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Elhuero
12-23-2010, 12:48
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2039352,00.html?hpt=C2



If it's been a few years since your last school field trip to the local fire station, brace yourself for disappointment — because you'll be hard-pressed to find the signature apparatus you remember: the fire pole.
As safety officials and architects design new facilities, liability issues are relegating poles to the dustbins of history. Now stairs — and occasionally slides — are replacing those fire-hall icons of yesteryear. While some new stations in the U.S. still include poles, the National Fire Protection Association aims to change that. "Fire departments are questioning the need for a fire pole and going with regular stairs," says Ken Willette, a retired fire chief in Massachusetts who now manages the association's public fire-protection division. "If there was a fire pole, we would want it enclosed so nobody stumbles into it in the middle of the night."


Seattle knows this danger all too well, having settled a lawsuit for $13 million in 2009 after a firefighter fell down the open area around the pole and sustained brain injuries. The city has gone on to ban the poles as it renovates or replaces all 32 of its neighborhood fire stations.
"The pole is something we associated with as kids," says Scott Wolf, a partner at the architectural firm Miller Hull, which designed Seattle's Lake City station that opened in June and another station set to open in the Greenwood neighborhood in 2011. "But the pole has been one of the biggest sources of firefighter injury."
Instead of poles, modern designs focus on single-story stations or on placing staircases in various locations to improve firefighters' speed. In North Carolina, Wilson Fire/Rescue Services has come up with a different solution: slides. Commander Ben Smith calls them "a little bit safer" than poles.



No matter the conduit, getting firefighters to the equipment as quickly and directly as possible remains critical. Susi Rosenthal, an assistant fire chief in Seattle who oversees the city's facilities, says poles have always been a personal decision anyway. "I always prefer stairs," the 30-year veteran says. "As long as you get there at the same time, it doesn't matter. In my experience, the younger you are, the more likely you are to slide a pole."
Wolf says he set out to turn Seattle's bunker-like facilities into intentionally extroverted civic locations so that citizens "understand what happens in fire stations," he says. Apparatus bays at the Greenwood station come right up to the property line, allowing passersby to look inside. This move also lets in more daylight, which has helped the station and others stay on track to attain LEED Gold certification, a relatively new accomplishment for these specialized facilities.



Aside from more daylighting, the new fire stations in Seattle incorporate sustainable features like responsibly harvested wood, durable materials and energy-efficient equipment, and even the water is getting greener. At the Lake City station, a 7,000-gallon underground storage tank collects rainwater — plenty of that in Seattle — that is used for flushing the toilets, watering the landscape and washing the fire trucks.


Sorry, kids, a gray-water system may not be quite as cool as a fire pole, but at least the trucks will still be bright and shiny.

cstone
12-23-2010, 12:52
I don't have an opinion one way or the other about how fireman get from one floor to the other, but could someone explain what this is:

responsibly harvested wood

Mtn.man
12-23-2010, 12:53
Hopefully they won't get the poles at PT's.

BigMat
12-23-2010, 12:59
you know, after 2 years in and out of who-knows how many fire stations, I never went down 1 fire pole, in fact, I can't think of a single station that had one. Truth be told, I also wouldn't want to go down one at 3 in the morning in the dark. I didn't see any kids on tours either.

HBARleatherneck
12-23-2010, 13:02
clearly fire poles arent a "west thing" im guessing big city chicago, new york, that have tenament style housing also have multilevel firehouses. hence the need. out here we have room for a ranch style firehouse. but a slide does sound fun.

StagLefty
12-23-2010, 13:03
Hopefully they won't get the poles at PT's.

[ROFL1]"well seasoned poles ?"
[ROFL1]

Marlin
12-23-2010, 13:27
The old FS in Littleton had the pole.. But, when they built the new combo FS/PS, it was a ranch style.. Think that was around 1973 give or take..

BigMat
12-23-2010, 13:42
clearly fire poles arent a "west thing" im guessing big city chicago, new york, that have tenament style housing also have multilevel firehouses. hence the need. out here we have room for a ranch style firehouse. but a slide does sound fun.

That includes a couple 2 story fire houses.

BPTactical
12-23-2010, 15:34
[ROFL1]"well seasoned poles ?"
[ROFL1]


Question is:
What seasoning?
Curry Sauce?
Hollandaise?
Taco Bell?
[Puke]

Byte Stryke
12-23-2010, 15:43
Hopefully they won't get the poles at PT's.


[ROFL1]"well seasoned poles ?"
[ROFL1]


Question is:
What seasoning?
Curry Sauce?
Hollandaise?
Taco Bell?
[Puke]

ehh,
If I Have to guess:
PTs: Boston clam Chowder
New York Firehouse: Italian Sausage


[Puke]

StagLefty
12-23-2010, 15:44
Question is:
What seasoning?
Curry Sauce?
Hollandaise?
Taco Bell?
[Puke]

"Lil Kittens"

Ah Pook
12-23-2010, 17:20
Our local FS doesn't have a pole. It does have a slide, though. :Cool:

BPTactical
12-23-2010, 18:24
"Lil Kittens"

I just blew Pepsi Stag[Pepsi]
Frickin Priceless

Irving
12-23-2010, 20:17
I think office buildings should have fire poles in case the stairs are crowded (with women) during a fire.