View Full Version : Explosive targets are soooo damn fun
For those of you who like to do some interesting fun thngs every now and then when you go out, I have to recommend explosive targets. I got the chance to shoot some of these today at 150 yards, I still have a smile on my face. It is a compound or mixture or whatever called tannerite. You can go to tannerite.com and check out the already made targets. It was a suprise that no law enforcement peeps came out to see what the hell was going on. Man, was it fun though! I wish I would have brought my camera but my friend didn't tell me that we were going to be doing anything out of the ordinary.
Stuart, if you read this thread, could you go to the website tannerite.com and post the first youtube video that is on the home page of the site for me? Please kind sir? I can't figure out how to do it. [Tooth] Or someone else, you know, either way. Just wanted the video to be easy to be seen.
Not_A_Llama
12-24-2010, 23:44
I'm not Stuart, but:
tisT80ZUllY
next time you go out bring a watermelon/pumpkin cut out a hole the size of the jar, its even more satisfying. [Coffee] also a great way to make a smoothie![ROFL3]jk
theGinsue
12-25-2010, 02:40
BigBear (http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/member.php?u=2820) has been talking about exploding target stuff (I think it was the tannerite) for some time and has offered a few times to share a little with folks. So many times I've wanted to join him and check it out.
Sounds like fun stuff. One of these days....
thats awesome! i remember firing line use to sell small exploding targets to shoot at in their range. Will order some for next years family camping trip
BigBear (http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/member.php?u=2820) has been talking about exploding target stuff (I think it was the tannerite) for some time and has offered a few times to share a little with folks. So many times I've wanted to join him and check it out.
Sounds like fun stuff. One of these days....
I do, I have 1lb and .5lb targets.... When I head out to the range, I usually put up a little blurb on here. I'd love for people to come on out and blow my stuff up. I never use all of it. Take care.
Tannerite is addicting... going back to paper punching just isn't as much fun. I'd really like to go out into BLM land so I can use a 10lb or so at 500+ yards... that would be a HUGE boom...
I do, I have 1lb and .5lb targets.... When I head out to the range, I usually put up a little blurb on here. I'd love for people to come on out and blow my stuff up. I never use all of it. Take care.
Tannerite is addicting... going back to paper punching just isn't as much fun. I'd really like to go out into BLM land so I can use a 10lb or so at 500+ yards... that would be a HUGE boom...
you let me know when you do this, and I will make sure I am a witness!
i remember firing line use to sell small exploding targets to shoot at in their range.
Yet they won't let me shoot my BP pistol there because of "fire hazard". Hypocrites.[Rant2]
you let me know when you do this, and I will make sure I am a witness!
Lol, will do. Need to find an old 10gallon gas can somewhere. Should be big enough. Probably won't happen till April or so though.
Yet they won't let me shoot my BP pistol there because of "fire hazard". Hypocrites.[Rant2]
Apparently there is no fire hazard with tannerite.
I'd pick up some if I had a rifle.
Fun is 6, 1/2 ponders dumped into a Folgers coffee can...:D
CrufflerSteve
12-28-2010, 23:09
I've seen tannerite demo'd but never did it myself until today. I was out at the south site today. It is getting crapped out I have a truck full of carboard boxes and plastic bottles. This was from a place fairly far in.
I wasted too much time with handguns before going to the tannerite. I put the 1/2 pound jar about 150 yards out. I was using a Mosin Nagant 91/30 sniper. It had been zeroed years ago but wasn't anymore. At first the sun was in my eyes and I couldn't see the target then it went down and it got cold. Finally, I used the iron sights and got a fun boom. That is serious stuff.
I'm definitely doing more when it warms up. Group buy? Co-ar15 tannerite shoot?
Steve
I'm definitely doing more when it warms up. Group buy? Co-ar15 tannerite shoot?
Steve
That sounds like fun. Everyone bring some, get a shit load of us out there shootin. Make at least one 10 pound can of the stuff... Wifes in the back cookin up some steak for us... [Coffee]
cfortune
12-29-2010, 01:11
Just got home from Wyoming (was there for the holidays). Buddy of mine has loads of this stuff. He showed me a video of himself shooting a TV that was stuffed with 2 pounds. It looked fun to say the least. Unfortunately with everyone being busy with their families, I didn't get the opportunity to go blow some up on my friend's land.
It is a lot of fun!! Just please be careful of shrapnel and the such if you are packing it into other things (metal coffee cans, TVs as mentioned, etc)... And use some common sense: Don't try shooting a pound, 10 feet in front of you as I had a friend mention to "feel the boom"... cause you'll be feeling a lot more than a boom. There is no fire hazard from Tannerite itself as the chemicals create a water vapor explosion (hence the big white cloud and boom). HOWEVER, depending on what you are packing with, it could be possible to catch stuff on fire from materials/sparks/etc of the packing, so again: Be careful.
Not to be a kill joy, but you can have a lot of fun with standard plastic bottles and stuff. Less to clean up that way as well. Sorry for ranting, a friend was like, "I have an old fridge, and desk, and..." I am not hauling that crap out there, blowin' it up, and then picking up all those pieces. K.I.S.S.
If anyone would like to go out and try it, I'll try to get a date set in late Janurary depending on weather/work schedule/etc. I still have several pounds left over.
Byte Stryke
12-29-2010, 10:39
If anyone would like to go out and try it, I'll try to get a date set in late Janurary depending on weather/work schedule/etc. I still have several pounds left over.
ME!
I'd pick up some if I had a rifle.
You have no rifle? OMG, I'm speechless....I wouldn't know how to act without at least one rifle!
Well I have an iron sighted .22lr. I don't think it fires fast enough to set off Tanerite though.
Troublco
12-29-2010, 12:32
If anyone would like to go out and try it, I'll try to get a date set in late Janurary depending on weather/work schedule/etc. I still have several pounds left over.
Me too, if I can make it.
I'm pretty sure that somewhere in here I saw something that said Stu doesn't own a rifle. That was a joke, right?[ROFL1]
ME!
Rgr, I'll see you around if I get some time off.
Well I have an iron sighted .22lr. I don't think it fires fast enough to set off Tanerite though.
Neg, .22lr does not have enough velocity to set off the reaction needed for the Tannerite. Small caliber/rimfire or slow moving pistol calibers will not set it off. Better to stick with .223/5.56 and higher.
Me too, if I can make it....That was a joke, right?[ROFL1]
Yay, that's be fun Trouble. As far as Stu's comment... not sure. He can always use mine, not the best rifle, but it'll "git 'er dun".
Well I have an iron sighted .22lr.
OK, that counts. At least I don't have to pray for your soul now......
BTW, if you have your appropiate liscnces, (NOT PD letterhead, etc). I can point you in the direction for some plastic (C4 and other grades) and det cords, pyrotechnics, etc.
Byte Stryke
12-29-2010, 14:29
appropriate licenses
You must be at work. Because I know your machine at home has spell check
;)
You must be at work. Because I know your machine at home has spell check
;)
Rgr, I'm at work... darnit... I don't know (or if it even has) how to use spell check on this one... although there are so darn many filters that maybe the spellcheck is blocked!!!
License, liscense, etc... You knew what I meant, lol. [Beer]
(same goes for appropiate...errr....)
Being over here on the western slope sucks...
Stuart, I almost feel bad enough for you (just the 22lr) to give you one of my own... almost. [Tooth] Maybe if you put that thing in a plastic bag and bury it, it will grow or something!
Put it under your pillow, maybe the rifle fairy will trade it out for a bigger one! Just make sure to tell your wife about the rifle fairy you know, since everyone knows the mothers are always the tooth fairy's. Play her like my kids play my wife "but mommy, why does the tooth fairy only give me quaters, I wish one day she would give me a dollar or something, these things hurt when you pull them out..." low and behold, the next morning, a dollar! Just try it for shits and giggles. [ROFL1]
I'll get one when I can. I already don't get out to shoot my other guns enough as it is. No sense in breaking the bank for a rifle that I'll also never shoot.
Spyder, I did once have someone tell me almost the same thing on an NFA board when everyone found out that I still don't have a suppressor either.
I'll get one when I can. I already don't get out to shoot my other guns enough as it is. No sense in breaking the bank for a rifle that I'll also never shoot.
Stu, you can come shoot mine anytime. I'm just waiting for time off work and some money so I can go:
edit... never mind. Had a pick of a tannerite tower I have but can't seem to post it... stupid computer crap... Why can't we just copy/paste. I don't want to go through photobucket or facebook or blah blah blah...
Wolfhound
01-04-2011, 20:18
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Star-Exploding-Targets/708663.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3D searchForm%26N%3D0%26fsch%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3DAllProduc ts%26Ntt%3Dexploding%2Btargets%26x%3D0%26y%3D0%26W Tz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%2BProducts&Ntt=exploding+targets&WTz_l=Header;Search-All%20Products
newracer
01-04-2011, 20:20
I just picked some up from Joe Bob Outfitters, cant wait to shoot them.
Byte Stryke
01-04-2011, 20:35
edit... never mind. Had a pick of a tannerite tower I have but can't seem to post it... stupid computer crap... Why can't we just copy/paste. I don't want to go through photobucket or facebook or blah blah blah...
I Really should start charging for this
http://www.bsdgames.com/Tex/Web/tannerite.jpg
Thanks for the offer Bear.
ronaldrwl
01-04-2011, 22:29
Watermelons are fun also. We like to Utramag them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UImOIE3pBcc
Troublco
01-04-2011, 23:01
Heck, I enjoy just shooting iron plates. Just hearing the "clang" is good, especially since you don't have to go put up new ones when you get tired of counting holes. But exploding stuff is better. I once had the opportunity to shoot some reactive targets AND demil some old fire extinguishers at the same time...fun and saved us taxpayers some money.
Stu, if you're not working AND I can make it whatever day Bear decides to do this you're welcome to ride down with me. I'll even throw an extra rifle in the truck for you to shoot.
Byte Stryke
01-05-2011, 00:01
I've done extensive research into it (years ago).
Tannerite claims it is legal in all fifty states if you mix it on location. It is not. In colorado, Binary explosives are illegal. I really poured through statues to verify their claims, so I'm not parroting. I've read it myself, I don't really want to try to find it again right now. Our statues were written with liquid explosives in mind, but as they are written, they would apply to tannerite. Now, it being technically illegal in CO doesn't mean you will get arrested or prosecuted for it. With as widespread as it is you are probably ok.
Tannerite is basically an ammonium nitrate + aluminum blend, with small amounts of (I forget what it is, zinc based I think) to encourage more flash although it isn't a critical component. The energy of the projectile hitting it does not matter quite as much as the shape. You need something similar to a boat-tail to drive the particles together the right way to get it to detonate. There are some custom mixes for rimfire and what not that are a little easier to set off. It is possible to make it yourself, no, I will not tell you how. Properly mixed it should have a detonation velocity of around 7,000 FPS if memory serves. That is a lot less than things like C4, but it still classes it as a high explosive. If you're an idiot, it can hurt you, but I'm sure you know that already.
Oh lastly, it's not an exp. that works well "en mass". If you put say twenty pounds of it together you're going to be disappointed, because its not going to be even close to 4x as large of an explosion compared to a single pound. Not sure what the optimal weight is, probably depends on what exact round you are throwing at it. It isn't much though.
Better safe than sorry
I am going to have to cancel
newracer
01-05-2011, 08:04
I recently contacted CDLE OPS Explosive Division and I was told Tannerite and the like did not require a permit for personal use. Maybe that has changed.
I Really should start charging for this
"Check's in the mail..." Ha. I just need to learn how to do it I guess. The pics are always too big to attach it seems.
Thanks for the offer Bear.
It's what I do.
..........
Oh lastly, it's not an exp. that works well "en mass". If you put say twenty pounds of it together you're going to be disappointed, because its not going to be even close to 4x as large of an explosion compared to a single pound. Not sure what the optimal weight is, probably depends on what exact round you are throwing at it. It isn't much though.
Takin' all the fun out of this man. I've never had a problem with anyone including local PD here, in TX, or in TN when firing this stuff off and that HAS been with PD and other alphabets present. I do disagree with your last paragraph though. A 5lb mix IS a lot bigger/louder than 1lb mixed. Maybe not mathematically 5 times bigger or whatever, but it definitely is a bigger boom and more cloud.
Found it:
Source: Explosive Regulations from the Colorado Division of Oil and Public Safety
And here is your problem: http://www.tannerite.com/binary-exploding-target-patent/...
Still a party pooper! I'll keep playing with it. [Beer]
...
Short version is that at the Federal level that are restrictions on the civilian detonation of materials in excess of 4oz. This means that those 1/2 pounders that you're popping off could be construed as violations of current BATFE regulations. I can't quote chapter and verse, but I'll see if I can contact the EOD gents that were discussing this to get further details.
Anyother partypoopers out there?! BOOOO.
I recently contacted CDLE OPS Explosive Division and I was told Tannerite and the like did not require a permit for personal use. Maybe that has changed.
Tannerite does not, other explosives yes.
Someone did mention it (Foxtrot I think) but it is possible to make it yourself at home... however, doing that is dangerous if you don't know what you're doing and it can be illegal depending on the way you procur and mix your chemicals... Anyways, y'all have fun - I'm still gonna use 'em and have some fun. Peace!
[Swim][Beer]
BPTactical
01-05-2011, 17:14
I'd pick up some if I had a rifle.
Well there is one "Man Card" revoked[Muaha]
I think a group shoot when the weather allows is a great idea!
Byte Stryke
01-05-2011, 17:38
Well there is one "Man Card" revoked[Muaha]
I think a group shoot when the weather allows is a great idea!
Take my Man Card too.
All I need is someone like OneGuy67 ( ;) ) dragging me in for an explosives charge.
BPTactical
01-05-2011, 17:58
Take my Man Card too.
All I need is someone like OneGuy67 ( ;) ) dragging me in for an explosives charge.
I wasnt aware you had one Guy[ROFL1][ROFL2][ROFL3]
StagLefty
01-05-2011, 20:39
Shooting Gallery had "Boomer Shoot" tonight-long distance exploding targets in Idaho. Pretty cool show and some really expensive set ups including long distance pistols. Anyone else see it on the Outdoor Channel ?
Thanks for the offer Trouble, but I am working, and have virtually zero free time now.
Bear, better go out and destroy all that evidence!
Troublco
01-05-2011, 22:57
Probably better that you're working. I'm spending a lot of my free time trying to make sure that I keep working.
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