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BPTactical
11-20-2010, 08:45
Well the Annointed one is going to use his Executive powers and shove through one of his far lefties again...........This time to head the BATFE!
Just what I thought-he would lose the majority and shove crap down our throats during the lame duck session.
Folks this one is a clear and present danger to our 2A rights.
Contact EVERYONE you know!
http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=6084
http://onlygunsandmoney.blogspot.com/2010/11/who-is-andrew-traver.html



Friday, November 19, 2010
Statement From NRA-ILA Executive Director Chris W. Cox
The NRA strongly opposes President Obama’s nomination of Andrew Traver as director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE). Traver has been deeply aligned with gun control advocates and anti-gun activities. This makes him the wrong choice to lead an enforcement agency that has almost exclusive oversight and control over the firearms industry, its retailers and consumers. Further, an important nomination such as BATFE director should not be made as a “recess appointment,” in order to circumvent consent by the American people through their duly elected U.S. Senators.
Traver served as an advisor to the International Association for Chiefs of Police’s (IACP) “Gun Violence Reduction Project,” a “partnership” with the Joyce Foundation. Both IACP and the Joyce Foundation are names synonymous with promoting a variety of gun control schemes at the federal and state levels. Most of the individuals involved in this project were prominent gun control activists and lobbyists.
The IACP report, generated with Traver’s help, called on Congress to ban thousands of commonly owned firearms by misrepresenting them as “assault weapons,” as well as calling for bans on .50 caliber rifles and widely used types of ammunition. The report also suggests that Congress should regulate gun shows out of existence and should repeal the privacy protections of the Tiahrt Amendment—all efforts strongly opposed by the NRA and its members.
Traver also participated in an extremely deceptive NBC Chicago report (http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/Assault-Weapons-Surge-in-City-69620227.html (http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/Assault-Weapons-Surge-in-City-69620227.html)) in which he referred to “the growing frequency of gang members and drug dealers using heavy caliber military-type weapons” and described them as if they were machine guns: “Pull the trigger and you can mow people down.” Traver and his agents provided the reporter with a fully automatic AK-47, with which she was unable to hit the target. He then said that stray bullets are “one of the main problems with having stuff like this available to the gangs.”
As the Agent-in-Charge of Chicago’s BATFE office, Traver knows that fully automatic firearms are not available through normal retail channels—the opposite of what was implied in the report.
An agency involved in the regulation of a fundamental, individual right guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution should not be led by an individual with a demonstrated hostility to that freedom. For that reason, the NRA strongly opposes Andrew Traver to head the BATFE and urges President Obama to withdraw this ill-advised nomination.




The chair is against the wall...............

Byte Stryke
11-20-2010, 08:54
Yeah we should make more laws banning guns.
I think all guns should be banned because then criminals wouldn't have them, They would have to turn them in like everyone else and the streets would be safe again.
/sarcasm

Irving
11-20-2010, 09:43
First anger, then despair.

KevDen2005
11-20-2010, 09:47
The chair is against the wall...............


Is that from Red Dawn?

Ed_S
11-20-2010, 09:57
When are the anti-gun idiots going to wake up.

More gun control laws will not prevent 'bad' people from getting them.

Ever seen a gang member at your local gun store - nope!

Also what's their thing about .50 calibre, if it's not 'assault weapons' it's .50 calibre. I don't get that one?

As Cartman once said 'Democrats piss me off'.

Mazin
11-20-2010, 10:25
Is that from Red Dawn?


LOL I believe it is....


Avenge ME!!!!!

BPTactical
11-20-2010, 12:26
Is that from Red Dawn?


No- it is actually what was broadcasted to the underground organizations in WWII to advise them that D-Day was underway and to begin disrupting commo and logistics.



John has a long mustache......

Ranger
11-20-2010, 12:44
What did you expect, nearly every questionable appointment by this ass clown of a president has been whacko and always done in a recess. ONE TERM ONLY PLEASE!

patrick0685
11-20-2010, 18:19
what are the chances that he will make it though?

BPTactical
11-20-2010, 19:38
what are the chances that he will make it though?

Considering Oboingo's past record with appointee's - About 99%.

Think about it- permanently banning "Assault Weapons" was one of his campaign agendas. He has been able to push through just about every other campaign promise but he was suspiciously silent on this one. He knew that if he mentioned an AWB prior to mid terms it would be a death knell for any candidate that endorsed it.
Now he knows that when the new Congress gets seated his "Appointments" are not going to get the easy pass that Kagan, Sotomayor, Sunstein and the like got when he had the majority.
Now he is appointing this clown in recess and will use his Executive powers to push the appointment through.
I guarantee you he does get appointed we WILL see another AWB and it will be much worse than the Clinton era ban.

We need to contact every Congress critter and Senator that we can to try to keep this appointment from occurring.

clublights
11-20-2010, 19:52
I guarantee you he does get appointed we WILL see another AWB and it will be much worse than the Clinton era ban.


If it does I see a LOT of " tragic" boating accidents in the near future.....

argonstrom
11-20-2010, 20:21
The days of the Assault Weapons Ban will soon seem like a walk in the park...:eek:

Byte Stryke
11-20-2010, 20:44
Ever seen a gang member at your local gun store - nope!


Actually...
http://www.bsdgames.com/Tex/Web/0031.JPG

I Kid, I know its a novelty Shirt. But you must admit the idea would stir the gun grabbers.

and I fail to see how obama can appoint anyone and have it pass during recess.
It's not like we have to have this nutcase in office due to time of war or some crap...


If it does I see a LOT of " tragic" boating accidents in the near future.....

So we are all going snipe hunting in that really remote part out past 11 mile that can only be reached by boat this weekend?

clublights
11-20-2010, 20:50
So we are all going snipe hunting in that really remote part out past 11 mile that can only be reached by boat this weekend?

I think we might have too...

Byte Stryke
11-20-2010, 21:14
I think we might have too...
at 2am so that if the boat flips there will be no witnesses and no way to identify what was lost..... because thats when the snipes come out.

or is that Augers?
you seen augers before right?
Burrowin critters and mean too.
http://www.thepostholewizard.com/wp-content/uploads/auger-hole-in-yard-1.jpg
and HUGE.. heard tell one tore a mans Leg clean off.


July 14, 2010 (http://www.spokesman.com/2010/jul/14/) in City (http://www.spokesman.com/city/), Idaho (http://www.spokesman.com/idaho/)
Man loses lower leg in auger accident

Mean, I'm Tellin ya

[ROFL1]

clublights
11-20-2010, 21:41
at 2am so that if the boat flips there will be no witnesses and no way to identify what was lost..... because thats when the snipes come out.

or is that Augers?
you seen augers before right?
Burrowin critters and mean too.

and HUGE.. heard tell one tore a mans Leg clean off.

Mean, I'm Tellin ya

[ROFL1]

Them Augers are awfully mean ............. better be sure we are well armed when we go lookin for em ...... wouldn't wanna run outta ammo at the wrong time. they are known to attack in packs ya know...


And Tor .. I think ya need to replace the batteries in the ol sarcasm meter.

Sixgun
11-20-2010, 22:00
I like the name COAR Commandos.[Muaha]

theGinsue
11-20-2010, 22:11
I guarantee you he does get appointed we WILL see another AWB and it will be much worse than the Clinton era ban.

The next AWB will not only cover firearms with all of the goodies that don't effect the operation of the firearm that the first one did (such as a bayonet lug & flash suppressor), but will provide a stricter focus on any firearm with a magazine (certainly for detachable, but perhaps even for attached magazines) .

The scope of the new ban will make us yearnb for the days of the last AWB. Those firearms owners who said of the last AWB "it doesn't apply to any of MY guns" will be singing a different tune.

Word is that the new AWB would affect pump shotguns, as well as every handgun that takes a magazine, semi-auto shotguns and even hunting rifles with detachable mags (like the Browning BAR & A-Bolt, even the Ruger 10/22).


We need to contact every Congress critter and Senator that we can to try to keep this appointment from occurring.I don't think it will made one iota of a difference since Obummer is using Executive Privledge to make this recess appointment. He didn't get the idea to appoint this guy after Congress went into recess, he's been planning this recess appointment for a while but knew he'd have to do it this way to avoid the normal issues associated with Congressional approval.

Ed_S
11-21-2010, 11:15
[/quote}
and I fail to see how obama can appoint anyone and have it pass during recess.
It's not like we have to have this nutcase in office due to time of war or some quote]

I think he did a similar stunt with another appointee? Can't remember who or what it was for though although it even angered some Democrats.

As for 1 term, I hope so!

BPTactical
11-22-2010, 10:25
Mods-
Can you move this over to the "legislation" forum and maybe make it a sticky.
We need to be on this one like white on rice.

argonstrom
11-22-2010, 10:43
I'm puzzled by the lack of responses.

BPTactical
11-22-2010, 11:07
I'm puzzled by the lack of responses.

As am I-

People wake the hell up!
This appointee is a very real threat to our 2A rights. Jesus, the Brady Campaign endorses him!

If you do nothing about this you will not have to worry about our 2A rights being taken away.
You will GIVE them away.....



You need to contact every organization you belong to- NRA, GOA, SAF, RMGO etc and voice your opposition.
Call/write our Congressmen and Representatives.

Irving
11-22-2010, 11:09
I am a little concerned that neither the NRA, RMGO, nor GOA has emailed me about this yet.

BPTactical
11-22-2010, 11:14
I am a little concerned that neither the NRA, RMGO, nor GOA has emailed me about this yet.

NRA e mail alert was my first knowledge on this Stu...

Irving
11-22-2010, 11:30
Hmmm, maybe it is because I usually instantly delete them.

theGinsue
11-22-2010, 13:31
Mods-
Can you move this over to the "legislation" forum and maybe make it a sticky.
We need to be on this one like white on rice.


I'm puzzled by the lack of responses.

No Mods/managers online right now with the authority to move/modify this thread.

sniper7
11-22-2010, 15:09
When are the anti-gun idiots going to wake up.



I don't ever see it happening. we need to start with their children[Coffee]

sniper7
11-22-2010, 15:10
No Mods/managers online right now with the authority to move/modify this thread.


whats the matter, training wheels stuck?[ROFL1][ROFL1][ROFL1][ROFL2][ROFL2][ROFL2]


J/K![Tooth]

sniper7
11-22-2010, 15:12
I'm puzzled by the lack of responses.


Just got back from a fun hunting trip!

I got the email on this, not a good thing.

what are we to do though...the NRA, RMGO, NAGR etc etc all say they strongly oppose, file a petition, etc etc, but in this lame duck session, I really think we are S.O.L.[Bang]

Graves
11-22-2010, 15:35
Ever seen a gang member at your local gun store - nope!

Ever been to the Firing Line?

ChunkyMonkey
11-22-2010, 15:37
When are the anti-gun idiots going to wake up.


When they are shot by the bad guys.

argonstrom
11-22-2010, 23:30
I'm puzzled by the lack of responses.


No Mods/managers online right now with the authority to move/modify this thread.

I was actually talking about member responses - your training wheels are cool with me. :D