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theGinsue
10-29-2010, 17:43
"Don't worry. They're good people. They're only coming here for a better life. You've got nothing to worry about"

Yeah, I don't care if it was one of their own (another drug dealer) they beheaded, how soon before they get brave enough to behead someone who isn't associated with drugs because that person represents a threat to their business?

I still say SECURE THE BORDERS.


Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39914899

Arizona beheading raises fears of drug violence
CHANDLER, Ariz. — The gruesome case of a man who was stabbed and beheaded in a suburban Phoenix apartment has police investigating whether the killing is potentially the most extreme example of Mexican drug cartel violence spilling over the border.
Martin Alejandro Cota-Monroy's body was found Oct. 10 in a Chandler apartment — his severed head a couple feet away. One man suspected in the killing has been arrested, and a manhunt is under way for three others.

Detectives are focused on whether the men belong to a Mexican drug cartel, and they suspect that Cota-Monroy's killing was punishment for stealing drugs. The brutal nature of the killing could be designed to send a message to others within the cartel.

"If it does turn out to be a drug cartel out of Mexico, typically that's a message being sent," said Chandler police Detective David Ramer. "This person was chosen to be executed. It sends a message to other people: If you cross us, this is what happens."

Decapitations are a regular part of the drug war in Mexico as cartels fight over territory. Headless bodies have been hanged from bridges by their feet, severed heads have been sent to victims' family members and government officials, and bags of up to 12 heads have been dropped off in high-profile locations.

More than 28,000 people have been killed in Mexico in drug-related violence since December 2006, when President Felipe Calderon deployed soldiers to battle the cartels in their strongholds.
If the suspects in the Arizona case belong to a cartel, the crime could be the only known beheading in the U.S. carried out by a drug cartel, said Tony Payan, a political science professor at the University of Texas at El Paso who has done extensive research about border violence.
hurley842002
10-29-2010, 17:52
[Rant1][Rant1] People had BETTER vote American, that's all I have to say. The current fu%ks in Office obviously don't have our best interests in mind (not old news by any means), or they would have done something LOOOONG ago. How long before the American people actually have to get into gun battles near the border to defend themselves?
mx'r
10-29-2010, 18:35
maybe we should file a lawsuit against mexico and central america. that should do the trick[ROFL1]
hurley842002
10-29-2010, 18:39
maybe we should file a lawsuit against mexico and central america. that should do the trick[ROFL1]

LMAO, we could. It's called handle your people, or we are dropping the hammer. But never from the current admin.
sniper7
10-29-2010, 19:18
They should just pass a law allowing open shootings of anyone crossing the border or than designated checkpoints. I know plenty of people who would volunteer their time and ammo to sit watch.
Irving
10-29-2010, 19:18
I don't see how putting a fence up would change anything. You could build a fence around LA and the entire country would still have gang problems.
Irving
10-29-2010, 19:19
They should just pass a law allowing open shootings of anyone crossing the border or than designated checkpoints. I know plenty of people who would volunteer their time and ammo to sit watch.


Why bother? Apparently the local police know where all the action is, and will tell you not to be there, because they won't be there. If the police aren't patrolling certain areas, it'd be pretty easy to just go there alone and have a gunfight and get away with it right?
mx'r
10-29-2010, 19:23
Or we could try giving them a "timeout". That seems to be working well in our society.
Elhuero
10-29-2010, 19:32
give war a chance
rockhound
10-29-2010, 19:35
they will be shooing cops in the street

did you see the police office in mexico that was throttled with 1000 rounds of ammo and 6 hand grenades over the weekend.

but they are such civilized people.

i say send them up to washington so that maybe they can get the hint.
Irving
10-29-2010, 19:35
I asked Gloria the other day, "If we pulled all our troops out of the middle east tomorrow, then the next day invaded Mexico, would you support that war?"

Her answer was, "Fuck yeah I would support it!" lol
SNAFU
10-29-2010, 20:21
it'd be pretty easy to just go there alone and have a gunfight and get away with it right?

We setting up a "camping" trip? {I hope and pray ;) }
I go a lot of places there are no LEOs nor is there a EMT/Medevac.
Never needed them before,besides they are "reactive".
I much prefer to be PROACTIVE
ChunkyMonkey
10-29-2010, 20:31
No worries folks, Obama administration have taken steps to prevent any future beheadings. The feds are investing over $30 million dollars in below tshirts and signs along the drug traffic route. Problem solved.

http://rlv.zcache.com/no_beheading_tshirt-p2359988873994292672dt06_325.jpg
hurley842002
10-29-2010, 20:32
The problem is (and many of you may already be well aware), these "mules" that come across the border to run drugs into the US, don't have the option of opting out or failing, they are either low level Cartel members, or Mexican citizens, being forced or paid to bring drugs over. Either way, they either successfully deliver, or they face the consequences (probably death). It's either kill or be killed. Guess we just need enough people down in those areas LEO won't even patrol, that don't mind doing some killin.
[M2]
BigMat
10-29-2010, 20:36
We setting up a "camping" trip? {I hope and pray ;) }
I go a lot of places there are no LEOs nor is there a EMT/Medevac.



I WISH! There were a number of times my feeling was

"screw this, they'll sort it out!"

But no such luck for me [Tooth]
mx'r
10-29-2010, 20:53
No worries folks, Obama administration have taken steps to prevent any future beheadings. The feds are investing over $30 million dollars in below tshirts and signs along the drug traffic route. Problem solved.

http://rlv.zcache.com/no_beheading_tshirt-p2359988873994292672dt06_325.jpg


[Beer]
Byte Stryke
10-29-2010, 21:02
they have also been shooing cops in the street




Fixed it for you
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Denver_police_officer_shooting)
mx'r
10-29-2010, 21:23
Fixed it for you
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Denver_police_officer_shooting)


Interesting read. Did anyone watch the governor debate the other night? Interesting that Hickey owned a resturant that employed this scumbag. [NoEvil]...
SNAFU
10-29-2010, 21:29
Fixed it for you
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Denver_police_officer_shooting)

No they are'nt vindictive,now are they?
hurley842002
10-29-2010, 21:30
Interesting read. Did anyone watch the governor debate the other night? Interesting that Hickey owned a resturant that employed this scumbag. [NoEvil]...

Yup, and next thing you know, Tanc is doing an ad, where the LEGAL Immigrant tells his story about how is child was killed by an illegal, do to the immunity in Denver. GO TANC!
M2MG
10-31-2010, 08:45
This is a serious situation, but you guys shouldn't loose your heads about it!!!

M2MG
TriggerHappy
10-31-2010, 09:06
They should just pass a law allowing open shootings of anyone crossing the border or than designated checkpoints. I know plenty of people who would volunteer their time and ammo to sit watch.


I have known a few people in Alaska that would make that trip once a year. It was considered an annual hunting trip for them. Border Patrol knew about it, but looked the other way. That is the "story" I was told. When they told me that the M1A I was holding had "drawn blood", I figured from moose and caibou....they just smiled...