View Full Version : how about this loser politician, do as i say not as i do.
HBARleatherneck
12-27-2010, 21:31
she wants you to follow laws that she doesnt follow. her 3 year old grandson, other grandson and son not buckled up, but she lobbied to have us common folk to be pulled over for not wearing seatbelts. she was probably texting or talking to dikenpooper or osama.
http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=172038&catid=339
State Senator Suzanne Williams involved in crash that killed pregnant woman
CHANNING, Tex. - Colorado State Sen. Suzanne Williams (D-Aurora) was injured in a head-on crash Sunday in Texas. The passenger in the other car died.
The Texas Department of Public Safety (TDPS) says Williams' Honda CRV veered into on-coming traffic for an unknown reason.
Authorities say the crash killed a pregnant woman in the other car. The woman's baby was delivered by C-section and is currently in critical condition at a local hospital.
TDPS says the driver of the other car tried to avoid the collision that happened at about 6:30 p.m. 5 miles south of Channing, Tex., which is near Amarillo.
"It's a tragedy that I now have a personal experience with a highway accident," Williams told 9NEWS over the phone from Texas. "It's been very traumatic."
She also says she didn't remember much of the crash.
Investigators say Williams was wearing a seatbelt. Her son and her oldest grandson were not wearing their seatbelts and were ejected from the car. Williams' other grandson, a 3-year-old, was also not wearing a seatbelt, but was not ejected.
Williams is on the Colorado Senate's Transportation Committee and has pushed for legislation giving police officers authority to pull drivers over for not wearing seatbelts. Right now, not wearing a seatbelt is a secondary offense in Colorado.
All occupants of the other car were wearing seatbelts.
It is unclear if any charges will be filed in connection to the crash.
"Loser" politician is a lot nicer than what I was thinking of calling her.
she wants you to follow laws that she doesnt follow.
That also applies to how Liberals view gun control laws. They don't want other people to own guns, but of course they all own one.
"It's a tragedy that I now have a personal experience with a highway accident," Williams told 9NEWS over the phone from Texas. "It's been very traumatic."
One innocent woman dead at her hand, baby delivered via emergency C-section is critical, two of her own grandchildren ejected from her vehicle . . . yet all she can think about is herself.
She oughta be tarred and feathered.
theGinsue
12-27-2010, 23:22
Just heard on the news that there is an investigation ongoing, but as of yet, no charges have been filed.
Is anyone here surprised by that? I'm not.
She will use this accident for her cause. She will say something like "I wish the government of Texas would have told me to buckle my grandsons. We need the government to save the children."
I haven't heard her yet apologize for losing control of her vehicle and killing another human being.
This is the key statement, note the tragedy happened to her, not the person she killed. Typical liberal.
"It's a tragedy that I now have a personal experience with a highway accident," Williams told 9NEWS over the phone from Texas. "It's been very traumatic."
I hope they throw the book at her and lock her up for a long time.
BPTactical
12-28-2010, 15:22
Sickening Irony-
She was one of the State Legislators that was pushing to have NOT wearing a seatbelt a primary offense that you could be pulled over for.
Frickin two faced hypocratic wench.
ChadAmberg
12-28-2010, 15:27
An update says that the woman killed was a relative of another Colorado politician. That Senator is a Republican. Going to be awful uncomfortable in the state house next session...
If the parties were reversed, I'm sure the headline would have been "Republican murders poor Democrat family members" and "Since the victim had a hispanic last name, this is obvious racism from the Republicans..."
Byte Stryke
12-28-2010, 15:41
I Hate to get into the whole seatbelt thing again, But I think we can all agree that CHILDREN, being too young to decide for themselves, should be mandated by law to be buckled in.
Death or injury of a child NOT Buckled in is criminal negligence at a minimum if not outright child abuse. For all of the reasons we dont let our children play with Razor blades, Bleach, Drano or (real) explosives.
For all of the reasons we dont let our children play with Razor blades, Bleach, Drano or (real) explosives.
Are you saying that I should take back that cap gun I bought my daughter today that likes to occasionally catch fire?
Byte Stryke
12-28-2010, 15:53
Are you saying that I should take back that cap gun I bought my daughter today that likes to occasionally catch fire?
Might be something to consider
It really is your decision though
As a parent and a free-thinking adult it is your decision and responsibility.
As such I am sure that if there were an incident for which you knowingly might have prevented that resulted in loss of life or property, you would accept the responsibility.
theGinsue
12-28-2010, 17:38
I Hate to get into the whole seatbelt thing again, But I think we can all agree that CHILDREN, being too young to decide for themselves, should be mandated by law to be buckled in.
Death or injury of a child NOT Buckled in is criminal negligence at a minimum if not outright child abuse. For all of the reasons we dont let our children play with Razor blades, Bleach, Drano or (real) explosives.
This is EXACTLY the position I've always had on seatbelt laws. But, you left out the part that once a person turns 18, there should be no legislative requirements...if they're dumb enough to not wear a seat belt, it's just more chlorine for the gene pool.
Stuart - as far as teh cap gun and the 30% or so of caps that fail to ignite in the gun, just do as my friends and I did when we were kids...use a rock with a pointed edge to smash those caps to make 'em pop. No sense in wasting a perfectly good cap. (Just so long as you don't bust it in my @$$.)
Already beat you to it Ginsue.
Byte Stryke, I'm ahead of you on the responsibility as well. I already canceled my life insurance AND my renters insurance. If I burn down the whole building in a freak cap gun accident, I wouldn't want to inconvenience anyone with higher insurance rates. :p
Zundfolge
12-28-2010, 20:12
I still contend that government officials should be held to a HIGHER standard than the general public in that if you break the law you should not only have to face the same punishment everyone else does (which even that they often escape by pulling strings behind the scenes) but you should also be fired from your position and charged with the crime of "dereliction of duty".
If you're going to place yourself in the position where you can write laws the proles must obey than you should be willing to go above and beyond and follow the law even better than the average person.
gnihcraes
12-28-2010, 20:25
I find it interesting too, after buckling my kids in child seats, and booster seats for the last 10 years, they will not get into a vehicle without putting the regular seat belt on.
Yeah!
Well she has released a formal apology it was on Fox31 t minus 5 minutes ago.
CLICK ME!! (http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-state-senator-injured-woman-killed-txt,0,4895003.story)
Nothing was said about her status on seatbelts.
I can't say what I feel about this matter, but it involves Bill Ritter, Rob Blagoyavich, a motorcycle with a side car, sleeping pills, and the Grand Canyon.
I can't say what I feel about this matter, but it involves Bill Ritter, Rob Blagoyavich, a motorcycle with a side car, sleeping pills, and the Grand Canyon.
To many words google did not like it, care to elaborate?
It would take the rest of the internet to expand on my utter disappointment at politicians and the crimes they get away with. :)
Zundfolge
12-28-2010, 23:15
The Texas Department of Public Safety (TDPS) says Williams' Honda CRV veered into on-coming traffic for an unknown reason.
How much we wanna bet that there was a cell phone in Mrs. Williams' hand at the time?
68Charger
12-29-2010, 00:00
upon further review, I have a further understanding of why some cultures condone public stoning- not that I would think that's warranted [Rant1] without a trial
Based on the facts in the story (possibly incorrect, not held to the same standard as justice)... if I were Mrs. Williams, I would be more than "expressing 'sadness'", but would be abhorrent of my own acceptance that my family was not belted, and wishing that I could trade places with the pregnant woman whose death I caused...
Her initial reaction is probably much more accurate of her internal morals, and is sickening.
Byte Stryke
12-29-2010, 02:24
Already beat you to it Ginsue.
Byte Stryke, I'm ahead of you on the responsibility as well. I already canceled my life insurance AND my renters insurance. If I burn down the whole building in a freak cap gun accident, I wouldn't want to inconvenience anyone with higher insurance rates. :p
[ROFL1]
when -for reasons still unknown- she veered into southbound traffic and collided head-on with a GMC Yukon carrying four people.
Heard behind closed doors:
"Unknown reasons my ass, I spilled my Latte all over my Fucking Newspaper while trying to Text my Boy-toy!
Now I Have the Media and some congressional investigative shit in my Bid-ness."
Would it be viable to email her and express my outrage in her NEGLIGENT murder and near fatal child (x3) endangerment? suzanne.williams.senate@state.co.us (http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/suzanne.williams.senate@state.co.us).
I suppose some Ipad wielding obamayouthcorpsman is filtering her emails.....
Or is this asking for the stasi to come and visit me?
HBARleatherneck
01-05-2011, 08:50
its not accidental. its negligent.
accidental, would be if she had good tires on her can and one blew out, sending her carreening into the other driver.
negligent is not being in charge of your car. allowing people to be unbuckled. leting someone crawl through the vehicle while traveling at highway speeds. (and if she was talking on the phone, texting whatever else) we will call it MURDER. well maybe not but close. i hope they hang her.
I'm sure she will have the O team help her and this will fade away.
68Charger
01-05-2011, 13:22
Things look like they're heating up for the hypocrite:
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_17016236?source=rss
Hope they keep digging. Maybe they will find even more Bullshit.
Byte Stryke
01-05-2011, 16:26
"Some times tragedies occur and that does not mean a crime has occurred," Lane said. "Sometimes there are simply accidents."
are you fucking Kidding me?
If it were a Joe Schmoe
Driving on the wrong side of the road, reckless endangerment/Vehicular Homicide/ Manslaughter
Not Buckling your Minor passengers into proper safety restraints, Felony child endangerment/Manslaughter
Moving ANYTHING on the scene of an accident unless in a lifesaving attempt. Felony Obstruction/Tampering.But because this Bimbo is some state rep, she is above the law?
"Awww, Poor Grammy fucked the monkey and hers is sowwy now. It's OK."
If it were anyone else their "File Photo" would have allot more orange in it.
BPTactical
01-05-2011, 16:55
I caught a news blurb with David Lane, her attorney. I thought it very interesting that they have made a statement that she was not on the phone, she was not texting, she was not impaired and she was not distracted.
They just left out one thing and it is conspicuous by its absence-
She was not sleeping.
My dollar says she nodded off.
Or else she is incompetent to drive a vehicle.
She may Not have been on the phone but I gurantee she had some sort of a communication thingy available.
buffalobo
01-05-2011, 19:27
I caught a news blurb with David Lane, her attorney. I thought it very interesting that they have made a statement that she was not on the phone, she was not texting, she was not impaired and she was not distracted.
They just left out one thing and it is conspicuous by its absence-
She was not sleeping.
My dollar says she nodded off.
Ding, Ding - winner here.
buffalobo
01-05-2011, 19:38
Here other statements that piss me off.
Hartley County, Texas prosecutor David Green told the Amarillo Globe-News (http://amarillo.com/news/local-news/2011-01-04/grand-jury-likely-decide-fatal-crash)that he was "leaning toward taking the case straight to the grand jury because of the publicity in the case."
DA thinks only cases with lots of publicity are important and need to be handled expeditiously?
According to a police report (http://amarillo.com/news/local-news/2011-01-05/report-provides-new-crash-details), Williams also failed to provide proof of insurance. The report also describes how Williams, who claims not to remember the incident, carried her grandson (http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_17016236) back into the car and placed him in a child seat after he had been thrown from the car.
If one of us "commoners" had been driving that car we would be in jail.
You don't need to be sleeping or texting or anything else to be distracted when you have a 3 year-old in the car; especially if they weren't buckled in.
I don't think there is such a thing as moving things after an accident though. I could be wrong, but none that I've ever heard of.
It will be interesting to say the least.
Byte Stryke
01-05-2011, 22:22
You don't need to be sleeping or texting or anything else to be distracted when you have a 3 year-old in the car; especially if they weren't buckled in.
I don't think there is such a thing as moving things after an accident though. I could be wrong, but none that I've ever heard of.
Go Ahead, move a body, Any Body.
Crime scene, accident scene, whatever.
I believe the only way you could get away with it is if there is imminent threat and you are attempting rescue. <--- General Rule
Making the dead Body of your grandson "more comfortable" because you screwed up and didn't buckle him in... I am pretty sure doesn't qualify.
gnihcraes
01-05-2011, 22:28
edit: didn't see this posted above. sorry about that.
A preliminary accident report released Wednesday showed that after a fatal crash in Texas, Colorado state Sen. Suzanne Williams picked up her 3-year-old grandson and put him in a child's carseat before police arrived.
You said anything, not body. You were a firefighter, so you know about that stuff than I do. However, I was under the impression that moving a person opens you up to legal liabilities, but I've never heard of it being a crime. Not saying it isn't, just haven't heard about it.
Also, I thought the only person that died was the driver of the other car (pregnant lady)? Did one of this monster's passengers die as well?
jerrymrc
01-05-2011, 22:35
edit: didn't see this posted above. sorry about that.
A preliminary accident report released Wednesday showed that after a fatal crash in Texas, Colorado state Sen. Suzanne Williams picked up her 3-year-old grandson and put him in a child's carseat before police arrived.
And I bet she buckled him in as well. If this comes to be true then it will be a simple case of cover up with no wiggle room.
http://www.kdvr.com/news/politics/kdvr-williams-investigation-txt,0,7671797.story
there is an update.
I hope they fry her ass. she killed a pregnant woman, possibly the baby (no update on that). injured her own child due to negligence even after she lobbies to have people get in trouble for not buckling up.
she needs to be made an example of.
I sure wish I was on that jury.
gnihcraes
01-06-2011, 05:25
David Lane, great, there is a pain in the xxx person to represent anyone. When you've hired him, you are trying to hide something.
Followup.
From this post here
http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?p=283667#post283667
Speaking of politicians, did anybody catch the part of the report on Suzanne Williams and her deadly accident? The part about her attempt to make it seem like the kids HAD been in their car seats?
Typical politician activity.
DeusExMachina
01-11-2011, 14:33
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_17061305
StagLefty
01-11-2011, 14:56
Sounds like this story is far from over.
Oh she is in hot water, I hope it turns to deep shit soon.
I heard on the radio that she was turned down for a committee chairmanship. Karma is coming her way already.
BTW - I haven't heard her apologize for KILLING another human being. Maybe I missed it.
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