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I didn't notice this report when it came out in July and just came across it. Holy crap.
"KEY FINDINGS
Illegal immigration costs U.S. taxpayers about $113 billion a year at the federal, state and local level. The bulk of the costs — some $84.2 billion — are absorbed by state and local governments.
The annual outlay that illegal aliens cost U.S. taxpayers is an average amount per nativeheaded household of $1,117. The fiscal impact per household varies considerably because the greatest share of the burden falls on state and local taxpayers whose burden depends on the size of the illegal alien population in that locality
Education for the children of illegal aliens constitutes the single largest cost to taxpayers, at an annual price tag of nearly $52 billion. Nearly all of those costs are absorbed by state and local governments.
At the federal level, about one-third of outlays are matched by tax collections from illegal aliens. At the state and local level, an average of less than 5 percent of the public costs associated with illegal immigration is recouped through taxes collected from illegal aliens.
Most illegal aliens do not pay income taxes. Among those who do, much of the revenues collected are refunded to the illegal aliens when they file tax returns. Many are also claiming tax credits resulting in payments from the U.S. Treasury."
Full report here:
http://www.fairus.org/site/DocServer/USCostStudy_2010.pdf?docID=4921
How can I become illegal? Worst that can happen is I get deported back to the country of which I came. And last I checked Denver isn't that far away.
How can I become illegal? Worst that can happen is I get deported back to the country of which I came. And last I checked Denver isn't that far away.
HAH! [ROFL1]
I'm serious there is no motivation for illegals to become citizens. Free healthcare, schools and no income tax. I've even heard that some people driving without licenses and insurance get a pass because they are illegal. With a law like Az our police would only be able to turn them over to ICE. We need some politicians with balls or enough fear of loosing their jobs to do the right thing about this problem and end it.
We need some politicians with balls or enough fear of loosing their jobs to do the right thing about this problem and end it.
Like Tancredo? :(
Instead we only get politicians who are actively trying to make the problem worse...
Illegal immigration is in the top 3 serious issues we face as a state and nation.
The looper certainly won't deter illegals from coming here, Tancredo would have. Most of the citizens of this state seem to be OK putting out all that money for illegals, I just hope they get to feel some pain too.
I have discussed this issue with libtards and the ones I have talked to think illegals have paid their dues and are entitled to all that this country has to offer. I will repeat - the only way these people will change is through a traumatic personal event caused directly by an illegal alien.
trlcavscout
11-29-2010, 13:32
Illegal immigration is in the top 3 serious issues we face as a state and nation.
The looper certainly won't deter illegals from coming here, Tancredo would have. Most of the citizens of this state seem to be OK putting out all that money for illegals, I just hope they get to feel some pain too.
I have discussed this issue with libtards and the ones I have talked to think illegals have paid their dues and are entitled to all that this country has to offer. I will repeat - the only way these people will change is through a traumatic personal event caused directly by an illegal alien.
Nope! Just ask the libs and half the hispanic population here, illegals are not a problem and dont cost US citizens money. I hear it from a couple mexicans who are mexican born at work all the time. They say the problem is the white people on unemployment.
I guess the libtards and illegals are right. It's not a problem.
I'll just return to watching dancing with the american survivor.
Nope! Just ask the libs and half the hispanic population here, illegals are not a problem and dont cost US citizens money. I hear it from a couple mexicans who are mexican born at work all the time. They say the problem is the white people on unemployment.
Wouldn't need unemployment if their wives and daughters didn't take all the whore jobs too.
Jumpstart
11-29-2010, 18:28
I didn't notice this report when it came out in July and just came across it. Holy crap.
"KEY FINDINGS
Illegal immigration costs U.S. taxpayers about $113 billion a year at the federal, state and local level. The bulk of the costs — some $84.2 billion — are absorbed by state and local governments.
The annual outlay that illegal aliens cost U.S. taxpayers is an average amount per nativeheaded household of $1,117. The fiscal impact per household varies considerably because the greatest share of the burden falls on state and local taxpayers whose burden depends on the size of the illegal alien population in that locality
Education for the children of illegal aliens constitutes the single largest cost to taxpayers, at an annual price tag of nearly $52 billion. Nearly all of those costs are absorbed by state and local governments.
At the federal level, about one-third of outlays are matched by tax collections from illegal aliens. At the state and local level, an average of less than 5 percent of the public costs associated with illegal immigration is recouped through taxes collected from illegal aliens.
Most illegal aliens do not pay income taxes. Among those who do, much of the revenues collected are refunded to the illegal aliens when they file tax returns. Many are also claiming tax credits resulting in payments from the U.S. Treasury."Full report here:
http://www.fairus.org/site/DocServer/USCostStudy_2010.pdf?docID=4921
Thanks for the info. I was born, raised and educated on the Mexican border. They have been ripping off the "gringos" for decades.
While the monetary costs are huge the real costs come in the human lives that illegals have taken.
A few off the top of my head:
Officer Donnie Young
Martin Kudlis
Patricia GunTharp
Debra Serecky
Yvonne Frye
With the looper as governor I expect more citizens to perish with greater frequency.
hurley842002
11-29-2010, 19:15
Hmmmmm, anybody interested in plastering several thousand copies of these "findings" all over the Metro area, what's the worst that could happen? I'm out a couple cases of paper, lol.
Hand them out at the gun show, once you've gained permission.
hurley842002
11-29-2010, 20:46
Hand them out at the gun show, once you've gained permission.
Not a bad idea, however I doubt the folks attending the gun show, are the types that need a reality check.
I'd like to see the cost of stolen property included in that study.
hurley842002
11-29-2010, 21:01
I'd like to see the cost of stolen property included in that study.
X2, good first post Storm, Welcome to the Forum [Beer]
Aside from backhoes, cars, and trucks.
They'd have to estimate the shoplifting, stealing from other drug dealers, welfare fraud, insurance fraud, social security fraud, using food stamps to buy non-food stamp items, etc.
From the Denver Post of all places. Written today.
http://www.denverpost.com/legislature/ci_16736807
Illegal immigrants cost Colorado taxpayers as much as $1.5 billion a year, put downward pressure on wages and hurt employers that comply with the law.
That, at least, was the view presented today by advocates for stronger immigration laws at a summit held by the Republican Study Committee of Colorado, a group representing the most conservative GOP lawmakers.
The Federal Government has failed us, time for the states to do the job.
Here's a link to the 2008 FAIR report on the costs of illegal immigration to Colorado...
http://www.fairus.org/site/DocServer/coloradocosts.pdf?docID=2381
Its a little more specific but not as up to date as the per-state costs listed in the 2010 national report. I've linked to it here before but it was a while ago.
Also, I wasn't aware of the Republican Summit thing today so that's just a weird coincidence.
gnihcraes
11-29-2010, 22:03
2 illegals wiped out two sections of my fence, and a flag pole. Thankfully they were driving an insured vehicle, but it wasn't theirs. I'm still waiting on their .10 insurance company to make me whole. Currently their offer is about $300 short of what it will take to fix all the damage they did. I'm out my time at home and work dealing with this crap because they are here illegal. (from honduras not mexico)
I find some truth in this costing americans money.
You'd still be out the time and work if I ran over your fence though. Just make sure to submit all your receipts.
patrick0685
11-30-2010, 05:15
You'd still be out the time and work if I ran over your fence though. Just make sure to submit all your receipts.
Stuart you shouldnt run over peoples fences thats not nice
I find some truth in this costing americans money.
I wonder how the looper would feel if we went to his bar and "dined and dashed". [PoPo]
I haven't been in one of his bars for quite a while, don't intend to go anytime soon either.
Some people make money off of illegal scum.
We have a member who probably hires illegals as day laborers, at least that is the way I took it.
We have the loopers wife here writing a book about illegals and how we should feel sorry for them.
http://books.simonandschuster.com/Just-Like-Us/Helen-Thorpe/9781416538936
Yo Helen you stupid bitch, these POS people are nothing like me. They are lying sacks of shit stealing resources from my country. If you feel so bad for them why don't you pay for their needs out of your own pocket instead of allowing them to steal from the state and federal treasuries.
hurley842002
11-30-2010, 09:28
Some people make money off of illegal scum.
We have a member who probably hires illegals as day laborers, at least that is the way I took it.
X2 [Bang]
gnihcraes
11-30-2010, 19:11
What I've recently heard too, is most of the illegals that are working, are nothing but thugs. Causing all kinds of grief for the companies that have hired them. Faking Osha violations, photos of violations that they created to extort money etc out of the companies. It's not going to be good for them if they keep this up, nobody will hire them, its not worth it.
I doubt Stuart would run across the border though if he did run down my fence. :) And his insurance would probably pay up for what is owed because he's buying the good stuff not some nickel and dime crap on the corner next to the check cashing store.
I have the insurance level just above the nickle and dime stuff (but with decent coverage 100/300). ;)
However, when I was a claims adjuster, I worked for a good company that let us take care of people and I would have taken care of you. :)
theGinsue
11-30-2010, 22:32
Ahhhh! Is this a kumbaya/group hug moment?
[Puke]
gnihcraes
12-01-2010, 05:15
Ahhhh! Is this a kumbaya/group hug moment?
[Puke]
Could be... a few rounds down range might make me feel better too.[UZI]
What I've recently heard too, is most of the illegals that are working, are nothing but thugs. Causing all kinds of grief for the companies that have hired them. Faking Osha violations, photos of violations that they created to extort money etc out of the companies. It's not going to be good for them if they keep this up, nobody will hire them, its not worth it.
My TOA had roof work and painting done in last couple of years. 2 different sets of Hispanic workers, I saw a few of them peeking windows and behaving squirrelly when I was in their area. I had my garage open and couple of them walked by, I watched them case my garage taking a mental inventory, one of the fuckers gave me a dirty look when he realized that I was watching him look in my garage.
My fervent hope is that people who hire these bastards suffer greatly.
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