Seatbelts.....again

[Fentonite]

Yesterday, a car with a man, woman, and their daughter rolled over on the highway. The man was not wearing his seatbelt, and was partially ejected, then dragged under the car until it stopped. His wife and daughter, who were buckled-up, were ok.

My wife was one of the paramedics who responded. She got to explain to the wife and daughter that their husband/daddy was dead, and then help them though the viewing of their mangled love one on the highway.

That family will never be the same. Christmas will forever have a new meaning to them. They'll never forget that gruesome scene (I'm omitting details out of respect). I maintain that it is not the government's place to be our nanny. Don't wear your seatbelt just because the government says so. Wear it for your wives and daughters.

[StagLefty]

Don't wear your seatbelt just because the government says so. Wear it for your wives and daughters.

Amen !!

[Clint45]

ALWAYS wear your seatbelt when driving at highway speeds.

[BigBear]

I am a living miracle in terms of not wearing seatbelts. PLEASE, please, for your own life, buckle up!!

[ERNO]

Kati Coric on CBS News, said that millions of Ford seatbelts are defective. The SHA blamed a guy for not wearing a seat belt, when his Ford Bronco rolled over and he was ejected and killed. The morgue photo's show a slash cut along his collarbone which proved he was faithfully wearing his seatbelt at the time of the crash.
Turns out, if you have a rollover and the seatbelt goes forward, it does not retract, therefore you just get forced out of restraint and go right out the door or thru the roof during rollover.
I forget the name of the seatbelt company. The newscast was a couple of months ago.

Erno

[PoPo]

[TFOGGER]

I am a living miracle in terms of not wearing seatbelts. PLEASE, please, for your own life, buckle up!!

+1

I rolled a truck down I-80 at rush hour in Omaha, and was pitched out about 1 1/2 rolls into the 3 1/2 that the truck completed. I was incredibly lucky not to have been seriously injured or killed.

[ronaldrwl]

Bah Humbug

[Byte Stryke]

ALWAYS wear your seatbelt when in a moving vehicle.


Fixed it for you
Sure as shit you are toodling around at 20mph, some jack-hole on his 9th DUI hits you head on at 60mph, you WILL be ejected through the windshield in an 80mph collision.

Don't be a victim of natural selection.

[hurley842002]

Kati Coric on CBS News, said that millions of Ford seatbelts are defective. The SHA blamed a guy for not wearing a seat belt, when his Ford Bronco rolled over and he was ejected and killed. The morgue photo's show a slaah cut along his collarbone which proved he was faithfully wearing his seatbelt at the time of the crash.
Turns out, if you have a rollover and the seatbelt goes forward, it does not retract, therefore you just get forced out of restraint and go right out the door or thru the roof during rollover.
I forget the name of the seatbelt company. The newscast was a couple of months ago.

Erno

[PoPo]

I happen to be a victim of a faulty Ford Bronco seat belt. Fortunately we were only going 55 when the head on occured, so my head only went partially through the windshield.

[JohnTRourke]

I know
let's pass a law demanding that all subjects wear their seat belt.


oh
wait

never mind.

[Byte Stryke]

I know
let's pass a law demanding that all subjects wear their seat belt.


oh
wait

never mind.

I Agree that if you decide you are stupid enough to operate a motor vehicle without provided safety devices, that should be your choice.

UNFORTUNATELY

When your Dumb-ass turns into a projectile killing all of the other occupants of the vehicle you are traveling in, it affects others. When your dumb-ass is ejected, you head-butt a solid object at 40mph and you become a vegetable sucking hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical expenses a year, we have to pay for it.
And then your widow and Orphans will want Welfare and Medicare because daddy is dead.
:(


So yea, I kinda have a problem when other people impose their rights ahead of the well-being of others.

When they come up with a waiver for the stupid people not costing the smart ones more money. I am so down with the natural selection shit.

[Zundfolge]

As I said last time this subject came up.


The only person dumber than one that doesn't wear his seatbelt is one that wants his government to FORCE him to.

[Fentonite]

I agree with Byte and Zundfolge, but my intent was not to re-open the debate about governmental involvement in the seatbelt arena. Those who thought it was, missed my point.

I believe it is a man's job to protect his family. There are those who will reject common sense and good judgment and continue to refuse to wear a seatbelt, only because they are ass-hurt about being told to do so. When your choices result in your wife and daughter crying while kneeling in your innards, you have failed as a husband and father.

[Byte Stryke]

If the Government and Civil courts would add an idiot clause. I would say the government has no business telling people they have to wear seat-belts or helmets.

Ideally something like the following.


Mr Smith,
We have determined that you and your wife were not wearing your seat-belts at the time of your recent accident. Your life insurance is hereby revoked to avoid unnecessary costs to other customers and the stockholders. Your medical insurance is also void for the same reasons. You are not eligible for medicare, medicaid, Social security, Workman's Compensation, Or even a fucking church food drive for Christmas for similar reasons. All costs associated with this incident will be your sole responsibility
All of your property is being seized and auctioned to pay for all of the emergency responders, They should not pay for your ignorance.
We aren't burying your wife and if you can't pay for it we will sell her body to a university for dissection and study to cover the costs. Your kid(s) will not be eligible for any therapy or any form of social services as there is no allocation for other peoples stupidity in this fiscal years tax budget. Get used to them coming in VERY Late at night or early in the morning smelling of cheap perfume and vomit.
You have forfeited any and all claims of civil or criminal liability for any and all parties involved in, responding to or even remotely near the incident.
We thank you for eliminating yet another sample from the shallow end of the Gene-Pool

[OgenRwot]

I agree with Byte [Faint]

[hurley842002]

I agree with Byte [Faint]
X2 well done! [Beer]

[mx'r]

And I was PISSED that I got a ticket this week from COSP for my employee sitting next to me NOT wearing his seatbelt. $75 fine. After reading the OP, I'm not upset anymore. The idiot employee will be paying my fine and my thoughts and comments (cursing) on the COSP have been retracted ( Please forgive me). Thanks for the read, changed my attitude a bit. I always wear a belt, but didnt like the government making me do it. [PoPo]

[JohnTRourke]

If the Government and Civil courts would add an idiot clause. I would say the government has no business telling people they have to wear seat-belts or helmets.

Ideally something like the following.

well it didn't quote your rant, but pretend it did.
but
let's see, you (he, the person in the accident) paid for their life insurance, the insurance company knew the risks.
paid for their health insurance too, they knew the risk.
paid for their car/property insurance too, they also knew that risk.

emergency responders are paid for by everyone's taxes. So, if you want to go your way (pay per use), that's fine, but I'm not paying taxes for it AND paying per use. So, if we do it your way, I want a refund for the last 20 years or so of a couple hundred dollars a year that I haven't used.

the rest of the rant shouldn't be covered for anybody, ever, no matter what, just liberalism run away with itself.

these people knew the risks, life isn't risk free. Either we ban everything and only allow government approved activities or you know, we could allow people to make their own decisions and live (or not) with the consequences. The 2nd choice seemed to work fine for the first 175 years or so in this country.






BTW, I wear my seat belt in my car/truck, nothing else. I'll still die someday, from something, just like everyone else. Nobody gets out alive.

[ERNO]

Always have a seat belt cutter and a window smasher handy at all times while operating your vechicle.

Erno

[StagLefty]

Always have a seat belt cutter and a window smasher handy at all times while operating your vechicle.

Erno

Gun & knife ? [Coffee]

[Byte Stryke]

well it didn't quote your rant, but pretend it did.
but
let's see, you (he, the person in the accident) paid for their life insurance, the insurance company knew the risks.
paid for their health insurance too, they knew the risk.
paid for their car/property insurance too, they also knew that risk.

emergency responders are paid for by everyone's taxes. So, if you want to go your way (pay per use), that's fine, but I'm not paying taxes for it AND paying per use. So, if we do it your way, I want a refund for the last 20 years or so of a couple hundred dollars a year that I haven't used.

the rest of the rant shouldn't be covered for anybody, ever, no matter what, just liberalism run away with itself.

these people knew the risks, life isn't risk free. Either we ban everything and only allow government approved activities or you know, we could allow people to make their own decisions and live (or not) with the consequences. The 2nd choice seemed to work fine for the first 175 years or so in this country.






BTW, I wear my seat belt in my car/truck, nothing else. I'll still die someday, from something, just like everyone else. Nobody gets out alive.


Calling Paramedics to scoop stupid Vs walking away
Higher Insurance Vs reasonable insurance
(If you don't think Others Stupidity costs you here, you deserve higher rates)
Same with the taxes

Simply look at rates where Helmet laws are mandatory Vs States that don't

Next thing you know I am going to hear an argument that its your Right to talk on the phone while attempting to maneuver a 4 thousand pound land missile.

If people could be stupid and not involve me, I am all for it.
Motocross, skydiving and Bungee jumping all come to mind.
There is a reason none of these are allowed on the public roadways.

[Byte Stryke]

I agree with Byte [Faint]


Isn't this one of the Seven signs of the Apocalypse?


;)

[Ah Pook]

We had a 23yo kid partially ejected, in a roll over accident, up here about three weeks ago. The meat wagon got to use the shovels.

He left behind a fiance and family. Nice kid too. :(

[Troublco]

I agree with Byte and Zundfolge, but my intent was not to re-open the debate about governmental involvement in the seatbelt arena. Those who thought it was, missed my point.

I believe it is a man's job to protect his family. There are those who will reject common sense and good judgment and continue to refuse to wear a seatbelt, only because they are ass-hurt about being told to do so. When your choices result in your wife and daughter crying while kneeling in your innards, you have failed as a husband and father.

This. This guy's stupidity cost his wife her husband, and his daughter her father. He won't be there to watch his daughter grow up, or graduate, or give her away at her wedding, or help with school projects. He won't be able to help the wife raise the daughter, or anything else. In the end he failed at his greatest responsibility - providing for his family. Suicide by stupidity. I feel sorry for the wife and daughter, this is the worst time of year for something like this; not that there's ever a good one.

[StagLefty]

I agree with Byte [Faint]

Damn out of staters-oops my bad it's you OgenRwot [ROFL1]

[mx'r]

Motocross, skydiving and Bungee jumping all come to mind.



easy Byte, easy. We know that were stupid. Just dont like others telling us that were stupid. It's all risky business out there.

[Irving]

Byte, your rant is stupid. People pay WAY more into life insurance than they ever get out of it. Voiding health insurance maybe, but not even close for life insurance.

[Byte Stryke]

Byte, your rant is stupid. People pay WAY more into life insurance than they ever get out of it. Voiding health insurance maybe, but not even close for life insurance.

anyone that knows anything about insurance will tell you that its a risk assessment gamble.
This is the whole reason that smokers pay more than non smokers. You are doing something stupid that will cause you to die.
It is also why Soldiers and Civilians in Combat zones cannot get normal life insurance. Pretty risky career choice.


I give a damn if you pay more or less, you will pay more if your underwriter makes bad Decisions. Writing a policy for a catapult test pilot is a bad move.



But yeah, just calling my rant stupid with absolutely no valid argument works too.

I Still Love ya Stuart!
:D

[Byte Stryke]

Always have a seat belt cutter and a window smasher handy at all times while operating your vechicle.

Erno


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[jmg8550]

Kati Coric on CBS News, said that millions of Ford seatbelts are defective. The SHA blamed a guy for not wearing a seat belt, when his Ford Bronco rolled over and he was ejected and killed. The morgue photo's show a slash cut along his collarbone which proved he was faithfully wearing his seatbelt at the time of the crash.
Turns out, if you have a rollover and the seatbelt goes forward, it does not retract, therefore you just get forced out of restraint and go right out the door or thru the roof during rollover.
I forget the name of the seatbelt company. The newscast was a couple of months ago.

Erno

[PoPo]

I don't know why they are bothering with seatbelts in Ford Broncos when those vehicles haven't been built since I believe 1996 or 1997. I had a Mustang with the same problem. Go to the dealer or find new ones online. A vehicle that old will develop problems. It is the consumers responsibility to make sure the safety features in any vehicle are working properly. I did notice that GM has ANOTHER seatbelt recall. Seems they still can't get it right. Here's an idea, take the seatbelts out of the seats! Bolt them to the floor like everyone else.

[StagLefty]

I Still Love ya Stuart!
:D

Damn I need a kleenex [ROFL1]

[Irving]

Writing a policy for a catapult test pilot is a bad move.



But yeah, just calling my rant stupid with absolutely no valid argument works too.

I Still Love ya Stuart!
:D


No it isn't. You can get insured on anything in the world, if you can afford it. What is the difference between Workers Compensation and Life Insurance? They are not the same, but it is a great example of being able to be insured for doing something dangerous, and it not being stupid, or a bad move.

Insurance covers against sudden, accidental loss. Stupidity is covered.



Just for your mind's health, there are policies that remove certain coverages if you were found to not have been wearing a seat belt. That is a pretty common thing if I remember correctly.

[Byte Stryke]

No it isn't. You can get insured on anything in the world, if you can afford it. What is the difference between Workers Compensation and Life Insurance? They are not the same, but it is a great example of being able to be insured for doing something dangerous, and it not being stupid, or a bad move.

Insurance covers against sudden, accidental loss. Stupidity is covered.



Just for your mind's health, there are policies that remove certain coverages if you were found to not have been wearing a seat belt. That is a pretty common thing if I remember correctly.

a swing and a miss.

[BlasterBob]

Here's an idea, take the seatbelts out of the seats! Bolt them to the floor like everyone else.

Wife and I have been using our seat belts for every time we venture out in the vehicle regardless of destination. Way back in 1961 we used to attend a lot of stock car races in Soldier Field, Chicago and after seeing so many of the stock cars having some serious pile ups and the drivers walking away, we got a set of belts from the old Warshawski store in Chicago and I installed them in our new 1961 Chevy Impalla. Drilled and bolted them right into the floor. Have used seat belts ever since (right at 50 years). Almost makes us some of the earlier pioneers using seat belts long before they were required by law. I do carry a sharp knife to cut our way out just in the unlikely event we ever get trapped in the vehicle by our belts. There are a huge number of serious accidents on I-25 between Pueblo and Trinidad and so damn many of them are from over correcting when the vehicle runs off the shoulder. "Click it or ticket"!

[vietboy1st]

Seatbelt does safe life. I always wear them.. Man that suck to die like that. But i don't know. You can not live forevere, everybody has to die at one point. God bless him.

[BlasterBob]

You can not live forevere, everybody has to die at one point.

Right and I want to go to Heaven but not for quite a while!
I really want to stick around for a while longer to be able to continue bugging my kids.[Tooth]

[intropiles]

ALWAYS wear your seatbelt when driving at highway speeds.

[Driver] [PoPo]