Bad Neighbor of the Year

[CrufflerSteve]

http://www.chemistry-blog.com/2010/12/03/officials-on-house-full-of-explosives-lets-set-it-on-fire/
“Officials say there is no safe way to remove all the explosives from the house, so the best way to neutralize the danger is to burn the house to the ground. They plan to evacuate 200 homes, build temporary fire-safe walls between the house and its neighbors, spray the wall and neighboring houses with fire-retardant foam, pre-heat the house so it ignites quickly, then start a fire.”

The guy must have been a decent chemist since he didn't blow up the neighborhood. I really want to see videos from the burning.

Steve

[Bailey Guns]

Holy crap!

[steveopia]

Holy crap!

X2

Wow.

[Elhuero]

Who knows what else may be in un-searched corners of the house.


so they're just going to burn it down?

sounds like lazy cops being lazy.

we protect and serve! we run toward danger instead of away! we ... wait, this will take how long? gosh, I suddenly feel unsafe. fuck it, burn it down.

I hope this blows up in their faces. <snicker>

[kellie]

That poor gardener. I could see worrying about bugs, thorns, perhaps injuring yourself on sharp gardening tools, or mowing your foot. But how can you possibly expect to get blown up on the job?

Good thing San Diegans are no stranger to evacuations and fire. Just another day in the neighborhood.

[TS12000]

I for one would love the police to destroy that kind of evidence if I was on the hook for all that shit.

[mx'r]

I for one would love the police to destroy that kind of evidence if I was on the hook for all that shit.

Good point. wonder if the po-po thought of that.

[Ridge]

Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake.

[Irving]

How can they accuse him of robbing a bank if he just has the tracker? I bet he'll get off on that one. If I saw one of those pop up on craigslist, I'd buy it and put it into a shadow box and hang it on the wall.

Also, his insurance isn't going to cover any of his stuff.

[KevDen2005]

Well I was curious at just how fast this going to turn into a police bashing thread.


Good job, only a few posts.

[Irving]

Granted I don't know much about explosives, but how is something stable enough to burn, but not carry out?

[KevDen2005]

Granted I don't know much about explosives, but how is something stable enough to burn, but not carry out?


My guess is there is a lot more to this story that hasn't been released.

I am sure they have the evidence that is needed to charge the crimes that they are, usually a District Attorney would be part of that decision making process.

Lets not forget about the super accurate reporting that the news media gives us all

[Elhuero]

Well I was curious at just how fast this going to turn into a police bashing thread.


Good job, only a few posts.


four, to be exact.

sorry Kev, I call em like I see em.

this is too dangerous to move, let's set it on fire! makes no sense to me.

If modern high explosives are inert without detonation, then why can't they be moved?

setting something alight is hardly what you'd call a controlled demolition, and a neighborhood is hardly the place to do it IMO.

now I never majored in EOD with a minor in rucking at big green U so I could be wrong.

I'm sure you're right, there's a lot more to this story that the glorious media is telling. I'll be eagerly awaiting a more in-depth explanation of the authorities plans and the reasoning behind it.

[kellie]

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/dec/03/bomb-suspect-indicted-federal-charges-state-charge/


The home is so cluttered and dangerous that experts have decided it is impossible to safely remove the chemicals and explosives and now intend to burn the house to the ground sometime next week.

It is believed the fire will consume and neutralize the explosives without igniting them. However, in an abundance of caution, a number of homes near the house will be evacuated prior to the fire being set.

I'm certainly no explosives expert, but that sounds pretty scary. I wouldn't want to be the one to clean up the debris once the house has burned to the ground. The article says his house is rented. Forget bad neighbor, the thread title should read "Bad Tenant of the Year."

[Elhuero]

"we expect it to burn, we don't expect it to detonate"

lol famous last words.

[ronaldrwl]

Wow. "what's inside?". "I didn't know." "Let's set it on fire. Yea!"

Sounds like the kind of thinking I would do[NoClue]

[Irving]

I think the safest thing to do is to burn down all the houses around this house in a 1 block radius first. That way you create a decent fire brake. Plus, who knows what kind of dangerous and illegal things are in all those other houses? They haven't even been searched a little bit.

[theGinsue]

I clicked on all of the hot-links of the explosives in the story link and I've gotta say that *I * wouldn't want to be the one to try to move that stuff. Much of it is sensitive to friction and shock. That sounds like a recipe for disaster if it's moved - especially with all of the other explosives around - set one off and the rest could easily go off too.

What do you wanna bet many of the neighboring homes get destroyed in the process of burning this home down?

[reddevil1111]

Some of the recepies for homemade explosives use oxygen sensitive chemicals. Others are so unstable (the homemade PETN) That they are very unsafe to even be carried out from that home 10 to 15 feet.
If your job was to protect and serve for 45k to 60k a year would it be worth it to risk your life for some nutjob's idea of a good time? I would pass and torch it after doing the CSI and removing enough proof to put him away for a while.

[steveopia]

Do they think they know what the garderer stepped on? Did this dude have so much of this junk that he just accidentally dropped some volatile substance out in the yard and didn't notice? An IED? What a bizarre story.

"I've got to make sure I water Mr. Jakubec's dais"
BOOM!!!!
"Ay Dios Mio!!!"

[Elhuero]

If your job was to protect and serve for 45k to 60k a year would it be worth it to risk your life for some nutjob's idea of a good time?

LOL thanks for making my point for me.

[Ridge]

In 1981, MOVE relocated to a row house at 6221 Osage Avenue in the Cobbs Creek area of West Philadelphia. On May 13, 1985, allegedly responding to months of complaints by neighbors that MOVE members broadcast political messages by bullhorn at all hours and also about the health hazards posed by the piles of compost, the police department claimed that they attempted to clear the building. The police lobbed tear gas canisters at the building and the fire department battered the roof of the house with two water cannons. The police fired 10,000 rounds at the house in two hours. A police helicopter then dropped a four-pound bomb made of C-4 plastic explosive and Tovex, a dynamite substitute, onto the roof of the house without any prior warning. The resulting explosion caused the house to catch fire, igniting a massive blaze which eventually destroyed 65 houses. Eleven people, including John Africa, five other adults and five children, died in the resulting fire. The firefighters were stopped from putting out the fire based on allegations that firefighters were being shot at, a claim that was contested by the lone adult survivor Ramona Africa, who says that the firefighters had earlier battered the house with two deluge pumps when there was no fire. Ramona Africa and one child, Birdie Africa, were the only survivors.

[Irving]

Ahh, yes, this does seem kind of like the MOVE thing, but I don't really see evidence of any political motives in this new case.