Nice community here, but noticing some changes on the wind.

[IDFYF8]

I'm pretty new to this forum, but have enjoyed being a member since day one. I've met numerous good people and have made several new friends. People have given me advice, helped me work out some problems, and sold me some nice guns.

Lately, I've noticed a handful of new and not so new members spewing off at the mouth, attacking other members, and basically just being internet bullies. I'm trying to sound like a puss, but that crap gets old and it brings the quality of the forum and discussion down.

A good example is an old thread that was pulled up by a single post newby in the accessories section of the trading post area.

Was it a bit irritating? Yeah. But did he seriously deserve the trash talk that ensued?

We have enough hate in our day-to-day. I come here to meet good people and get away from the rat race outside.

Just saying...

[Marlin]

What can I say, Can't get everything..

[trlcavscout]

I have seen a few, but you just have to ignore it. I agree that crap shouldnt happen though. The "gun god" complex is a cancer. At least the mods here try to squash it instead of incourage it.

[DeusExMachina]

Here's a motto: Better than Arfcom.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Here's a motto: Better than Arfcom.

+1 [Beer]

So IDFYF8, why does that 'non-issue' deserves a whole new thread? Probably the same reason why such non issue became an issue. Paradox....[Tooth]

[sniper7]

I'm pretty new to this forum, but have enjoyed being a member since day one. I've met numerous good people and have made several new friends. People have given me advice, helped me work out some problems, and sold me some nice guns.

Lately, I've noticed a handful of new and not so new members spewing off at the mouth, attacking other members, and basically just being internet bullies. I'm trying to sound like a puss, but that crap gets old and it brings the quality of the forum and discussion down.

A good example is an old thread that was pulled up by a single post newby in the accessories section of the trading post area.

Was it a bit irritating? Yeah. But did he seriously deserve the trash talk that ensued?

We have enough hate in our day-to-day. I come here to meet good people and get away from the rat race outside.

Just saying...

you are probably referring to me on that one.

maybe because the guy is a scammer...

[sniper7]

I am impressed by your grammar though![Coffee]

[DeusExMachina]

Hey, we need to be nice to scammers. Just like criminals and illegal immigrants.

[opie011]

Hey, we need to be nice to scammers. Just like criminals and illegal immigrants.
[ROFL1]

[spyder]

I am impressed by your grammar though![Coffee]

[ROFL1]

[IDFYF8]

[ROFL2]

Scammers suck. Agreed!

No man, not singling anybody out. I guess I'm just getting older and see it more and more. This is the best gun forum I've ever been a member of by far. I think sometimes we just let our emotions take control of our mouths/fingers. I'm guilty of it too.

I'm a teacher and I see my kids talking to each other like we do sometimes, using racial slurs, singling each other out for dominance and supremecy, etc...

It saddening.

I saw the particular post I referenced after getting home from a Co Springs to Denver drive. I guess it put in me in the "mood". I moved back to Colorado about 12 years ago and have watched as it has steadily moved away from being heaven to being more and more ganglike and thuggish. I find myself driving deeper and deeper into the bush to find a fishing hole that isn't over run with 100 people tossing their trash about, kids crapping in the streams, and yelling at each other in a language I don't speak.

I come here because you guys are my kind of people. I'm betting most of you still let people in in traffic, hold doors open for your ladies, know how to say "thank you", and would go out of your way to help a buddy and consider it an honor to do so.

still just saying... ( think the Jamison might be doing some "saying too" [Pepsi])

[DeusExMachina]

The bunch of us that went to Dragon Man's on Sunday has a merry old time. I think part of the problem is when you don't see someone's face, words come easier. My opinions of a lot of people have changed after meeting them. Weird, Ginsue isn't Herr Moderator! (Completely kidding :) )

But on the same vein, that kind of comraderie can really exclude new people. I see it on a car forum I frequent. A lot of the original members know eachother, hang out with eachother regularly, and if you're not part of the "crew" you might as well GTFO.

I don't know how to fix that second problem, but being more social might go a long way on the first one.

[patrick0685]

Here's a motto: Better than Arfcom.

haha +1000

[Ridge]

I agree with you, OP.

Seems like some members are getting strung out over all these non-issues, and take it out on people who literally do not know any better, as they joined and are being verbally assaulted over their first post...

Everybody needs to stand back, take a breathe and pop a chill pill...

[sniper7]

[ROFL2]

Scammers suck. Agreed!

No man, not singling anybody out. I guess I'm just getting older and see it more and more. This is the best gun forum I've ever been a member of by far. I think sometimes we just let our emotions take control of our mouths/fingers. I'm guilty of it too.

I'm a teacher and I see my kids talking to each other like we do sometimes, using racial slurs, singling each other out for dominance and supremecy, etc...

It saddening.

I saw the particular post I referenced after getting home from a Co Springs to Denver drive. I guess it put in me in the "mood". I moved back to Colorado about 12 years ago and have watched as it has steadily moved away from being heaven to being more and more ganglike and thuggish. I find myself driving deeper and deeper into the bush to find a fishing hole that isn't over run with 100 people tossing their trash about, kids crapping in the streams, and yelling at each other in a language I don't speak.

I come here because you guys are my kind of people. I'm betting most of you still let people in in traffic, hold doors open for your ladies, know how to say "thank you", and would go out of your way to help a buddy and consider it an honor to do so.

still just saying... ( think the Jamison might be doing some "saying too" [Pepsi])


yeah we are those guys, but we are also the guys pissed about everything that is going on. here is a place to vent, to let off some steam, write a rant, piss on the illegals etc etc. If we were to say a lot of the stuff and the media gets hold of it all of a sudden we are racist, anti-immigration, right winged terrorists, gun toting rednecks, etc etc etc.

i love this place because there are rules, but it isn't like arfcom where you will be banned for not agreeing with the general populace or jumping on the bandwagon.

[Ah Pook]

I don't post anything that I wouldn't say to your face.



Now, GO GET STUFFED!! [Mad][Mad]

[Beer]

[Elhuero]

a great web forum is made by the people who are on it.

this place is great.

[zteknik]

im fairly new here and sofar i think this is one if not THE best forum ive been on!!
the guys here a great and i realy dont see any major flaming or conflicts
another board i belong to strives on drama-i mean theres hardly a thread where sombody isnt lashing out at someone else!!i mean for real its the internet!!!get a life!!![Bang]
i just cruise the info parts add a little knowledge when asked and surf the classifides-other than that i stay out of the pissy threads!!
sure we all bump heads once in a while but we man up and drive on

[spyder]

But on the same vein, that kind of comraderie can really exclude new people. I see it on a car forum I frequent. A lot of the original members know eachother, hang out with eachother regularly, and if you're not part of the "crew" you might as well GTFO.

I don't know how to fix that second problem, but being more social might go a long way on the first one.
what are you saying deus? you don't like me? [Cry] no one likes the western slope guys... you're all a bunch of meanies... [ROFL1]

[spyder]

Now, GO GET STUFFED!! [Mad][Mad]

[Beer]
you tellin us to go eat?

[SideShow Bob]

the guys here a great and i realy dont see any major flaming or conflicts


Unless you say something that puts a G-Lock in a less than perfection status...
[ROFL1]

[HBARleatherneck]

if you read my post, in that thread, I was honestly trying to be helpful.

[jerrymrc]

im fairly new here and sofar i think this is one if not THE best forum ive been on!!
the guys here a great and i realy dont see any major flaming or conflicts
another board i belong to strives on drama-i mean theres hardly a thread where sombody isnt lashing out at someone else!!i mean for real its the internet!!!get a life!!![Bang]
i just cruise the info parts add a little knowledge when asked and surf the classifides-other than that i stay out of the pissy threads!!
sure we all bump heads once in a while but we man up and drive on

Must be talknig about what is left of the Falfiles. [Help]

[Marlin]

Well, I'll put it this way, when I first became associated with this endeavor, it was a small board with less than 10 users on it. Tucked away in the recesses of the MSM communities. Think I was the 7th or 8th member to sign up. Out of the "original 10" Roger and I (Sounds like a bad Mikey Moore movie.) may be the only ones left.. The COAR "monthly shoots" consisted of me and one other guy heading up to Pawnee every 2-3 weeks. That was like 2002 or so, dang, has it really been that long....

I have thought of this as an extension of the old HS locker room.. The new kids show up and try and fit in. Some try too hard, and some integrate easily. Never really thought of "clicks" here, although, I would guess, it may be a little like life, one may tend to gravitate towards the "old friends" until the new guy is accepted.

Just remember, for the most part, there are a bunch of guys here. So, insults and jabs are going to be par for the course. Just need a grain of salt with everything. And, like the old locker room, now and then a newbie will show up all full of himself, and it will be a piranha feeding frenzy.. It's the internets man, serious bidness, seriously... [Tooth]

[StagLefty]

I'll chime in with another "it's the internet". You have no idea for the most part who your dealing with age,race,gender,politics,etc. You need to be a little thick skinned on any forum otherwise you'll take stuff way to seriously.
I've been out of work since March and my daily forum visits sometimes are the only thing that keeps me sane. Lots of great people on here and a lot of folks that step forward all the time if they can help another member.
I don't know if I want to meet too many of you-the mystery makes it more fun [Beer]

[BigBear]

Well, I'll put it this way... "clicks" ....feeding frenzy.. It's the internets man, serious bidness, seriously... [Tooth]

Uh huh... that should be "cliques".... [Swim]


...I don't know if I want to meet too many of you...

FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!! j/k [Beer]

[StagLefty]

FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!! j/k [Beer]


Oh sure as if that pumpkin pic doesn't make me wake up screaming some nights [ROFL1]

[Geology Rocks]

its a forum that is open to anyone. I like this place a lot and plan on sticking around for a while, sorry everybody. :p

must be a school teacher thing. my wife hates it when I call someone out or pick on someone on tv.

joe

[Marlin]

Uh huh... that should be "cliques".... [Swim]


I know, I just couldn't spell it....[Neene1]

[TFOGGER]

I've been here for a while now, and for the most part, it is the most civil of the forums I am on (maybe because we're all armed? [LOL]). Even when things devolve into a flame war, the temperature of the flames is lower. Hardly ever do you see someone indicted as Hitler or Stalin. Except theGinsue... [LOL]

Even the n00bs are generally treated well, as long as they don't try to be gungho know-it-all types.

As the days get shorter, so do the tempers, and I am as guilty as any of just being a total d!ck when the weather turns to sh!t and I'm cooped up inside all day. Or most other days, for that matter.....[ROFL1]

[alxone]

I'm pretty new to this forum, but have enjoyed being a member since day one. I've met numerous good people and have made several new friends. People have given me advice, helped me work out some problems, and sold me some nice guns.

Lately, I've noticed a handful of new and not so new members spewing off at the mouth, attacking other members, and basically just being internet bullies. I'm trying to sound like a puss, but that crap gets old and it brings the quality of the forum and discussion down.

A good example is an old thread that was pulled up by a single post newby in the accessories section of the trading post area.

Was it a bit irritating? Yeah. But did he seriously deserve the trash talk that ensued?

We have enough hate in our day-to-day. I come here to meet good people and get away from the rat race outside.

Just saying...



I wouldn't let it bother you as the internet bully types are only bullies online . Not one person who was tried to push me around or be rude towards me on line , has ever had the balls to try that crap in person . Hell i have found people in the internet shooting world run there mouth more than most but at the same time , with out that gun they don't have what it takes to stand up a take a punch to the face . Why they are such big men with there gun or on line ??? Who knows ?? I do know where i come from being a bully will get you hurt and fast !!! There is always a bigger dog in the junkyard ( know what i mean).All i know is that If you just do your best to be respectful then you should have no problems .
As far as ar-15 goes well ... as a new person here all I can say is its a great place for buying / trading / selling and yes in the chat topics there are some clickish folks but all in all this is pretty dam good site.

[Elhuero]

love that avatar alxone

[alxone]

love that avatar alxone
thanks

[BigBear]

I wouldn't let it bother you as the internet bully types are only bullies online .... clickish.... dam...


Clickish - not a word
Cliquish - associating exclusively with the members of one's own clique/clan.

Dam - a water barrier
Damn - a curse word to bring condemation upon



And no one has told me to cut it out yet... Guess I'm not being bullish enough... haha. Ok, I'll stop.

[Swim]


I know, I know. I'm not perfect either.

[alxone]

Clickish - not a word
Cliquish - associating exclusively with the members of one's own clique/clan.

Dam - a water barrier
Damn - a curse word to bring condemation upon



And no one has told me to cut it out yet... Guess I'm not being bullish enough... haha. Ok, I'll stop.

[Swim]


I know, I know. I'm not perfect either.

im from b-more , we dont do the english so good [Tooth]

[Troublco]

I second what Marlin said. There's a great group of folks here. Mostly guys. You're gonna get some (OK, maybe more than some) locker room humor. We tend to give each other a hard time occasionally, but almost all the time it's in fun. I've really enjoyed meeting the members here that I have in person, and I enjoy my visits to the forum. I believe the old saying about birds of a feather, and this forum is proof of that. Sure, once in a while you get a screwball but that's par for the course. Oh, and then there's Ginsue....[ROFL1]

[BigBear]

... Sure, once in a while you get a screwball but that's par for the course. Oh, and then there's Ginsue....[ROFL1]


So what you're saying is that Ginsue is even beyond the screwball category huh? Just wanted to clarify! I think we need a poll... HAHAH.


[Beer]

[alxone]

I think we need a poll...




yeah a stripper poll haha
just kidding i knoe its pole
and i no its know
also eye should be I

[ROFL1]

[cstone]

im from b-more , we dont do the english so good [Tooth]

Yes, we Bawlmer guys know all about english as a second language.

The good ole days of Mayor Clarence "Du" Burns and the City that Breads!

The only item that just sends me over the top is the lack of distinction on a "clip" vs a magazine. I don't comment when they are used incorrectly, but it does make me wonder about the person using the terms.

[alxone]

Yes, we Bawlmer guys know all about english as a second language.

The good ole days of Mayor Clarence "Du" Burns and the City that Breads!

The only item that just sends me over the top is the lack of distinction on a "clip" vs a magazine. I don't comment when they are used incorrectly, but it does make me wonder about the person using the terms.

english as a second language , you must be from the county ,lol
language in order by way of b-more schools
1 bal-da-moron ( must be a local to understand ) taught in the home and bad city schools
2 bad bal-da-moron american ( what you hear on the Wire ) taught in city schools
3 good bal-da-moron american ( what you hear on jhon waters films ) taught in good city schools and bad county schools
4 american taught in county schools
5 english taught in good county schools and privet schools

[Stooge]

[cstone]

Morrell Park and Glen Burnie.

Mt St Joe.

The only place where having crabs isn't a medical condition [Flower]

[funkfool]

The good ole days of Mayor Clarence "Du" Burns and the City that Breads!


Loved the album Burned Breads!
[Coffee]
(ok - that was a re-take on a good one somewhere else...)

[BigBear]

Colloqiaulism used to be a means of verbal conveyance between people of whom origins were shared. Now it's a universal theme such as the "texting language".

I even use the texting language myself, but I still try to stress that knowing how to use our language is a needed skill. Communicating can be very stressful if someone doesn't speak the same "language". That being said, most folks don't want to do business with some who seems illiterate.

Most common mistakes as we are aware:

Know and No
There, They're, and Their
Sense, Cents, and Scents
Pole, poll, pool
Clip versus Magazine
Double negatives in the positive
Droppin' "g's" and usin' "'s"
Lack of capitalization and/or punctuation

...et al, ad nasuem.

However, I don't mind being funny sometimes and showing my "ghetto-ness" and using slang, colloquialism, curse words, etc. But a newbie showing up and typing like a pre-pubesent gangsta' to where things just really don't make sense grates on me sometimes.... I know not why.

But I get over it. Sometimes I'll say something... sometimes I'll just say, "Yo homey, u's da fool!"

I've always wanted to get a "double g" (ghetto gangsta) and a business man to a negotiating table... I think it'd be a riot.

And those guys that always uses elipsis marks too!....

... ... ... ... ... [Swim]


Wait, what was this thread about...

[funkfool]

Colloqiaulism ...
colloquialism
Got 'cha Bear!
(although - you did go 1 for 2...)
[Beer][Coffee][Flower]

[BigBear]

BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Winner... /thread!!

[alxone]

Morrell Park and Glen Burnie.

Mt St Joe.

The only place where having crabs isn't a medical condition [Flower]

i guess it is a second language for you , lol

north and howard
mervo
so i guess its my 5th language [Tooth]

also i hear ya the clip mag thing , when ever people say clips i just wonder where they plan to put the stripper clip in there semiautomatic pistol , ha!

[TFOGGER]

Colloqiaulism used to be a means of verbal conveyance between people of whom origins were shared. Now it's a universal theme such as the "texting language".

I even use the texting language myself, but I still try to stress that knowing how to use our language is a needed skill. Communicating can be very stressful if someone doesn't speak the same "language". That being said, most folks don't want to do business with some who seems illiterate.

Most common mistakes as we are aware:

Know and No
There, They're, and Their
Sense, Cents, and Scents
Pole, poll, pool
Clip versus Magazine
Double negatives in the positive
Droppin' "g's" and usin' "'s"
Lack of capitalization and/or punctuation

...et al, ad nasuem.

However, I don't mind being funny sometimes and showing my "ghetto-ness" and using slang, colloquialism, curse words, etc. But a newbie showing up and typing like a pre-pubesent gangsta' to where things just really don't make sense grates on me sometimes.... I know not why.

But I get over it. Sometimes I'll say something... sometimes I'll just say, "Yo homey, u's da fool!"

I've always wanted to get a "double g" (ghetto gangsta) and a business man to a negotiating table... I think it'd be a riot.

And those guys that always uses elipsis marks too!....

... ... ... ... ... [Swim]


Wait, what was this thread about...run-on sentences with no punctuation or capitalization really chap my ass as a rule if it makes my head hurt it's gonna make my reply less kind

Remember, there's a difference between helping your Uncle Jack off his horse, and helping your uncle jack off his horse...

elipsis just for you, BigBear [LOL]

[Lex_Luthor]

Yeah "your" and "you're" are becoming used in the wrong context too. That's another one that bugs me.

[spyder]

Clickish - not a word
Cliquish - associating exclusively with the members of one's own clique/clan.

Dam - a water barrier
Damn - a curse word to bring condemation upon



And no one has told me to cut it out yet... Guess I'm not being bullish enough... haha. Ok, I'll stop.

[Swim]


I know, I know. I'm not perfect either.
[ROFL1]

[spyder]

Colloqiaulism used to be a means of verbal conveyance between people of whom origins were shared. Now it's a universal theme such as the "texting language".

I even use the texting language myself, but I still try to stress that knowing how to use our language is a needed skill. Communicating can be very stressful if someone doesn't speak the same "language". That being said, most folks don't want to do business with some who seems illiterate.

Most common mistakes as we are aware:

Know and No
There, They're, and Their
Sense, Cents, and Scents
Pole, poll, pool
Clip versus Magazine
Double negatives in the positive
Droppin' "g's" and usin' "'s"
Lack of capitalization and/or punctuation

...et al, ad nasuem.

However, I don't mind being funny sometimes and showing my "ghetto-ness" and using slang, colloquialism, curse words, etc. But a newbie showing up and typing like a pre-pubesent gangsta' to where things just really don't make sense grates on me sometimes.... I know not why.

But I get over it. Sometimes I'll say something... sometimes I'll just say, "Yo homey, u's da fool!"

I've always wanted to get a "double g" (ghetto gangsta) and a business man to a negotiating table... I think it'd be a riot.

And those guys that always uses elipsis marks too!....

... ... ... ... ... [Swim]


Wait, what was this thread about...
i think it is funny how these threads can go from damn near anything to something about the spelling or grammar used in the thread. i have given up on the shift key, so, for those of you who like raz on others, you are going to like my posts from here on. i will however use their, there, and they're correctly, oh and you're and your. that is all about grammar, the shift key has nothing to do with that. [Coffee]

[Byte Stryke]

Sense, Cents, and Scents



you forgot since

I've seen this one abused here rather regularly

"He doesn't have any since."

[Eek3]


I Confess to a little laziness on occasion, but sheesh.

[BigBear]

I did forget that one. Thanks Byte...


Someone brought up the shift-key usage as well...

You HAVE to use it.

if you don't, it seems like you're a tiny, meek voice in the wilderness just not wanting to use the shift key to capitalize proper nouns and other such verbage functions....


BUT IF YOU USE IT ALL THE TIME THEN IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE CONSTANTLY YELLING!!!!

It is better to find a happy medium where you can talk to George, or Jorge, and not iritate others as you talk about helping Uncle Jack off his horse Blue Bonnet.

[TFOGGER]

While we're kvetching about misused words, my pet peeve:

Then: following, after

Than: in comparison

I have documented proof of my head esplodin' over that one...

[SA Friday]

This thread needs a change of venue. More guns, less English.
[M2]

[BigBear]

This thread needs a change of venue. More guns, less English.
[M2]

Done.

[UZI][AR15]

Here's a question I'm interested in...

If money was no object, and there were no weapons laws... what is the ONE (1) firearm you would have and why?

[Marlin]

Holy thread derailment, Batman.





[Shock]

[TFOGGER]

http://www.sydlexia.com/blogstuff/runaway_train_derailed_thread_soul_asylum.jpg

[patrick0685]

i dont know why but i have always wanted an UMP 9 with a can

[jonnyd49]

As a newbie, there are a few things I have learned about this board just from this thread.

1. I will continually attempt to use correct grammar and spelling, lest I be chastised for it. (And that doesn't bother me in the least. I think proper writing is headed down the tubes very quickly)

2. I'm reminded of a comic from xkcd.com:
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png

[jonnyd49]

Done.

[UZI][AR15]

Here's a question I'm interested in...

If money was no object, and there were no weapons laws... what is the ONE (1) firearm you would have and why?

M249. Good firepower, readily available ammunition, and a comfortable man-portable platform.

A close second would be a Mark19. That thing is just fun and screams massive destruction.

-Jon

[patrick0685]

hahaha thats a great comic

[DeusExMachina]

i dont know why but i have always wanted an UMP 9 with a can

Ooh yeah. Or a 45. Was seriously tempted to buy that USC for sale.

[patrick0685]

ya anyone need a kidney i might have one for sale

[Ah Pook]

http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/19776973/504863 This spellin' board has a shootin' problem.

[funkfool]

ya anyone need a kidney i might have one for sale
That's funny, because I just happen to be missing one...
[LOL]

[StagLefty]

ya anyone need a kidney i might have one for sale


That's funny, because I just happen to be missing one...
[LOL]

Well there ya go-what a community [Beer]

[ChadAmberg]

I've been here for a while now, and for the most part, it is the most civil of the forums I am on (maybe because we're all armed? [LOL]).

Not just armed but living close enough that being polite is a little more urgent than on the global gun forums.

[SA Friday]

Not just armed but living close enough that being polite is a little more urgent than on the global gun forums.
And more than a few of us actually have met face to face or been friends/acquaintances for longer than we have been on the site.

Hell, I actually know Hoser's real name. Not many can say that, incuding his coworkers. I tried to call him at work once.[LOL]

[SideShow Bob]

if you read my post, in that thread, I was honestly trying to be helpful.

( In my best Robert Diniro imitation. )
Are you talking to me ? I don't see anybody else here, so you must be talking to me !

[Byte Stryke]

( In my best Robert Diniro imitation. )
Are you talking to me ? I don't see anybody else here, so you must be talking to me !


Damnit, who hit the trunk latch?
[ROFL1]

[SideShow Bob]

Damnit, who hit the trunk latch?
[ROFL1]

Guess I need to steal Mazin's avatar and talk admin into letting me change my screen name. [Coffee]

[BPTactical]

Guess I need to steal Mazin's avatar and talk admin into letting me change my screen name. [Coffee]

[ROFL1][ROFL1][ROFL3][ROFL2][Coffee]

[SideShow Bob]

[ROFL1][ROFL1][ROFL3][ROFL2][Coffee]

Did you wet yourself over that one ?

[Byte Stryke]

[ROFL1][ROFL1][ROFL3][ROFL2][Coffee]Did you wet yourself over that one ?


wait for it...













wait for it...













Depends
[ROFL1][ROFL2][ROFL3][LOL]

[theGinsue]

I agree with you, OP.

Seems like some members are getting strung out over all these non-issues, and take it out on people who literally do not know any better, as they joined and are being verbally assaulted over their first post...

Everybody needs to stand back, take a breathe and pop a chill pill...

Coming into this thread late and have only read the first page of 4 pages of posts so far (@ 20 posts/page).

I strongly agree with the OP and Ridge.

There is the one thread in particular where I wasn't impressed by the reactions of some of our members here; even members I have a great deal of respect for. While the OP in that thread could have easily been a "scammer"/spammer, he could just as easily have been someone VERY new to participating in/viewing online forums (as his second post stated). Because of this, I (personally) chose to err on the side of caution and treat that OP with dignity and respect - the same way *I* was treated when I joined this site.

One of the greatest things I love about this site is something that it took me MONTHS to figure out, and that is that the members of this site don't (usually) go bashing folks for stupid questions or commetns --- at least not until the stupid poster is an established member here and the bashing is all good natured ribbing.

Sure, look at my post count and the length of time I've been a member and you'd be hard pressed to realize that I waited MONTHS before posting because I was afraid (yeah, me - afraid) of showing my ignorance about AR's and the proper etiquette used in online forums. I've been active on several other forums, but the rules of etiquette on each site are different.

I've been bashed on ARFCOM for asking a legitimate question to reduce my ignorance. I've been belittled and made to feel absolutely unwelcome at many sites, but this site is supposed to be different. We have a "New Member Sign In" forum where we welcome new members with open arms, but if someone fails to post there first and they post something in another forum that seems a bit "off" to some of us we attack that person instead of offering gentle corrective advice? That's not the site I thought this place was.

I'm seeing the use of more and more profane language here too. Really? Why is that necessary? This used to be something of a family friendly site. Some of the stuff I'm seeing here would make me want to keep my wife from every viewing these pages out of sheer embarassment. Would all of you be proud to let your grandmother read what you've posted? Probably not.

Don't get me wrong, I can cuss with the best of 'em. I really tried to watch my mouth on Sunday @ the Dragonmans shoot like I watch it (mostly) here out of respect for all of you. After 20 years active duty and playing USAF cop part of that time, working with Marines, etc. I've picked up some really foul speech. I know that I'll even get a bit riske' in my posts. The real me could spew vulgarities out of my mouth enough to walk into a bar and have sailors come running out minutes later. But there is a time and a place for everything. I don't think it belongs here. Just sayin'.

So, whatdoya say? Can we try to keep from running off new and existing members and get this site back to the friendly and decent site it has always been?

Just my $0.02. Think about it a bit.

[IDFYF8]

I can't believe I just sat here and read through every post.


LMFBO! (that's laughing my farting butt off )


The comic and "depends" were classic.


Now where'd I put that Jamison? (cheap therapy)

[Mazin]

Guess I need to steal Mazin's avatar and talk admin into letting me change my screen name. [Coffee]
Its all yours, just treat bob (the monkey) with some respect.


When it comes to the spelling and grammer thing remember I'm a government employee.....Can't act too educated I might get fired! ;)

[SideShow Bob]

Back to the topic.
As a newbie I was guilty of dragging up an old for sale ad and asking if it was still for sale. I got razed, but in my defense, the ad was never posted as sold withdrawn or otherwise identified as no longer available.
But in the mentioned post from a newbie the offender that jumped down his throat and recommended a 50 post minimum before being allowed into the for sale threads only had 75 posts himself.
So maybe we should make a minimum of 100+ posts. How do you feel about that ?

[Irving]

And more than a few of us actually have met face to face or been friends/acquaintances for longer than we have been on the site.

Hell, I actually know Hoser's real name. Not many can say that, incuding his coworkers. I tried to call him at work once.[LOL]

I know Hoser's real name (I think), but haven't yet had the pleasure of meeting him. He doesn't have my cell phone number though. Not that I know of anyway.

[jerrymrc]

So, whatdoya say? Can we try to keep from running off new and existing members and get this site back to the friendly and decent site it has always been?

Just my $0.02. Think about it a bit.

I agree with ya my friend.

As a side note I did notice that Irving has been let back into his parents basement again to play on the puter. [Rant1][Tooth][ROFL1]

[BPTactical]

Back to the topic.
As a newbie I was guilty of dragging up an old for sale ad and asking if it was still for sale. I got razed, but in my defense, the ad was never posted as sold withdrawn or otherwise identified as no longer available.
But in the mentioned post from a newbie the offender that jumped down his throat and recommended a 50 post minimum before being allowed into the for sale threads only had 75 posts himself.
So maybe we should make a minimum of 100+ posts. How do you feel about that ?

Off Topic-
I for one nominate "SideShowBob" be declared "Retired" and "TrunkMonkey" used instead.

On topic-
I know I dont have good table manners. I have long been known for candor and lack of tact. I have a harsh and sarcastic sense of humor. I have worked in too many industries too long where colorful adjectives and such are the same as breathing. I have always been one of the "If you dont like it, GTFO" folks.
But here online it is easy to forget that those we communicate with don't live in the same off-line world as we do, come from the same backgrounds or have the same experiences we do.
If I may be a bit less than PC and if it offends you I offer two things:
1- Sorry if it offends you.
2- Get over it, this is a firearms forum and not "Mom's Like Me" or such. Most firearms afficianados are not the warmest and fuzziest people, rather they are no BS and to the point.
I think we can all agree if a new member comes in, pays attention and ask's honest questions they will get honest answers and treated well.
But if somebody comes in here peeing on post's, being a knucklehead in the Trading Post etc you reap what you sow.......

My current supervisor had a good way of putting it after noticing a bit too much candor in the entire crew. He reminded us of when you are training a horse that sometimes spurs are used as a gentle "reminder" for the horse to behave as he wanted. He held up a spur. He said he didnt want to resort to using Texas rowells with us.

Well put and when somebody is a bit too candid he just says: Spurs....
A good reminder.

I have a spur sitting on my speaker at work..................

[SideShow Bob]

Dang it BP I was waiting for your next off color post and tell you " Spurs BP Spurs ".

[theGinsue]

Hardly ever do you see someone indicted as Hitler or Stalin. Except theGinsue... [LOL]

I demand to see the evidence against me.

Oh, and I insist to my right to counsel. I was gonna choose TroublCo, but....

[BPTactical]

I demand to see the evidence against me.

Oh, and I insist to my right to counsel.

The "Nurmemburg Defense" won't work here Ginsue......

[theGinsue]

Sure, once in a while you get a screwball but that's par for the course. Oh, and then there's Ginsue....[ROFL1]

Dang. I want new cousel.

[theGinsue]

So what you're saying is that Ginsue is even beyond the screwball category huh? Just wanted to clarify! I think we need a poll... HAHAH.


[Beer]

Zing!

What the...?

et tu Bearte'

All ya'll? Okay. Bring it on cowboys.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_qb3MXTRYblY/SPdP2z-BItI/AAAAAAAAAfI/5KLegKn9BvE/s400/Karate+Kid+Pose.jpg

If do right, no can defend!

[funkfool]

Just following orders, sir...

[theGinsue]

And those guys that always uses elipsis marks too!....

Guilty as charged.

[theGinsue]

This thread needs a change of venue. More guns, less English.
[M2]
I like the way you think!

[theGinsue]

wait for it...


wait for it...



Depends
[ROFL1][ROFL2][ROFL3][LOL]

Dang - that was MINE. I've been robbed. But now I KNOW it was a good one since it's been re-used.

[theGinsue]

As a side note I did notice that Irving has been let back into his parents basement again to play on the puter. [Rant1][Tooth][ROFL1]

Son of a.... (that was for you Bear)....

Can't we get a decent parental content blocker put on that computer?

[Byte Stryke]

Dang - that was MINE. I've been robbed. But now I KNOW it was a good one since it's been re-used.


I have rejected your reality and substituted my own.

[Troublco]

One particular thing I do agree with Ginsue on - language. I'm no stranger to some of the most creative uses of English I know of, but it doesn't mean I necessarily want to be seeing it constantly on here. I don't buy the "If you don't like it, GTFO" routine, or the "Gun folks talk like that" either. Military folks have always been famous for it, but that's getting calmed down these days too. I am guilty of occasionally using words of that sort to emphasize when I'm really hot about something, but I do try to limit it. I can't always keep my boy from seeing what I'm reading on here, and just because someone doesn't want to bother not using really nasty language to me isn't acceptable. Seriously, is there any particular reason, other than you want to, for constant use of profanity? Nobody has to agree, this is just my opinion, and you know about those....[ROFL1]

[BPTactical]

One particular thing I do agree with Ginsue on - language. I'm no stranger to some of the most creative uses of English I know of, but it doesn't mean I necessarily want to be seeing it constantly on here. I don't buy the "If you don't like it, GTFO" routine, or the "Gun folks talk like that" either. Military folks have always been famous for it, but that's getting calmed down these days too. I am guilty of occasionally using words of that sort to emphasize when I'm really hot about something, but I do try to limit it. I can't always keep my boy from seeing what I'm reading on here, and just because someone doesn't want to bother not using really nasty language to me isn't acceptable. Seriously, is there any particular reason, other than you want to, for constant use of profanity? Nobody has to agree, this is just my opinion, and you know about those....[ROFL1]

My prior post was perhaps hard to follow because I had 10000 different things going on while I was trying to type it and it came out convoluted.

I am probably one of the worst as far as being "Politically Correct" and I am generally one of the "you don't like it GTFO" people. I tend to say what I feel and don't mince too many words. But if I do get a bit randy 99% it is in good humor and tongue in cheek.
But I also understand that not all feel this way and don't share the same views or come from the same backgrounds or have the same sense of humor as I. I do try to keep that in mind hence the "spurs" reference.
I try to stay as PC as I can but do slip a bit. But in the same breath I feel that some are thin skinned. One comes on to a firearms forum and get offended by a bit of blue humor.
I don't want to see this forum turn into ARFCOM as the Ginsue mentioned, it is a total turn off any more and I only go over there to find some technical info for the most part.
But as well it doesn't need to turn into"Namby Pamby" land either.

I guess "balance" is a good thing


[Beer]

[trlcavscout]

WOW the last free web site is going PC [Shake] WT%&#@

[Troublco]

I wasn't specifically referencing you, BP, although looking at it I can see why you could think so. I don't think you're bad about this sort of thing. For that matter, most here aren't. I'm not particularly thin skinned; 24 years in the military took care of that! I just thought those were good examples you had used.
And Tricavscout, if you read my post I'm not saying that I think everyone should keep this a 100% profanity free site, either. I'm saying, is there any reason anyone has to cuss constantly in their posts? F*** this and what the F*** is up with that S***, that stupid a**hat - type posts may be what someone would say ordinarily, but I don't really like hearing that all the time; real life or otherwise. Some people talk that way constantly, it doesn't make it right. Now if I was saying that nobody should ever post vulgar words, yeah, I think that would be way out in left field, and unreasonable. I don't think that saying I don't really like to see that stuff used as punctuation, is unreasonable. And as I said, nobody has to agree. Just my opinion. If you don't like it, that's your right.

[BigBear]

Seriously, is there any particular reason, other than you want to, for constant use of profanity?


Yes! Our culture glorifies the personality of "unique badness". For example, just look at the entertainment industry. It is against known moral standing to constantly curse, so people push the envelope thinking they are being independant of the norm and bringing their own personality to bear. However, when everyone does it... it is no longer unique or personal....


Anyways, did you know back in the Dark ages and before the F word was an acronym? F.U.C.K was a command sent by the King for his troops to replenish their losses. Fornication Under Charge of the King. Basically, it would give his troops free reign to fornicate with whomever so that they could rebuild troop strength for future battles. Interesting huh? Gives a whole new meaning to "F*** You" doesn't it?

[Swim]

[spyder]

Anyways, did you know back in the Dark ages and before the F word was an acronym? F.U.C.K was a command sent by the King for his troops to replenish their losses. Fornication Under Charge of the King. Basically, it would give his troops free reign to fornicate with whomever so that they could rebuild troop strength for future battles. Interesting huh? Gives a whole new meaning to "F*** You" doesn't it?

[Swim]
really? huh, interesting. that is like c.u.n.t. can't understand normal thinking.

[StagLefty]

really? huh, interesting. that is like c.u.n.t. can't understand normal thinking.

nope-"California University of National Technology " Love the cheerleaders uniforms [ROFL1]

[spyder]

nope-"California University of National Technology " Love the cheerleaders uniforms [ROFL1]
that would be priceless

[DeusExMachina]

I went to Rochester Institute of Technology but it was really in South Henrietta. Our colors were brown and orange.

[spyder]

I went to Rochester Institute of Technology but it was really in South Henrietta. Our colors were brown and orange.
huh, that is like a disgusting shit where you don't remember why or when you ate carrots...

[Troublco]

nope-"California University of National Technology " Love the cheerleaders uniforms [ROFL1]

Hmmmm....I'm just imagining the "ball games" they'd have...[ROFL1]

[Lex_Luthor]

I personally find myself cussing and try hard to curb it. In situations where cuss words aren't even needed, I take a step back and think of how stupid I sound. "I couldn't come up with a better word than that? Come on." I tell myself stuff like that. Honestly I think everyone would benefit from cussing less, being more positive and not being so quick to find faults in others. I'm reminded of a quote:


When you lose patience with a person, it is not his mistake for failing to live up to your expectation, but rather your need for further insight into yourself.

[jerrymrc]

I don't want to see this forum turn into ARFCOM as the Ginsue mentioned, it is a total turn off any more and I only go over there to find some technical info for the most part.
But as well it doesn't need to turn into"Namby Pamby" land either.

I do not think the staff would let that happen. I have only seen a few cases where the language was a little much but I think it is all in the context as well.

I am a member of ARFCOM but have never posted. I have to admit it seems very strange over there.

[steveopia]

I personally find myself cussing and try hard to curb it. In situations where cuss words aren't even needed, I take a step back and think of how stupid I sound. "I couldn't come up with a better word than that? Come on." I tell myself stuff like that. Honestly I think everyone would benefit from cussing less, being more positive and not being so quick to find faults in others. I'm reminded of a quote:


At my first "real job" an old tool grinder named Hobart once told me that the only thing that cursing did was show a lack of intelligence. I said FU. [Tooth]

I reread everything I type as an attempt to not come off wrong. Apparently I'm a bit illiterate . . .

[Ah Pook]

11 pages? Is this the new "Boost You Post Count" thread? [Eek3]




:D

[Byte Stryke]

11 pages? Is this the new "Boost You Post Count" thread? [Eek3]




:D

you need to fix the settings on your etch-a-sketch
we are on page three

but only if your PC Doesn't have a hand-crank or a nickle slot [LOL]

[Ah Pook]

There must be a super secret button on the ol Etch-a-Scketch that increases posts per page. I ain't seeing it.

I have a quarter slot on the side of the box. It is a Mac after all. [Coffee]

[Marlin]

User CP

Edit options

Thread options.

Change the number of pages there..

[Irving]

I have mine set to 3 posts per page.

[Ah Pook]

I never knew that. Thanks Marlin. [Beer]


Gee, 3 pages already? Is this the new "Boost You Post Count" thread? [Eek3]



:D

[Marlin]

What I'm here for. I think. [Tooth]

[Byte Stryke]

[Eek3]


Das ist hier MIENE SCHMILEY!

Fingern weg von Meine Schmiley du verrucht Dreck sow!


Miene Schmiley for you ist VERBOTEN!

[Rant1]



[Kick2]

[Troublco]

Ich spreche nicht Deutsch! Was zum Teufel redest du? Sprechen Sie Englisch, verdammt!

[StagLefty]

Help Marlin-posts are coming up in German [Rant1]

[ghettodub]

ich bin ein fliegende kuh!

[Troublco]

Ich würde mich eher eine steinkrug als eine fliegende Kuh ...

[Marlin]

Help Marlin-posts are coming up in German [Rant1]


Sorry, All I learned was where the train was and how to get my face slapped... [LOL]

[Troublco]

Yeah, but the only really important ones are Ich möchte ein Bier, bitte and Wo bleibt der Männer Zimmer?

[ghettodub]

Ich würde mich eher eine steinkrug als eine fliegende Kuh ...

laut lachen [ROFL1]

[Troublco]

I've noticed that stuff never translates back to the same thing it was....[LOL]

WTF, über?

[funkfool]

Das ist hier MIENE SCHMILEY!

Fingern weg von Meine Schmiley du verrucht Dreck sow!


Miene Schmiley for you ist VERBOTEN!


Via Babelfish:


That is here EXPRESSION SCHMILEY! Fingers away of my Schmiley you dirt verrucht sow! Expression Schmiley for you is PROHIBITION!

다만 우리는 무엇을 에 대해서 여기에서 이야기하고 있는가? 에?

[Ah Pook]

Das ist hier MIENE SCHMILEY!

Fingern weg von Meine Schmiley du verrucht Dreck sow!


Miene Schmiley for you ist VERBOTEN!

[Rant1]



[Kick2]
[Eek3][Eek3][Eek3][Eek3][Eek3][Eek3][Eek3][Eek3][Eek3][Eek3][Eek3][Eek3]
Пойдите получите вашу собственную придурковатую сторону.

http://www.worldofzach.com/rabbit_pancake.jpg

[Ah Pook]

Via Babelfish:

다만 우리는 무엇을 에 대해서 여기에서 이야기하고 있는가? 에?
私は無知である。

[funkfool]

ここの総糸の脱線についての話!

私はこの場所を愛する!

http://www.bloggerdad.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/smiling-dog-flickr-user-simon_davison.jpg

[Ah Pook]

微笑犬映像を使用しなかった。 それはここから下り坂にすべてである。

[Peep][Train][Peep]

[Elhuero]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/elhuero/omnivorously-waste.jpg