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BigBear
11-01-2010, 10:53
At what point do you have to have a FFL to transfer items?

For instance, if I want to build a firearm. What part must be "registered" and shipped through a FFL? More clearly, could I order a barrel, stock, reciever/action, trigger all seperately and put it together myself; or does the action/reciever have to go through an FFL?


Hope that makes sense. Thanks for the help on the noobish question.

hip55
11-01-2010, 10:58
I think that the part of the firearm that has the serial # on it must go through an FFL.

StagLefty
11-01-2010, 10:58
To the best of my knowledge the lower is the part that has to go through an FFL on a transfer. If that's not right someone else will be along to correct me.

BigBear
11-01-2010, 11:07
I think that the part of the firearm that has the serial # on it must go through an FFL.

Is there a "standard" part that has a SN on it?...



To the best of my knowledge the lower is the part that has to go through an FFL on a transfer. If that's not right someone else will be along to correct me.

I'm not talking an Ar-15 here, though I wish I could. I'm thinking of a 10/22 type build or some other squirrel type gun.

Just thinking, don't have the $$ to actually do anything, just a question that popped up. Which part has to go through the FFL.


I'm thinking it'd be the action/reciever on a .22LR type build, but I wanted to know if anyone knew for sure.

TFOGGER
11-01-2010, 11:15
The serialized part must go through an FFL, this is normally the receiver (lower receiver in the case of an AR) or frame. As far as ATFE is concerned, that is the "firearm". All other parts are freely shippable without restriction.

BigBear
11-01-2010, 11:18
Rgr that, that's what I thought and needed confirmed.

BPTactical
11-01-2010, 11:22
The receiver and or frame of the firearm is the serialized component and therefore the component that requires transfer by a FFL if purchased new. They must be serialized by the manufacturer per BATF regulations prior to being released for sale.
Nothing other than NFA items are "registered" in CO. A NICS/CBI background is not a "registration".
Ancillary components such as barrels, stocks etc are plain over the counter/internet sales.

SAnd
11-01-2010, 11:32
Nothing other than NFA items are "registered" in CO.
How are NFA items "registered" in Colorado?

BigBear
11-01-2010, 11:53
The receiver and or frame of the firearm is the serialized component and therefore the component that requires transfer by a FFL if purchased new. They must be serialized by the manufacturer per BATF regulations prior to being released for sale.

Nothing other than NFA items are "registered" in CO.
A NICS/CBI background is not a "registration".

Ancillary components such as barrels, stocks etc are plain over the counter/internet sales.

Rgr



How are NFA items "registered" in Colorado?

Getting into semantics. He's just talking about how I liberally used "registered" and was clarifying what it really meant.

NFA items are registered with the ATF through the Form1/4's you must fill out in order to recieve the product. I guess they are considered registered in CO since that would be the addy on the paperwork.

BPTactical
11-01-2010, 11:57
How are NFA items "registered" in Colorado?

I guess maybe my statement was not worded correctly. Colorado does not require "registration" per se. NFA items are registered at the Federal (BATF) level.
Therefore NFA items are the only items that are "Registered" in Colorado, albeit not registered directly with the state.

SAnd
11-01-2010, 13:35
I follow what you are saying now. Ain't English fun?

BigBear
11-01-2010, 13:36
Ain't English fun?


Rgr dodger, Mr. Hodger! I ain't not be doin' nuttin'!!!

BPTactical
11-01-2010, 18:58
Ain't English fun?

Speshilly cints I lernd two sp€ll!