1/16/11

[BigBear]

I'll be heading to the range (DM's) on 1/16/11 (next Sunday) around 2 p.m. (ish), depending on weather/temps/$$$ situation, if anyone is interested.


[Beer]

[Byte Stryke]

I'll be heading to the range (DM's) on 1/16/11 (next Sunday) around 2 p.m. (ish), depending on weather/temps/$$$ situation, if anyone is interested.


[Beer]

already planned on it (http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=18779902123218#%21/event.php?eid=187799021232181)

see you there

[nogaroheli]

I should be in. I'm excited :)

[hurley842002]

Hmmmm, prime opportunity to shoot the new (to me) AK, and finish sighting in the Aimpoint (ran out of sunlight last time), plus my week of vacation starts at exactly 1630 Friday evening. If our travel plans don't start before Sunday, I will try to join.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Do you have to be a member?

[Byte Stryke]

I should be in. I'm excited :)

and I thought that was your concealed carry AK

[ROFL1]

[nogaroheli]

and I thought that was your concealed carry AK

[ROFL1]

At least you didn't think it was an LCP :)

[nogaroheli]

Do you have to be a member?

Nope, it's a public range, I think it's $8 or so.

[BigBear]

Do you have to be a member?


Nagorheli already answered but, no, it's a public range.

I'll be on the 200 yard (usually less busy except for the good ol' benchrest boys) and I'll bring the clay thrower if anyone is interested and some boom cans. I should have a legality answer (in writing) sometime Friday from Dep. Bowen. He's a CSPD rangemaster and also on the bomb squad, etc. He's also talking to inspector Maneri from teh ATF. Should clear everything up concerning Tannerite for all the naysayers who were having issues with it.

[Elhuero]

Nagorheli already answered but, no, it's a public range.

I'll be on the 200 yard (usually less busy except for the good ol' benchrest boys) and I'll bring the clay thrower if anyone is interested and some boom cans. I should have a legality answer (in writing) sometime Friday from Dep. Bowen. He's a CSPD rangemaster and also on the bomb squad, etc. He's also talking to inspector Maneri from teh ATF. Should clear everything up concerning Tannerite for all the naysayers who were having issues with it.

why bother with CSPD? dragonman's is way outside city limits.

mel blasts cars with 50 cals out there.

tannerite shouldn't be a problem.

[BigBear]

Rgr I know, just with the way the last tannerite thread went and some people saying they weren't sure they wanted to partake, I figured I'd just get some documentation from city and Feds to put the nay sayers at ease.


I have 30 lbs I'll be having fun with regardless if others partake. Just want people to be at ease and have fun, not worrying about gettin' thrown in jail, etc.

People do need to bring their own ammo though. I'm not rich, lol. I'll try to have 200 or so clays so if people want more, they'll have to bring 'em.

[Byte Stryke]

why bother with CSPD? dragonman's is way outside city limits.

mel blasts cars with 50 cals out there.

tannerite shouldn't be a problem.

well according to the way the regs read Tannerite would be illegal
and so far, .50 calibers aren't.

public/private range aside, illegal possession of an explosive isn't a charge I want on my record.

[BigBear]

well according to the way the regs read Tannerite would be illegal
and so far, .50 calibers aren't.

public/private range aside, illegal possession of an explosive isn't a charge I want on my record.

I understand Byte, hence me jumping through some hoops here to get you and others some solid answers in writing.

If it does help ease your conscience, Mel does have an explosives liscence as well and he rigs those cars to blow with showman pyrotechniques/explosions, etc. The range is also private property even though he runs the business (which is also liscenced) off of it.

But in the grand scheme of things, I understand that "it doesn't matter if the product is still not kosher!" If you come you don't have to shoot 'em or even touch 'em. You can be on a different lane and disavow any knowledge of having safe fun! (messing with you brother)

[Beer]

[BigBear]

Bottom line: Legal as long as it is not premixed or transported while mixed. No liscence needed for the manufactered amounts sold via the Tannerite website. They do express concerns and hesitancy about people using it that have no explosives knowledge/liscense, etc.

I have a written letter heading my way expressing the above.

Below are the emails. I'll begin with the initial email and then just post the replies as we hash things out. Some things and emails were edited out as they had no relevance to the original conversation. If you would like to check the originals for validity, I'll keep 'em for a while. Ok, on to the emails:


Original email:
Hello Randy, et al.,
First and foremost: Happy New Year! I hope and pray that all is well with you and yours! Now, on to business. I am trying to figure out the legality of using Tannerite Reactive Targets for personal use on established ranges. Several range masters have indicated that they would not have any problems letting me use the product as long as I am safe, it's legal, and all that jazz. While researching the product I've have come upon several inconsistencies and just want to make sure everything is legal before I proceed.

Here are the claims of Tannerite issued on their webpage: http://www.tannerite.com/frequent-questions/tannerite-exploding-targets/

- Tannerite is a binary explosive used for firearms practice.
- It is completely stable when subjected to less severe forces such as hammer blows or being dropped.
- It is exceptionally safer than black powder.
- It cannot be set off using flame or electricity.
- Designed for high powered rifle use only, it cannot be set off with rim fire or small caliber (slow moving) pistol cartridges.
- It is supplied as two powders (ammonium nitrate blend with zinc I think as the catalyst) which are combined to produce the explosive.
- It is patented and trade marked.
- Explosion consists of water vapor in a white "dust" cloud and loud boom.
- Since the two components are not explosive until mixed, they can be legally purchased without a license.

They claim that they would love to talk to any authorities and discuss it's legality, so: Tannerite's phone number if more information is needed: 541.744.1406

Here is where my questions lay:

- In Colorado law, even though written for liquid explosives, it does state that "binary" explosives are illegal.

Source: Explosive Regs from the CO Division of Oil and Public Safety.
- Explosive Materials: These include explosives, blasting agents, and detonators... Binary explosives, sold in two or more components, are considered an explosive material requiring a Division of Oil and Public safety explosives permit.

Question is: If this is the case, how do I obtain a Division of Oil and Public safety explosives permit? Seems kind of overkill for a simple reactive target.

- In Federal law there are restrictions on the civilian detonation of materials in excess of 4 oz. So that would apparently mean the detonation of .5 and 1lb "cans" of Tannerite could be construed as violations of current BATFE regulations.... insane....


Bottom line: Would it be okay to use this product or do I need to find out how to obtain permits and their costs, etc? Would it be possible to use on private land then since the owning of such product is not in question, it seems to be the actual detonation.

Thank you for taking the time to read and respond to this. We appreciate everything y'all do for us in El Paso county. Take care and God Bless.

Sincerely,
Tim Baird


Responses:


Gentlemen, beyond the local considerations, I have reached out to Pete Marini with ATF. The individual rifle/pistol targets are not regulated. In excess of certain amounts of Tannerite binary explosive materials may require some kind of permit. He will get specifics and call me tomorrow.


J.D.


Lt. J.D. Ross, Training Director
El Paso County Sheriff's Office
__________________________________________________ ____________


Tim,
I talked with Corey and he reached to get answers to your questions. His respsonse is below. As Range Master for the EPSO / Public Safety Training Facility, I would be hesitant to allow this on our range based on the concerns expressed by The Regional Biomb Commander Chris Arseneau. Officer Compton, CSPD Range Master / Public Safety Traing Facility, concurs with this reservation. But, it seems it is not illegal to use.


Please feel free to contact me if you have any further questions.


Randy


Deputy R.W. Bowen - Range Master
El Paso County Sheriff's Office
Public Safety Training Facility
5695 S. Academy Blvd.
(719) 502-2272 - Office
________________________________
Hey Randy,


In regards to your question about the Tannerite for the target shooting I talked to Chris Arseneau (CSPD/EPSO Regional Bomb Squad Commander) about some of the things that you were asking about. Essentially he said that it is not illegal to transport or ship in Colorado since it is sent in two separate containers. Now once the binary is mixed, it does become (and is considered) a high explosive so it would need to be used at that time. What he meant by this is that unless they have a permit to transport and store explosives, they can’t mix it and store it anywhere because it when then fall under state regulation.


Chris also mentioned that although it is considered by many to be a stable explosive, it can be shock sensitive and set off that way. I asked him straight out if he thought it was worth the risk and trouble to use it in target shooting as it is advertised on the website. He stated that although many people have made homemade versions of it and have tried to use it in shooting, he didn’t feel it was worth the potential risk involved in using and handling a high explosive with no training to do so.


If you have any questions for Chris, you can always call him at 444-7712.


Let me know if there’s anything else I can do…


Corey
__________________________________________________ ____________


J.D. has no further email. However, he did call me after speaking to Inspector Marini. Everything is legal as long as it's not premixed/stored/transported. It must be used on spot, etc. They advised against mixing anything larger than 1lb though technically, it wouldn't be illegal.


So again, bottom line: Tannerite it GTG. Just need to make sure DM is ok with it and the last 20 times I've been out there, Mel's never had a problem as long as it didn't disturb anyone, wasn't busy, etc and etc. I ask every time and get a GTG every time... doesn't hurt that his daughter and my wife hang out I guess... HAHA.


I sent everyone a thank you email and also told 'em I'd have no problem with taking take them to the range so they can experience it themselves or even giving their rangemaster or bomb techs a few samples.

[BPTactical]

Randy-
Your diligence and patience regarding the use of Tannerite is commendable and outstanding.[Beer] to you amigo!
Your "Sainthood" is pending.
Weather,money, work and time permitting I am going to try and head down.

[Byte Stryke]

Tim I will see you about 1:30ish then?
or will we meet up at the range?

[BigBear]

Tim I will see you about 1:30ish then?
or will we meet up at the range?


You can stop by my place or I can meet you directly at the range, no biggie either way. I won't be home from church till about noonish anyways. FIL has PCS'ed to Carson, so he may be coming along as well, just got in this past weekend. He has a few fun toys and a great DPMS Ar15. Remember Kyle? He'll be along as well as a few other town friends of mine.

[BigBear]

Randy-
Your diligence and patience regarding the use of Tannerite is commendable and outstanding.[Beer] to you amigo!
Your "Sainthood" is pending.
Weather,money, work and time permitting I am going to try and head down.


They are all a bunch of really good guys. I'm glad Maketa put together a great team.

[BigBear]

Also recieved an alert from Agent Marini with the ATF. For full disclosure it's listed here as well. Nothing changes, it's still legal etc, they just want the scare the sheeple approach.

Interesting read though. And I must say the ATF boys have some balls testing the stuff with hydra-shock 12 ga slugs at a 5 foot standoff! Tanner says not to use the product less than 100 yards, lol!

I've always wanted to try the flash targets (like those big red dots you see on "Top Shot") but I did hear they were unstable depending on circumstances. I bet someone at teh store that blew up in teh flyer was drumming or cutting on one...

[ChunkyMonkey]

A couple Denver COAR15 members and I are planning to drive down to Dragon just for the sake of meeting the guys. I need to clarify what time, and if we need to bring anything aside from target, boomsticks and ammo.

Looking forward to this.

[opie011]

I really wish I could make this one.

[BigBear]

A couple Denver COAR15 members and I are planning to drive down to Dragon just for the sake of meeting the guys. I need to clarify what time, and if we need to bring anything aside from target, boomsticks and ammo.

Looking forward to this.

When: 1/16/11
Where: DM's in CoS, 200 yard range
Time: 14:00
Bring: Ammo, targets, boomsticks, eyes/ear pro, fun/easy going attitude, $8 (for Entrance fee)


There is an $8 entrance fee that I would like to pay for everyone, but I just can't afford it. If you need specific directions on how to get there from certain areas, let me know and I'll post 'em.

I have 30lbs of boomcans to get rid of. We will be safe using it, (not doubling doses, stacking, pitting, etc) and I would prefer if I was the only one to handle it to make sure things stay safe/legal/etc... Call me paranoid in big groups, but it's how it is, lol. Bring your own ammo. This is mainly clays and rifles, but they do have an adjacent pistol range if y'all want to do some of that after the festivities. If anyone can think of any "games" to play, such as:

Tannerite: I've always wanted to have two groups of shooters, 2-3 people in each group. A line of 5 targets - 3 (1/2lbers) at 100, and 2 (1lbers) at 200. Each shooter gets 2 shots. Timed for 10 seconds each person. First group to blow all targets gets a prize... I just don't have any prizes except braggin' rights, lol.

Clays: Groups in line, multiple throws, each person has one shot per clay. Other group can stand in to pick off but must wait for first groups shot. No intentional grounding of the target.

etc.

I'll bring the clay thrower if anyone is interested in that... I personally quite enjoy it. It's a crappy thrower and only throws singles, but it works.

I'll be on the 200 yard range, hopefully on the west side blocking off a few lanes. Should be a green, two door Honda Civic parked in the vicinity. Find me, introduce yourself, let's have fun. There will probably be about four or so of us already there (family/friends). I'll be the fat bald dude, in jeans and a button up with rolled sleeves, probably be wearing black gloves by that time. Name's Tim. Or just shout out "Hey Tim!" and I'll probably turn around, lol.

I'll call Mel around 11 a.m. to make sure they're open in case of any weather elements. I'll post here by noon whether it's a go or no-go. Forecasts say cloudy but no activity so we'll see. Dress appropiately.

Anything I'm missing?

[Byte Stryke]

Anything I'm missing?

Map Linky
(http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=dragon+Mans+range&sll=39.903027,-104.995155&sspn=0.013235,0.033023&ie=UTF8&hq=dragon+Mans+range&hnear=&radius=15000&ll=38.860229,-104.599886&spn=0.053735,0.132093&t=h&z=14&iwloc=A)

[BigBear]

Map Linky
(http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=dragon+Mans+range&sll=39.903027,-104.995155&sspn=0.013235,0.033023&ie=UTF8&hq=dragon+Mans+range&hnear=&radius=15000&ll=38.860229,-104.599886&spn=0.053735,0.132093&t=h&z=14&iwloc=A)

Danke!

[StagLefty]

Looks like the weather is going to cooperate for your shoot. Have a great time and post some pics. [Beer]

[BigBear]

Looks like the weather is going to cooperate for your shoot. Have a great time and post some pics. [Beer]

I'll try to remember a camera. You're in teh Springs, come on out and have some fun too if you get a chance. I'm sure we'll be there for a while.

[BPTactical]

Kinda looks like myself and SideShowBob may trundle down there.

[BigBear]

The more, the merrier.

[Byte Stryke]

Map Linky
(http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=dragon+Mans+range&sll=39.903027,-104.995155&sspn=0.013235,0.033023&ie=UTF8&hq=dragon+Mans+range&hnear=&radius=15000&ll=38.860229,-104.599886&spn=0.053735,0.132093&t=h&z=14&iwloc=A)Danke!

Bitte


Ich glaube wir habe

I Believe we have a seat open in the carpool from North Denver side.
Contact myself or BPTactical for info

[Graves]

Eh chit, I may skate on down.

If you need help finding Tim...
http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4970&d=1288627088

[BigBear]

I love that pic! HAHA. I think I did a heck of a job carving that pumkin!! I like the ears for the added effect. Would've thrown on a goatee but I couldn't imagine it coming out correctly, lol.

[StagLefty]

I'm always confused by that pic. Who's who ? [Beer]

[theGinsue]

Ouch!

[spyder]

I'm always confused by that pic. Who's who ? [Beer]

Tim looks a little creepy in that photo, and, who is the guy that is going to stab him in the head? [ROFL1]

[BigBear]

I'm always confused by that pic. Who's who ? [Beer]


Ouch!

Ha... ouch x2

[StagLefty]

Ha... ouch x2
Yeah but it's a love ouch ya big lug [Beer]

[BigBear]

I hear ya, I hear ya.

I'm going to have you be the target... I mean, set up the targets on Sunday. heheheh


(kidding, honestly, come on out!)

[StagLefty]

I suppose if I hold the tannerite over my head it won't hurt at all huh [ROFL1]
Love to join you but it's church day for me.

[BigBear]

I suppose if I hold the tannerite over my head it won't hurt at all huh [ROFL1]
Love to join you but it's church day for me.


Bah, I go to church too, usually out by noon. We'll be done before 5 (they close at 4:30, lol) so you'll still make it to night service! Anyways, see you around.

[SideShow Bob]

Kinda looks like myself and SideShowBob may trundle down there.

If you don't wimp out again.

Signed:
The Trunk Monkey.

[TEAMRICO]

Dang, of all weekends!
Headed up to Estes Park for the annual Griswold Family getaway MLK weekend.
Course you know im take some hardware. You know, for traveling, and with Mt. Lions.
Have fun fella's.
Spring cant get here soon enough.
I wish my man cave looked like Mels store!

[TEAMRICO]

Dang, of all weekends!
Headed up to Estes Park for the annual Griswold Family getaway MLK weekend.
Course you know im taken some hardware. You know, for traveling, and with Mt. Lions and all.
Have fun fella's.
Spring cant get here soon enough.
I wish my man cave looked like Mels store!

[BigBear]

If you don't wimp out again.

Signed:
The Trunk Monkey.


Uh-oh, CALL OUT THREAD!!!! [ROFL1] [Beer]

[Byte Stryke]

Dang, of all weekends!
Headed up to Estes Park for the annual Griswold Family getaway MLK weekend.
Course you know im take some hardware. You know, for traveling, and with Mt. Lions.
Have fun fella's.
Spring cant get here soon enough.
I wish my man cave looked like Mels store!


Dang, of all weekends!
Headed up to Estes Park for the annual Griswold Family getaway MLK weekend.
Course you know im taken some hardware. You know, for traveling, and with Mt. Lions and all.
Have fun fella's.
Spring cant get here soon enough.
I wish my man cave looked like Mels store!

Anyone else hear an echo?

[Tooth]

[BPTactical]

Anyone else hear an echo?

[Tooth]
No



No



No

[BPTactical]

If you don't wimp out again.

Signed:
The Trunk Monkey.


Well with the moniker of "Trunk Monkey" I guess you know where you are riding Bob.
DO NOT FLING POO in the trunk, Mama will be quite unhappy.

[BigBear]

Anyone else hear an echo?

[Tooth]


What? What?... Wha....... wha.......wh....... .... ....

[ChunkyMonkey]

BP tactical will be down there for sure? I have been wanting you to look at my BOHICA and parkarize the barrel. Perhaps I ll drag it along with me.

[Byte Stryke]

Speaking of which, I will have a full car load as the wife and Kids are coming with. So I will have to break up the carpool.

[BigBear]

Speaking of which, I will have a full car load as the wife and Kids are coming with. So I will have to break up the carpool.


Nice, still trying to get my wife to come... "But Tim, the art fair is at the same time!!" Ha.

[BPTactical]

Speaking of which, I will have a full car load as the wife and Kids are coming with. So I will have to break up the carpool.

The "Trunk Monkey" and I work together so that shant be an issue Guy- thanks

[Beer]

[Byte Stryke]

Nice, still trying to get my wife to come... "But Tim, the art fair is at the same time!!" Ha.


I plan on making art on Paper.
at a few K'/s
:)

[Byte Stryke]

Seems I will only have a +1 (Oldest Son) as Dragon man's has a 8 year old age limit.


The Mrs. and Little Byte will be staying home.
Wife is not going to like this. [Rant2]

[BigBear]

...Dragon man's has a 8 year old age limit.


The Mrs. and Little Byte will be staying home.
Wife is not going to like this. [Rant2]


Did not realize that man... Sorry... Poor Mrs. Byte....

[BigBear]

All's a go, see y'all tomorrow. [Beer]

[SA Friday]

Won't be there. Gotta work.

[Byte Stryke]

I will be there with 2 of my Boys and a +1
Have to pick up a computer on the way.
Should be at Dragonmans by 2

[BPTactical]

Myself and SideShowBob are planning on being there by noon. Got some seeerious work to do before the fun begins[Sniper]
Gonna bring the youngest youngin too I think.

[opie011]

I wanna go so bad but it aint gonna happen:(

[ChunkyMonkey]

I am here.. where is everyone1?

[StagLefty]

Not sure if your serious but I looked back at the posts and I believe they're meeting about noon.

[BigBear]

Not sure if your serious but I looked back at the posts and I believe they're meeting about noon.


Rgr, some people will be there noon. Festivities will spark off about 2. Just got out of church, gotta change, grab lunch, pick up some clays, and I'll be heading out there. Wifey's comin' too.

[BPTactical]

Southbound and down- just passed C Rock

[Mazin]

Just remeber when you are all having a great time that I will be all alone in a empty datacenter reading how much fun you guys are having
:(


Have a great and safe time fellas!!!!
[M2]
[UZI]

[BigBear]

Thanks to everyone coming out! We had to bug out about 4 as the wifey was getting cold, lol. (But she had a good time, especially on Guys AR15! Thanks, she might let me get one finally now, HAHAHA)

It was very nice meeting all of y'all and hopefully we'll do it again sometime. I might ask Mel about taking a grill out there during the summer... it'll have to be a "no alcohol" event though.

Anyways, hope you enjoyed the Tannerite and I'll see y'all around.

[opie011]

Count me in for next time!

[theGinsue]

Even though I got there a bit late and wasn't able to bring anything to shoot, I had a great time meeting so many of you.

BigBear - thanks for setting this up. I think everyone that made it will agree that it was a screaming success. And, that Tannerite - really went off with a bang!

[patrick0685]

ya would have loved to be there, maybe next time i can make it

[patrick0685]

And, that Tannerite - really went off with a bang!

video or it didnt happen

[theGinsue]

I think Byte Stryke has video of it!

[SideShow Bob]

And a good time was had by all.
Nice meeting all of you gun nuts, the tannerite was way cool man. Now I got to get me some of that stuff.

[esaabye]

video or it didnt happen

I put together a quick vid of my son and I from today. I only got to meet a few of you but it was nice. The boy sure loves the reactive targets, we were shooting a bowling pin at 100yds, a 4inch steel at 200yds and the tannerite when no one was looking. Thanks guys!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljoH54JL6sc

[DSB OUTDOORS]

If I can find his card, there was a guy that had a booth at the Tanner and the RK gunshow. That was selling a case's of tannerrite for $100 He is out of Kansas if I remember right. I will post it after I find it to add to the funn!!! [Tooth]

[BigBear]

If I can find his card, there was a guy that had a booth at the Tanner and the RK gunshow. That was selling a case's of tannerrite for $100 He is out of Kansas if I remember right. I will post it after I find it to add to the funn!!! [Tooth]


PLEASE, PLEASE make sure it is the "real deal" as found on Tannerite.com. There are "homemade" variants out there that ARE NOT STABLE and can blow fingers/hands off etc. PLEASE do your research and make sure it's legit.

Daniel (Tannerite dude) has his outfit in Tx. Don't know about anyone out in KS.

Have fun BUT BE SAFE!!! [Beer]

[Bowtie]

Thank-You Bigbear, The tannerite was great. It was nice meeting everyone. Also being my first time to Dragon-man was interesting. I liked the bloody bodies lining the driveway. It was a nice no frills, common sense range. [Beer]

[DeusExMachina]

That was awesome! Glad I tagged along with Dain. Nice to meet everybody.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Thank-You Bigbear, The tannerite was great. It was nice meeting everyone. Also being my first time to Dragon-man was interesting. I liked the bloody bodies lining the driveway. It was a nice no frills, common sense range. [Beer]

Holysh1t..its Bowtie posting!

[Byte Stryke]

I will get the video edited and uploaded as soon as I find where I put the software disc.
Before I moved it was in my desk.
we emptied the desk into a box when we moved.
The Box is here.... somewhere.

[Byte Stryke]

Picture

http://www.bsdgames.com/Tex/Web/Shoot.jpg

[DSB OUTDOORS]

PLEASE, PLEASE make sure it is the "real deal" as found on Tannerite.com. There are "homemade" variants out there that ARE NOT STABLE and can blow fingers/hands off etc. PLEASE do your research and make sure it's legit.

Daniel (Tannerite dude) has his outfit in Tx. Don't know about anyone out in KS.

Have fun BUT BE SAFE!!! [Beer]
They are the real DEAL!!! He is a rep. and or a big fan. I bought 2 samples and ooohhhh!!! Man my old lawn mower is TOAST!!!! Tannerite orange lable and all!! [Weight] I'll keep all posted!!

[BPTactical]

I will second the "A good time had by all" sentiment.
BigBear- sincerest thanks for Quarterbacking this shindig and supplying the Tannerite. [Beer]
It was a blast
Nice to meet ya'll and we definitely need to do this again!
Ginsue- nice to have a face to place to the demented post's[Coffee]
You will have to forgive me as I am terrible at names and faces but it was a nice way to spend an afternoon with a great group of guys..
1st trip to Dragons here as well and worth the trip. All he is missing is a peeler bar and he would have the perfect "Guy's Theme Park".

[SideShow Bob]

I see by the picture that you captured BP's good side. [ROFL1]

[ChunkyMonkey]

Too bad I didnt bring my camera today... here is from the few seconds I got on the iPhone

_UwZfwHEiNo

[opie011]

Dammit I knew I should have gone. Great editing MB888....I liked the video![Beer]

[BPTactical]

I see by the picture that you captured BP's good side. [ROFL1]

Look "Trunk Monkey" at least I have a side that would be considered "Good"[Coffee]

[Byte Stryke]

Found the CD...

Video is in Process
trying to chop 3 hours into something that wont cure insomnia

Nogaroheli, you have a very Photogenic Back
[ROFL1]



My Boy
http://www.bsdgames.com/Tex/Web/Chris.jpg

[DeusExMachina]

I wanted to make babies with that MSAR.

[spyder]

Damn, looks like you guys had a lot of fun over there. Nice pics and vids.

[Elhuero]

yeah, I'm bummed I missed this as well.

next time I'll be there, with extra tannerite.

[StagLefty]

Looks like you guys had a great time-well done Bear !! [Beer]

[ThunderSquirrel]

Nice editing on the video! I know that song from somewhere but I can't put my finger on it...

I'll have to try to make it next time there is a group shoot, looks like you guys had a good time.

[Troublco]

Wish I could have made it. Maybe next time...

[nogaroheli]

That was a blast! It was great getting to meet all of you guys- I don't know what I expected you all to be like but you weren't that :) It was nice to get to put faces and personalities with names (now I'll know to mentally insert a couple more swear words or jokes in BP's posts to get the real meaning)!

Sorry I showed up late and missed some of the action, and forgot a stapler in the rush out of the house, but I had a great time. I got to fondle and shoot some sweet pieces I hadn't had the chance to before, I got to shoot a few jars of Tannerite and that never disappoints.

Thanks all for getting together and shooting, huge thanks to BigBear for researching, arranging and for providing the Tannerite!

(I don't know how I feel about you liking and taking so many pics of my backside Byte!)

[BPTactical]

[UZI]
(now I'll know to mentally insert a couple more swear words or jokes in BP's posts to get the real meaning)!


Now just what the holy gawd @#$@ f&%$# sonofa ()*&^ mother $#^%@ hell is that supposed to mean?




I wanted to make babies with that MSAR.


Deus- If it has any DNA on it when I clean it............

[DeusExMachina]

You'd have to give it to me. Territory marked and all that.

[BigBear]

Thank you all for coming out and introducing yourselves. There WILL be a next time so more folks can get on board. It just won't be until summer probably cause I spent all the play money! HAHAH.

I'll be talking to Mel and Ken and the staff to see if next time I can't bring in a BBQ and we'll just make a day of it. (No alcohol though, but I make a mean burger and/or steak).

Hopefully a wonderful time was had by all. It was nice to see some young kids out there learning about firearms. Made me smile. And I'm glad the Tannerite made some of y'all smile, HA. See y'all around.

[theGinsue]

I've got one of these for just this sort of event:
http://www.coleman.com/coleman/images/products/9941-768_500.jpg

Enought to cook about 8 burgers at a time on it.

[theGinsue]

Ginsue- nice to have a face to place to the demented post's[Coffee]

I wasn't quite what you expected - was I? (It's okay, you can say it!)

Byte wasn't quite what I expected either - I figured he'd be a stocky guy, but I didn't expect him to look like he could pull the arms off of a bear (grizzley type - not you BigBear).

[BPTactical]

I wasn't quite what you expected - was I? (It's okay, you can say it!)


OK-ummm, errr, ahhhh, duhhhh................














Never Mind....[NoEvil]







[Tooth]





DesExMachina-
You'd have to give it to me. Territory marked and all that.



Sorry Deus-She is faithful and has good taste in her men[Kick2]

[Byte Stryke]

Uploading the great American Insomnia cure to youtube now.

Link to follow....


After having watched it 400 times... kinda bored with it now [ROFL1]

[Byte Stryke]

:(

[patrick0685]

man im sad i miss out, great pics and vid though

[spyder]

man im sad i miss out, great pics and vid though
next time pat, next time

[StagLefty]

Uploading the great American Insomnia cure to youtube now.

Link to follow....


After having watched it 400 times... kinda bored with it now [ROFL1]

Am I missing the link somewhere ?

[Byte Stryke]

Am I missing the link somewhere ?

youtube is a whore....

currently re-editing because it was 3 minutes too long

[Rant1]

[StagLefty]

youtube is a whore....

currently re-editing because it was 3 minutes too long

[Rant1]

So there'll be 2 versions-Director's cut and extended ? [ROFL1]

[Byte Stryke]

So there'll be 2 versions-Director's cut and extended ? [ROFL1]

oi vey...



Resolving copyright issues
will re-post soon

[ChunkyMonkey]

NOTICE This video contains an audio track that has not been authorized by all copyright holders. The audio has been disabled. More about copyright

darn darn darn

[StagLefty]

Thanks Byte-enjoyed it [Beer]
tsk tsk Bear-no eye protection [Rant1]
Sorry that's the Instructor in me [Beer]

[funkfool]

Picture


Usernames to match up with the faces?

[ChunkyMonkey]

I can play the vid here, just not on youtube. Weird... Thanks for the upload Guy!

[StagLefty]

Usernames to match up with the faces?

Can't-Byte signed a waiver to protect perps identities [ROFL1]

[BPTactical]

Can't-Byte signed a waiver to protect perps identities [ROFL1]

He had darn well better-the statute of limitations has not expired yet!



Again-Thanks to the ringleader AKA BigBear!
Nice job on the vid work Byte!

[Byte Stryke]

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1651491840727

Facebook link without the bad/Lack of music

[opie011]

What about us without a Facebook....or am I the only one without one?

[BPTactical]

What about us without a Facebook....or am I the only one without one?
Your OK ET- Facebook and Twitter is just stupid IMHO

[Byte Stryke]

well Facebook may be stupid, but Youtube is claiming the video I shot is copyrighted property and they have locked my account.

So unless your email has a 1.6GB capacity... bear with me.

[Byte Stryke]

I am trying to put a copy up on my website
stand by...

[Bowtie]

This is Karma for the last line in your credits.[Tooth]

[Byte Stryke]

This is Karma for the last line in your credits.[Tooth]


16 January 2011?

[opie011]

Cool video Guy. I used the wifes FB account to watch the vid!

[StagLefty]

What about us without a Facebook....or am I the only one without one?

nope [Beer]

[Byte Stryke]

Lets try this
http://www.bsdgames.com/Tex/Dragonmans.wmv

[ChunkyMonkey]

Poor Guy has been spending the last 3 days to upload this thing. This file is HUGEEEEE btw

[Byte Stryke]

Poor Guy has been spending the last 3 days to upload this thing. This file is HUGEEEEE btw

it started as a 18.8GB AVCHD File.....

this is AFTER editing

[Rant2]

[opie011]

I don't have the patience(I know it's spelled wrong) to upload a vid of that size. I would just say..."make it to the next shoot to see the action".[Tooth]

[Byte Stryke]

I don't have the patience(I know it's spelled wrong) to upload a vid of that size. I would just say..."make it to the next shoot to see the action".[Tooth]

pffft... you didn't make it to the last one!
[LOL]

[opie011]

pffft... you didn't make it to the last one!
[LOL]

I know I know[Rant1]. I'll be there for the next one for sure though. I was just just saying if I were you I'd say come to the next one.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Do we have anything like dragonmans up in Denver area?

[Byte Stryke]

are you kidding me?

That close to the People's Socialiste Demokratische Republik de Denver.

If they ever found out that Dragonman's was so close, they would make them move to Kansas or New Mexico.

[Mad]