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brianakell
01-13-2011, 17:12
Thinking of trying this out, not sure if Ill like it for feel or not, on a glock. Thinking just palm side, and back strap. But love to see pics.

Was your too rough, too smooth? Did a little and wanted less, needed to do more?

two shoes
01-14-2011, 09:39
Thinking of trying this out, not sure if Ill like it for feel or not, on a glock. Thinking just palm side, and back strap. But love to see pics.

Was your too rough, too smooth? Did a little and wanted less, needed to do more?

Here is a link that shows some true stippling (dots) and some other techniques (like tree bark).

http://www.bowietacticalconcepts.com/pictures.html

I like the feel of it. If it is too rough, a little sandpaper can mellow it out.

Colorado Shooting Sports has Glocks already done up. I am sure a great gunsmith (like BPTactical) could handle it as well.

banks74
02-02-2011, 23:55
I have had 3 done by Anthony at Colorado Shooting Sports. He does a great job. I have big hands and he rounds the trigger guard which makes a huge difference for me.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x249/banks74/IMG_0082.jpg

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x249/banks74/IMG_0080.jpg

DeusExMachina
02-03-2011, 00:18
Kind of curious about that cutting down they advertise on the page. My M&P fullsize might be nice with the grip cut to compact length.

FireMoth
03-02-2011, 00:54
Not the greatest pics in the world, but here's a few examples

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/Glock35/Glock35-1.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/Glock35/Glock35-5.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/Glock35/Glock35-6.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/Glock%2019/DSCI0234.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/Glock%2019/DSCI0235.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/Glock%2019/DSCI0236.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/Glock%2019/DSCI0286.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/Glock%2019/G19R2.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/G17%20POG/FMG17-1.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/G17%20POG/FMG17-2.jpg

opie011
03-02-2011, 01:00
Very nice FireMoth[Beer]

Irving
03-02-2011, 01:09
I'll have to post the pictures of my M&P on here some time. I'll have to go steal, I mean borrow the camera.

FireMoth
03-02-2011, 01:10
Thank you. I'll try to get some of the latest projects tomorrow to share as well.

The Secret in my pudding is grinding my own tool shapes to do specific pasterns. I just had a request for a Bowie tactical style pattern, so tomorrow i will grind a new tool

Dr_Fwd
03-02-2011, 01:24
I'll post the pics as soon as he's done with my M&P. [Beer]

BTW, that G19 (pics 4-5) is my carry gun, the pics doesn't do a justice - it looks way better in person. Thanks again FireMoth!

FireMoth
03-02-2011, 01:46
Yeah, I said they were shitty pics.

I need to get Chris to use the magical, questionably masculine Iphone4 to take pics. they seem to come out better on that little wonder gadget.

I also need to get pics of the tomahawk handles

FireMoth
03-02-2011, 01:54
Some nubbys to add to the pile:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/G-27/Glock27-1.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/G-27/Glock27-4.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/G-27/Glock27-7.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/Glock%2026%20CTC/G26CTC-1.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/Glock%2026%20CTC/G26CTC-2.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/Glock%2026%20CTC/G26CTC-3.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/Glock%2026%20CTC/G26CTC-4.jpg

FireMoth
03-02-2011, 16:21
And just to keep you all interested....

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/Glock%2035%20POG/G35-1.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/Glock%2035%20POG/G35-2.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/Glock%2035%20POG/G35-4.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/Cav%20Arms%20AR/AR15-12.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/Cav%20Arms%20AR/AR15-7.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/Cav%20Arms%20AR/AR15-9.jpg

DeusExMachina
03-02-2011, 16:25
How far done is the 35? Looking good!

BigBear
03-02-2011, 16:50
I think the "tree bark" look in the links look really nice... might have someone try that on a few of mine. Typically, how much does that cost?

FireMoth
03-02-2011, 18:49
How far done is the 35? Looking good!

Just need to do a tiny bit more touch up on the mag funnel, and still waiting on my trigger connector, barrel, and tritium front sight. So, so close....


I think the "tree bark" look in the links look really nice... might have someone try that on a few of mine. Typically, how much does that cost?

Well, I'll do a whole glock, xd, or M&P black frames in a solid pattern, with undercut of trigger guard and removal of finger bumps (if desired) locally for $75.00 This is 'in shop' only for that price. I'm not offering that if i have to futz with shipping handguns.

Custom patterns, bordered patterns, and colored frames I'll quote on an individual basis.

Hoopty
03-02-2011, 23:31
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/Cav%20Arms%20AR/AR15-12.jpg

I told you that you break out your damn lightweight AR at least a few times a day! [ROFL1]

FireMoth
03-02-2011, 23:47
You're just jealous of my 5.5lb rifle.

Its like a little dog... girls think its cute ;)

Hayes
03-03-2011, 00:09
I told you that you break out your damn lightweight AR at least a few times a day! [ROFL1]


I've been in their shop 4 times, and he pulls it out every time... Any excuse to whip it out. [ROFL2][ROFL2]

FireMoth
03-03-2011, 00:13
Now i like to snap out my 35.. its smaller, but it looks mean....


...wait, what?

banks74
03-03-2011, 00:24
Nice looking Glocks FireMoth!!

FireMoth
03-03-2011, 00:33
Thanks. Wish they were all my guns, instead of just my work

The 35 without the mag well is an APD officers duty piece... that border pattern he wanted along with the slimming was time consuming. Lesson learned about what i charge for pretty borders :)

banks74
03-03-2011, 00:35
I bet it was time consuming!! I have a 35 coming in here soon. I will have to get in contact with you. Your prices seem really fair.

FireMoth
03-03-2011, 00:51
I try to help out the local guys.

I'll get some more pattern example sup soon, but i can do just about anything to them.

The $75 is just cutting and texturing though. If i have to add material back, that changes both time and price rather dramatically. The mag well on ym 35 to get the nice blended shoot took about a week with drying time. the stippling took a day

The Rat
03-03-2011, 09:40
Oh hey, something I can comment on!

After reading some internet threads and being inspired by some good stipple jobs, I bought a $25 wood burning kit (like a soldering iron but with interchangeable heads) and practiced on a couple spare rail panels.

Two days later I was working on weapons.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/rupert42/Guns/stipples8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/rupert42/Guns/stipples6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/rupert42/Guns/stipples5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/rupert42/Guns/stipples10.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/rupert42/Guns/stipples11.jpg

G19 + G17 with grip chopped to G19 length. (Universal Glock concept)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/rupert42/Guns/glockchop5.jpg

This is the cheapest, easiest weapon mod I've ever done. It made a dramatic improvement in my pistols. It helped out on the carbines, but it was nowhere near as dramatic a change as on the pistols.

The only real cost is time. Even then, put on some music while you stipple and the 2hr cost on a pistol is gone quickly.

FireMoth
03-03-2011, 09:55
looks like you have a really good start there. Clean technique, with good edges.

If you want to experiment with the next step, you are already in the right ball park. Most of the interchangeable burners use .250" stock for the tips. get your self some brass or steel, depending on the type, and shape some tips to make different marks, then try experimenting with drawing or moving the tip as you go.

Getting old rail panels, or parts to practice on is a good idea before you go after guns with the different patterns, as the more aggressive ones increase the chance of burn through

As you can see on your very cleanly done glocks, the texturing doesn't hide the existing pattern and borders. The other thing, then, to try, is taking files or grinders to the stock before you texture, to change shapes. The nice thing about the texturing process is it will hide surface finish, even if it wont hide raised edges or recesses.

So you can get pretty gnarly with the file or dremel, then just burn over the scratches.

All in all, good work. keep at it.

Irving
03-03-2011, 21:00
Here is my home job.

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq226/1stuart1/Guns/DSCN3772.jpg
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq226/1stuart1/Guns/DSCN3773.jpg
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq226/1stuart1/Guns/DSCN3774.jpg

Looks a lot more crappy way up close like that.

I practiced on a cheepo TacStar pistol grip for an 870. It's so big, you can practice different patterns on the same piece. The plastic on the TacStar is so hard that it is actually kind of painful to hold.

The Rat
03-04-2011, 10:22
looks like you have a really good start there. Clean technique, with good edges.

If you want to experiment with the next step, you are already in the right ball park. Most of the interchangeable burners use .250" stock for the tips. get your self some brass or steel, depending on the type, and shape some tips to make different marks, then try experimenting with drawing or moving the tip as you go.

Getting old rail panels, or parts to practice on is a good idea before you go after guns with the different patterns, as the more aggressive ones increase the chance of burn through

As you can see on your very cleanly done glocks, the texturing doesn't hide the existing pattern and borders. The other thing, then, to try, is taking files or grinders to the stock before you texture, to change shapes. The nice thing about the texturing process is it will hide surface finish, even if it wont hide raised edges or recesses.

So you can get pretty gnarly with the file or dremel, then just burn over the scratches.

All in all, good work. keep at it.

Thanks for the suggestions. I did notice it was a pain in the ass doing the stippling on the areas that were already textured. (Between the finger grooves, the backstrap.) Will definitely have to sand those down next time.

Man I don't even need another Glock but I'd kind of like to improve my technique on this.

FireMoth
03-04-2011, 11:20
A little trick to save time, is sand smooth, but don't try to sand all the way. poly gums up the sand paper quick.

As long as you have a steady hand, i find the best way to remove material quick is with a tungsten carbide cutter in a dremel tool. Practice on other things first, so you know how it cuts, but it saves time.

CLP works great as cutting fluid on poly, too.

Next, smooth with medium and fine emery cloth. this si the fabric backed stuff. use long strips and buff it like a shoe.

Finally, get down to 400 and finer sand paper to clean up where you aren't going to texture.

Dremel sanding drums gum up really fast, so don't use them much. They can have their purposes, but the just get ruined if used aggressively

And if not glocks, getting old polymer furniture, broken gun frames, etc. is a good way to practice the more aggressive stuff first. Doesn't even have to be a gun....

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/Sale/Tomahawk1.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p75/angstnmalice/Sale/Tomahawk2.jpg

Irving
03-04-2011, 13:16
Do you guys clean your stippled grips any special way?

FireMoth
03-04-2011, 17:48
Compressed air works well, as do the little keyboard cleaner cans.

Non chlorinated break parts cleaner works if you don't have paint or anything on it...

Of course if its real nasty, strip your frame, and into the dishwasher she goes ;)

MadRabbit
03-05-2011, 00:39
My XDm .40 I did. Hopefully I remember how to upload pics... Personally I love it, texture is similar to grip tape, but slightly less aggressive. I've done both of my XD's and am a bit disappointed the wife doesn't want me to do hers as well.
http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n497/mybelanger/DSC02113.jpg
http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n497/mybelanger/DSC02112.jpg

enthusiast
03-05-2011, 00:42
^^ I really like that! I need to try that on my XDm

MadRabbit
03-05-2011, 01:20
^^ I really like that! I need to try that on my XDm

Thanks, I'm really happy with it. Improves the grip on those slippery XD/XDm's 100% if you ask me..

Irving
03-05-2011, 01:22
I also like how it looks. Those holes look awfully small though. Must have taken you 6 weeks!

CMP_5.56
04-02-2011, 18:27
Anybody done stippling on pmags before?

jetsiphon
04-03-2011, 01:28
Some of these were done by me, some by 'moth....

http://willgunforfood.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/normal_Steyr.jpg
http://willgunforfood.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/normal_Poly_Guns.jpg
http://willgunforfood.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/normal_Glocks.jpg

TriggerHappy
06-25-2011, 13:24
Firemoth aka Rob at Bowers did another fantastic job.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/jake82/56faa8c5.jpg

BPTactical
06-27-2011, 14:38
+1 for Rob @ Bowers Tactical (aka FireMoth) and his stipple work. The man is an artiste' on polymer.

[Beer]

jarhead
09-20-2011, 12:06
My XDm .40 I did. Hopefully I remember how to upload pics... Personally I love it, texture is similar to grip tape, but slightly less aggressive. I've done both of my XD's and am a bit disappointed the wife doesn't want me to do hers as well.
http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n497/mybelanger/DSC02113.jpg
http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n497/mybelanger/DSC02112.jpg
Viery nice!

Zigfried
09-23-2011, 11:34
Does anyone know if the frame will be weakened by texturing?

L3SYS
10-22-2011, 22:39
Now I know my next project



My XDm .40 I did. Hopefully I remember how to upload pics... Personally I love it, texture is similar to grip tape, but slightly less aggressive. I've done both of my XD's and am a bit disappointed the wife doesn't want me to do hers as well.
http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n497/mybelanger/DSC02113.jpg
http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n497/mybelanger/DSC02112.jpg

whiskeyjack
10-28-2011, 18:06
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc79/princessofsmiles/stipple1.jpg

soldier-of-the-apocalypse
10-30-2011, 22:19
http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr286/appliancenation/IMG_20111030_220218.jpg?t=1320033811
http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr286/appliancenation/IMG_20111030_220149.jpg?t=1320033846
http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr286/appliancenation/IMG_20111029_211033.jpg?t=1320033855

blacklabel
10-30-2011, 22:22
The web is awesome. Nice work.

soldier-of-the-apocalypse
10-31-2011, 16:52
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc79/princessofsmiles/stipple1.jpg
Your keyboard is D I R T Y

tw4
05-09-2012, 21:52
my buddy does a gret job -- I have been thinking about it

marson3erk
06-19-2012, 00:34
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marson3erk
06-19-2012, 00:51
10457

10459
hey firemoth, i bet mine is lighter.

CMP_5.56
10-24-2012, 15:10
Decided to stipple the M&P.

http://i569.photobucket.com/albums/ss133/BoundForCory/20121023_170816.jpg

http://i569.photobucket.com/albums/ss133/BoundForCory/20121023_170829.jpg

two shoes
11-06-2012, 11:54
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee5/twoshooz2003/DSC03499Small.jpg

Only thing different I would do is to have the lines continue straight verticle instead of making the bend to horizontal... VERY grippy!

kidicarus13
11-06-2012, 11:57
Good looking stipple job MadRabbit!

soldier-of-the-apocalypse
11-06-2012, 16:53
10457

10459
hey firemoth, i bet mine is lighter.


how did you do that?