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brokenscout
12-25-2010, 05:13
Are there any Wolves in Colorado?

Marlin
12-25-2010, 06:27
Officially?

brokenscout
12-25-2010, 08:27
It was dow south in the mountains ,not far from the NM border.

Marlin
12-25-2010, 09:28
Down that way, Possible.. Mexican wolves have been know to wander up into New Mexico and Arizona..

Colorado Osprey
12-25-2010, 10:34
In 1986 I was riding my horse on the south side of the Air Force Academy and came over a ridge and saw a whole pack.

I called the DOW and they stated that there were no Wolves in Colorado and they must be cross-bred with dogs so they aren't technically wolves.

Last year the DOW publicly stated that there were wolves around the Air Force Academy.

I have seen packs in different areas in the state over the last 25 years since.

So yes they are around, but generally not anywhere near where people are.

hawk1
12-25-2010, 10:39
I thought I saw some this year while hunting down in the San Juans. A DOW Ranger told us that "OFFICALLY" they can't say there are wolves in Colorado until there is sustainable, self-reproducing population. So, read inbetween those lines! He said the same thing for grizzly bears! WTF?!

cstone
12-25-2010, 10:42
Down that way, Possible.. Mexican wolves have been know to wander up into New Mexico and Arizona..

"Mexican wolves?" I thought they were coyotes. The kind that smuggle undocumented workers to the big PX up north.

Marlin
12-25-2010, 11:03
"Mexican wolves?" I thought they were coyotes. The kind that smuggle undocumented workers to the big PX up north.

;)

No, there is actually a sub-species known as the Mexican wolf. Smaller than a Grey, but large enough it "shouldn't" be mistaken for a 'yote. though it does happen from time to time..

sniper7
12-25-2010, 12:42
there have been 2 known wolves in colorado from what I have read, most of which traveled down from montana and/or wyoming.

both females that separated from their packs. years apart though, not at the same time.

one was hit by a car. I think the other one was found dead as well, can't remember.

I don't want them in colorado. our elk population would be thinned quickly, just as it has been in montana and starting to in wyoming. ranchers and farmers are the ones we need to fight it...as they will have the most to lose.

a wolf in colorado would be considered and mistaken for a coyote, and should be shot.

brokenscout
12-25-2010, 14:01
If they aren't supose to be here , gues I won't get in trouble for shooting one

DSB OUTDOORS
12-26-2010, 19:54
I have talked to 2 different residence behind Blackhawk where I Bow hunt and they have seen AKA Wolf's up there one had pics. Large blackish hides I'd say about 110lbs - 125lbs ?? I have a Wolf / Boxer Hybrid I got from the Wolf Santury out side of Boulder and she is about 90-95lbs now.

steveopia
12-26-2010, 20:10
I have talked to 2 different residence behind Blackhawk where I Bow hunt and they have seen AKA Wolf's up there one had pics. Large blackish hides I'd say about 110lbs - 125lbs ?? I have a Wolf / Boxer Hybrid I got from the Wolf Santury out side of Boulder and she is about 90-95lbs now.

Wolf/Boxer mix? That sounds kind of neat. Do you have any pics?

glock21
12-26-2010, 20:53
[quote=sniper7;277111]there have been 2 known wolves in colorado from what I have read, most of which traveled down from montana and/or wyoming.

both females that separated from their packs. years apart though, not at the same time.

one was hit by a car. I think the other one was found dead as well, can't remember.



yea i remember that. it was hit and found on I-70. they said it might have came from yellowstone and that soon other wolves would follow thew trail here

DSB OUTDOORS
12-26-2010, 20:59
Wolf/Boxer mix? That sounds kind of neat. Do you have any pics?
I can't get the pics to paste into this. I can e-mail pic's if you want? She has a longer nose and a longer tail. The father was the Boxer and mother a Timber Wolf, has a white patch on her chest tan coat.

Half Live
12-26-2010, 22:39
I have talked to 2 different residence behind Blackhawk where I Bow hunt and they have seen AKA Wolf's up there one had pics. Large blackish hides I'd say about 110lbs - 125lbs ?? I have a Wolf / Boxer Hybrid I got from the Wolf Santury out side of Boulder and she is about 90-95lbs now.

Sounds like a cool looking dog. When I was younger my family had 2 wolf/huskie mix dogs

CapLock
12-27-2010, 14:57
Id like to smack 125 lb black coyote while calling. Would Dow even care? Would you report it?

Bill
12-27-2010, 15:33
Do not shoot them in Colorado they are still protected. We have two sub-species of Gray's one is large and coming down from the North and the small ones coming up from the south. So unless you are in danger do not shoot them, they are protect still in Colorado and the state and fed Dow will fine you big time and then lock you up.

If it was up to me I would kill all the 100-150lb wolves (second largest in the world) that have come down from Yellow stone they have are not true wolf they have 2-3% domestic in them. They do not fit in are eco system ,but I would leave the small one 45-75lb Mexican blue wolves alone they fit the eco system.

If it was up to me there would be no Hybrid wolves, why have a dog that you can't fully trust.

brokenscout
12-27-2010, 15:55
I figure if there not bothering me,no worries. On the other hand I have a mountain lion that keeps killing deer, rabbits and whatever else it can within 25-100 yards of my house. The DOW just told me to shoot it.

spittoon
01-26-2011, 13:44
If they aren't supose to be here , gues I won't get in trouble for shooting one
i would not shoot one you know they would give you a 20 point ticket and take your hunting away for 5 years even though there is no wolves

henpecked
01-26-2011, 15:39
From the Colorado DOW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO2ziXPU0ks

North Park / Walden area

GhostRider
01-26-2011, 16:30
sorry guys but I don't share the same feeling you have to shoot wolves. They belong here just as anything else does, I grew up around sheep and cattle ranches in Utah and been around them here and we have never had a problem with wolves. They are a beautiful animal just like any elk or deer, They have been here for awhile, I have seen them as far back as 1991, I don't believe they do all the harm that they get the credit for, and I don't believe our elk herds have suffered for it. Our elk herds have suffered more for the illegal hunting and poaching in the area. I wouldn't go out to shoot one anymore than I would a deer or elk without a tag, Don't get me wrong, if one was threatening me, well then its going down, but I'm not going out looking to kill one over some story that they kill ranch animals.

brokenscout
01-26-2011, 22:16
I'm more worried about coyotes than wolves.

sniper7
01-27-2011, 11:03
i would not shoot one you know they would give you a 20 point ticket and take your hunting away for 5 years even though there is no wolves


what if you are varmint hunting. you are shooting coyotes and one of these come in.


http://wildlife.state.co.us/WildlifeSpecies/SpeciesOfConcern/Mammals/GrayWolf.htm

right there it says gray wolves were eradicated from colorado and are not believed to exist in the state, only to call if you "think" you see a wolf.

http://ecos.fws.gov/speciesProfile/profile/speciesProfile.action?spcode=A00D

FWS is saying the gray wolf i endangered. although, they are hunted, were allowed to be hunted a year or two in wyoming. ranchers can shoot them to protect cattle. I would think a truly endangered species would be protected, then the rancher compensated.

http://wildlife.state.co.us/Education/TeacherResources/ColoradoWildlifeCompany/LivingCWCS04.htm

right here they say wolves resemble dogs. as do coyotes.


I come to the conclusion that wolves do not exist in colorado, yet they look and act like dogs, could easily be confused with a coyote and there is nothing I have read that says they can not be shot as a varmint since they do not exist in colorado.

Bill
01-27-2011, 13:09
sorry guys but I don't share the same feeling you have to shoot wolves. They belong here just as anything else does, I grew up around sheep and cattle ranches in Utah and been around them here and we have never had a problem with wolves. They are a beautiful animal just like any elk or deer, They have been here for awhile, I have seen them as far back as 1991, I don't believe they do all the harm that they get the credit for, and I don't believe our elk herds have suffered for it. Our elk herds have suffered more for the illegal hunting and poaching in the area. I wouldn't go out to shoot one anymore than I would a deer or elk without a tag, Don't get me wrong, if one was threatening me, well then its going down, but I'm not going out looking to kill one over some story that they kill ranch animals.


You know that the Native sub-species of wolves you remember from 1991 to 1994-5 are no longer around the larger sub-species/Hybrid wolves they put up in Yellowstone Killed them all off. They are the problem makers.

If it was up to the people that have to live with them( the new Yellowstone wolves) they would wipe them all out. They need no story becuase they know first hand.

rondog
01-27-2011, 13:29
Just be sure to take a shovel with you.....

henpecked
01-27-2011, 13:34
shoot
shovel
shut up

jreifsch80
01-28-2011, 12:51
yesterday i was driving back from nebraska on hwy 71 i was right about on the border of nebraska and colorado (south of kimball) just barely in colorado and sure enough i saw what looked like a biiig dog cross the road a ways in front of me it stoped on the left shoulder and stared at me, i had slowed down quite a bit to get a look and it definitely appeared to be one of those big yellowstone grey wolves. it's not uncommon for them to sneak over to the wildcat hills (up near scottsbluff in nebraska) but the colorado border is another 50 or so miles south of that so i thought it was a bit strange. up in nebraska the complain about cougars sneaking up to the wildcat hills from colorado and wyoming. just thought it was interesting. most likely it was someone's wolf mix dog that ran away but it also isn't a stretch if it really were a wolf from yellowstone.

sniper7
01-29-2011, 00:35
yesterday i was driving back from nebraska on hwy 71 i was right about on the border of nebraska and colorado (south of kimball) just barely in colorado and sure enough i saw what looked like a biiig dog cross the road a ways in front of me it stoped on the left shoulder and stared at me, i had slowed down quite a bit to get a look and it definitely appeared to be one of those big yellowstone grey wolves. it's not uncommon for them to sneak over to the wildcat hills (up near scottsbluff in nebraska) but the colorado border is another 50 or so miles south of that so i thought it was a bit strange. up in nebraska the complain about cougars sneaking up to the wildcat hills from colorado and wyoming. just thought it was interesting. most likely it was someone's wolf mix dog that ran away but it also isn't a stretch if it really were a wolf from yellowstone.

should have shot it for confirmation.

LippCJ7
01-31-2011, 00:58
Here is a picture my Daughter took of a wolf we saw in Yellowstone 6 years ago, thought you might find it interesting, you can get a good gauge as to how big they are.

ronaldrwl
01-31-2011, 09:18
I seen coyotes so big they look like wolves. The coyotes in California are so tiny compared to ours. When I first saw them in Colorado I thought they were wolves.

Colby
01-31-2011, 12:27
The one that was hit by a car was just about 9 miles east of me here in Eagle. There are wolves in CO, but not in large enough numbers to be a considered a population. I have also heard some very credible reports of Wolverine's and Grizzly's up in the Flattops Wilderness area. That is some big country and there are parts of it that never see a human. I've also heard one report of Bigfoot, but thats a story for another time:)

henpecked,
The 3 S's are a very popular bumper sticker and somewhat of a policy in MT.

I'm fine with Wolves being part of the ecosystem, but like all animals they need to be managed. I agree that they should not be poached, no animals should. If you did shoot one while Coyote hunting, I'm sure they would go easy on you if you truly thought it was a Coyote when you pulled the trigger, if you thought it might be a Wolf and the DOW got a sense of that, I think you better be ready for trouble. If I were out Coyote hunting and shot one, I would call the DOW immediately, I would not SSS, honesty is always the best policy when dealing with law enforcement and a lie could snowball quickly.

Colby
01-31-2011, 12:30
Here is a great article from Bugle magazine last fall that explains a lot about the hunting and management aspects of Wolves.

http://www.rmef.org/NR/rdonlyres/47852A73-0EC4-40E3-BE29-479A8671D7EB/0/WolvesSO10.pdf

buffalobo
02-01-2011, 14:59
We may not officially have wolves in Colorado right now but we will in the future. Am not a fan of the Canadian grey wolf. It is not the native wolf that once existed in Colorado. I believe they will have negative effect on the eco-system and will cause more harm than good.

Info concerning "sport" killing by wolves.


http://www.mtmultipleuse.org/endangered/wolf_pics.htm

As usual, do your own research and make up your own mind.