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RYAN50BMG
01-03-2005, 18:43
Specialty Sports is located in Co. Springs on the SW corner of Drennan and Academy Blvd. This store has it all. They carry all the major gun lines and they carry every model. ( I feel sorry for you guys that have to go to Sportsmans Warehouse.) I was there last week and they had 13 models of the Desert Eagle. Jeff, his wife Kim, and all the guys there are top notch. They most likley have the largest IN STOCK selection of guns in the state. They also stock the complete line of Spyderco, Cold Steel, Benchmade and other knives. They also sell Surefire, ASP, Redgun,and more stuff than I can remember. I just bought the door for my walk-in gun vault from them. The store is open 10-7 Mon thru Sat, and is definitly worth the drive. One thing, They are very busy on Sat. , so if you want to fondle alot of stuff, it's best to go during the week. This store ROCKS!!! Ryan

AlphaAuriga
01-03-2005, 19:36
How are their prices compared to "brick and mortar" places?

While I find Sportsman's Warehouse to have a limited of AR type items, their handgun selection is very good and their prices are really good. While not the cheapest, they are competitive....

KarlPMann
01-03-2005, 20:12
I can second what Ryan said. I go in there frequently. I'm close to buying a new pistol and holster from them to replace my old CCW gun. Prices are MSRP for the most part. Average, not great, not bad. And the owner is very nice to deal with. Friendly, courteous, well mannered, helpful, and very knowledgeable. And the inventory is as good as Ryan said. Good staff too. Definitely the best gun store overall that this state seems to have to offer. Karl.

RYAN50BMG
01-03-2005, 20:36
Thanks Karl, These guys are "brick and mortar", and have very competetive prices. Jeff also takes used guns in trade ( Sig 226 yes, British Webleys no) so you can upgrade. Again, They carry all major gun lines and are IN STOCK. they don't have one or two Glocks, they carry all. Last visit I saw 7-8 Colt SAA's, most Wilson Combat guns ( if you can afford them), an HK MK-23 Socom and others. If you make the trip and are dissapointed, I'll let you beat Karl up. Ryan

eerw
01-03-2005, 23:09
Another nod for Specialty Sports..

One day one of the employees and I counted over 55 different 1911 guns on the shelves..ususally about four or five each of Wilsons, Ed Brown, Les Baer guns too.good representation of Glocks, Sigs, Smith and Wesson,
Rifle and shotgun selection is good too as well as optics and knives.

prices are fair..
also every now and then you can find a really good deal on the used shelf..

kwc1cs
01-07-2005, 21:47
I love Specialty Sports. I purchased my Kimber there after Russell walked me threw just about every 1911 in stock. He spent a total of 2 hrs.(over a period of 3 afternoons) with me talking pros and cons. Very informative and the best customer service I've ever recieved. I have purchased a total of 5 firearms from them, and will do more business in the future. :lol:

XJ
01-07-2005, 22:54
I've never walked out of there unhappy with the prices, or staff.

Unlike some places, you don't have to be an "expert" to be treated politely.

kirbyw
01-08-2005, 08:19
Absolutely the best place I've ever seen for guns, great inventory and very friendly people.
Took my wife there to look at carry pistols, she spent a great deal of time with Kim and we walked out of there with a Lady Smith in .38 Special.
Actually it is very dangerous for us to go there. Too much temptation
Kirby

Hoser
01-08-2005, 08:22
Another positive vote for Specialty. Not only is Jeff and his crew top notch, but they have been a match sponsor to the past two IPSC State Championships down in Pueblo.

And every now and again, they come out and shoot with us.

They have got a lot of $$$ from me over the years and will continue to do so. I can get most firearms cheaper by going through an FFL, but I would rather support a local business.

michael_aos
01-19-2005, 19:14
I live about 1 mile from the store, so it's pretty handy.

I've bought 10 of 11 firearms from them. I bought a Hi-Power 9mm from The Shootin' Den because SS&S didn't have one in stock for a couple months.

SS&S is the best gun store I've ever visited.

I also noticed Jeff & Kim at a Friends of the NRA banquet I attended.

Mike

MADDOG
01-29-2005, 01:10
I agree with the customer service aspect. It can't be beat with a stick, very helpful and top notch staff. Prices have to be watched on the "non" evil black rifle side, but their selection and pistol pricing is great. If you want a typical rifle, bird gun, or reload, go to Sportsmen's (one will be in CS here shortly). Other than that, largest selection, decent pricing, and best customer service of anything I have seen here in CO.

Ryan, do you own a SPAS-12 and drive around in a ugly tan truck for a living?

Colt
01-29-2005, 19:47
I went there & noticed that I had to beg to get anybody to show me a gun, then I was treated rudely & my questions weren't answered as they were too busy talking about somebody's car. I noticed the prices were almost $200 marked up from what I have purchased at other stores for the same firearm. Selection was good, I think I must have gone in a bad moment & looking for items they could not compete with. Next time I'm in the pistol market I'll give them another try. :(

RYAN50BMG
01-30-2005, 09:49
I agree with the customer service aspect. It can't be beat with a stick, very helpful and top notch staff. Prices have to be watched on the "non" evil black rifle side, but their selection and pistol pricing is great. If you want a typical rifle, bird gun, or reload, go to Sportsmen's (one will be in CS here shortly). Other than that, largest selection, decent pricing, and best customer service of anything I have seen here in CO.

Ryan, do you own a SPAS-12 and drive around in a ugly tan truck for a living? Yes, I do own a SPAS-12, but it has only been to the range one time, and I do drive around in a truck for a living, but it is white, not tan. Ryan

MADDOG
02-01-2005, 00:15
I thought so. "Rob Lowe" here!

bbadmin
02-01-2005, 05:50
I always hated the SPAS-12. But now I want one. :shock: Go figure..


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Adam White
02-01-2005, 13:13
I went there & noticed that I had to beg to get anybody to show me a gun, then I was treated rudely & my questions weren't answered as they were too busy talking about somebody's car. I noticed the prices were almost $200 marked up from what I have purchased at other stores for the same firearm. Selection was good, I think I must have gone in a bad moment & looking for items they could not compete with. Next time I'm in the pistol market I'll give them another try. :(

Odd, I have never had such an experience.

Clearly, neither have the other posters here.

I bought two Bushmaster lowers from the store just two weeks ago.

Do you have this experience often?

KarlPMann
02-01-2005, 13:24
I was there last week. They were closing shop just after I got there. Still very polite and attentive. Never even mentioned that I was browsing after hours. As I left, I noticed the sign was turned off and they were preparing to lock up. I think the overall experience there tends to be better than average anyway. I've been comparing prices on the new lightweight S&W J frame revolvers. Their price is about $200.00 under list. Karl.

RYAN50BMG
02-02-2005, 17:16
Hey MADDOG, got an e-mail addy? RYAN50BMG@MSN.COM

Hal8000
03-13-2005, 21:01
I've purchased many firearms from them over the years and have always had a very good shopping/buying experience. I have heard of a few people that had not such a good experience, but I've neither experienced it nor witnessed it. Over all, it's the best gun store I have ever been in and I've been in a few...
The best selection under one roof, outside of a gun show...

vern23
03-16-2005, 13:23
I'll give them a nod. I just recently picked up a Walther p22 and a Savage 7 Mag from them. The Savage was used with scope for $300. They seem to be pretty friendly, and helpful, although I have had to ask for attention when it got close to closing, but no big deal. I'd do business with them again. and again...

coloradojc
04-26-2005, 06:26
I have bought a few used guns from them and was happy with the price. That was around 4 years ago since I bought a gun from them. Have bought some ammo and small things up to around two years ago. I have been back in since but have not bought anything.
For the most part they were very nice. Only had one experience when I tried to get attention to look at something and felt ignored but that was the only time as most times they are right there with may I help you.

The only reason I do not really buy from them anymore is for a couple of reasons.
#1 I just got frustrated when I went to buy something like powder or primers and they were always out of rem 7 1/2's or reloader-15 and now that I shoot n140 and n540 I rather suspect they would not carry it but have not looked so thats a guess.
Found it easier to buy rl-15 and tumbling media and ammo from Walmart as they have never been out of stock for me and the prices were better.
I hate shopping at Wally world but I do not have much to spend and it all counts up if I want to shoot.
#2 I found that I have met more folks that will let me order any gun unless its a 1 of 100 SS seems to have allot of. its cheaper on my budget to buy from the guy charging me $20 to go threw the ffl. That $20 goes to a local guy also.

They have a great selection and good used gun prices and are for the most part very friendly and I will shop if I think I can or need to get it right now if they have it.

RYAN50BMG
07-23-2005, 15:20
Spec. Sports has moved into their new place on the SE corner of Murry and Fountian. It,s HUGE!!! They are still in the process of getting everything put away, but is worth the visit. The reloading component section is much larger now that they have more space, and they are carrying more product lines including the "511" clothing line, MOD knives, most Blackhawk products, and alot of AR uppers and parts will be coming in in the next few weeks. There were at least 20 AR-15's in stock when I was there today. This place has the best gun selection in the state,bar none. Ryan

michael_aos
07-23-2005, 16:13
Is that the old Eckerds?

They used to be 1.6mi from me. Now they're 2.0mi.

:D

Mike

bbadmin
07-25-2005, 06:15
Thanks for the tip on the new location. I didn't know they moved. I would have been really confused driving around looking for them.



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Sunwolf Enemy
08-05-2005, 12:28
The guy who taught my CCW class told an interesting story about Specialty Sports & Supply.

Keep in mind, this is all third-hand info.

Apparently a certain female olympic shooter had moved to Colorado Springs and was taking a CCW class from my instructor. He sent her down to check SS&S for a concealed carry handgun. When she tried to buy it, they wouldn't sell it to her. According to my instructor, they told her she'd have to bring her boyfriend or husband or dad in to buy the gun for her. She argued, pointing out that she was an olympic-class shooter, but they refused to relent.

Anyone else here a female (or know one) with experience with this store? I shop there because it has by far the biggest and best selection of any gun shop I've ever seen, but the story still disturbs me. If I get any confirming stories similar to what my instructor told me, I'll probably stop shopping at Specialty Sports & Supply.

My personal experience is, it's a great shop. An employee named Clay was particularly helpful when I walked in off the street, knowing virtually nothing about firearms. He was patient, thorough, and engaging. I have found their prices to be a bit high though. I ended up buying my Glock 23 w/night sights from L&S distributing on the corner of Platte & Circle for ~$80.00 less than what it would have cost me at SS&S.

michael_aos
08-05-2005, 12:42
I know most of the faces, if not all the names down there. Each definitely has their own personality.

Jeff appears to be the owner. He's always in a hurry.
Kim is very pleasant and always remembers my name. I suspect she's Jeffs wife.

Clay tends to be a little "right wing". Probably watches Fox News a lot and seems pretty up on current-events.

There are 3 other guys, but I never remember their names.

Old guy -- randomly walks around the store. Doesn't really seem to know what's going on. Nice enough...

"Droopy dog" guy. A little mopey. Doesn't like to be rushed. Slow and steady. Always pleasant.

Younger guy -- CCW, flashlight, Leatherman on his belt. Dressed for an IDPA match. Seems to assume everyone is an idiot and treats them as such. Very short responses. Won't volunteer ANYTHING.

I'd decided a few times I simply wasn't going to talk to "younger guy" anymore. Seems like he's the only one who isn't busy most of the time though. Now I just keep my interaction with him to a minimum and dismiss his personality as "that's just the way he is" and not take it personal.

Mike

michael_aos
08-05-2005, 12:50
As far as the prices, you MIGHT be able to do better elsewhere. Honestly, I don't look too hard.

I've been thinking about 3 guns lately:

Kimber Tactical Pro II in 9mm
S&W 357PD (24oz 41 Magnum N-frame)
Marlin 1894 CBC in .38 Special

If they happen to have any of those in-stock when I'm in the store, I'll buy them. I'm not going to scour the Internet and various other local stores looking, in hopes of saving $25.

Mike

Sunwolf Enemy
08-05-2005, 12:54
"Droopy dog" guy. A little mopey. Doesn't like to be rushed. Slow and steady. Always pleasant.

Is this guy fairly tall? Dark hair? Mustache?


Younger guy -- CCW, flashlight, Leatherman on his belt. Dressed for an IDPA match. Seems to assume everyone is an idiot and treats them as such. Very short responses. Won't volunteer ANYTHING.

Stocky, muscular guy? Starting to bald on top? Military look to him?

michael_aos
08-05-2005, 13:37
[quote=michael_aos]

Stocky, muscular guy? Starting to bald on top? Military look to him?

That's Jeff.

michael_aos
08-05-2005, 13:40
"Droopy dog" guy. A little mopey. Doesn't like to be rushed. Slow and steady. Always pleasant.

Is this guy fairly tall? Dark hair? Mustache?



"IDPA" guy is probably ex-LE, or ex-military, or ex-military-LE.

Mike

<MADDOG>
08-11-2005, 22:27
Concur on the "younger guy" remark. One notable "experience" I had with the gentlemen:
I was eyeballing a DSA SA-58 and released, watch out, the bolt from the rear. I then get a snide "Don't do that, that isn't a military weapon"..
I then played ignorant, and got a long BS story. After I listened to the "baffle em with BS instead of brilliance story”, which I believe is the limitations of this salesman, I interjected that I guessed he didn't know his rifles, but I would purchase it anyway. In summary, it wasn't the remark he made, it was the attitude and arrogance. Maybe explains why he is always the one not helping anyone.........
I would rather deal with the older gentlemen, as although he isn't the most knowledgeable, he doesn't act like he is either.
The other salesman (big guy) and Jeff ARE knowledgeable and courteous, and I would encourage new shoppers to seek them out.

roman gnome
08-15-2005, 21:27
The new store is huge!

Those guys must really put on the miles hoof`n around there all day.

I felt lucky walking out just spending $15 bucks.

tyler2you
08-21-2005, 11:44
"IDPA Guy" is Lawrence. I guess he can rub people the wrong way at first brush, but he's always been helpful and knowledgeable on the occasions I've dealt with him. He's boresighted several of my rifles and installed night sights on a couple of pistols. Not as talkative or friendly as Clay, but he knows his stuff. He's either Army Guard or Reserves as I've been told he's out on weekend duty on a couple of occasions when I needed help with an AR project I was working on.

I would have thought more complaints would be about Clay actually. I heard him tell some customer on the phone once that they didn't carry High Point weapons because they wouldn't sell a pot metal bullet container. I thought it was pretty funny, but I'm sure the customer didn't.

They've all got unique personalities, it just takes a while to get used to them.

Kim is definitely super friendly and helpful.

From what I remember, Jeff mentioned they all served in the Army together at one point.

And yes, I spend way too much time and money in that establishment.

colblaster
01-12-2006, 08:24
In terms of female shopping experience, my wife has purchased three guns there and accessories, without me being there.

They were always very courteous and helpful to her.
She dealt with Jeff though.

And I think they knew her after repeated trips with me being in there with her.

I think in terms of price and selection (and service from Jeff/Kim/Clay) the store is top notch. Have dealt with a few salespeople who start trying to sell before they find out who they are selling to. That is frustrating.

I just don't understand how they can carry all that inventory. Firearms aren't the most lucrative business... and they have a lot of value just sitting there.

Colorado Osprey
01-13-2006, 09:11
The staff has always been top notch as far as attitute and knowlege over the last...say 20 years. I remember when it was just Jeff in that 8x10 shack.

I have 2 gripes though:

1st, prices are not "fair"...most are actually over MSRP. When stating this to Jeff his response was "The manufacture's site MSRP was wrong." I don't know personally if this is true for all firearm manufacturer's MSRP pricing on their web sites, but I suspect Jeff just thought he was not making enough mark up at MSRP.

2nd, I always will ask if I can get a discount because over the last 20 years I have purchases 20+ guns from them and kinda expect special treatment. Nodda...ever. Jeff stated, "I never offer discounts unless I have too many of something that I need to get rid of." That in itself I have no problem with, EXCEPT, I know people personally, good friends, best friends, who get a discount EVERY time they buy a firearm there. I guess spending upwards to $15,000, is not enough to warrant "good customer" status.

Synopsis:
If I am looking for something they have a great display of firearms to play with to decide what I want. But, I do not support them by purchasing anything from them anymore.

EDIT: Their used gun prices are fair indicating people getting hosed in trade in value. I have purchased 3 of these over the years too.

I expect Sportsman's Warehouse will be hurting them financially and they will alter pricing or go under. That new building must have a lot more over-head that will cost them...maybe they will be forced to raise prices?

BOXBRONCO
01-13-2006, 17:02
First, I will have to say sorry for agreeing with a post that rather digs on Jeff. This being my first post in this forum, I should tread lightly before exposing my self to the wrath of long time members.

With that said, I too have purchased several firearms from Jeff and his staff over the past 10 or so years. They all are for the most part friendly and knowledgeable; however, I feel that I was lucky in getting a fair price. I have in inquired, into the prices of 50 plus weapons and countless numbers of accessories. I have found that Jeff’s prices to be high if not having the feeling I will have to sell my kid to help finance the product.

I have not made a purchase in quite sometime from them but I do frequent his establishment for no other reason than to be able to touch and feel a particular future purchase that I will making elsewhere. I do give Jeff an "A+" for having a vast assortment of weapons and accessories to choose from, but I am sorry to say he is lacking in the pricing category and only give him a "C-".

michael_aos
01-15-2006, 18:45
I always will ask if I can get a discount because over the last 20 years I have purchases 20+ guns from them and kinda expect special treatment. Nodda...ever. Jeff stated, "I never offer discounts unless I have too many of something that I need to get rid of." That in itself I have no problem with, EXCEPT, I know people personally, good friends, best friends, who get a discount EVERY time they buy a firearm there. I guess spending upwards to $15,000, is not enough to warrant "good customer" status.

EDIT: Their used gun prices are fair indicating people getting hosed in trade in value. I have purchased 3 of these over the years too.

Yep, same experience. Bought lotsa stuff there, and they know me. No discount. Even tried the "if I buy these 3 today, can I get a discount" -- nope. And yes, I know people who get discounts every time.

Yep, totally hosed on trade-ins (won't do that again), and yep -- good deals on used guns.

I happened to be in Salt Lake City over the weekend and noticed a rifle was $100 less at FBMG than at Specialty Sports.

Mike

michael_aos
01-16-2006, 10:24
Some of the new staff is REALLY great. Nothing but good things to say about them.

Despite my previous negativity, I still plan to shop there. I went over to Sportsmans Warehouse. Couldn't tell what they had in-stock, and couldn't get anyone to help me.

I'm toying with a few purchases. I don't think I'll find that 357PD anywhere else, and they have one in-stock for $739. Might even do that today...

I've got that Springfield Micro-Compact .45. Not going to trade it in, but thinking I might replace it with a Kimber Tactical Pro II 9mm, or Colt Lightweight Super Commander.

My next "project gun" is going to be based on a Remington 700 short-action, so I've been watching the used rack. If that doesn't work out, I'm thinking about buying a new 700 SPS or 700P LTR.

They're close. They have a great selection. The new staff is great. It's worth it to me to pay a little more to preserve that.

Mike

Recon
01-27-2006, 10:28
Younger guy -- CCW, flashlight, Leatherman on his belt. Dressed for an IDPA match. Seems to assume everyone is an idiot and treats them as such. Very short responses. Won't volunteer ANYTHING.

I'd decided a few times I simply wasn't going to talk to "younger guy" anymore. Seems like he's the only one who isn't busy most of the time though. Now I just keep my interaction with him to a minimum and dismiss his personality as "that's just the way he is" and not take it personal.

Mike

+1.

Some weapons people can be like some horse people: They are up here, you are down there, and never the twain shall meet. :roll: There is a world of difference between being knowledgeable about your trade, and being a good businessman in your trade.

I have to tip my hat though, to any weapons brick and mortar that can maintain that kind of inventory these days. Unfortunately, they have never had what I was looking for (BUIS, M193, TA31F, etc.) and the young man never volunteered to do anything to help me get it, or to suggest any alternatives. Thus, I come here and to AR15.com for my education.

rtr
02-13-2006, 17:23
Anyone been there lately?

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=20&t=223388

Anyone know what the deal is?

michael_aos
02-13-2006, 17:36
They moved over to Murray and Fountain.

I was just there this morning, in fact.

Mike

rtr
02-13-2006, 17:54
Sorry I misunderstood his post. He said "the new place is empty". I thought he was talking about the "new" place at murray and fountain, the old location wasn't exactly "new".

KarlPMann
06-06-2006, 19:00
I just heard the same thing from a friend. He said the new place too. :cry: I'm going by tomorrow to check. Karl.

michael_aos
06-06-2006, 19:03
I live a couple blocks from their store. They're alive and well.

Mike

KarlPMann
06-06-2006, 19:15
:twisted: I hope so, been there in the past week? I was there two weeks ago for ammo. He was sure it was the "new store". I'm still gonna drive by and look for myself. Karl.

michael_aos
06-06-2006, 19:44
been there in the past week?

Yes, I was in there on 5/29.

Mike

eerw
06-06-2006, 19:58
Was in there last week looking at the Tactical Solution uppers in the .22 case.....all seemed fine...lot of stuff on the walls and in the cases..

Hoser
06-06-2006, 20:14
If only those boneheads would put up a friggin sign.

michael_aos
06-06-2006, 20:15
If only those boneheads would put up a friggin sign.

Ah, OK, maybe that's what's confusing people.

I wasn't "getting it".

Mike

Rickyj
06-06-2006, 22:10
I love the store because it is big and has lots of stuff, but that's about it.

The guys there are very "knowledgeable" in that they are always quick to give a definite answer. Unfortunately the answer is not always correct IMHO. I have bought a few guns from them - but I can't bring myself to shop there anymore. Their prices are often absurd (i.e. they could order it from Cabela's with no discount, put it on their shelves and still make a profit) which would be okay if they really knew their stuff. If they don't have it - "it isn't made". If they don't know what they are talking about - "you don't know what you are talking about". I understand (having been on the dealer side of the table) that a lot of gun buyers are "know it all types that don't" but some of the stuff is just out of line on their part. If you don't know the answer say it - I wince at the thought of some of the "knowledge" they are passing onto people new to the gun world who don't check it out.

I asked if they had a Galco SOB holster for a Glock 29 and was met with an instant "they don't make one for the 29, SOB holsters are bad anyway here's a good one.....". They do.

I overhear them telling people that while it is illegal to carry a gun in your car in Colorado, its okay because the police never check. -

(3) (a) a person who may lawfully possess a handgun may carry a handgun under the following circumstances without obtaining a permit and the handgun shall not be considered concealed:

(I) the handgun is in the possession of a person who is in a private automobile or in some other private means of conveyance and who carries the handgun for a legal use, including self-defense.

Ask if the gun is DAO or DA/SA - "its semi automatic, and machine guns are illegal to own" - :roll:


That stuff is okay at Walmart - but I have a hard time dealing with the arrogance, lack of knowledge, high prices combo. Ehh.

KarlPMann
06-21-2006, 22:33
Oh, I drove by, all is well. My retard friend saw a for sale sign up and ASSUMED they went out of business. The sign is just the building owners still trying to sell the building. :roll: Karl.

Colorado Osprey
06-22-2006, 05:21
This week I needed some AR-15 take down detent pin so I decided to give them a call as they supposedly stock small loose parts for AR's.

They were "sold out" of most small loose parts. I asked if they had a detent and was informed that I needed to purchase a DPMS blister pack called an Ultimate Repair Kit which was just about a complete lower parts kit minus trigger and pistol grip all for only $50....oh yeah, they said it only came with one detent and spring....I was looking for 4. $200 for 4 detents and more spare parts that I already have....I don't think so.......I got them off the internet for $0.75 for 4 adetents and ended up spending another $50 on other goodies.

aedavis
06-22-2006, 11:43
I've been in and out of Specialty quite a few times and it has been hit and miss WRT customer service. The most recent time (the time I swore off going back) I had a recoil spring I wanted to replace. This is for an unusual pistol so I asked if they could order it. Answer - NO. I then asked if they would field strip a Sig P226 and let me see if the spring is the same. They wouldn't give me the time of day after that and the counter guy made a point of ignoring me and helping the gang banger wannabees instead of answering my question.

I realize that I wasn't making them any money on this visitl, but would it have been so hard to let me compare springs? I've spent a lot of money there on reloading components over the years (which should buy me some courtesy) but I'm done shopping there.

Just my worthless opinion,

Allan

<MADDOG>
06-22-2006, 21:28
Hmpf.....

I think we have a trend here.

shrapmetal
06-25-2006, 21:38
i have bought around 15-20 guns from them and get great service. the last two i have special ordered with no deposit or any hassels. the one i should be picking up on tuesday was from a company that they didn't deal with yet. they went through the trouble of setting up an account just to get that gun for me.

think about how many people go in there and want to see 30 guns but have no money to buy. i think i might get jaded too. the last time i was in a guy asked to see a HK with a $11,000 price tag. i don't think you should be looking at a gun at that price if you don't even know what it is. they still went through the trouble of showing this to the guy an explaining to him why it was worth so much. they might have been a little short with him because it was quite clear he was not buying it.

they may not be the cheapest game in town but they are worth it. Jeff is the reason that i found this site. he introduced me to Ryan as he thought we might have some common shooting interests. when i bought my wetherby SSC he gave me 4 free rounds of clays to try the sport out.

i will say the service gets a little better the more you get to know them.

Rickyj
07-12-2006, 19:03
Well I FINALLY learned my lesson with these guys. My last visit was literally my last. Too bad to see a private gun store that offers more variety than you can see anywhere else going down the toilet because of a few bad employees, but.......

I went in to buy a scope for my JLD PTR 91. I was planning on a Leupold MRT illuminated 3-9. ~$1000, although I was looking at a few. I brought in my rifle to make sure that there were no issues with charging handle clearance, as when fully back the lever sticks up and is close to the front of the reciever.

I am looking at scopes and the blond heavierset woman is helping me, regular "scopes" guy (brown hair skinnier) comes over and looks at my rifle then says "that rifle isn't accurate enough for a scope anyways". I let it slide as it isn't a sniper rifle although it is pretty close to MOA, and it was pretty insulting to say that to someone about to drop a grand on a scope. Well his next comment after I was looking at other scopes (unsolicited) was to hold up the MRT scope I was looking at and say "this would be a super cool choice" in a condescending sarcastic tone like he was talking to a kid picking out a bike because it was metallic blue or had a horn. So I pick up my rifle (that is sitting in a ~$80 case that I purchased from THEM and has ONLY shot ammunition that I purchased from THEM probably a few $100 worth) and walk out.

I called the store and talked to Jeff explaining what happened after I had relaxed a little, as I was pretty fuming when I left. To his credit he spent probably 10 minutes talking to me and asking what would make it better, what my experiences with that particular guy had been before.

But the fact that it happened is completely absurd. All together with guns, cases, scopes and accessories, I would guess that I have spent an easy $5,000 there. Granted that is not as much as some people they deal with, but you would think that they could afford some courtesy to all customers, let alone people that have spent enough in their store to buy a used car.

/rant off. :cool:

ETA - If Jeff turned you on to this site I hope that he reads these reviews, as they are not all gleaming and they involve the same few guys IMHO. Get rid of them and you would probably get a few more customers.

shrapmetal
07-12-2006, 19:42
i'm going to stop in in the next few days. when i do i'll bring my lap top and give him the chance to read all of this thread.

RYAN50BMG
07-12-2006, 21:07
I have already given Jeff one of our High speed, Low drag business cards and told him he should REALLY check us out, but I don't think he has had the chance. I hate to see anyone have a bad experience because it such a great place with a selection that is second to none. The next time I am in there, which will be soon I'm sure, I will impress upon him again that he REALLY, REALLY needs to check us out. Ryan

Rickyj
07-12-2006, 22:15
When I really think about it I realize that my thoughts about the store are like a roller coaster. I bought my first "bigger than a .22 rifle" from them, my first handgun, etc. I remember when I first got into guns what a cool experience it was to go into the store and just see all of the guns sitting there. Walking between the safes there to the back with rifles going out on both sides, handguns in the counters to the left, knives to the right. I loved that store. They had AR rifles!!! That was so cool, I remember going in there when I was ready to buy my first AR (the single most exciting gun purchase I ever made. :mrgreen: Damn near makes me giggle when I think about how excited I was when I brought it home.) and Kim was so helpful even though I let her know I was just looking until I had enough money. Telling me about the difference between A2 and flattops, etc. I was still in shock that you could buy a rifle that looked that cool LOL. I bought my first G29 from them, and they were the only people in CO who had it AFAIK. Holsters, night sights - everything that nobody else had THEY DID!

I have had so many good experiences there that I have kept going back. But every 3rd visit or so lately I get so irritated that I swear off going back. Sometimes I feel like I am trespassing in there the way that they treat me. Personally I have never asked for a discount or a freebie or anything - I want to see private gunstores continue because 1) they have cooler stuff and 2) they are fundamental to keeping "black guns" on the market IMHO. Walmart doesn't sell them and when Sportsmans Warehouse gets bigger they probably won't either.

All I want is to be treated like a customer (go figure). Maybe I have been spoiled by Timberline out here but a private gun store should be someplace you can go and feel welcome - like a club or something. Maybe that is stupid but when I walk into Timberline they know my name, we talk about guns (right now it is the FS 2000 that I am pestering them about :P ) and even though I don't buy a gun every time they don't make me feel like a thief or an idiot. If I ask them a question they don't know the answer to they say so. And I know their prices are higher than I could get online but I don't care - I want that "legacy" to continue. They take the time to break down the guns (even if I say I don't want to buy it - sometimes even if I am not interested :mrgreen: ) and show me simply because they like guns. I love that! They don't have as much as SS, but if I want it they will order it.

If Jeff does read this I don't know what I would say to him really. It is possible that his store is just so big that it can't have that feeling, I don't know. I do know that when I was going to school in Boulder that I would tell my gun friends up there about the store, and how cool it was - like it was an urban legend or something. They would never believe me that there was a store like that. :mrgreen: Personally I would really hate to see the store go out of business, but unless my experiences have been unique I don't see how it won't happen totally or in some fashion - i.e. moving to a smaller store. I have had a lot of good experiences there - but the bad SO far outshadows it at times that I can't do it anymore. In a few months my little brother is going to turn 18 and I want to take him gun shopping - giving him the money to buy a rifle of his choosing as his gift. But I can't do that at SS - because there is a good potential that while he is looking one of the staff assholes (definitely NOT everyone there, but two for sure IMO) will tear him down because he thinks he is ubertactical or some nonsense. And that ability, that place where you can go and look at things and ask stupid questions and not be made to feel anything but welcome is the ONLY reason to pay higher prices.

I don't know really. I guess I have an "emotional attachment" of sorts to the store so I care for it in a way. But the bad sticks more than the good.

robsterclaw
07-12-2006, 22:24
When I took my wife in there before Father's day to show her the things I was interested in, I had both experiences. There was a dark haired younger guy in the rifle section that was happy to show me some rifles. Told me he could put the rail on the storm I was looking at, and said they sell the red dot scopes I would want if I got that gun.

Then I was looking at the pistols and after waiting 10 minutes to see the HK .45 compact, we left. Not really mad or even upset, just a huh? type thing.

I don't care how many looky lou's they have come in there. If their job is to be a customer rep, then they need to treat everyone like they have 20 grand in their pocket and are ready to spend. Because all it takes in one rude azz comment to me, and I'd never go back, and tell everyone I know. Same as with most people. Sounds like smart azz brown hair skinny guy needs to find himself a new job.

michael_aos
07-13-2006, 06:59
I've been watching for a nice lever-action in 38 Special over there for a year or 2. They just never have what I want.

Finally found one on GunBroker and bought it it last night.

I'm going to swing by Specialty and see if they will handle the transfer for me.

Mike

gotgun
12-27-2006, 20:47
My wife went there to get a Chrony for my Christmas present. The salesman did not even know what a chronograph is. Wife ended up having to deal with a manager. He was a jerk! :!:
Originally I was glad to have a store with a large shooting dept., but not if their service does not improve. IMHO.

Atrain
12-27-2006, 21:42
Went there the other day to get a few things. I guess I had forgotten how high their prices were. $6 for a 20rd pack of Wolf, $60 for a $30 rifle bag. Give me a break. Nice selection of stuff there but their prices are rediculous. I guess it will remain the place to fondle a wide variety of firearms before you spend your hard-earned dollars somewhere else.

car-15
12-27-2006, 22:31
Went there the other day to get a few things. I guess I had forgotten how high their prices were. $6 for a 20rd pack of Wolf, $60 for a $30 rifle bag. Give me a break. Nice selection of stuff there but their prices are rediculous. I guess it will remain the place to fondle a wide variety of firearms before you spend your hard-earned dollars somewhere else.

thats what I do there, handle it make sure I really want it, and then go get it elswhere, and usually at a large savings.

michael_aos
12-27-2006, 22:37
thats what I do there, handle it make sure I really want it, and then go get it elswhere, and usually at a large savings.

I guess I figure there won't be any place to handle what I want, if nobody buys stuff there.

I really try to buy there, if they have exactly what I want.

I was in a hurry when I bought my Remington 700 Titanium in 260 Remington. They ordered it in from their distributor and I was charged an additional $100 over the 270 Winchester sitting on the shelf.

They both have the same retail price.

:evil:

Mike

Atrain
12-28-2006, 00:24
I guess I figure there won't be any place to handle what I want, if nobody buys stuff there.

You know, if they were 10 or 20 bucks over the market rate for firearms, and cared about their customers, I might actually subscribe to that line of thought. But I don't know many people willing to fork out $100+ over market for a rifle, or double the cost of ammo and accessories, and get treated like a tool. If they go out of business, it will be their own fault.

You can treat your customers like kings and charge a little more, or treat them like crap and charge way less, but you can't treat them like crap and charge more.

robsterclaw
12-28-2006, 00:28
Wifey went there to get my electronic ear protecters, and other goodies for Christmas. The person she asked about the kind of headphones that let you hear normal conversation then block the guns bang (she's still learning) and use batteries, didn't know what she was talking about. And then when he showed her where some hearing protecters were he looked at one and said "huh neat" :roll:

car-15
12-28-2006, 07:28
I guess I figure there won't be any place to handle what I want, if nobody buys stuff there.

You know, if they were 10 or 20 bucks over the market rate for firearms, and cared about their customers, I might actually subscribe to that line of thought. But I don't know many people willing to fork out $100+ over market for a rifle, or double the cost of ammo and accessories, and get treated like a tool. If they go out of business, it will be their own fault.

You can treat your customers like kings and charge a little more, or treat them like crap and charge way less, but you can't treat them like crap and charge more.

amen, could not say it any better myself :cool:

michael_aos
12-28-2006, 09:00
Does anyone have an actual example of where you've found a firearm for less elsewhere?

Make, model. Where you found it. What the difference in price was?

For example, the Tikka T3 Super Varmint, in .223, has a list price of $1425.

Impact Guns, on the web, lists one in-stock for $1147.99.

The Beretta website says the weight is 6.1lbs.

I ran over to Specialty and checked one out. I want to say it was $1250.

Since they had it in-stock, I was able to discover the actual weight is far greater than the 6.1lbs listed on the website.

I didn't ultimately make the purchase, but for the ~$40 difference (when you factor in shipping and transfer fees), I think it's worth it to be able to examine the gun first and walk out the door the same day.

Sales tax is a consideration, as that definitely pushes the decision in the direction of someplace out-of-state, but that's hard to hold against Specialty.

I'll admit I didn't look for this one elsewhere locally, but my experience has lead me to believe nobody else would have carried it.

Mike

michael_aos
12-28-2006, 09:16
I think my previous purchase over at Specialty was a S&W Model 64.

Retail is $632. I think I paid $399. I'd have to find my receipt. Ozark Guns (website) lists one for $450.

Before that, it was a S&W Model 67. Retail is $687, I paid $579. That same Ozark Guns site lists it for $490.

I paid $739.99 for a S&W Model 357PD. Retail is $1067. Again at Ozark Guns, $724.

Mike

Colorado Osprey
12-28-2006, 09:29
Example 1
Circa 1990
I was looking for a small .380 and the gun mags had just reviewed a newcomer ... the Bersa Thunder.
Retail in the magazine was $190

I went down there and there price was $325

I stated that the magzine that was just released listed the MSRP at under $200 and they said it was a mistake.

I looked on Bersa's web site...yep MSRP $190

Looked online at a few websites like Davidsons and sure enough they were selling them for $175.

Example 2
Circa 1994
I was looking for a 12 ga 3" auto shotgun for my wife.
I own a couple of Remy 11-87's but I was leaving town to go duck hunting, so I though, what the hech, I'll pisk up one in an SP for my wife.
Didn't look at teh price, just paid for it and went hunting.

After getting home I was putting it away and I looked at my reciept. I paid $850 for this shotgun. Last year my Premier was only $597 at Jumbo Sports.
So I looked up MSRP and the Premier was $799 and the SPS was $699
Looked up again what they were selling for on Davidsons....wham!
Permier $625 and SPS $525.

That's over $300 mark-up

Example 3
I was looking for a H&R Ulta rifle MSRP $250
They didn't have one and would order one for me for $350
Went to the "Gun Vault" and had them order it for $215

Example 4
I was looking for a medium barrel .308 and had settled on a Winchester Coyote...rare in .308
I went in and they would again have to order it for $750
yep over again......MSRP $725
I went to Dicks's and picked up the rifle for $605

Example 5
I was looking for a Heavy barrel 300 Win mag
Decided on a Remington Sendero
They had them in stock at $750
Yep over again....MSRP $699
Went to Long's drugs on Austin Bluffs and bought it for $599

Example 6
I has looking at O/U shotguns by Baikal
They had them in stock for $550
MSRP...yep again...$499
Went to Longs Drugs on 31st Street and got it for $399

You know I can go on and on.....I collect firearms...I know going prices..they are over priced.

These are not the only ones...and I have my friends examples too.

7idl
12-28-2006, 09:42
Example 1
Circa 1990
I was looking for a small .380 and the gun mags had just reviewed a newcomer ... the Bersa Thunder.
Retail in the magazine was $190

I went down there and there price was $325

I stated that the magzine that was just released listed the MSRP at under $200 and they said it was a mistake.

I looked on Bersa's web site...yep MSRP $190

Looked online at a few websites like Davidsons and sure enough they were selling them for $175.
...

am I to understand that back in 1990 you were on the internet and bersa had a website back then????

Hoser
12-28-2006, 11:06
am I to understand that back in 1990 you were on the internet and bersa had a website back then????

Al Gore was a thinking man, even back then...

michael_aos
12-28-2006, 11:53
am I to understand that back in 1990 you were on the internet and bersa had a website back then????

Technically, HTML and the first web-browser were invented in 1990.

I started using NCSA Mosaic v1.0 in 1993 on a Slackware Linux box running a pre-1.0 kernel (I want to say .93).

And I thought I was ahead of the curve...

Mike

Colorado Osprey
12-28-2006, 12:15
1990's....sorry...not 1990

Lets say it was yesterday....MSRP has gone up to $275...still it is overpriced.

Do I really need to look up my receipt to get an exact date?

I was trying to make a point that thay were and still are overpriced.

I have stated before that their used firearms are priced well though....which means somebody got taken on their trade-in as well.

Colorado Osprey
12-28-2006, 12:23
I think my previous purchase over at Specialty was a S&W Model 64.

Retail is $632. I think I paid $399. I'd have to find my receipt. Ozark Guns (website) lists one for $450.

Before that, it was a S&W Model 67. Retail is $687, I paid $579. That same Ozark Guns site lists it for $490.

I paid $739.99 for a S&W Model 357PD. Retail is $1067. Again at Ozark Guns, $724.

Mike

I agree they are priced well on S&W...and most Ruger handguns as well. Colt, Kimber, Sig and Glock are all high or MSRP though.
Taurus is below MSRP but above average retail.

michael_aos
12-28-2006, 12:24
I was trying to make a point that thay were and still are overpriced.

I have stated before that their used firearms are priced well though....which means somebody got taken on their trade-in as well.

I agree their used prices are good, and I traded-in a revolver there once and felt I got "taken". Agree there too.

I used to visit other local gunstores, and call all over the place for items I wanted. They never seemed to have anything in stock. One time I found a Hi-Power 9mm over at the Shootin' Den. It was more-expensive than Specialty, but Specialty didn't have them in-stock.

I usually poke around on the web, do some research and check prices via Google before I head over there.

I'm never pleasantly surprised to find that Specialty is LOWER than anybody else, but they're always close enough that it's worthwhile to just buy from them. Rather than hassle with ordering from somewhere, paying shipping, transfer fees, and never really know what you're going to wind up with.

It's also handy for me, in that I live within walking distance...

:mrgreen:

Mike

shrapmetal
12-28-2006, 14:01
i still have to say i love specitaly sports. they may not be the cheapest game in town, but they always treat me great. they specail order me almost anything just for asking. they hands down have the best selection. stuff they have ordered for me has allways been below MSRP. they greet me by name every time i enter the store.

my last experiance i did a transfer on a 1919A6 thru them. honestly i have no idea how to set up or head space one of these. lawrence walked me thru the whole process and said if i had any problems with it that he would meet up with me at a range and help me get it running.

when i bought my Weatherby SSC they gave me 4 free rounds of clays to try it out.

they have mounted parts for me that i didn't even buy from them, because they didn't stock them, free of charge no questions asked.

they have actually talked me out of buying higher priced items when they felt another gun would do a better job ata better price. they have done this about 5 times so far saving me well over $1000.

i am willing to pay a little more for the product when the service shines, and as far as i am concerned the are the only gun store in town.

i still go to places like sportsmans warehouse but everyone i deal with is as knowlageable as the guy sweeping the floor at walmart.

i am covered with tattoos and am judged almost everywhere i go. i understand why and i am ok with it. Specitaly is the one place that doesn't seem care and doesn't treat me like a criminal just another customer.

car-15
12-28-2006, 18:04
my ps-90 was $1,899.00 there got it at arctic here in pueblo for $1,635.00
my sons walther p-22 there $269.00 arctic $200.00 my romanian ak $369.00 there $289.00 arctic my fn 5.7 around $900.00 there 779.00 arctic. my .500 s&w was over a $100. cheaper down here, I can not remember the exact price's though, I just remember being happy i saved over a hundred bucks. those are just what i can remember im sure there are more. also all prices are rounded off, if I need to pull reciepts for more examples i'm sure I can dig some up. :cool:

michael_aos
12-28-2006, 18:18
my ps-90 was $1,899.00 there got it at arctic here in pueblo for $1,635.00
my sons walther p-22 there $269.00 arctic $200.00 my romanian ak $369.00 there $289.00 arctic my fn 5.7 around $900.00 there 779.00 arctic. my .500 s&w was over a $100. cheaper down here, I can not remember the exact price's though, I just remember being happy i saved over a hundred bucks. those are just what i can remember im sure there are more. also all prices are rounded off, if I need to pull reciepts for more examples i'm sure I can dig some up. :cool:

That's actually funny or ironic or something.

I was going to mention Arctic. I've purchased a grand total of 1 firearm from them. I special-ordered it and paid 75% up-front.

They charged me retail, plus some for good measure.

I'm in the market for some cheap 308 ammo, and I was thinking Arctic might have some, but I'm not planning to do business with them again.

Mike

car-15
12-28-2006, 18:20
thats strange ive never heard of anyone having a bad experience with them. but I have found sportsmans warhouse has been cheaper than them latley on a few things.

<MADDOG>
12-28-2006, 19:56
Winchester Stealth II - .308, 2 years ago

SS-$799 + tax = $854.00

Gunbroker -$650 + ship ($20) + transfer ($20) = $690.00

michael_aos
12-28-2006, 20:00
Winchester Stealth II - .308, 2 years ago

SS-$799 + tax = $854.00

Gunbroker -$650 + ship ($20) + transfer ($20) = $690.00

I'm not sure it's really valid to compare the local taxed price -vs- out-of-state untaxed price.

But you're still ahead ~$100, comparing apples to apples.

I bought 2 1866's off of GunBroker this summer. Turned out great.

I'd been looking on-and-off locally for probably 2yrs and never saw a single one.

Mike

<MADDOG>
12-28-2006, 20:01
Money is money! :P

robsterclaw
01-06-2007, 01:22
I got a call tonight from the guy at Sigarms who is in charge of the contest I won the gun from. He called Specialty Sports today to make sure they wouldn't have a problem doing the transfer for the gun I won.

He said when he called there, a pleasant young man answered, and said it should be no problem, but had to talk to the owner. Sigarms guy said Craig came to the phone and in response to how are you today, I'm Paul from Sigarms, Craig said NO. Not no to the transfer, but just NO to how are you today. Paul from Sigarms told me he was not very nice, seemed particularly grouchy, but did say fine, he'll do the transfer.
Does anyone know if he's the owner, and is he really a grouchass, or just having a bad day? I do know in business, it's generally not a good idea to be rude to your venders, because they won't include you in promo's or freebies, or even getting you hard to find items to sell.

robsterclaw
01-06-2007, 01:44
Ok, just reread this whole thread. So Jeff owns the place, so Craig must be one of the managers?? Or Paul From Sig got the name wrong. Either way, the younger sounding man was very cool to Paul, and the older man (Craig) was a grouchass. Either way, the selection is very good although pricey. I like going there to shop. That's why I was happy Paul said Specialty Sports was on the list of their dealers they can send the gun to.

Hoser
01-06-2007, 05:20
Jeff and Chris own the place.

Dont know Craig.

barettbomber
01-14-2007, 14:52
Car-15 ~ isn't Artic a pawn shop, I would HOPE your guns were cheaper if someone else has already used it , beat the crap out of it, oh and last a few intrigual springs, which I am pretty sure you'll be needing a place like specialty sports to fix.

Robsterclaw ~ SO you are receiving a gun for FREE, did you ever ask Specialty Sports to handle the transfer for you, or were they called by Sigarms out of the blue probably while there was a line of real customers AND 5 others patiently waiting for their background checks to go through? If I was a gunshop dealer I wouldn't even do a transfer for anyone, it takes up a lot of time, and liabilty for NOTHING. Besides I know for a fact NO one named Craig works there or has in the past. You might start praying that the SIGARMS rep got the address and other information better before they send it off to no mans land.

I personally feel lucky to have such an amazing store located within 100 miles of me. Although my hand might not be held everytime I go into that shop (because there are 6 employees and 50 customers), and thousands of gun to look at, when I need help and I can PRY the salesman away from someone talking about their last purchase IN 1979. (I can;t believe the crap they nicely listen to some people talk about.) I always get the best information and help. If I am weighing two different guns, they always can tell me the pros and cons, and I have always been happy with my purchases!

Long story, but it makes me mad to see people complaining about such a great group of people!

car-15
01-14-2007, 16:28
for your info all my purchases were new, they have not been a pawn shop since their move 4-5 years ago. if you would like to start a personal problem im me, I will be more than happy to take you up on your offer, btw nice first post, attacking 2 members in a dealer review forum. no business can make everyone happy, if they pay their bills and have money left over to live they are making enough of them happy to be successful, good for them.

Colorado Osprey
01-14-2007, 17:58
Sound like a troll?

Barretbomber, are you an employee or the employer?
We don't mind having you here...just anounce yourself.

If I'm wrong,
By all means everyone is entitled to their opinion and we value yours as much as anyones.

But.....it is bad ettiquette to have your 1st post trying to slam someone... on any forum board.

michael_aos
01-14-2007, 18:10
I'm in the market for a Model 640 and either a M&P 340CT or Model 642CT.

I plan to check Specialty first.

Mike

barettbomber
01-14-2007, 19:32
Nope neither an employee or anyone associated with the business. In fact, since I leave closer to Denver than Colorado Springs, I have a lot of choices where to shop. But I did overhear in the store (customer) the otherday someone mentioning this forum. Thought I would check it out for myself, and I was surprised by the postings. I just thought I would add my experiences that's all.

Obiwan
01-14-2007, 21:43
I haven't shopped there regularly for a while...

I like Jensens prices and SS selection

They stock a LOT of guns...and have stuff that is hard to find elsewhere....there is a cost associated with that.

Jeff is a great guy..in fact I never had bad service there from anyone...a couple guys had opinions that I didn't think much of...but I wasn't paying for their opinion

Some of their items are "overpriced"...at least in my opinion...others are not

I bought a rifle there that I could not find anywhere else for a better price than I have seen since

Their Glocks were always priced at/around market price

I also got some great used deals there ...but I don't subscribe to the

"which means somebody got taken on their trade-in as well"

Anyone can sell a pistol for anything they want...it is worth exactly what someone will pay for it...just like cars you can almost always sell a gun for a little more yourself

Used guns are not some kind of charity where the shop doesn't need to make money

Why is it everyone wants a "great deal" when buying but never wants to sell "cheap" :?:

I think the negative feedback here is pretty weak...more like sour grapes than actual problems...but what do I know

It is worth checking them out (IMO)....then make up your own mind

robsterclaw
01-16-2007, 00:38
Robsterclaw ~ SO you are receiving a gun for FREE, did you ever ask Specialty Sports to handle the transfer for you, or were they called by Sigarms out of the blue probably while there was a line of real customers AND 5 others patiently waiting for their background checks to go through? If I was a gunshop dealer I wouldn't even do a transfer for anyone, it takes up a lot of time, and liabilty for NOTHING. Besides I know for a fact NO one named Craig works there or has in the past. You might start praying that the SIGARMS rep got the address and other information better before they send it off to no mans land.


I didn't get the chance to talk with them at Specialty Sports. Paul (Sigarms rep) told me I won their Dec. contest and asked where I get my transfers done. I gave him the name of my guy, and he said sorry he's not on the list. They send their winners the guns through a SIGARMS dealer. My very next suggestion was Specialty because I SHOP there. He called them on his other line WHILE ON THE PHONE with me. No answer. So he told me he'd call them back later in the day. He called me that night and told me they said fine, they can do it. Then he told me about the nice younger sounding guy and the grouchass.

1st bone of contention with you. SIGARMS calls their customers out of the blue from time to time as a sales call, so it's not unusual for them to call. And there's no "probably" a line of people there at the time unless you were there and know for a fact. He could have just said, hey Paul I have a line of people, can you call back later? I've been in there before in the middle of the day quite a few times and sometimes they've been very busy, and sometimes only 1 or 2 customers. Either way a little common courtesy never hurts when dealing with a customer or a vendor.

2nd bone, Gundealers don't do it out of the goodness of their hearts for NOTHING. They charge $25-$50, in my experience. Not bad money for a 5 or 10 minute phone call with the sender, 5-10 minutes to send a copy of their FFL (Oh wait....they are a customer of SIGARMS, so they already have their FFL on file) scratch that 10 minutes off the list. And then ??? maybe 15-20 minutes to make the phone call to check me out, and fill out the paperwork, and hand me the gun. So $25-$50 for probably far less then an hours work. And I plan on buying ammo and 2 extra magazines. WHOOP, there's a small little sale on top of the transfer fee I expect to pay. Also enlighten me on what their liability is in this?

3rd bone, so Paul remembered the guy's name wrong. So that equates to him being an incompetant idiot going to send my gun into no man's land? He's obviously a busy man since he was heading off to the SHOT show on top of dealing with their contest winner, and who knows what else going on in his life. Sig has been so busy they haven't (at least as of last Friday) gotten their January contest up and running yet. And guess what? He was nice and friendly with me. The whole point I posted was 1 S.S. guy was nice and friendly, and another was a grouchass.

It makes you mad to listen to people complain about such a great group of people. I never impuned what the guy is like personally. Maybe he is a great guy, but when he's rude and grouchy to someone, people will complain. You don't like it, and since you seem to know them all so well, you can find out which guy was grouchy and mention that you don't like to hear people complain about him so maybe, he might want to not be rude and grouchy to people.

I like Specialty Sports. I like the young guy who showed me rifles right before Christmas. I didn't care for being ignored when we then walked acrossed the store and I was showing which handguns I'd like to my wife. I've recommended them to people and I know for a fact my dentist went there and bought an ak47, and some extra mags on my recommendation.
So since I'm a customer, I'll recommend them if I wish, and I'll complain about them if I wish. They have to earn my complaints. So when Paul from Sig, tells me about his phone call with them, I'll surely post it if I believe it. Like I said, if you don't like it, feel free to mention it. I'd be more then happy to never hear or read about them being grouchy or ignoring customers again.

shrapmetal
01-17-2007, 12:02
i think one of the people he talked to was chris. i was in there the next day asking about the sig556 and chris said he had talked to sig the day before. chris and i have long conversations about random things and i think it's his tone of voice that throws people off. he always sounds "grouchy" even when he is smiling. don't take that personal it's just the way his voice sounds. he has even gone so far to invite me shooting in his "grouchy" tone. i'm preety sure he was being friendly when that happened. as far as him being the one on the phone it is just my guess because of the time frame.

robsterclaw
01-17-2007, 22:53
i think one of the people he talked to was chris. i was in there the next day asking about the sig556 and chris said he had talked to sig the day before. chris and i have long conversations about random things and i think it's his tone of voice that throws people off. he always sounds "grouchy" even when he is smiling. don't take that personal it's just the way his voice sounds. he has even gone so far to invite me shooting in his "grouchy" tone. i'm preety sure he was being friendly when that happened. as far as him being the one on the phone it is just my guess because of the time frame.
Chris instead of Craig, would make sense to me. Since I have nothing against him, I'll take your word that he wasn't grouchy. I'll ask for Chris then on Friday when I stop in to order 2 extra mags for the P232. :mrgreen:

robsterclaw
02-24-2007, 00:11
Got a call from Jeff yesterday that the Sig I won in their contest was in. I went in today and everyone in there was having fun, very friendly and helpful. Since CBI took forever I had 40 minutes or so to look around. I know poor me :mrgreen: Everyone working today asked me if I wanted to see something just let them know at some point in my 40 minute long drooling session. I even exchanged words with Chris and I can see by the way he talks that someone could think he's grouchy, but in person you can tell he's not.

I had fun and they didn't even charge for the transfer. I expected to pay, but they didn't charge me. So I'm going to buy them a couple cases of Pepsi next week and drop it off. They told me the 1 Sig 556 that they received sold within 2 days of getting it in.

Boat Guy
10-17-2008, 17:01
A shootist friend from back east told me about Specialty when he heard I was moving here, said it had the best selection of any gunshop he'd ever seen. As with so many things he was right. Amazing selection.
I've been in several times to get "need it right now" stuff. I thought their prices were a little out of line at first, but except for trap ammo I think they're OK. Bought a Ruger LCP from them most recently

bobbyfairbanks
04-30-2010, 21:35
buy online those guys sucks except for one of them and there prices are inflated. Just take a few minutes and compare Specialty sports to online prices.

esaabye
05-01-2010, 05:51
I have been in a few times, purchased some odds and ends. They have always been good to me. I have seen 1 guy that strikes me as not wanting to help but everyone else was willing to take the time to answer questions.

Prices are higher than the web but selection is good and when you want it waiting for shipping is a pain.

I give it a B+

theGinsue
05-02-2010, 22:50
Specialty Sports is my store of last resort.

I have personally had, and been privy to MANY stories of, down-right hostile attitudes from many of the employees - as well as Jeff (one of the owners). The only person who has been consistently decent is Matt (who came over from Sportsmans).

It's hit or miss. 2/3 of the time I go in and get great service - whether I buy something or not - and walk out feeling like it was a worthwhile visit. The other 1/3 of the time I feel lucky to walk out with my skin intact.

Yes, they have the best selection in Colorado Springs. But, as many others have said, their prices are way too high in comparison to other stores and especially online sources.

What really irks me is crap like my last visit to the store. I was looking for an RCBS #10 or comparable shell holder. They had a Lee #4 (comparable). I paid about $3 more than I would have @ Sportsmans Warehouse - and more than a $3 difference if I had purchased it online, but it was only $3 and I wanted one NOW. Once I got home and got it out of the bag (I was never allowed to see/hold the pkg until it was put in a bag and I had paid for it), I found that it was USED - VERY used. This is just bad business!

I give them a C-

spaceCADETzoom
05-05-2010, 16:50
Hi, I'm new here, I just PCSed to Ft Carson. Does anyone know if Specialty Sports has a military discount? I keep seeing the store as I drive to/from work and have been meaning to drop by.

theGinsue
05-05-2010, 22:55
I don't believe that they do (I've never received a discount from them - either when I was AD or now that I'm Ret.).

Hoser
05-06-2010, 06:51
Hi, I'm new here, I just PCSed to Ft Carson. Does anyone know if Specialty Sports has a military discount? I keep seeing the store as I drive to/from work and have been meaning to drop by.

Nope.

spaceCADETzoom
05-06-2010, 18:24
Yeah, I dropped by yesterday. I'm not going to say the prices were unreasonable, but they were certainly higher than what I would consider "deals." Other than that, everything else, IMHO, rates an average. It's a big store, though. I have nothing negative to say about the customer service. And while it may seem like I"m not saying anything great, I don't mean to say anything negative about my experience.

losttrail
08-12-2010, 10:11
I go to SS once in a while just to look around, see what's new.

IMO their prices can easliy be beat just about anywhere.

Last year when Weatherby was selling Vanguard's for $399, SS was $429. When I asked about the price, "$399 is MSRP, only a suggestion".

I have purchased a few small items and some powder there, only becasue I could not find it anywhere else at the time.

The 1lb can of powder was nearly twice the cost that Bass Pro sells for. But I needed it and BP was out.

Great selection, mostly friendly folks, very knowledgeable, but too expensive for my wallet.

BigBear
08-12-2010, 10:13
Haven't been back since they tried to charge $37 for a 50 pack (9mm) of Hydrashoks.

losttrail
08-16-2010, 07:45
After visiting Bravo Arms on Saturday, I will soon forget where SS&S is. No sense wasting gas and time on overpriced items.

Ridge
10-17-2012, 12:53
A client of mine last week told me about a gun shop down in Colorado Springs made out of an old Walgreens store. I'll be working in the Springs tomorrow and Friday, thought I would drop in.

Anybody know which shop she was talking about?

Hoser
10-17-2012, 13:01
Speciality Sports on Fountain just east of Academy Blvd.

Ridge
10-17-2012, 13:05
That looks like the place.

Reviews on it seem all over the place? Any personal experiences from members here?

Singlestack
10-17-2012, 13:13
Prepare to pay top $$. Great selection, tho.

Singlestack

gonz13
10-17-2012, 13:15
Prepare to pay top $$. Great selection, tho.

Singlestack

+1

NightCat
10-17-2012, 13:20
Mixed reviews about Specialty Sports, it really depends on who you talk to and how much of an idiot they think you are or aren't.

Some friends of mine have had horrible experiences in there, I haven't had bad experience, however I wont say every time is a good experience either.

Jon, the older guy with glasses, kinda short, very nice guy! nice and informative.

Some of the others....not so much...

HoneyBadger
10-17-2012, 13:36
I've been there numerous times and never had a good experience. The employees were all a bunch of dicks and treated me like a child. Also, their great selection is muddled by an over-the-top markup.

Scanker19
10-17-2012, 14:00
They usually have pretty good prices on used items though. As in $1200 for a socom16 or $250 for a Remington 1100.

Most are dicks, but as stated before the older guy that is short or the taller hippy-ish looking dude named Bud Light is okay.

New stuff is a bit to a lot overpriced.

Zundfolge
10-17-2012, 16:20
A client of mine last week told me about a gun shop down in Colorado Springs made out of an old Walgreens store.
Was a CVS that never opened ... but yeah, that's Specialty.

Awesome place to browse and fondle ... so-so place to buy (good folk, but you can usually find better prices online ... but that's pretty common for a LGS).

Its big enough though that its not a "stand around sipping free coffee and BSing with the clerks" kinda gun shop.

T-Giv
10-17-2012, 16:25
I've been there numerous times and never had a good experience. The employees were all a bunch of dicks and treated me like a child. Also, their great selection is muddled by an over-the-top markup.

Second that when I went in there they tried to force a few guns down my throat and "educate" me on how I didn't know as much as they did. Went in once, won't go back.

HoneyBadger
10-17-2012, 16:26
Was a CVS that never opened ... but yeah, that's Specialty.

Awesome place to browse and fondle ... so-so place to buy (good folk, but you can usually find better prices online ... but that's pretty common for a LGS).

Its big enough though that its not a "stand around sipping free coffee and BSing with the clerks" kinda gun shop.

In my experiences there, they literally don't want you fondling guns unless you plan on buying from them. 3 different times I've taken a friend or my wife in there to "try out" the feel of different guns and each time a different employee basically told us not to waste their time if we weren't going to hurry up and buy something.

Zundfolge
10-17-2012, 16:27
They have a large inventory so if you want to handle a specific gun there's a good chance they'll have it so you can put your hands on one to decide if you want it ... then buy it online.

(EDIT: was instaposted by HoneyBadger)

They may have figured out that is what we use them for, but in the past I've taken people down there looking for a specific gun and we got to handle several and they were polite about it (although the clerk swept us with the muzzle ... which annoys me but happens at most shops).

But I haven't been in there in a couple years so I can't speak to what they're like today.

HoneyBadger
10-17-2012, 16:28
They have a large inventory so if you want to handle a specific gun there's a good chance they'll have it so you can put your hands on one to decide if you want it ... then buy it online.

Yeah they got pissed at me for this... LOL

TEAMRICO
10-17-2012, 17:16
Me Personally, I have never had a problem there. They are helpful to me, always let me handle anything, even as far as making me put my mitts on a piece!
The older guys a great to BS with but then again, I'm just loveable, personable sorta guy. Sunshine and butter cups!
I enjoy going in.

HoneyBadger
10-17-2012, 19:32
(EDIT: was instaposted by HoneyBadger)


I'm sorry, when I'm not being a HoneyBadger, my other persona is a forum ninja! [ROFL1]

car-15
10-17-2012, 19:46
http://www.ar-15.co/forums/showthread.php?t=3127

Ridge
10-19-2012, 13:35
Went there today. Nice selection. Only handled one pistol, so they didn't seem to be too annoyed with me. Bought a book and a few supplies while I was there.

Cool place to go, but almost a two hour drive.