View Full Version : I want to sell, but I need yalls help...
Ryan_Th3_K1d
12-27-2010, 00:39
I recently acquired a like new handgun from my uncle who thought he lost it or his ex gf stole it. Either way he's a felon and shouldn't have had it, so he gave it to our family as a gift. And my dad wants me to sell it, but it's possible it could be stolen (because my uncle received it as payment for some mechanic work on a vehicle) and I'm wondering where to call to find that information out. My uncle just moved from Texas, and I couldn't find anything on the web. It's too late to call anywhere tonight. So if any of you guys have any suggestions on who to call or if I'm just being paranoid. Any help is appreciated.
JohnTRourke
12-27-2010, 06:58
local PD can do it.
theGinsue
12-27-2010, 08:11
Definitely check it out with the local PD. It's better to be safe than to be found with a stolen firearm later!
steveopia
12-27-2010, 09:12
local PD can do it.
Definitely check it out with the local PD. It's better to be safe than to be found with a stolen firearm later!
X3. Better safe than sorry.
Sounds like a can of worms. The PD will want answers if it is indeed stolen. Involving family could get nasty. Better to CYA though.
HBARleatherneck
12-27-2010, 10:14
if you have a stolen firearm. the pd will take it and want answers, thats for sure. so then you can lie to the cops, or rat out your relative. i would probably just keep it and forget about it, or destroy it if you feel bad. just because he is or was a criminal, doesnt mean the person who paid him with it was a criminal. and even if he was a criminal, it doesnt mean the gun was stolen.
how will it impact you if you keep it? if it is stolen, who would find out? if you commited a crime and they found out it was stolen, what would make them think you knew it was stolen or that you stole it? just askin.
sample conversation between you and the pd.
Yes mr thekid, the gun is stolen. so how did you get it? did you steal it? if not, where did you get it? we have ways of making you talk.
no mr thekid, the gun is not stolen. so why did you think it was? did you get this gun from your criminal phohibited person uncle? if so, we will confiscate it and call you as a witness when we prosecute your uncle.
Ryan_Th3_K1d
12-27-2010, 10:33
yeah, I wasn't going to give out any info about the gun (except the serial number) or myself when talking with the cops. If I was going to keep it I wouldn't care, but I'm looking to sell it soon. Would the Colorado PD have the info on it because it came from Texas? Is there a National Stolen Firearms database?
simply talking to the police does not put you under oath.
they are allowed under the law to lie as part of their job.
give them the serial number, not the gun, and tell you found it in a boating accident.
if it were my gun I hope that someone would help me get it back.
Daniel_187
12-27-2010, 10:49
Tell pops to keep it, I would love it if someone just up and gave me a pistol, rifle, shotgun, plasma rifle in a 40 watt range. Depending on what kind it is what's the max your going to get for it? KEEP IT
Possession is 9/10ths of the law. CYA and toss the piece in Grand Lake!
newracer
12-27-2010, 10:55
Sounds like a perfect drop gun, keep it.
Ryan_Th3_K1d
12-27-2010, 10:55
if it were my gun I hope that someone would help me get it back.
yeah, that's what I keep coming back to...if I had a gun stolen I would like it if someone returned it to me. you know the whole golden rule and stuff
HBARleatherneck
12-27-2010, 10:57
is it chrome plated? raven, jennings, bryco, davis? toss it in the lake.
trlcavscout
12-27-2010, 10:59
simply talking to the police does not put you under oath.
they are allowed under the law to lie as part of their job.
give them the serial number, not the gun, and tell you found it in a boating accident.
if it were my gun I hope that someone would help me get it back.
This! They do lie, and they cant tell their ass from a hole in the ground so I have doubts local pd could tell you anything. But it would be nice to get it back to the original owner if it is. Also by now some dumb ass at the atf has probably gotten lucky on a google search and is following this thread looking for some one abusing potatoe chips, if it was the DEA he would have shot him self in the foot. Heres a thread from a couple years ago with a quick search.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=stolen+gun+in+colorado&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
Ryan_Th3_K1d
12-27-2010, 11:02
is it chrome plated? raven, jennings, bryco, davis? toss it in the lake.
lol...it's a Stainless Steel Taurus, so nothing to expensive
I guess the officer running the check could face consequences if it is stolen and not recovered, so expect some pressure if it is stolen.
Ryan_Th3_K1d
12-27-2010, 11:14
huh...guess I never thought of that. I'm having someone run it right now, so we'll see how it turns out *fingers crossed*
GhostRider
12-27-2010, 11:37
had a similar situation, just told the cop that I had come in to possession of one that I had doubts about and wanted to check it out, if it came back stolen it was his to take and do what ever with, but just wanted to easy my suspicions. He ran it and thanked me for checking. I know this is not always going to be the reaction, but I told him that I received it in a trade and now suspected it because the guy just didn't seem right after I had been thinking about it. That ended all the questions about where I had gotten it. Hope it turns out just as well for you.
Scanker19
12-27-2010, 11:54
My dad had a Colt 1991 stolen from him about 10+ years ago. After he died I called the Albuquerque PD to see if they had any info on it's dispostion. They wouldn't tell me anything over the phone, they want me to go there and they will send out an officer to run the SN.
I just wanted to see which one of my shit head friends stole it.
Just file the serial #s off. Problem solved.
Yes, I am kidding.
I had a question about a gun I had bought one time, i called the PD from a pay phone (before cells were common) and they ran a check, it was clean, no big deal.
If they would have said its stolen where are you bring us the gun, i could have just hung up the pay phone and walked off.
They did not ask for my name or anything when i called to have the serial # checked.
I would say for anyone else wanting to do this, just call from a pay phone like I did and if they want personal info from you can always hang up and no issue.
If it was stolen from another state its a better chanec the PD will have it destroyed then returned if you give it to them.
I can tell you where a couple pay phones are in Thornton.
StagLefty
12-27-2010, 15:45
what is this "pay phone" you speak of ? [ROFL1]
what is this "pay phone" you speak of ? [ROFL1]
you know, those things in the soda fountain.
Though I got a killer deal on a 1911 colt when I was in high school. Kid said the gun was given to him by family and mom wouldn't let him keep it. I gave him 200 bucks for it. Got to keep it for a couple weeks. Shot WAY better than the lama I had. Found out from a friend that a guy in town had a colt stolen. Left it in an unlocked truck overnight. I showed up at his house and asked if he did lost a colt. He said yes. I then asked if he had the serial number to which he looked sick and said no. He described it down to the T. That's when I probably looked sick and handed him the gun over. Told him the kids name and where to find him. Then to my shock the guy said wait here and came back to his door with 200 dollars for me. There is a 4 inch 686 smith I hope finds its way home someday.
StagLefty
12-27-2010, 17:34
you know, those things in the soda fountain.
By the notions ? [ROFL1]
all you have to do is call the local PD and tell them you are looking at purchasing a gun from a guy who is selling it and want to make sure it is not stolen. they run the serial number, it comes back one way or the other and if it is indeed stolen tell them you will not be purchasing the gun.
Though I got a killer deal on a 1911 colt when I was in high school. Kid said the gun was given to him by family and mom wouldn't let him keep it. I gave him 200 bucks for it. Got to keep it for a couple weeks. Shot WAY better than the lama I had. Found out from a friend that a guy in town had a colt stolen. Left it in an unlocked truck overnight. I showed up at his house and asked if he did lost a colt. He said yes. I then asked if he had the serial number to which he looked sick and said no. He described it down to the T. That's when I probably looked sick and handed him the gun over. Told him the kids name and where to find him. Then to my shock the guy said wait here and came back to his door with 200 dollars for me. There is a 4 inch 686 smith I hope finds its way home someday.
cool that the guy gave you the money you would have been out.
I would have beat the hell out of the kid that sold it to me.
DSB OUTDOORS
12-27-2010, 19:27
I have a friend who is a Jeffco Sherriff I'll call him and see what he recomends.
JohnTRourke
12-27-2010, 19:35
By the notions ? [ROFL1]
do you know what notions are?
It's a specific term for things for sewing. (bobbins, thread, needles, etc)
If you go into a drugstore and ask for notions, that's where they will send you.
but there's probably no pay phone.
StagLefty
12-27-2010, 19:47
Thanks for asking. Yes I know what notions are. It was a play on the pay phone comment since both are getting to be old day terms. [Beer]
I feel like if I walked into a drug store and started asking for "notions," they'd probably call the police on me.
I am craving a strawberry phosphate though.
theGinsue
12-27-2010, 20:31
I'm having someone run it right now, so we'll see how it turns out *fingers crossed*
And.....?
What's the answer? I've been waiting since a quarter after 10 to hear the status of this thing.
Ryan_Th3_K1d
12-27-2010, 21:16
The guy didn't get around to running it today....so, I'll probably call someone or take the slide in to the local PD tomorrow
Can't you just write the number on a piece of paper instead of bringing the whole gun in? That'd look better for your "I'm planning on buying story."
BPTactical
12-27-2010, 22:17
do you know what notions are?
It's a specific term for things for sewing. (bobbins, thread, needles, etc)
If you go into a drugstore and ask for notions, that's where they will send you.
but there's probably no pay phone.
Drugstore hell, a Woolsworth 5 & Dime has it all! It's right next to the drive in and Shakeys Pizza.
Ryan_Th3_K1d
12-27-2010, 22:47
Can't you just write the number on a piece of paper instead of bringing the whole gun in? That'd look better for your "I'm planning on buying story."
good point, I'll probably go that route. I'll let ya know how it turns out.
I feel like if I walked into a drug store and started asking for "notions," they'd probably call the police on me.
I am craving a strawberry phosphate though.
that's awesome. [Beer]
argonstrom
12-27-2010, 22:54
It's right next to the drive in and Shakeys Pizza.
Dammit! I remember Shakeys right next to Bronco Burgers on S. Broadway!
theGinsue
12-27-2010, 23:06
Drugstore hell, a Woolsworth 5 & Dime has it all! It's right next to the drive in and Shakeys Pizza.
I remember all of those places. I particularly remember going to Shakey's Pizza in Kansas City, MO (by Grandview, MO)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/23/25502608_57d6bf2a07.jpg-
watching the pizza's get put together and baked, selecting songs on the table jukebox
http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/5e/95/18/table-jukebox.jpg
watching Laurel & Hardy and other B&W (often silent) movies on their movie screens, and playing air hockey with my brother and dad. They had really good pizza too!
Troublco
12-27-2010, 23:08
Dang, there's a bunch of old guys on this forum.
What the heck am I doing here?!?!?!?[ROFL1]
theGinsue
12-27-2010, 23:11
reminiscing with other folks YOUR own age!
[Coffee]
Dammit! I remember Shakeys right next to Bronco Burgers on S. Broadway!
This..
StagLefty
12-28-2010, 08:01
Dang, there's a bunch of old guys on this forum.
What the heck am I doing here?!?!?!?[ROFL1]
Catching up to us !! [Coffee]
Ryan_Th3_K1d
12-28-2010, 17:51
So I went in to a Police Station today and told them I had a firearm that I was unsure of its past and wanted to make sure it wasn't stolen. And the guy ran it and it came back clean [Beer]
theGinsue
12-28-2010, 18:14
Great news. Now you just have to figure out how much you want to sell it for.
hurley842002
12-28-2010, 19:13
Good to hear, good luck with your sale, once you decide to sell it that is.
DSB OUTDOORS
12-28-2010, 21:14
Cool man!! My Jeffco buddy was out of town anyway. Good luck.
SA Friday
12-29-2010, 02:23
yeah, I wasn't going to give out any info about the gun (except the serial number) or myself when talking with the cops. If I was going to keep it I wouldn't care, but I'm looking to sell it soon. Would the Colorado PD have the info on it because it came from Texas? Is there a National Stolen Firearms database?
NCIC. National crime information center. If the serial number is listed in it as stolen then a simple database search will show that. If the gun was used in the commission of a crime, well, they obviously don't know the serial number of the gun used but they may have cataloged the bullet or a spent case in NIBIN. So, it's not stolen, but it could still have a body attached to it. Probably not, but just sayin...
Wouldn't a new barrel take care of that?
Wouldn't a new barrel take care of that?
[Peep]
Good point. New barrel AND firing pin.
So I went in to a Police Station today...came back clean [Beer]
...If the gun was used in the commission of a crime, well, they obviously don't know the serial number of the gun used but they may have cataloged the bullet or a spent case in NIBIN. So, it's not stolen, but it could still have a body attached to it....but just sayin...
Cop: "No Sir, the evil assault sniper pistol is totally legit! Have a good day!"
Cop #2: "You want a tail on him Capt'n?"
Cop: "You betcha, follow him 24/7!! Let's get this scum bag!"
HAHAHA. Just kidding. [Beer]
SA Friday
12-29-2010, 19:16
Wouldn't a new barrel take care of that?
For the bullet, yes. Look up striation pattern matching in firearms.
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