View Full Version : Things that make you say "Really?"
BPTactical
12-06-2010, 20:19
I ran into a gent I know a couple of gunshows ago, he says he has a Super Blackhawk he would like me to work on for him. No problem and I ask him what kind of work it needs and he tells me he needs some sight work done to it. He proceeds to tell me that he took it to a "Gunsmith" to have the barrel shortened and sight re-installed and when he got it back he was not happy with the work that had been done:
Really?
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u69/hockeysew/IMG_2898.jpg
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u69/hockeysew/IMG_2896.jpg
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I did not inquire as to whom performed this alteration nor what they charged.
Are gunsmiths required to carry malpractice insurance? That patient is in serious condition.
To quote the Godfather:
"I want you to use all your powers, and all your skills. I don't want his mother to see him this way."
jerrymrc
12-06-2010, 20:34
Downright shameful. I will not say who I think it might have been but I have seen some similar work done by a supposed gunsmith that is blind as a bat and loves to tell people how good he is. [Shock]
Professional liability insurance is usually only available for people how can be licensed as professionals. An architect is a perfect example.
StagLefty
12-06-2010, 20:37
Holy Crap- How in the hell could anyone calling himself a gunsmith do a job like that ? Almost makes me wonder if the owner didn't try a little DIY ?
Whoever did that, clearly was no professional gunsmith. That isn't worthy of a high school shop class project.
I would love to see the after photos when you are done BP.
kidicarus13
12-06-2010, 20:39
Oh my
I understand the bronze looking stuff' but why does the sight look like it is covered in guano?
BPTactical
12-06-2010, 21:08
I understand the bronze looking stuff' but why does the sight look like it is covered in guano?
The "guano" is actually flux from the brazing rod that was used. When it is heated and especially overheated it turns to a glass-like substance. It extended into the bore about 1/2".
Bitch to remove.
Some of it is also scale from overheating the sight.
I ran into a gent I know a couple of gunshows ago, he says he has a Super Blackhawk he would like me to work on for him. No problem and I ask him what kind of work it needs and he tells me he needs some sight work done to it. He proceeds to tell me that he took it to a "Gunsmith" to have the barrel shortened and sight re-installed and when he got it back he was not happy with the work that had been done:
Really?
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I did not inquire as to whom performed this alteration nor what they charged.
REALLY??!!!
BPTactical
12-06-2010, 21:36
REALLY??!!!
Really!!!!
How in the...
WOW, just wow.
Ho-lee-jeezus! Is that what it looked like after he shoved it in the gunsmith's ass or before?
Custom barrel! LNIB!
I'll take it!
ronaldrwl
12-06-2010, 23:17
I'm guessing he did it himself but didn't want to admit it.
defiantly post pictures once you bring it back to life![Beer]
Daniel_187
12-07-2010, 10:32
Can I get that guys # I need some barrel lenghting LOL
I'm guessing from the pics that the ejector rod spring was not removed prior to trying to incinerate the barrel, and will need to be replaced as well?
It's jobs like this that give no-talent, garage hack gunsmiths a bad name.....[Rant1]
REALLY??!!!
Really... it's sad... really. [Beer]
argonstrom
12-07-2010, 11:03
wow...
Is that some of Gunsmoke's work?
SideShow Bob
12-07-2010, 20:25
What's wrong? It looks almost as good as the soldering job I did for one of the members here a week or so ago.
Professional circuit board soldering at Great rates, PM me. [Coffee]
BPTactical
12-07-2010, 22:06
What's wrong? It looks almost as good as the soldering job I did for one of the members here a week or so ago.
Professional circuit board soldering at Great rates, PM me. [Coffee]
[Puke]
It's jobs like this that give no-talent, garage hack gunsmiths a bad name.....[Rant1]
You're on fire today!
BPTactical
12-07-2010, 22:37
I was puzzled as to how one would actually consider letting this leave their shop (or kitchen table)???
A well placed punch low on the sight was sufficient to knock it off of the barrel. I was not surprised to see that even though it was obvious the amount of heat put to this there was no penetration of the braze.
After chipping away the flux and half of the braze it was:
File, say bad words, File, say some more bad words and wish unholy things upon the artist responsible, Sand, File some more, Sand and it finally appeared that there was a stainless barrel under the mess.
There was some pitting where the steel cooked on the OD of the barrel but the bore is clean after slugging and lapping it. I squared the muzzle and re-crowned it.
The old ramped sight was trash, the base was tweaked more than likely from the original attempt to remove it. Now the only way the sight base is available is on a complete barrel and the owner did not want to re-barrel it.
I decided to go ala' Vaquero or Single Action Army with a blade but the owner did not want the straight backed blade so it would not snag upon drawing.
I took a 1/8" piece of 304 stainless and whittled one out. I am not sure if the proportions are quite right, but it is the same height and length as the stock ramped sight.
I milled a slot in the barrel .075 deep and fit the blade for a press fit. I then Silver brazed the blade in place and tried to match the original brushed finish as well as I could.
The ejector rod spring was in fact replaced, the old one had lost it's temper and would not even return the rod to it's rest position.
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Wow, a total 180. Very impressed.
MUCH better!!! Turd polishing at it's finest.
that is living proof, that a piece of shit can most certainly be polished to a shiney finish, by a professional of course. That is an amazing outcome considering what you started with. Nice work to say the least[M2]
When I first saw this I choked on the mtn dew I was drinking and it came out my nose. True story
SA Friday
12-07-2010, 23:32
I'm shocked the rifling isn't totally out of specs after that much heat was applied to the SS barrel.
You would have had to clean the shit off the barrel if that was my gun, cuz i would have inserted it into the guys ass before I left.
You sir, are a craftsman. When I need work done, you will be the first call I make.
You wouldn't happen to be looking for an apprentice?
All I have to say its DAMN!!!! that was a messed up POS....
And now all I have to say is DAMN!!!! thats a hellva job you did on that barrel! Great work and hope he tips you on that one!
StagLefty
12-08-2010, 10:47
WOW-great job cleaning that mess up. PM sent-guy just asked me Sunday if I had a gunsmith I'd recommend . [Beer]
OneGuy67
12-08-2010, 10:51
You do great work, my friend! Very impressive!
68Charger
12-08-2010, 10:56
beautiful work, and I'll commend you for working within what the customer wanted, instead of insisting on the re-barrel!
A fine craftsman that also puts customer 1st is a rare find indeed!
Wow, a complete revival... Very nice work!
kidicarus13
12-08-2010, 11:10
I can't believe it turned out so well after the orginal hack job. Nice work!
nontactical
12-08-2010, 22:54
Damn dude... ever thought of running for office? If you could to that to Obamacare you'd have my vote.
Now that is the work of a craftsman. Beautiful.
Bailey Guns
12-09-2010, 09:12
After looking at the first picture, I thought, "Wow".
After looking at the second picture, knowing what the first picture looked like, I thought, "WOW!!!"
Nice work!
great work!!! you brought it back to life thats for sure![Beer]
funkfool
12-09-2010, 17:21
Great work.
I did not inquire as to whom performed this alteration nor what they charged.
No, seriously, if someone who claims to be a gunsmith really did the first job on that, his name should definitely be put out there for everyone to know. Really!
The guy is a thief and a fraud--why wouldn't we put his name out, attached to the job he did?
Now if the owner of the gun really did the job himself, well...OK we don't need to know that!
BPTactical
12-09-2010, 19:33
I did not inquire as to whom performed this alteration nor what they charged.
No, seriously, if someone who claims to be a gunsmith really did the first job on that, his name should definitely be put out there for everyone to know. Really!
The guy is a thief and a fraud--why wouldn't we put his name out, attached to the job he did?
Now if the owner of the gun really did the job himself, well...OK we don't need to know that!
I asked the owner who did the work a couple of times. All he said is it was done by someone who has done work for him in the past and has done decent work.
It definitely made me wonder what one considers "decent".
I did not pry further than that as it would have been rude and I am not in the habit of offending a customer.
Is the customer always right?
No, but they are always the customer.
Troublco
12-09-2010, 21:42
Well, I'd say "decent" is one of those wiggle words that means a little something different for everyone. I've seen some interesting hack jobs, but that was one of the worst. I vote that he did it himself, as I cannot imagine anyone who would call himself a smith doing that. (Doesn't mean they wouldn't, I just can't imagine it!) 'Cause damn sure if someone handed me one of my guns looking like that after I'd hired them to do work on it, I'd have used it to try to remove their tonsils through their rectum. Good job on the fix.
GunsRBadMMMMKay
05-24-2011, 22:42
That is definitely impressive. Nicely done.
SA Friday
10-10-2013, 10:33
Don't want to ZOMBIE this thread, but I just showed this to a young newly trained gunsmith to iterate a point. Needless to say he was impressed. BP knows him, so I waned to pass along how simple pic's like this effect the mentoring process. God knows I try daily.[Coffee]
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