Border Patrol agent killed

[hurley842002]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/12/15/border-patrol-agent-killed-southern-arizona/

Wonder how many times this has to happen before something is actually done?

Rest in peace and Semper Fi

[Byte Stryke]

The Assailant(s) are just misunderstood.
Reckless violence, disregard human life and for the laws of this Nation are part of their culture and we just don't understand.


/sarcasm

[cstone]

Somehow one of those US guns was smuggled across the border and then smuggled back north, only to be used against one of our fellow citizens while he was defending our border.

Why do I have the feeling that this tragedy will be used to call for tighter control of guns in the US while nothing is done to control smuggling of drugs and money?

[Bailey Guns]

Just another in a long list of reasons to dislike and distrust what the federal government has become.




Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said the killing is an "unconscionable act of violence,"...



No, you stupid, ignorant bitch. What's unconscionable is the fact that you and many of our elected officials will use the death of this agent to yak incessantly about why MY rights need to be restricted while you fail to take the steps necessary to stop the real problem because you're all to chickenshit to do what needs to be done.

[waxthis]

Perhaps if the media would keep up the pressure on how bad the drug war is in Mexico, the U.S might take border security seriously. This site shows the ongoing battle Mexico is having with the cartels. Our F$%@!#% government better get its shit together before this crap starts to spill over worse than it already is. I feel for those Agents and their families, as those poor guys are in a battle they can’t win and have NO support.



http://www.blogdelnarco.com/2010/12/decapitan-tres-en-guerrero.html


"use the translate button on the top left to switch the text to english"

[sniper7]

Shoot anything and anyone that crosses our border illegally. I consider it an invasion.

[TFOGGER]

The news spoke of a "massive manhunt".....it should be conducted from the air, with Blackhawks with miniguns mounted. No mercy, no trial. Any other country in the world would respond to an armed invasion with force, why won't we? [AR15][M2][Bang]

[Irving]

Just another in a long list of reasons to dislike and distrust what the federal government has become.




No, you stupid, ignorant bitch. What's unconscionable is the fact that you and many of our elected officials will use the death of this agent to yak incessantly about why MY rights need to be restricted while you fail to take the steps necessary to stop the real problem because you're all to chickenshit to do what needs to be done.



How can you say that while Janet is, at this very moment, working her tail off to make our Walmarts safer?

[Jumpstart]

Bean bags vs. AK-47s




Another Border Patrol agent on the Arizona border was shot and killed by Mexican drug smugglers last Tuesday. Of the eight attackers, four are in custody and a fifth is under surveillance by Border Patrol Blackhawk helicopters as he tries to make his way back to the Mexican border.
BP Agent Brian Terry was part of a BORTAC team (for border tactical unit) tracking armed drug smugglers 15 miles northwest of Nogales, Ariz., (and only three miles west of Interstate 19) when they were attacked with automatic weapons fire. The area is well-known as a major drug-smuggling corridor, and the smugglers are known to frequently be armed with AK-47s and other long rifles.
Here's the part Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Border Patrol management are trying to hide: Border Patrol Agent Terry and the BORTAC team were under standing orders to always use ("non-lethal") bean-bag rounds first before using live ammunition. When the smugglers heard the first rounds, they returned fire with real bullets, and Agent Terry was killed in that exchange. Real bullets outperform bean bags every time.
The larger, ugly truth Napolitano and senior managers in the Border Patrol want to hide is that the rules of engagement and inadequate weaponry of the Border Patrol place the lives of all agents at grave risk. The National Border Patrol Council, which represents over 15,000 field agents, believes the border is too dangerous for officers to patrol without body armor, armored vehicles and automatic weapons.
Another aspect of this story that is not being reported is that the site of the shooting, Peck Canyon, is inside the area Rep. Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz., has proposed to designate as the Tumacacori Highlands Wilderness reserve. If Grijalva's bill is enacted into law, what is now a well-established drug smuggling corridor will become a drug-smuggling superhighway, because the Border Patrol will be prohibited from patrolling the region. Rep. Rob Bishop of Utah has proposed legislation that will remove the restrictions on Border Patrol jurisdiction on such public lands within 50 miles of the border.
On Thursday, Secretary Napolitano and several aides flew to Tucson to meet with local Border Patrol brass. The Obama administration obviously has a mess on its hands, and Napolitano does not want it to blow up before today's U.S. Senate vote on the Dream Act. They know another murder on the southwest border will not help garner needed votes for the Dream Act, because senators supporting that bill must be able to say with a straight face, "The border is as secure as it has ever been."
The BORTAC team encountered not one or two smugglers but a team of eight. Four are in custody, one is under surveillance in the rugged terrain of the Pajarita Wilderness area east of the small ranch town of Ruby, and three others are missing. The captured smugglers had AK-47s and backpacks filled with ammunition, food and radios. There are rumors that three of the captured four are members of the Mexican military, but that is unconfirmed. Yet, it would not be the first time Mexican police and military have been apprehended smuggling drugs into the United States.
It is not widely reported by our news media that the smugglers maintain a dozen or more permanent lookout posts on desert hilltops inside the U.S., and that those lookout posts are manned in week-long shifts by individuals who commute not from Mexico but from Phoenix, Tucson and other Arizona cities.
The allegation that the Sinaloa drug cartel obtained those AK-47s from gun shops in the United States is nonsensical. That's a fairy tale cooked up by the Obama administration and endorsed by the Mexican government because they do not want to admit that the cartels get most of their serious weaponry from the international black market and the Mexican military itself.
The rules requiring first use of bean-bag ammunition is but one example of the suicidal rules of engagement that govern Border Patrol operations. The reason they have such insane rules? The politicians who run the agency do not want the public to think the border is so dangerous a place that Border Patrol agents fear for their lives. In other words, the rules of engagement are based on a lie, a lie that must be maintained for political purposes.
Secretary Napolitano should do two things on Monday morning. First, she should order all Border Patrol agents to be issued weapons adequate for both self-defense and apprehension of armed drug smugglers. The second thing she should do Monday morning is resign.

[GhostRider]

Thanks for protecting our country, twice
R.I.P Sir.

[Salute]

[vietboy1st]

Oh yeah i heard about this on my local gun forum also. It suck.. Send a couple or so US special force or seal team to take out them drug cartels. At least and restore the mexican government. that can stop the drug trade between mex and US.

[Irving]

This conflict reaffirms my belief in the 2nd Amendment at the very least. The Mexican government has little to no control over the people with the guns. It's a real mess down there (including up here), but the point still remains.

[jmg8550]

Janet Napolitano: United States Secretary of Homeland Insecurity.

Somebody should put her on the border and run patrols. She wouldn't last a day on the job.