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Was working at a gas station until something better came along. Well, as of Wed., it did. I tried to help out my soon to be former boss, and wanted to work out a schedule that would not leave her hanging once I started my new job.
Friday, we were supposed to talk about it and work it out. As I pull in to work, she is getting into her car. She leans out and says she'll be right back. Never saw her again. Didn't see her today, either...so I brought in all my work shirts today and left them on her desk with a message...
http://i.imgur.com/9if9i.jpg
Well played. Does working at a gas station pay okay? I've thought about it.
Byte Stryke
12-19-2010, 00:06
Well played. Does working at a gas station pay okay? I've thought about it.
Slightly above Minimum, if not right at
ChunkyMonkey
12-19-2010, 00:10
Well played. Does working at a gas station pay okay? I've thought about it.
My very first job was @ 7-11, minimum pay and all the snack, food, drink etc you can take [ROFL1] Senior co-workers would intentionally drop a can and mark it as damaged item and have at it.
Then, I became a shift manager and was very strict about those stuffs since it effected my bonuses. [Tooth]
$8/hr start, not even a discount on things in the store.
Only perk was free coffee and fountain drinks...
Yikes, I'll stick to the warehouse job.
Normally, I'd agree...but she started the fire, I was just carrying the gas can across at the time...
Byte Stryke
12-19-2010, 00:23
The wife works at one.
7.50/hr No OT, Not even a solid 40
Most weeks maybe 30
She gets free Fountain soda and Coffee if she brings her own unmarked covered cup
theGinsue
12-19-2010, 00:46
Agree with Stuart. That was well played.
I wonder if your boss just up and quit too - without warning.
Doubt it...she's been there for I think 5 years, and was telling me how great it is to be a manager (apparently I was on track to replace the overnight manager once he goes on disability)
Even he told me to get out as fast as possible.
I'm all about leaving a job you don't like. But... Remember when your next employer needs references guess who he is going to want to call. When your next employer wants employee history and you give them her number what is she going to say? I think even from the worst job you should give notice. I'm just saying, from someone that hires people.
trlcavscout
12-19-2010, 01:08
That is the funniest shit I have seen all day!!! [ROFL1] Other then Mohamed yelling at me.
theGinsue
12-19-2010, 01:12
I'm all about leaving a job you don't like. But... Remember when your next employer needs references guess who he is going to want to call. When your next employer wants employee history and you give them her number what is she going to say? I think even from the worst job you should give notice. I'm just saying, from someone that hires people.
By Colorado law all a former employer is ALLOWED to say is: "Yes, <insert name of employee> worked here from <start date> to <end date>".
That is ALL they can legally say. Anything else is a violation of the law and opens the company and manager up for civil and criminal lawsuits.
I'm all about leaving a job you don't like. But... Remember when your next employer needs references guess who he is going to want to call. When your next employer wants employee history and you give them her number what is she going to say? I think even from the worst job you should give notice. I'm just saying, from someone that hires people.
I worked there for less than a month. I'll just say I was unemployed during that time if they ask....
In your situation your fine. But in general Ill stand by what I said.
Went to grab a can tonight and some Indian Bitch at the Sinclair on Broadway was saying that my ID did not match my DL name did not my card name. Gas station rant for the nights
By Colorado law all a former employer is ALLOWED to say is: "Yes, <insert name of employee> worked here from <start date> to <end date>".
That is ALL they can legally say. Anything else is a violation of the law and opens the company and manager up for civil and criminal lawsuits.
yes, thats the law but you would be surprised what people would say voluntarily.
I think they can ask more than just the one question, like if you are eligible for rehire or not, but no details. Even the being eligible for rehire part doesn't matter much, as many companies have a policy that if you ever leave, for any reason, you are automatically not eligible for rehire. Sometimes people will say, "I'd love to rehire this person, but our company policy doesn't allow it." In my experience, working for a large corporation, no one I worked with even works at the company anymore. In many cases, you just call a 1-800 number and listen to a pre-recorded message about your work dates.
Inspector Fowler
12-19-2010, 02:13
I used to work for a restaurant when I was in college. I was a lowly busboy.
Within days I realized that the managers were stealing the waiter's credit card tips, and bussers got a percentage of those tips. The result was that most nights I wasn't even clearing minimum wage, and it's not like the owner was going to believe some new guy over his manager, so I didn't have much recourse.
I quit without notice - I figured if they were going to steal my pay it's not like I owed them anything. That seemed reasonable - it still seems reasonable to me - if you can't pay a guy what you owe him, don't hire him in the first place.
Later, however, it gave me a lot of troubles. I have been honest on all my job applications and I know of at least two places where it was a stumbling block. One place flatly refused to hire "somebody with a poor work ethic" and another place eventually hired me after much explaining about the situation. Now I would be very hard pressed to quit a job without two weeks notice no matter the treatment simply because of the garbage down the line that may result.
I've had to resign in lieu of termination before. I flat out explained the situation in the middle of a job interview and asked the interviewer what she thought and what I should say in the future. The company that "fired" me told me, "Don't worry about it, just say you were laid off." After I asked that lady, she made me feel better about saying I was just laid off, but I'm still hung up over what I should tell people when I interview. I've been unable to get a job in the same industry since and I can't tell if it is because of the economy, or some secret black list or something.
trlcavscout
12-19-2010, 07:44
I never give two weeks notice anymore. Do they give you two weeks notice before firing/laying off? When I was a GM tech in Las Vegas and wanted to switch jobs to get a raise during the interview the your "new boss" would usually offer you +/- $500 cash to have your tool box there that day. Most companys fire you on the spot when you give notice anyways.
JohnTRourke
12-19-2010, 07:47
that's right
Colorado is an "at will" state.
meaning your employment is at will of either the employee (you) or the employer (your boss)
No notice is required for either party.
The OP tried to be a nice guy, the boss lady lied to him (be right back) so he's fine IMHO.
I do hope the OP got a receipt for turning his shirts and cards back in. Always get it in writing.
Great-Kazoo
12-19-2010, 09:08
I've had to resign in lieu of termination before. I flat out explained the situation in the middle of a job interview and asked the interviewer what she thought and what I should say in the future. The company that "fired" me told me, "Don't worry about it, just say you were laid off." After I asked that lady, she made me feel better about saying I was just laid off, but I'm still hung up over what I should tell people when I interview. I've been unable to get a job in the same industry since and I can't tell if it is because of the economy, or some secret black list or something.
Both
I'm entering that phase of life. what the supervisor can and does say are 2 different things.
You as the hopeful new hire very rarely are aware what was said or have an opportunity to justify your decision to terminate the past job
you should have procured something to verify turning in the work provided material. They can say it was never received upon separation and deduct those items from you pay
gnihcraes
12-19-2010, 09:33
My experience anymore, it seems that references are not called. If the intensive background check doesn't come clean, you won't get the job. I lost a job this year because of an intensive background check didn't come clean with something I listed on my resume. Just FYI. (DOH!)
micah360
12-19-2010, 11:00
what's your new job now Ridge??
Did Bower's hire you?
Great-Kazoo
12-19-2010, 12:17
what's your new job now Ridge??
Did Bower's hire you?
i heard he's a fluffer? what ever that is :o
OneGuy67
12-19-2010, 12:53
By Colorado law all a former employer is ALLOWED to say is: "Yes, <insert name of employee> worked here from <start date> to <end date>".
That is ALL they can legally say. Anything else is a violation of the law and opens the company and manager up for civil and criminal lawsuits.
Not true. I do backgrounds for our potential employees and the list of questions I ask is certainly longer than 2. The best one to ask is "Would you re-hire this person?"
Of course, this is for law enforcement and there may be more leeway with the HR peoples for that.
Byte Stryke
12-19-2010, 13:35
Not true. I do backgrounds for our potential employees and the list of questions I ask is certainly longer than 2. The best one to ask is "Would you re-hire this person?"
Of course, this is for law enforcement and there may be more leeway with the HR peoples for that.
Once again the cops are expecting separate rules for themselves. ;)
My Former employer My representative and I had a little chat after I "Applied" to work with a relative and she signed an affidavit to the conversation along with a recording (This conversation may be recorded for blah blah blah..)
companies, regardless of size think they are above the law. They will do whatever they think they can get away with and HR Reps believe they can get away with everything.
Inspector Fowler
12-19-2010, 14:49
Of course, this is for law enforcement and there may be more leeway with the HR peoples for that.
Every cop job I applied for has always included a lengthy waiver essentially giving up my rights as an employee so they could get a more complete picture of my work performance.
what's your new job now Ridge??
Did Bower's hire you?
I get to wear a suit and a little hat, and I open the door for people [ROFL2]
Byte Stryke
12-19-2010, 19:10
Every cop job I applied for has always included a lengthy waiver essentially giving up my rights as an employee so they could get a more complete picture of my work performance.
you cannot waive state law
Inspector Fowler
12-19-2010, 19:34
I can waive rights, aren't these just rights granted to me under state law?
I will fully admit that civil laws are outside my area of expertise, I don't have to use them at work most of the time. That said, though...
Each time I applied with a different agency, there is always a page that was signed and notarized that I thought was allowing release of employment history, records, etc. If no information beyond the normal was needed - why the extra page? Anybody can call my department right now and verify my employment - a guy off the street can do it. So I always assumed that the waivers were so they could get extra information regarding my actual performance at work.
Like I said, I could be wrong. I would need to talk to our background investigator to find out how it works. I would guess it is probably like a polygraph - Wal-Mart can't use it for hiring but a police department can.
ChunkyMonkey
12-19-2010, 20:11
you cannot waive state law
No, you cannot, but you can voluntarily authorize anyone or any entity to check every single details of your life. You sign away your privacy whenever you apply for a credit or loan and most of licensed or certified employment.
claimbuster
12-19-2010, 20:22
There have been a lot of statements made here that I don't think I agree with. As an employer we don't release any information on previous employees, other than dates of service, by choice, not law. I don't think there are any Colorado laws that preclude release of information on previous employees. However, I am willing to admit I could be wrong.
From the Colorado Department of Labor & Employment:
Colorado law states that any employer who provides information about a current or former employee's job history or job performance to a prospective employer of the current or former employee upon request of the prospective employer or the current or former employee is immune from civil liability and is not liable in civil damages for the disclosure or any consequences of the disclosure.
This immunity shall not apply when such employee shows by a preponderance of the evidence both of the following:
The information disclosed by the current or former employer was false.
AND
The employer providing the information knew or reasonably should have known that the information was false.
Please contact an attorney for legal advice regarding application of this law to any specific situation.
http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/CDLE-LaborLaws/CDLE/1250083136068
Now if I am missing something, I sure would like to know about it.
Years ago I called for a reference on a prospective employee and the president of this small company said he did not give out references on prior employees. Then he went on to say, "...and for that SOB I would never give a reference!" [ROFL2][ROFL2]
OK, guess I didn't want to hire the guy and I didn't.
Which Circle K? I need a job!
Chambers & Hampden in SE Aurora
ChunkyMonkey
12-19-2010, 23:43
Chambers & Hampden in SE Aurora
One of the night shift guys always stinks... hope that wasn't you [ROFL1]
OgenRwot
12-20-2010, 02:23
I worked there for less than a month. I'll just say I was unemployed during that time if they ask....
This makes all the difference in the world. You can't really list jobs that you weren't at for less than 6 months. So eff it, who cares?
One of the night shift guys always stinks... hope that wasn't you [ROFL1]
Hope not. I worked graveyard all of twice, and those were both last week [LOL]
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