rockig chairs.
Sure they were not Menanites? or Quakers?

"Technology is generally where you will see the greatest differences between Amish orders. The Swartzentruber and Andy Weaver Amish are ultraconservative in their use of technology - the Swartzentruber, for example, do not even allow the use of battery lights. Old Order Amish have little use for modern technology, but are allowed to ride in motorized vehicles including planes and automobiles, though they are not allowed to own them. The New Order Amish permit the use of electricity, ownership of automobiles, modern farming machines, and telephones in the home. "

[KevDen2005]

If you normally get there early a delay won't make you late. I never bought into "traffic was heavy", or "I had a flat tire", or "it snowed" excuses. The starting time is the starting time.


EXACTLY. I purposely tell my girlfriend that the time we need to be somewhere is 30-60 minutes before we need to be there because I know she will cause me to be late otherwise.

Great gal otherwise, just never learned to tell time

[Byte Stryke]

Seeing as how I just retired from the Army I am a stickler for showing up early.
With my new job I am unsupervised and it is all on me to show up to clock in on time.
I usually get to work 20 to 30 minutes early!
For me this is nothing new.
I never want to be rushed unless it is an actual emergency.
Im always thinking ahead for the next day and what may come up.


so if you want my resume.................[Tooth]


Same here

[Irving]

I may not always be on time, but I hardly ever, EVER miss a day of work.

[Byte Stryke]

Had an employee that not only showed up late, but he started clocking in early (if you get my drift). Sad thing is, he was a friend of mine that I rescued from layoff at another company because I'm a nice guy and I got the "familys going to fail" story... though I know better. To top it off too, was definately overpaid for the position. B/c they couldn't adjust to making less than before [BooHoo]

Well anyway, sometimes I work day + nights on occasion.. you know, 16, 18, sometimes 20 hours.. And.. there is a back door and a back parking lot. That means, when I see someone drive up the front, it's time to go home out the back. They show up with no clue I was just there three minutes ago... and I check in later and low and behold they are clocked in two hours before they got there. So, that person no longer works for me. [Bang] thats been about ~4 months ago.

As an employer, give everyone just enough rope to hang themselves with, and secretly check in. It's the only way to separate the good from the bad.

Lastly, limit temptation. Even medocre employees can be good employees if they simply don't have the ability to screw everything.

character, it is that thing you do when you think no one is looking.
;)

[palepainter]

If my employees called in with a BS excuse, or none at all, I let them have that day and the next day off too.

[BigBear]

You know, funny thing. That's what I thought too, but I saw a few things that totally floored me. I saw an Amish man on a Kubota tractor, I saw 2 different Amish women using battery powered calculators, and I saw an Amish store where they used a new electric cash register. I heard tale of them using gas powered electric generators to charge cell phones and tools.

I was told that they are getting a bit more lenient about that sort of thing. My thoughts were "Isn't the restriction from using those types of items sort of what makes them Amish?"

Basically (VERY basically) the different Amish tenents are present for just a simpler way of life so that they can commune with their God without the wordly temptations and distractions. There are some Amish "tribes" (for lack of a better term at the moment) who do allow certain technological advances such as phones, to make their lives a little more conveinent and to tell spread their faith and way of living. Amish folks are some of the best people I've ever met, and I've meet a lot of people in my short life, from Aboriginals to true Africans to Russians to Native Indians. Very sincere people. However, I doubt you'll ever find a Amish sect with an Xbox any time soon. lol.


If you normally get there early a delay won't make you late. I never bought into "traffic was heavy", or "I had a flat tire", or "it snowed" excuses. The starting time is the starting time.


Rgr that. My Grandpa always said, "If your early, you're on time. If you're on time, you're late." This from a man that was in the feilds working at 4 a.m. and didn't get to bed till 11ish... Man, I miss you grandpa... RIP.



Character, ethics, intergrity, standards, etc seem to be on the downward trend. But we've had that discussion. People used to think "Is it right and will it help," but now they think "can I get away with it and how much will I make". Sad but I feel it's true.

[StagLefty]

Character, ethics, intergrity, standards, etc seem to be on the downward trend. But we've had that discussion. People used to think "Is it right and will it help," but now they think "can I get away with it and how much will I make". Sad but I feel it's true.

The very fabric of our country is being torn apart due to the loss of fundamental standards.

[Hoosier]

I'm moving towards "Results Only Work Environments" (ROWE) where you don't have a set time of any kind. As long as the work is done, when you do it doesn't matter. Productivity skyrockets. Obviously, not all projects can be done this way, sometimes you need to work with a large group of people which requires semi-standard working hours (depending on their TZ)... but it's increasingly uncommon.

Also, telecommuting saves me ~1.5 hours every day, countless miles on my car, much cheaper/better lunches, better office facilities. I can't really see myself going back to work in an office.

H.

[TEAMRICO]

Well, like I tell my wife, I will only work until Obama lays his blanket of security over me and my family.
Thing is guys I really need you guy to keep working so this can be provided to me.
I feel I am entitled to this because...well because, I exist.
I dont care where the money comes from, just as long as I can spend my Obama Cash at the Gov. approved stores run by union.
Now get back to work and get off this site, I WILL REPORT YOU to a .GOV site.
like www.turninyourneighbor.com< not real..........YET.

[Byte Stryke]

www.turninyourneighbor.com< not real..........YET.


damnit, its www.turninyourneighbor.GOV and it doesn't go up until after the elections.

[Marlin]

I'm moving towards "Results Only Work Environments" (ROWE) where you don't have a set time of any kind. As long as the work is done, when you do it doesn't matter. Productivity skyrockets. Obviously, not all projects can be done this way, sometimes you need to work with a large group of people which requires semi-standard working hours (depending on their TZ)... but it's increasingly uncommon.

Also, telecommuting saves me ~1.5 hours every day, countless miles on my car, much cheaper/better lunches, better office facilities. I can't really see myself going back to work in an office.

H.


Just wish I could push a couple of buttons on the computer and run a few hundred feet of pipe. Or, put switchgear together.. [Tooth]

[rockhound]

lazy out new guys in, only way to do it.