View Full Version : anyone familiar with this Millet scope?
Would this be a good scope for my AR? And what kind of rings would I need? http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=740823
My scope mount......
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/my%20AR15/DSCN3459.jpg
All depends on your intended use. And I wouldn't use my 16" AR for much past 300m
You should be okay with something closer to a 1-4x
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=582858
ETA: I believe the mkAR qualifies for optics planet's 10% off promo which would put it closer to $243 shipped.
You should be okay with something closer to a 1-4x
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=582858
Why's that? Price-wise, the Millet is only 10 bucks more. Is the Millet too big or too powerful? Seems to have some great reviews.
I don't really understand the numbers on scopes too well, I have to admit I'm not sure what the "4-16x50mm" means. I just want to be able to see and hit small things out to maybe 300 yards or so. Paper targets, clay pigeons, soda cans, golf balls, etc., maybe some p. dogs if I get a chance.
My major lust is easy operation. I like the idea of knobs for focusing and adjustments, insead of removing dust caps and using a screwdriver (which I never have).
Why's that? Price-wise, the Millet is only 10 bucks more. Is the Millet too big or too powerful? Seems to have some great reviews.
I don't really understand the numbers on scopes too well, I have to admit I'm not sure what the "4-16x50mm" means. I just want to be able to see and hit small things out to maybe 300 yards or so. Paper targets, clay pigeons, soda cans, golf balls, etc., maybe some p. dogs if I get a chance.
My major lust is easy operation. I like the idea of knobs for focusing and adjustments, insead of removing dust caps and using a screwdriver (which I never have).
The 4-16x is the adjustable range of magnification power (fixed power optics will just have one number like 16x50) and the 50 is the diameter of the objective lens (ft lens - in mm). When it comes to AR's I like to keep it as light and compact as possible and theyre better suited for close to midrange shooting so the leupy (or something similar) has my vote there. This may be helpful in making your selection: http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1938091#Post1938091
That particular scope is highly regarded as a very low end tactical scope for long range shooting. It will be more than adequate for your current needs, and would also go well on a bolt gun if you ever decide to try your hand at precision shooting. As a rule, spend as much as you can on glass. If that is at the top of your budget, I think it's a good choice.
Hitman 6
10-30-2010, 09:21
I'm pretty sure my buddy Ogen Rwot has that exact same scope on his .308. It is a great scope, you'll be ready to engage steel at 600+ no problem.
Thanks all! Kinda sounds like it's a great scope, but a bit much for an AR-15. Perhaps better suited for my Rem. 700/.30-06? But it's already scoped, I need something for my AR.
Realistically, I'm just a plinker & half-assed target shooter. No hunting, competition, or combat/tactical training, I only hunt and kill soda cans full of water. I'd shoot p. dogs, but doubt I'll ever get the chance. Max. range will likely be 300 yds., the rare 600yds. for giggles, 100yds. will be typical. I basically need decent magnification for, say, golfballs at 100 yds. I'd prefer knobs for adjustments so I don't have to dick around with screwdrivers and taking off/losing/damaging caps.
It's tough for me to shop online, I'm more of a hands-on shopper that likes to compare one against the other side-by-side. And I don't want to spend a bunch of money, Like I said, I just shoot for fun, there's no "stakes" involved where I need high-end optics.
Any suggestions for a local place where I can gawk at and fondle a decent selection of scopes in person? With affordable pricing too.
Any suggestions for a local place where I can gawk at and fondle a decent selection of scopes in person? With affordable pricing too.
I don't know of anyplace in Denver or COS that has any sort of selection of scopes with tactical type turrets like you're wanting. What I've seen is either very high end stuff, or total junk.
Here's a link to another option.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=950843
I'm considering this for a .22 trainer rifle for cheap practice. It's fixed power which is fine for me, maybe not for you.
Any opinions on the Nikon M-223's? I kinda like the looks of this one..... http://www.opticsplanet.net/nikon-2-8x32-matte-nikoplex-bdc-riflescope-8486-8487.html
OgenRwot
11-01-2010, 16:41
Yeah I've got that optic...but it's on a Remington 700 in 308. The only reason I would ever put that much glass on an AR is if it has a floated match grade bbl.
FWIW that Millett is a great optic. It's super clear, holds zero, easy to manipulate the controls and for the price, well it can't be beat. They have them at SWFA (http://www.swfa.com) as well, for a little less I believe.
You should look into the leatherwood CMR scope..
http://swfa.com/Leatherwood-1-4x24-CMR-Tactical-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P45852.aspx
Troublco
12-11-2010, 22:33
I have a 3x9x40 nonfancy Mil-dot Tasco on one of my AR's that wears a 16" 1-9 barrel, and I use it to hit steel targets out to 500 yards with white box Winchester .223 ammo. It will hit the steel every time if I do my part. The gun really deserves a much better scope, but so do several others I have and that nonfancy scope works. This gun has a Magpul CTR, so it's not like it's all set up for long range or anything although it does have a JP trigger. So even though it's a carbine length barrel, it may be perfectly accurate out far enough to make that scope worthwhile, depending on what you want to do with the rifle. And it looks like a great unit to me, I'm rather tempted to get one to replace the old 3x9 tasco.
DTOM1775
12-13-2010, 18:44
If you have any questions about the Leatherwood CMR, let me know. It is pretty solid, decent glass, good reviews (per blogs, midway reviews, YouTube and Nov. 10 Shotgun News article by David Fortier). I am also a CMR owner. Leatherwood/Hi-LuxOptics is coming out with a Red reticle version in February as well. The reticle is currently green. There aren't any actual store locations in Colorado that I'm aware of that actually have one for you to look at. I can send you pics of mine, or better yet, some links that I've book marked that have pics of the reticle and user reviews.
OneGuy67
12-13-2010, 19:06
The Leatherwood CMR scope has a very busy crosshair. Is it easy to use?
DTOM1775
12-13-2010, 21:09
Hey OneGuy, I like the reticle, because I like the BDC. I find it really easy to use. Simply zero the dot at 100 yds, then you can use the hold over for longer ranges. I also like the fact that on the BDC, they left a space open where the hold over tic marks and the verticle line meet, so it doesn't cover up the target. One of the reviews on MidwayUSA.com actually talks specifically about this feature and how he likes it as well.
I think reticles can be a personal preference for what you want to get out of them. I use my CMR on my .223, and I've let my buddies use it as well. And we consistently hit steel targets (18" to 22") out to 400 yds using the BDC. And, I don't find that it is really too busy for me.
Hope this helps.
DTOM1775
12-14-2010, 18:20
One Guy, here is a link to another blog about the CMR. You might find it interesting: http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2218439
OneGuy67
12-14-2010, 20:07
Thanks! I'm in the market for a decent AR optic to shoot distance.
nathan0259
12-15-2010, 23:14
Hey OneGuy, I like the reticle, because I like the BDC. I find it really easy to use. Simply zero the dot at 100 yds, then you can use the hold over for longer ranges. I also like the fact that on the BDC, they left a space open where the hold over tic marks and the verticle line meet, so it doesn't cover up the target. One of the reviews on MidwayUSA.com actually talks specifically about this feature and how he likes it as well.
I think reticles can be a personal preference for what you want to get out of them. I use my CMR on my .223, and I've let my buddies use it as well. And we consistently hit steel targets (18" to 22") out to 400 yds using the BDC. And, I don't find that it is really too busy for me.
Hope this helps.
+1 for the CMR I love mine. It's a great scope.
Any opinions on the Nikon M-223's? I kinda like the looks of this one..... http://www.opticsplanet.net/nikon-2-8x32-matte-nikoplex-bdc-riflescope-8486-8487.html
Yeah I've got that optic...but it's on a Remington 700 in 308. The only reason I would ever put that much glass on an AR is if it has a floated match grade bbl.
Byte Stryke
01-24-2011, 07:55
For your Consideration
http://www.bsaoptics.com/scope.aspx?productID=46
Horizontal (Windage) turret has a cover with a hand adjustable turret under it.
I usually remove it at the range and replace it when I am done.
Vertical (distance) turret has no cover and is marked for various ranges.
I find this easy for firing at different distances at different targets.
It also has different turrets for different bullet weights.
I Have had mine for a while now, Holds Zero when my son doesn't spin the turrets for me. I use mine because it works well with the old man eyes.
Not blind yet, but probably need a little help past 300yds.
Reticule is simple, operation is simple. solid scope for the money ($159.95)in my opinion.
all of that said.
Remember 5.56 NATO and .223 REM Ballistics are going to be different and you will have to adjust your range accordingly.
other than that, I like it fine.
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